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- greenfyre, on 08/30/2008, -0/+2You want to pretend that historic climate change is something newly discovered and that this somehow puts anthropogenic climate change into question. Hello!!!
Of course there has been climatic variation throughout the Earth's history. You know, I know, the climate scientists know because they are the ones who discovered it!
It's very simple basic stuff. It's taught in bloody grade 4 for crying out loud. It's in every 'How and Why Wonder Book' that a 6 year old reads, so stop pretending it's some freaking great revelation.
The scientists know about it, it is part of the science, It's accounted for in the models. They know far more about it than you or I and they are the ones saying that this is NOT part of the same patterns
There has always been variation, and all climate events have causes. Orbital variations, sun cycles, volcanoes ... there is always causes.
No one is saying those things have stopped happening. Of course they are happening. How in God's name would anthropogenic climate change stop all other climatic factors? Those variations are still happening, and anthropogenic climate change is happening as well. It is _on top of_ not instead of. No one ever claimed different, so you saying this as if they had is absurd.
How much of the recent CO2 increase is due to human activities? http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005 ...
The Human Hand in Climate Change http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007 ...
Myth 'Natural emissions dwarf human emissions'http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/12/17/233610 ...
Attribution of 20th Century climate change to CO2 http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006 ...
Humans cause climate change, US body accepts http://environment.newscientist.com/article/mg1992 ... - greenfyre, on 08/30/2008, -1/+1Do you happen to have any actual, credible evidence to support your allegation?
- greenfyre, on 08/28/2008, -2/+2Well, since the "Cult" has overwhelming scientific evidence you really have to be dumber than a lobotomized gopher not to be part of it:
"How we know we're not wrong about climate change" http://www.ametsoc.org/atmospolicy/Presentations/O ...
http://climate.jpl.nasa.gov/evidence/
http://royalsociety.org/landing.asp?id=1278
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007 ...
http://climate.jpl.nasa.gov/
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm
http://www.ghgonline.org/pubarchive.htm - tkinder, on 08/29/2008, -2/+1You caught me - I'm a lobotomized gopher with a computer and account on Digg. You really are smart.
- freemenow, on 08/28/2008, -2/+1Actually, Bob Barr believes that the average temperature of the earth has increased by 0.8 degrees over the last century, but is not convinced, as Gore and his Luddites are, that it's a punishment imposed on mankind for having developed a better than subsistance standard of living.
He's well aware, as am I, that there was a much larger temperature change when the last ice age ended.
I would NOT classify him as a member of the Church of Environmentology.
