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- postingbh, on 11/02/2007, -4/+194Best line of the whole night.
- SoyJames, on 11/02/2007, -4/+160That WAS funny. But at the same time- not funny at all.
Remember back when we were all positive that Bush was so batsh*t insane that NOBODY would vote for him? god help us all. - jbur816, on 11/05/2007, -0/+84Yeah, in a Post 9/11 world, jokes cease being funny.
- OutAndAbout, on 11/01/2007, -2/+74It's about time someone in the Dem camp called him out on this. Many New Yorkers (like myself) are appalled at how often Rudy uses the so called "9/11 card", and more so the fact that a term like this now exists...
We got ashes on our clothes that day too Rudy, but we don't use them to get a job. - plizard, on 11/01/2007, -3/+74penguins (noun) hate (verb) 9/11.
***** i'm running for president! - dunderballer, on 11/12/2007, -5/+61I like Biden. He says weird things every once in awhile but he certainly is qualified in terms of knowledge, experience, and intelligence.
- ClosedCaption, on 11/01/2007, -7/+62I've never seen Rudy's first wife but she must be out of this world HOT! Anyone who marries their cousin has to have a reason. Unless being ***** nasty is the reason.
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+51Yeah, Rudy is the "successful business executive" of a company with about 50 employees, one of whom is a known child molester. Another was the criminal Bernie Kerik. And let's not forget the former FBI employee who admitted to stealing 9/11 artifacts from ground zero. Giuliani Partners also touted classy clients like drug smuggler Hank Asher. All of that in just 5 years, nice work Rudy.
On the other hand, here's Joe Biden's record:
* U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, (Chairman)
o As Chairman of the full committee Biden is an ex officio member of each subcommittee.
* U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary
o Subcommittee on Antitrust Competition Policy and Consumer Rights
o Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, (Chairman)
o Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
o Subcommittee on Immigration Border Security and Citizenship
o Subcommittee on Technology Terrorism and Homeland Security
* Caucus on International Narcotics Control (Co-Chairman) - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+47Damn man, you are giving WAY too much credit to people who marry their cousins here.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -0/+40Oh right, I forgot. Thanks for reminding me, otherwise I might have gone outside with unsoiled pants on.
- HonestAbe, on 11/02/2007, -5/+40Welcome to America, where our leadership is decided based on looks and catch phrases.
Though "a noun, a verb, and 9/11" is one of the better ones. Let's hope it sticks in people's heads. - postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -2/+29Yeah, the 9/11 Commission Report goes on and on about humor emboldening terrorists. Nevermind foreign policy, humor is the real problem here.
- Frei, on 11/01/2007, -2/+28I agree with the others saying it's about time. Rudy is a flake and is exploiting what happened on 9/11/2001 to try and earn points with people who don't already realize he's a douschecannon. The media fails, as usual, to point out how he connects everything to 9/11. It's disgusting.
- ClosedCaption, on 11/01/2007, -0/+25Are you saying that Postinbh is lying...Because if its true, you realize you're supporting someone who hires child molesters, Bernie Kerik nuff said, and stealing from the World Trade. Seriously, if you know about these things and still back him then you qualify as a Rudy Fan boy and reality just doesnt matter to you more than supporting this idiot who walked around after 9/11 because he was HOMELESS. His office was on fire and didnt have anywhere to go.
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+25Alan Placa was suspended by the Roman Catholic Church over the repeated child molestation accusations. The reason Placa wasn't prosecuted is because the statute of limitations had expired. Placa, Kerik, and the former FBI employee are a testament to the kinds of people Rudy not only associates with but employs.
The issue is Rudy's lack of foreign policy experience at a time when our country needs it most. Meanwhile, he best answer any Rudy supporter can give is saying the UN is located in NY and that it's an international city? Weak.
Your Rudy allegiance is clearly unwavering and entirely unconvincing. - Firehed, on 11/06/2007, -2/+26Did we really need someone in a debate to tell us this? Is the mainstream world so stupid that they can't make the connection on their own, and realize that Rudy's platform consists entirely of being a ***** mayor when tragedy struck? I'm no New Yorker, but I very consistently hear that Giuliani was widely hated as the mayor of NYC prior to becoming "America's Mayor".
Honestly, it's concepts like that which give conspiracy theories some degree of credibility. Something bad happens, citizens lose rights while those in power gain more authority, and then people who campaign on the platform of the tragic event by means of scare tactics and the future administration needing even MORE power are frontrunners in the political race. Draw your own conclusions, but if he takes office, I can't say I'd be too surprised if there's another attack that ends up rewarding the government with even more power over its citizens.
Oh, and a hint: killing the entire Middle East really isn't the best approach for trying to prevent future terrorist attacks. Completely disregarding the fact that the plane thing has been done and won't happen again, pissing off hundreds of millions of people who believe that dying for a cause gets them into heaven by bombing them really isn't preventative medicine. If the next president accepts that we have cultural differences and attempts to repair the damage we've done over there, we might be able to ease up on the hatred towards our own culture and take away the reason for people to want to harm us.
If someone wants to blow themselves up in the middle of Times Square or commit some other act of terrorism, there's really not a whole lot we can do to stop someone sufficiently determined. It's a fact of life. Rather than screwing over the other 99.9999% of the population in order to stop the one nutcase, we'd be better off getting to the source of the problem. More people die of natural causes every hour (or perhaps it's every minute?) than died in the 9/11 attacks, and go look up the stats for every other of the zillion different types of preventable deaths. Everyone will die eventually, and some people are going to lose their lives earlier than they should. It's a risk you take by being born. It's incredibly unfortunate when it happens, but there are a TON of things out there that pose a significantly higher risk to human life than a terrorist attack. Fix drunk driving, cancer, AIDS, smoking, car crashes (not involving alcohol), and countless other things before making terrorism prevention your campaign platform - all of them pose significantly higher risks.
Mortality is a certainty; freedom isn't. - reuscel, on 11/01/2007, -3/+23I ***** LOVE Joe Biden!! It's talk like this that makes him so appealing.
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -0/+20http://www.kbcc.cuny.edu/sub-about/images/dr_perug ...
You're goggles won't do *****... just a warning in advance. - danasghar, on 11/05/2007, -1/+20I wish I could have watched that debate live RZ8472, its this damn Duct tape ive got wrapped around my house for the last 6 years that the GOP told me to do, I get ***** reception ever since. Please guys let me know when we win the war on "terror" so I can come out.
- MonsterChaOS, on 11/01/2007, -2/+19Good point... Someone who spent 8 years in the White House probably has no idea what goes on in there
[/sarcasm] - fnaqzna, on 11/01/2007, -2/+19Also notable that Biden was one of the few candidates that resisted the urge to snipe at other Democrats and go after a Republican instead.
Giuliani is probably dying for Hillary to run against him. Dodd spoke around the topic of electability and he's probably right. She will energize the GOP more than any Republican candidate can hope for. - Kinkistyle, on 11/01/2007, -4/+21Noun and verb are actually optional
- noumuon, on 11/01/2007, -1/+17it never ceases to amaze me. for every stupid person who writes some idiotic comment, there's an equally stupid person who thinks they're joking.
- woofers07, on 11/01/2007, -2/+17you must have failed sentence diagramming in middle school
- Anub1s, on 11/01/2007, -0/+14Prepare to be unpleasantly surprised....
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/01/2007, -4/+17Also never ran a business, state, or city:
(Rudy's benchmark for being President)
Gerald Ford
Richard Nixon
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Bob Dole
Fred Thompson
John McCain - borninda818, on 11/05/2007, -8/+21He is obviously joking...what is with the brutal negative digging?
- petewiz, on 11/01/2007, -0/+13With a name like leftykiller, I'm sure you have a realistic and totally non-partisan view of the world.
/sarcasm - unknownsoldierX, on 11/01/2007, -0/+13I clicked, and I was shell-shocked. My hand fell of the mouse and all I could do was franticly reach for ALT-F4, with my eye squinted.
- copyland, on 11/01/2007, -0/+12"post 9/11 world" translated: "I am an illiterate American and cannot describe things for myself, so I'll use a meaningless phrase that illustrates how ***** afraid I am of the rest of the world." Conservatives are cowards.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -0/+12Also Biden's hair pwns Rudy's non-hair.
Hair Club for Men FTW! - Acewrap, on 11/01/2007, -1/+13Because the line between a normal person joking and a Republican just talking has been erased.
- JlmAWP, on 11/01/2007, -2/+13Yeah man, pick your battles.
- CaptainNoPants, on 11/01/2007, -3/+14Idiot!
- kinseyincanada, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11Biden has the best experience for foreign relations by far, f any other candidate, and in this day and age that is a very important issue.
- azprofessional, on 11/01/2007, -0/+112000 republicans: Noun, verb, and "Clinton = Hitler". Gee that all aligned with reality quite appropriately didn't it rightwing cockslaps?
A blow job in office is far worse than bankrupting the country with war budgets isnt it chickenhawks? - KingBunny, on 11/02/2007, -1/+12*cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogy *cough*
"one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." - ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11The best part of that debate was watching Hilary say, "But, but...I'm not a Republican" for the millionth time. It was refreshing to see Democrats attack the worst candidate on the podium because, let's face it, she's business as usual, she's the establishment. Sometimes when everybody's against you you're doing something right, other times you're doing something very, very wrong.
- azprofessional, on 11/01/2007, -0/+10Buddy if you're an unappologetic Republican ***** gobbler then say it, stop dropping your troll turds everywhere though. You really have no credibility and the fact that you will spend what seems like all day trolling anything non-righty indicates you could possibly win most pathetic human in existence.
If people with intergrity scare you, then fine being a raving lunatic is great if thats what you're into. However I think people have had enough of that type of so called 'leadership' even if he is from a small state and isn't a big media greased heavy hitter it doesn't make what he said less on the ball.
P.S. THE RANGERS SUCK - humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9When "trying to prevent future terrorist attacks" means surrendering freedoms, then that's exactly right. Simple, isn't it?
Stop rewarding people for playing off of your fear and cowardice. Liberty is worth dying for. - iamsamed, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9He'll get the nomination. That's what works in America - bumper sticker slogans and shallow rhetoric. It's times like these I really respect our Founding Fathers for making this country a republic and not a democracy. Just imagine if all those mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, morons out there who buy into this crap had a direct line into government. At least, there's buffer. I'm saying that our elected leaders are any better, but it could be worse.
Please spare me the "Bush wasn't elected!" It's old news. - thevelvetsun, on 11/01/2007, -4/+13OMG. I love this guy!
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9youpolls eh? trying to cash in and stick in people's minds because it sounds like youtube...yeah.... i just don't see it working.
By the way i never clicked your smelly link. - keloster, on 11/01/2007, -1/+10awesome call out!
- Klak, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9thats a run-on
- thefandango, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9who the hell puts animal crackers in soup?
- ozymandias2012, on 11/01/2007, -10/+18If 9/11 wasn't such a horrible event this would be funny but the way these politicians throw it around like a punchline it's no wonder no one gives a ***** about all those dead people.
- bacon_skoda, on 11/01/2007, -1/+9more than Guilinani.
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -1/+9Yeah, Rudy did a great job setting up NYC's infrastructure, law enforcement, sanitation, etc. It's not like NYC had those things before Rudy entered office.
I'm not saying Biden has the right leadership experience. But I would take Biden's foreign policy and overall experience over Rudy's any day. Rudy is completely clueless about foreign policy. He openly says 9/11 had nothing to do with American foreign policy. He's absolutely delusional. Giuliani only hangs his experience hat on 2 things:
1) 9/11. Not that he did a good job, just that he was there and that it happened. He doesn't have the balls to ask the firefighters or rescue workers about his performance regarding 9/11.
2) Crime reduction, which the DOJ shows clearly had been declining 4 years before Giuliani took office ( http://samoa.istat.it/Eventi/sicurezza/relazioni/L ... via http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm ). Not to mention other major cities were experiencing large reductions in crime as well; NYC was definitely not unique.
Sure, he was an alright mayor, but being mayor doesn't qualify someone to be president. You need more experience and foreign policy is a good place to start. -
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