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- ForumDriv, on 03/20/2009, -26/+67The Annenberg Public Policy Center (UPenn)'s FactCheck.org is a real gift, especially when a lot of the Internet and TV are fact free zones. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
- amprather, on 03/20/2009, -25/+54Boy, the Truth is a pesky little thing....ain't it?
- cubicledrone, on 03/21/2009, -4/+30Republican vs. Democrat only helps Republicans and Democrats. Not America.
- freedomjoe, on 03/20/2009, -24/+49fta
We take no position on whether Dodd's bonus ban was a good idea or a bad idea, and we have no way of saying whether or not it might have caused the legal and practical problems that White House and Treasury officials feared. But it's a matter of record that Dodd favored a tougher ban than the one that became law, and was pressured by others to back down. Anyone looking for a scapegoat needs to search elsewhere. - mikes1, on 03/21/2009, -7/+30Dodd is a big boy, and knows how things work. It matters not who talked him into it, the FACT remains, he was talked into it and HE did it (and then repeatedly denied it until very recently).
It's also a FACT that it is the legislature, of which Dodd is a member, which writes the laws, not the executive. That's grade school government class. - DEIx15x8, on 03/21/2009, -10/+31So it was the White House's fault then. Now who runs that place? Really, I don't know because it sure doesn't seem to be Obama.
- mgraham80, on 03/21/2009, -9/+30FALSE! Obama received campaign money from AIG employees! Corporations are not allowed to donate to political campaigns!
- Chahrlie5, on 03/21/2009, -9/+28Dodd stated himself that he helped this get through.
You can "fact check" all you want, he's still partly responsible, as are the rest of the politicians in the senate/house/whitehouse - PuterPrsn, on 03/21/2009, -3/+22Sorry to refute your source, but Senator Dodd has already admitted that he did, in fact, put that loophole in the bill and now regrets it. You must have missed that article in the news earlier in the week.
- dtr300, on 03/20/2009, -13/+30I said this a few days ago and I'll say it again. Those bonuses were part of contracts, and annulling them as part of the bailout would just cause more legal problems than the money that would be saved. It sounds like that's the advice that Geithner got from his legal counsel and gave to Dodd. I would suggest that the real problem is in the system we have where companies like AIG (and not just them) allow themselves be forced into paying these outrageous salaries and bonuses. We have a cancerous case of greed in this country, and I don't know what you do about that.
- TheGambit, on 03/20/2009, -7/+24"The public record shows Dodd authored an amendment that would have prevented "any bonus" being paid to top executives of firms getting bailout money.
___It was the White House and the Treasury Department that insisted Dodd's amendment be watered down___ to apply only to bonuses paid under agreements signed in the past five weeks. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has taken public responsibility for that." - nihil, on 03/21/2009, -14/+30So this is the new version of "I voted against it before I voted for it"?
Dodd proposed a tougher amendment, then rolled over like a lap dog when Obama's administration pulled hard on his leash. Then he lied about his roll in it and then he tried to blame it all on the administration.
So was it Dodd, or Obama or don't the liberals want us to know? - mgraham80, on 03/21/2009, -3/+18Blame Canada.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -1/+15Interesting. . .But I'm pretty sure I saw Dodd on CNN taking responsibility for including that language in the legislation.
- kaelyiesta, on 03/20/2009, -11/+25No, truth is awesome: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/19/aig.bonuses ...
Excerpt: " "When I left the Senate, it was not in there. So when I wrote the language, there was no such language like that," he said then.
But, saying his previous comments had been misconstrued, Dodd said Wednesday that he added the exemption after getting pressure from the Treasury Department.
"I agreed reluctantly," Dodd said. "I was changing the amendment because others were insistent.""
We all know his 'reluctance' was anything but. http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/03/before-the ...
I'm not blaming Dodd exclusively, but this article is nonsense. He is guilty of being a part of this scam just like so many other politicians. His 'reluctance' is *****. - akchrs, on 03/21/2009, -12/+26I blame Teleprompter, he signed the bailout without even reading it.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -4/+17FTA: "The public record reflects that Dodd championed tougher provisions than the White House or the Treasury Department wanted, and that the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LOBBIED FOR removal of the Dodd language from the stimulus bill that the president eventually signed. Dodd protested at the time, and agreed to the removal of his language only under protest." (emphasis added, language unchanged)
So, if we are being factual and reporting honestly, what is the more important observation to make here?
That Republicans pointed at the wrong Democrat, who was actually the correct Democrat, but was working against his own will?
OR
The President who claimed to be shocked and outraged about the bonuses in his 2 town hall rallies and his Leno appearance yesterday, was one of the people WHO LOBBIED FOR THEM TO BE IN?
2 things can be for sure. Dodd and Obama both received personal campaign contributions from AIG and both of them are being untruthful to some degree. Which one is flat-out lying? That's the only thing left open for speculation. - Doc123, on 03/21/2009, -13/+26Doesn't Ayers work for the Annenberg foundation?
- theskillwithin, on 03/21/2009, -34/+46OBAMA received campaign money from AIG.
FACT - Flipperbw, on 03/21/2009, -6/+18I remember him SPECIFICALLY saying he had "nothing to do" with the amendment on Tuesday, and then say he did on Wednesday. His fault or not, I criticize this.
- mogebier, on 03/21/2009, -11/+23Then why did Dodd go on the news yesterday and take responsibility for it?
He was on TV earlier in the week saying that the bill left without the wording in it and came back with it in it and he had nothing to do with it.
Then yesterday he was on TV saying that he was pressured by the White House to put it in.
Which is it? Either he is taking responsibility for it or not. This web site has an obvious bias. - Eorster, on 03/21/2009, -2/+14This guy lost all integrity when he decided to take a Dodd Home Loan (TM) mortgage from country slime. Yep, even you can get a Dodd Loan (TM) if your FICO is 870 or above. 870 and above is that special FICO number range reserved only for members of congress. 880, well that can only go to the banking committee chairman.
- Starble, on 03/20/2009, -11/+23I think all this says is: Yes, Dodd had a hand in it, but the reporting is wrong to single him out. Which means the full story still hasn't been told. Who pressured him to back down? (Somehow I doubt it was the Republicans.)
- Willtheway, on 03/21/2009, -11/+23factcheck.org
The internet propaganda outlet of the Obama administration - jonnyboy1544, on 03/21/2009, -7/+18Okay, rest easy Connecticut, your senator is easily bullied by Obama. Enough reason to vote for him again. It's good that the guy won't do whats right because it won't score him points with the new guys on the block.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -1/+12FTA: "Dodd protested at the time, and agreed to the removal of his language".
Sounds pretty cut and dry to me. Dodd decided to slurp the administration. - Digger1123, on 03/21/2009, -10/+21Even Dodd came out and said he authored it. The sliver of believability they had left is now gone.
- Karmashock, on 03/21/2009, -15/+25Actually, it was the democrats that threw Dodd under the bus. He's hardly been the first and he'll not be the last. The dems have started to cannibalize each other.
It has begun. - Frostman3D, on 03/21/2009, -0/+9There were more than Republicans blaming him. Democrats piled on too. Let's be honest.
- Landthatilove, on 03/21/2009, -4/+13"Some Republicans have been quick to blame Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut for allowing big bonus payments to AIG executives. They get the facts backward."
My, my my. That's so stupid it's funny. SOME REPUBLICANS! Like Republicans are out to get Dodd. No PEOPLE are realizing that THIS ADMINISTRATION put these things in play. Nice spin boys. It doesn't fly. I can understand why liberals are so upset. They hated Bush for so many years. They finally got one of their own in, and when he put hell on the fast track, they just don't know what to do, so they try to justify hell. Dodd asked Geithner if it was okay to leave the bonuses in. Geithner said yes. I guess we can attempt to rewrite it though. - roho76, on 03/21/2009, -0/+9He knew it was there and didn't try to stop it. Which means he sold himself out.
He failed the American people at that point and many points before that. - akchrs, on 03/21/2009, -8/+17So did Dodd. FACT.
- MaxxusFlamus, on 03/21/2009, -10/+19the facts, and reality have a liberal slant to it.
- spritom, on 03/21/2009, -3/+10Regarding Geithner who claimed he found out about the bonus stuff on March 10th
FTA: "Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has taken public responsibility for that."
HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinso ...
[Geithner] "...I take full responsibility for that."
"This is the official Geithner and Obama administration line. But it's just that -- a line. It's not the truth. The truth is that Geithner knew everything he needed to know about the AIG bonuses long before March 10, did nothing about them, and then feigned outrage when the truth came out. Here's the smoking gun proof. "
[long list of Geithner knowing including March 3 of him on CSPAN] - mgraham80, on 03/21/2009, -10/+17Someone needs to fact check you.
- mogebier, on 03/21/2009, -10/+17It's not "conventional wisdom" that says it, it's Dodd's own words. They have been playing the TV clips. Hello?
- NICU, on 03/21/2009, -3/+9Dodd was the only one who could have prevented the bonuses. He did not stick to his original idea and rolled over under pressure. He is the only person you can blame - he is the only one who had the ability to block it and he buckled under pressure.
- PopcornDave, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6I have a feeling that we're going to know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop before we find that out.
Dodd sure didn't do himself any favors when he was being questioned by the CNN reporter the other day. - dayal911, on 03/21/2009, -4/+10Relax. The Obama administration asked Dodd to remove those restrictions.
This is the same administration that claimed they didn't know about said restrictions.
Either way, the Democrats are talking out of their ass. - zKman, on 03/21/2009, -1/+6FACT. Bears eat beets.
- lwhassell, on 03/21/2009, -1/+6I think its still perfectly fine to blame Dodd so long as you blame every other Senator and Representative that voted for the bill. They're all guilty as sin. They were elected to do a job and they have failed miserably at even the simplest part of it... read the damn bill before voting on it!
- digdug135, on 03/21/2009, -0/+5I don't understand the logic. Dodd may have favored X or Y or Z, but why shouldn't he be judged on what he actually did? Maybe the blame should extend past him, but he shouldn't be blameless because "pressure" came from elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure my parents would say something like: "If Obama and Treasury told you to jump of a bridge, would you do it?" if I tried to pass the buck like this. - MaxxusFlamus, on 03/21/2009, -8/+13citation plz.
kthx. - kaelyiesta, on 03/20/2009, -9/+14pickleprince, ask Dodd. He outright stated he undermined his own amendment.
That's the point at hand which I refuted that the article tries to make. You can even look in thomas.gov to see his name on the changes that allowed this loophole.
Come on. - whoitis, on 03/21/2009, -1/+5two words.....term limits
- RainCloud, on 03/21/2009, -0/+4So if the administration pressured him into changing this... why the hell are they so angry about the bonuses? They have no one to blame but themselves.
- Kangaroo12001, on 03/21/2009, -3/+7Guess you didnt watch the press briefing today...Gibbs said the same thing.
- enantiodromia, on 03/21/2009, -10/+14according to meilong, anything that is critical of the GOP is a "left-wing shill site".
- BurgGuy, on 03/21/2009, -1/+5The genuinely sad part about all of this controversy is the misdirection away from the multi billions of our tax dollars that AIG has squandered. Follow the money trail from AIG to the Washington hacks and pols, both the Dems and Republicans are feasting at that trough, enabling more corruption that got us into this mess. Anyone who believes that this is a game of gotcha, misses the fact that these folks stole our money.
- 0xbaadf00d, on 03/21/2009, -8/+12Just follow the money...
Most money from AIG:
1. Dodd.
2. Obama.
3. McCain. -
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