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Biden: Rudy's Sentences Consist Of "A Noun, A Verb, And 9/11"
huffingtonpost.com — Sen. Joe Biden nails Rudy Giuliani during Tuesday's MSNBC debate: "And the irony is, Rudy Giuliani, probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency, is here talking about any of the people here. I mean, think about it! Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11!"
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- postingbh, on 11/02/2007, -4/+193Best line of the whole night.
- fnaqzna, on 11/01/2007, -2/+19Also notable that Biden was one of the few candidates that resisted the urge to snipe at other Democrats and go after a Republican instead.
Giuliani is probably dying for Hillary to run against him. Dodd spoke around the topic of electability and he's probably right. She will energize the GOP more than any Republican candidate can hope for.- actorboy, on 11/02/2007, -1/+5Actually, I though Hillary went after the republicans too much. I'm tired of the "we're not them" campaign strategy. So the ***** what, tell me what you're going to do instead of positioning yourself as the anti-republican. This country has been divided for too long -- we need someone to unite us instead of furthering the us and them mentality.
- ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11The best part of that debate was watching Hilary say, "But, but...I'm not a Republican" for the millionth time. It was refreshing to see Democrats attack the worst candidate on the podium because, let's face it, she's business as usual, she's the establishment. Sometimes when everybody's against you you're doing something right, other times you're doing something very, very wrong.
- Kindjal, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2i am confused, not in a mental way, but in a political way. is hilary what she is promoting in her campaign?
- RJGONZO, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Kindjal, the fact that you have to ask that question says it all.
- ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11The best part of that debate was watching Hilary say, "But, but...I'm not a Republican" for the millionth time. It was refreshing to see Democrats attack the worst candidate on the podium because, let's face it, she's business as usual, she's the establishment. Sometimes when everybody's against you you're doing something right, other times you're doing something very, very wrong.
- cjhowe, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1I know it's being shouted by the media, but the notion that people show up to the polls because of what they're against is ridiculous. You're all sheep and being setup to think that there is a difference between Hillary and Giuliani or Romney. The only thing that separates the three is the logistics behind how they want to divert hundreds of billions of the peoples money into the coffers of their friends at the insurance companies. One wants you to cut a check to the government so the government can pay them and the others want you to cut the check directly to the insurance companies. There's no difference. Don't be fooled by the strategists. Their goal is not to get their candidate elected, but to make you think there's a difference between ***** and *****. All of you are *****.
- actorboy, on 11/02/2007, -1/+5Actually, I though Hillary went after the republicans too much. I'm tired of the "we're not them" campaign strategy. So the ***** what, tell me what you're going to do instead of positioning yourself as the anti-republican. This country has been divided for too long -- we need someone to unite us instead of furthering the us and them mentality.
- Kindjal, on 11/01/2007, -1/+3i am german, but this was a real stand up to the powers that be! I really enjoyed it!
- Randinn, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Ah, too bad it's too late here really, both Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin. All you need to see who's fronting them money to see who they really work for...
- DMCer, on 11/01/2007, -12/+2Wow, what an exaggeration. Clearly nobody digging this up has seen interviews with Giuliani. The only time he mentions 9/11 is when a reporter asks him about it.
- Randinn, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1He must have been high....
- fearlessfx, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5Imagine if Ron Paul had been the one to say this... i think digg would explode
- SOhp101, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6My respect for Biden has increased by 9.11%.
- fnaqzna, on 11/01/2007, -2/+19Also notable that Biden was one of the few candidates that resisted the urge to snipe at other Democrats and go after a Republican instead.
- SoyJames, on 11/02/2007, -4/+160That WAS funny. But at the same time- not funny at all.
Remember back when we were all positive that Bush was so batsh*t insane that NOBODY would vote for him? god help us all.- whatsupimphil, on 11/01/2007, -12/+3What's with the laughter in the background? The introduction says this was a debate... has politics turned into a joke in this country?
- Insuperabilis, on 11/01/2007, -0/+8can't people have a sense of humor?
- yoleeo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Why don't you try watching the entire debate? People laughing at Biden's sincere comment are the least of our worries in politics. Having a genuine politician that makes people smile really doesn't seem so bad.
- Randinn, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2It's been that for decades, where have YOU been?
- RJGONZO, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2Politics has been a joke in this country since Bush Senior left office. But a little comedy never hurt anyone, especially in this day and age.
- whatsupimphil, on 11/01/2007, -12/+3What's with the laughter in the background? The introduction says this was a debate... has politics turned into a joke in this country?
- rz8472, on 11/05/2007, -106/+10Biden, you bastard. That joke would've only been funny if not for 9/11. We're living in a post-9/11 world and you Dems fail to realize that.
- jbur816, on 11/05/2007, -0/+84Yeah, in a Post 9/11 world, jokes cease being funny.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -30/+10Humor only helps to embolden the terrorists.
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -2/+29Yeah, the 9/11 Commission Report goes on and on about humor emboldening terrorists. Nevermind foreign policy, humor is the real problem here.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -9/+4Yes. Every time you make a joke about 9/11, you are figuratively urinating on the graves of the 9/11 victims. And Baby Jesus cries.
- relentless1914, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Don't feed the trolls....
- grinchdec23, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Stop making jokes about it then, assclown !
- Pritchard, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Troll! :D
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -2/+29Yeah, the 9/11 Commission Report goes on and on about humor emboldening terrorists. Nevermind foreign policy, humor is the real problem here.
- joebob, on 11/01/2007, -1/+4I heard it somehow sponsors the kicking of puppies and gives you the AIDS as well. It all well documented in conservopedia.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -30/+10Humor only helps to embolden the terrorists.
- macweirdo42, on 11/05/2007, -0/+40Oh right, I forgot. Thanks for reminding me, otherwise I might have gone outside with unsoiled pants on.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -0/+4Be afraid! Sparta will burn to the ground! (really, are people that dense? Oh well, time to play my fake role to the bitter end)
Oh yeah, and something about Hitler coming out of the grave and shooting laser beams out of his eye sockets. that always scares people.- RJGONZO, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1You should have said "Hitler coming out of the grave and nuking Imaginationland!"
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -0/+4Be afraid! Sparta will burn to the ground! (really, are people that dense? Oh well, time to play my fake role to the bitter end)
- borninda818, on 11/05/2007, -8/+21He is obviously joking...what is with the brutal negative digging?
- wendelgee2, on 11/01/2007, -2/+10Better add a /jk tag.
- noumuon, on 11/01/2007, -1/+17it never ceases to amaze me. for every stupid person who writes some idiotic comment, there's an equally stupid person who thinks they're joking.
- jmpeagle, on 11/01/2007, -2/+2they are joking, just loook at his cooment history
http://digg.com/users/rz8472/history/comments - rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -1/+3And then there's an even stupider third stupid person who thinks I'm not joking and that the person who thinks I'm joking is equally as stupid as I am? Seriously. Everyone who still thinks I'm not joking even after all this time needs to apply for the Darwin Awards or get a ***** sense of humor.
- Chicken2nite, on 11/01/2007, -1/+1Riiight, cause you know, a 9/11 joke before 9/11 would've killed.
- jmpeagle, on 11/01/2007, -2/+2they are joking, just loook at his cooment history
- Acewrap, on 11/01/2007, -1/+13Because the line between a normal person joking and a Republican just talking has been erased.
- macweirdo42, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Damn double-posting.
- macweirdo42, on 11/01/2007, -1/+3I think the comment "Humor only helps to embolden the terrorists." was a dead giveaway. Even the Republicans aren't THAT weird (as close though they may be).
- danasghar, on 11/05/2007, -1/+20I wish I could have watched that debate live RZ8472, its this damn Duct tape ive got wrapped around my house for the last 6 years that the GOP told me to do, I get ***** reception ever since. Please guys let me know when we win the war on "terror" so I can come out.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -2/+1The War on Terror ends when WarJesus 40,000 comes down from heaven and smites all the evildoers. Isaac Newton says that it will be the year 2060 AD, so mark your calendars people. That, or when the Left Behind: Eternal Forces RTS sells enough copies.
- wiihuck, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2in post-9/11 America the joke tells you.
eh? - ciaran036, on 11/01/2007, -1/+6omfg. Right, and since when did 9/11 become the centre of everything in the world? A "Post 9/11 world". The only difference since 9/11 is that you have less rights and a ***** load of innocent civilians in the Middle East have been ripped apart by bullets from US soldiers and mercenaries.
- copyland, on 11/01/2007, -0/+12"post 9/11 world" translated: "I am an illiterate American and cannot describe things for myself, so I'll use a meaningless phrase that illustrates how ***** afraid I am of the rest of the world." Conservatives are cowards.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -2/+2Literate enough to read the color-coded terror alerts. And that's all I'll ever need.
- vortz83, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1It's sad that people allow themselves to be so controlled by "terror" that they can say something like "that's all i'll ever need"
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -2/+2Literate enough to read the color-coded terror alerts. And that's all I'll ever need.
- chrisegilbert, on 11/01/2007, -0/+29/11 is soooo 2001
- RTourn, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Terrorist want to change you, they want to to be paranoid to be afraid to act different than what you are. Everyone here has respect for those fallen, but have the courage to face terrorism with the defense of the Freedoms they despise so much in us. Rudy is living in the past. Biden's point there is the world kept on spinning after 9/11 and we have other challenges to face.
- jbur816, on 11/05/2007, -0/+84Yeah, in a Post 9/11 world, jokes cease being funny.
- leftykiller, on 11/05/2007, -79/+3Who is a senator of a puny state like Delaware, with an economy no bigger than Staten Island, to be calling a successful two term executive of an economy/government larger than many nations, "unqualified?" Rudy was also a successful business executive. Has Biden ever even held a job in the private sector?
What makes Biden's internet echo-chamber attack even more lame is the fact that when Hillary inevitably does get the Dim nomination, he will whole heartedly back her for president, even though she has even less experience than him.- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+51Yeah, Rudy is the "successful business executive" of a company with about 50 employees, one of whom is a known child molester. Another was the criminal Bernie Kerik. And let's not forget the former FBI employee who admitted to stealing 9/11 artifacts from ground zero. Giuliani Partners also touted classy clients like drug smuggler Hank Asher. All of that in just 5 years, nice work Rudy.
On the other hand, here's Joe Biden's record:
* U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, (Chairman)
o As Chairman of the full committee Biden is an ex officio member of each subcommittee.
* U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary
o Subcommittee on Antitrust Competition Policy and Consumer Rights
o Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, (Chairman)
o Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
o Subcommittee on Immigration Border Security and Citizenship
o Subcommittee on Technology Terrorism and Homeland Security
* Caucus on International Narcotics Control (Co-Chairman)- leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -39/+0Spin it however you like, Biden is a career washington insider with no executive experience in the public or private sector. He wouldn't even be qualified to run the smallest NYC agency.
- ClosedCaption, on 11/01/2007, -0/+25Are you saying that Postinbh is lying...Because if its true, you realize you're supporting someone who hires child molesters, Bernie Kerik nuff said, and stealing from the World Trade. Seriously, if you know about these things and still back him then you qualify as a Rudy Fan boy and reality just doesnt matter to you more than supporting this idiot who walked around after 9/11 because he was HOMELESS. His office was on fire and didnt have anywhere to go.
- leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -38/+0Yes, Postinbh is lying. The priest hasn't even been indicted, he's been accused. To say he's a "known child molester" is a blatant lie. Bernard Keirik did nothing inappropriate while employed by Giuliani, and what a former FBI employee stealing 9/11 artifacts has to do with the mayor is anyones guess.
And whether Rudy had 50 employees or 500 is irrelevant. The point is he had them, unlike Mr. 1% and the candidate he'll be supporting for president.- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+25Alan Placa was suspended by the Roman Catholic Church over the repeated child molestation accusations. The reason Placa wasn't prosecuted is because the statute of limitations had expired. Placa, Kerik, and the former FBI employee are a testament to the kinds of people Rudy not only associates with but employs.
The issue is Rudy's lack of foreign policy experience at a time when our country needs it most. Meanwhile, he best answer any Rudy supporter can give is saying the UN is located in NY and that it's an international city? Weak.
Your Rudy allegiance is clearly unwavering and entirely unconvincing. - leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -13/+0Do you understand the preparation and planning it takes, the knowledge...the ability to delegate responsibilities in a city full of 8 million people? The transportation infrastructure, law enforcement, sanitation, housing authorities, school systems... Joe Biden has never come close to that kind of responsibility in a minuscule city like Dover let alone a gargantuan metropolis like NYC.
You can argue all you want about Rudy allegedly surrounding himself with bad individuals, the fact is his 8 years as Mayor were the best NYC has seen since Fiorello LaGuardia. - postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -1/+9Yeah, Rudy did a great job setting up NYC's infrastructure, law enforcement, sanitation, etc. It's not like NYC had those things before Rudy entered office.
I'm not saying Biden has the right leadership experience. But I would take Biden's foreign policy and overall experience over Rudy's any day. Rudy is completely clueless about foreign policy. He openly says 9/11 had nothing to do with American foreign policy. He's absolutely delusional. Giuliani only hangs his experience hat on 2 things:
1) 9/11. Not that he did a good job, just that he was there and that it happened. He doesn't have the balls to ask the firefighters or rescue workers about his performance regarding 9/11.
2) Crime reduction, which the DOJ shows clearly had been declining 4 years before Giuliani took office ( http://samoa.istat.it/Eventi/sicurezza/relazioni/L ... via http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm ). Not to mention other major cities were experiencing large reductions in crime as well; NYC was definitely not unique.
Sure, he was an alright mayor, but being mayor doesn't qualify someone to be president. You need more experience and foreign policy is a good place to start. - leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -11/+1"But I would take Biden's foreign policy and overall experience over Rudy's any day."
Nonsense. Biden is part of a debating society. Having foreign policy experience would actually mean having some type of dealings with other nations, be it trade, extradition policies, enforcing international laws...
Joe Biden has none of that, and neither does any candidate he'll be backing (Hillary) in the general election.
As Rudy correctly pointed out, the only thing Biden has ever run is his mouth. - postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6Biden foreign policy experience:
- The Biden-Gelb Plan for Iraq (renamed The Biden-Brownback Resolution) to end sectarian violence in Iraq, passed as a bipartisan measure
- Serving as the ranking minority member in the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
- Dealing with Balkans
- Calling on Libya to release political prisoners
But of course, you don't think any of that counts. Now for Rudy's foreign policy experience:
- He once threw Yasser Arafat out of the Lincoln Center
But just like Rudy, you have consistently tried to turn any criticism of Rudy into commentary about Hillary. You should understand that it's OK to admit Rudy is inexperienced. You could even say, "Yeah, he's inexperienced, but he's decisive," or something and not sound like a defensive goon entirely unwilling to concede a rather obvious point.
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+25Alan Placa was suspended by the Roman Catholic Church over the repeated child molestation accusations. The reason Placa wasn't prosecuted is because the statute of limitations had expired. Placa, Kerik, and the former FBI employee are a testament to the kinds of people Rudy not only associates with but employs.
- kinseyincanada, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11Biden has the best experience for foreign relations by far, f any other candidate, and in this day and age that is a very important issue.
- petewiz, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6I don't think Biden would be that great of a president, but I would have more faith in him than in Rudy. Giuliani is someone who takes credit for other people's hard work and things he had nothing to do with. His two biggest claims to fame are 9/11 and the crime rate; two things he had nothing to do with. Crime went down everywhere in America while he was mayor, because unemployment also went down during that time. He takes credit for it, but Dinkins was the one who increased the number of police. The crime rate was already going down before he was elected. Rudy is a ***** fraud. And when he says the neocons are going to protect the country, he conveniently forgets that they were the ones in power when we got attacked. What a jackass.
- mille716, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5News flash for you leftykiller, being a successful senator for decades gives you far more preparation for the office of the presidency than running a company. Believe it or not, corporations do not equal government in purpose, organization or operation.
- Elranzer, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2"The priest hasn't even been indicted, he's been accused. To say he's a "known child molester" is a blatant lie."
Wow lefty, you've stooped to defending a child molester just to back your delusional partisanship. Also, in case you or Mr. 9/11 don't realize by now: NYC is not the USA.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -0/+12Also Biden's hair pwns Rudy's non-hair.
Hair Club for Men FTW! - petewiz, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6Don't forget about him defending the makers of Oxycontin, but denying medical marijuana's scientifically proven health benefits.
What a hypocritical *****.
- leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -39/+0Spin it however you like, Biden is a career washington insider with no executive experience in the public or private sector. He wouldn't even be qualified to run the smallest NYC agency.
- petewiz, on 11/01/2007, -0/+13With a name like leftykiller, I'm sure you have a realistic and totally non-partisan view of the world.
/sarcasm - azprofessional, on 11/01/2007, -0/+10Buddy if you're an unappologetic Republican ***** gobbler then say it, stop dropping your troll turds everywhere though. You really have no credibility and the fact that you will spend what seems like all day trolling anything non-righty indicates you could possibly win most pathetic human in existence.
If people with intergrity scare you, then fine being a raving lunatic is great if thats what you're into. However I think people have had enough of that type of so called 'leadership' even if he is from a small state and isn't a big media greased heavy hitter it doesn't make what he said less on the ball.
P.S. THE RANGERS SUCK - RearNakedChoke, on 11/01/2007, -0/+3Executive experience doesn't mean anything. Ever heard of Enron? Incompetence occurs just as frequently with business executives as it does with the garbage collector.
Secondly, many first time CEOs who never had any prior executive experience have done not only great, but better than many "experienced" CEOs. Bill Gates is a famous example. There are many others. - savetheusa1, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2And when he takes all of our civil liberties away I bet you will be happy then too
- postingbh, on 11/01/2007, -0/+51Yeah, Rudy is the "successful business executive" of a company with about 50 employees, one of whom is a known child molester. Another was the criminal Bernie Kerik. And let's not forget the former FBI employee who admitted to stealing 9/11 artifacts from ground zero. Giuliani Partners also touted classy clients like drug smuggler Hank Asher. All of that in just 5 years, nice work Rudy.
- ClosedCaption, on 11/01/2007, -7/+62I've never seen Rudy's first wife but she must be out of this world HOT! Anyone who marries their cousin has to have a reason. Unless being ***** nasty is the reason.
- macweirdo42, on 11/01/2007, -0/+47Damn man, you are giving WAY too much credit to people who marry their cousins here.
- Anub1s, on 11/01/2007, -0/+14Prepare to be unpleasantly surprised....
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -0/+20http://www.kbcc.cuny.edu/sub-about/images/dr_perug ...
You're goggles won't do *****... just a warning in advance.- unknownsoldierX, on 11/01/2007, -0/+13I clicked, and I was shell-shocked. My hand fell of the mouse and all I could do was franticly reach for ALT-F4, with my eye squinted.
- ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2I literally just gurgled, "Oh my God!"
- Bilabrin, on 11/01/2007, -3/+1Was that Pelosi? :)
- SillyDigger, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Rudy is that you?
Anyway she (Regina Peruggi) is Rudy's first wife.
- rz8472, on 11/01/2007, -2/+7Maybe Rudy should marry his cross-dressing alter-ego "Rudina", since he's so fond of everything he did during his mayoral days.
That, and make 'her' 'his' running mate. Rudy-Rudina '08.
*shudder* - kingp, on 11/01/2007, -2/+1Here you go dude:
http://www.studentworldassembly.org/Leadership/ima ... - somekids, on 11/01/2007, -6/+1Einstein married his cousin.
- Bilabrin, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1I know you didn't just compare Rudy Giuliani to Einstien!
- dunderballer, on 11/12/2007, -5/+61I like Biden. He says weird things every once in awhile but he certainly is qualified in terms of knowledge, experience, and intelligence.
- KMye, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1I think he's the best candidate out of either party, but unfortunately, barring an act of God in NH or Iowa, he doesn't seem to stand a chance. At this point I'm just hoping Clinton will make him SecState or SecDef when she's elected.
- greenwald, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Agreed.
- KMye, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1I think he's the best candidate out of either party, but unfortunately, barring an act of God in NH or Iowa, he doesn't seem to stand a chance. At this point I'm just hoping Clinton will make him SecState or SecDef when she's elected.
- Royal0, on 11/01/2007, -29/+5Ron Paul!
- CaptainNoPants, on 11/01/2007, -3/+14Idiot!
- JlmAWP, on 11/01/2007, -2/+13Yeah man, pick your battles.
- mikesocal, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2i support him, but dugg you down. Not the place.
- keloster, on 11/01/2007, -1/+10awesome call out!
- OutAndAbout, on 11/01/2007, -2/+73It's about time someone in the Dem camp called him out on this. Many New Yorkers (like myself) are appalled at how often Rudy uses the so called "9/11 card", and more so the fact that a term like this now exists...
We got ashes on our clothes that day too Rudy, but we don't use them to get a job.- graeh, on 11/01/2007, -1/+1Wow "We got ashes on our clothes that day too Rudy, but we don't use them to get a job."
Wow...
- graeh, on 11/01/2007, -1/+1Wow "We got ashes on our clothes that day too Rudy, but we don't use them to get a job."
- Frei, on 11/01/2007, -2/+28I agree with the others saying it's about time. Rudy is a flake and is exploiting what happened on 9/11/2001 to try and earn points with people who don't already realize he's a douschecannon. The media fails, as usual, to point out how he connects everything to 9/11. It's disgusting.
- iamsamed, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9He'll get the nomination. That's what works in America - bumper sticker slogans and shallow rhetoric. It's times like these I really respect our Founding Fathers for making this country a republic and not a democracy. Just imagine if all those mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, morons out there who buy into this crap had a direct line into government. At least, there's buffer. I'm saying that our elected leaders are any better, but it could be worse.
Please spare me the "Bush wasn't elected!" It's old news.- ZenMojo, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Sometimes Democracy works for you, sometimes against you. Wow, sometimes a Republic does, too. Thumbs down. If we had a democracy, we'd be out of Iraq, this illegal immigration ***** wouldn't even be a debate it'd be a sidebar, and healthcare increases would have gotten passed.
- adidos, on 11/22/2007, -0/+1Dugg for using the term "mouth breathing"
- tehseanzor, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2dug for douschecannon .I REALLY hope he doesn't get nominated the last thing this country needs is someone like Giuliani
- ellisgl, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1I worked for a company that has the Chief of Police of NYC durring 911 on the board of directors. The only reason why was becuase of the 911 connection. Didn't help really if you ask me.
- iamsamed, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9He'll get the nomination. That's what works in America - bumper sticker slogans and shallow rhetoric. It's times like these I really respect our Founding Fathers for making this country a republic and not a democracy. Just imagine if all those mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, morons out there who buy into this crap had a direct line into government. At least, there's buffer. I'm saying that our elected leaders are any better, but it could be worse.
- plizard, on 11/01/2007, -3/+74penguins (noun) hate (verb) 9/11.
***** i'm running for president! - slashbot, on 11/01/2007, -45/+5Underqualiifed? What does that make Barack Obama? Or Hillary for that matter?
- BiPolarBear, on 11/01/2007, -6/+8Equally under qualified. (let the digging down begin.)
- MonsterChaOS, on 11/01/2007, -2/+19Good point... Someone who spent 8 years in the White House probably has no idea what goes on in there
[/sarcasm]- slashbot, on 11/01/2007, -15/+4Oh I guess that means interns or members of the WH press core are qualified to be president? *rolls eyes*
- bacon_skoda, on 11/01/2007, -1/+9more than Guilinani.
- leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -7/+0Hey bacon, seen any UFO's lately?
- mille716, on 11/01/2007, -0/+4leftykiller, you're not even good at insults for god's sake. Your UFO swipe at bacon_skoda is basically saying that he's a conspiracy nut. He never wasn't making a conspiracy accusation about Guilinani or 9/11. He just pointed out that Guiliani has no experience in the White House.
- slashbot, on 11/01/2007, -15/+4Oh I guess that means interns or members of the WH press core are qualified to be president? *rolls eyes*
- vortz83, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Qualified.
- eyefone, on 11/02/2007, -26/+2Ron Paul 2016
- BiPolarBear, on 11/01/2007, -3/+6Silly eyefone, that would be his third term then, which is clearly against the constitution. Or has George Bush redacted that part of it...
- ZenMojo, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1The two-term limit was an amendment because Franklin Delano Roosevelt was so ridiculously popular that Congress tried to make it so that no one else could hold office for so long. We can always amend it back.
- RJGONZO, on 11/02/2007, -1/+1Wait, wait, wait. You mean a Democrat went against over 150 years of tradition set in place by our Founding Fathers and ran for a 3rd and 4th term? *gasp* lawl
And for Christ's sake BiPolar, an amendment to the Constitution has to be voted on by the States and/or a combination of Congress to be approved or repealed, Presidents can't repeal amendments, never have, never will.- BiPolarBear, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1First of all, it was a joke. (I thought that was pretty clear...I need to find that link to the copy of the constitution with all the good bits redacted from it.) Second, I said nothing about repealing an amendment, I simply asked (jokingly) whether the W had redacted that section of the constitution. Lighten up.
- RJGONZO, on 11/02/2007, -1/+1Wait, wait, wait. You mean a Democrat went against over 150 years of tradition set in place by our Founding Fathers and ran for a 3rd and 4th term? *gasp* lawl
- ZenMojo, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1The two-term limit was an amendment because Franklin Delano Roosevelt was so ridiculously popular that Congress tried to make it so that no one else could hold office for so long. We can always amend it back.
- nontitle, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2Ron Paul eventually
- BiPolarBear, on 11/01/2007, -3/+6Silly eyefone, that would be his third term then, which is clearly against the constitution. Or has George Bush redacted that part of it...
- thevelvetsun, on 11/01/2007, -4/+13OMG. I love this guy!
- skews13, on 11/01/2007, -23/+4if this guy had the brains of an animal cracker.he'd jump in a bowl of soup,and end it all.
- BiPolarBear, on 11/01/2007, -2/+8You must be the Ghouliani supported we hear so much about on the television. I had a feeling you wouldn't be very bright.
- thefandango, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9who the hell puts animal crackers in soup?
- HonestAbe, on 11/02/2007, -5/+40Welcome to America, where our leadership is decided based on looks and catch phrases.
Though "a noun, a verb, and 9/11" is one of the better ones. Let's hope it sticks in people's heads. - ozymandias2012, on 11/01/2007, -10/+18If 9/11 wasn't such a horrible event this would be funny but the way these politicians throw it around like a punchline it's no wonder no one gives a ***** about all those dead people.
- yoleeo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6I think Biden was making that point exactly. He's not the one who built his campaign around it.
- leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -7/+1He's also not the one who almost died on 9/11.
Tell you what, let's see Biden and all the other cowards out there using 9/11 as a punchline mock other candidates who got involved in politics after living through tragedies. Maybe next Mr. 1% will try after Caroline McCarthy for running on gun-control after her husband and son were gunned down?
Yeah, that'll be the day.- pseudononymist, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2I almost died on 9/11 (shoes caught in an escalator, damn Crocs), does that mean I get to obsess and rage about it when begin my presidential campaign? No? So my near-death is somehow less significant than Guiliani's? But it was on 9/11! What about 9/11!
I also wanted to make fun of your gun control statement, but I can't figure out what it means.
- pseudononymist, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2I almost died on 9/11 (shoes caught in an escalator, damn Crocs), does that mean I get to obsess and rage about it when begin my presidential campaign? No? So my near-death is somehow less significant than Guiliani's? But it was on 9/11! What about 9/11!
- leftykiller, on 11/01/2007, -7/+1He's also not the one who almost died on 9/11.
- yoleeo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6I think Biden was making that point exactly. He's not the one who built his campaign around it.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/01/2007, -4/+17Also never ran a business, state, or city:
(Rudy's benchmark for being President)
Gerald Ford
Richard Nixon
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Bob Dole
Fred Thompson
John McCain- ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -6/+2bury
- Aroundtown27, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5Eisenhower did manage to lead an army though...
- RJGONZO, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1He just pwned you all with this statement.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Hey, I love Eisenhower - he's my favorite Republican president.
Take it up with Rudy; it's his dumbass statement. - ellisgl, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Repunlican and Democrat thinking changed 180 after Eisenhower IIRC.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Hey, I love Eisenhower - he's my favorite Republican president.
- Jorin, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0He also managed to predict the implications of the military industrial complex soon after the ending of the war.
- RJGONZO, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1He just pwned you all with this statement.
- reuscel, on 11/01/2007, -3/+23I ***** LOVE Joe Biden!! It's talk like this that makes him so appealing.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 11/02/2007, -2/+1If you love him why don't you marry him?
- poppieprong, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1But it's his habit of talking awesome on Sunday and rolling over on Monday that makes him so frustrating.
- fleischner, on 11/01/2007, -36/+12Dems: a noun, a verb, and "it's Bush's fault."
- slashbot, on 11/01/2007, -27/+7haha nice and true
- audioslavery, on 11/01/2007, -17/+4HAHA, oh yes totally! 100%
- woofers07, on 11/01/2007, -2/+17you must have failed sentence diagramming in middle school
- azprofessional, on 11/01/2007, -0/+112000 republicans: Noun, verb, and "Clinton = Hitler". Gee that all aligned with reality quite appropriately didn't it rightwing *****?
A blow job in office is far worse than bankrupting the country with war budgets isnt it chickenhawks? - Klak, on 11/01/2007, -0/+9thats a run-on
- Iconoclast25, on 11/01/2007, -4/+1More accurately: drool, foam, "Bush's fault !!!"
- dogdoodoo, on 11/01/2007, -1/+6Brilliant!
- KingBunny, on 11/02/2007, -1/+12*cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogy *cough*
"one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots."- dvdrtrgn, on 11/01/2007, -0/+4*hiccup* what are you on about? *hiccup*
- ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2*belch* Rudy Giuliani *belch*
- dvdrtrgn, on 11/01/2007, -0/+4*hiccup* what are you on about? *hiccup*
- morgino, on 11/06/2007, -8/+10Next to Ron Paul this guy gets it. It is funny because although their views are quite different the fact that they know what they are talking about and do not seem to pander to people makes them stand out for the rest. The fact that the rest of America can't see that ***** me off sometimes!
- ellisgl, on 11/06/2007, -1/+1Hmmm Ron Paul.. F him.
- ucbluman, on 11/01/2007, -3/+1i can't watch this feed (or youtube) from work, does any1 have a mirror?
- snotrokit, on 11/01/2007, -1/+5Best damned line of the whole night. Hey, I wonder why none of the other candidates bring up ol Hill's questionable felonious campaign money.
- RJGONZO, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2It couldn't possibly be because every Democrat and Republican somehow receive money from these groups as well.....could it.....
- Treoinmypocket, on 11/01/2007, -7/+6LOL - I hope Biden never loses an election. The sheer entertainment value this guy provides is so hard to come by. When he isn't insulting Barack Obama or Indians (from India) or plagiarizing British politicians speeches he's...well...he's getting READY to.
Well maybe not. He doesn't actually "get-ready" for stuff. More like he wings it. Still. You get my point. - URnotheonly1, on 11/01/2007, -9/+8Never have I seen such a display of incompetence and full out silliness as I saw last night during that debate. Ridiculous group of candidates.
- TheLoneHoot, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2not surprising having read your comments in the past (check his comment history)
- FtLib33334, on 11/05/2007, -1/+0Yep. Just another lost soul trying find his way . . . without the facts.
- TheLoneHoot, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2not surprising having read your comments in the past (check his comment history)
- ericdano, on 11/01/2007, -20/+6Biden is a Baffoon.
- Kinkistyle, on 11/01/2007, -4/+21Noun and verb are actually optional
- Firehed, on 11/06/2007, -2/+26Did we really need someone in a debate to tell us this? Is the mainstream world so stupid that they can't make the connection on their own, and realize that Rudy's platform consists entirely of being a ***** mayor when tragedy struck? I'm no New Yorker, but I very consistently hear that Giuliani was widely hated as the mayor of NYC prior to becoming "America's Mayor".
Honestly, it's concepts like that which give conspiracy theories some degree of credibility. Something bad happens, citizens lose rights while those in power gain more authority, and then people who campaign on the platform of the tragic event by means of scare tactics and the future administration needing even MORE power are frontrunners in the political race. Draw your own conclusions, but if he takes office, I can't say I'd be too surprised if there's another attack that ends up rewarding the government with even more power over its citizens.
Oh, and a hint: killing the entire Middle East really isn't the best approach for trying to prevent future terrorist attacks. Completely disregarding the fact that the plane thing has been done and won't happen again, ***** off hundreds of millions of people who believe that dying for a cause gets them into heaven by bombing them really isn't preventative medicine. If the next president accepts that we have cultural differences and attempts to repair the damage we've done over there, we might be able to ease up on the hatred towards our own culture and take away the reason for people to want to harm us.
If someone wants to blow themselves up in the middle of Times Square or commit some other act of terrorism, there's really not a whole lot we can do to stop someone sufficiently determined. It's a fact of life. Rather than screwing over the other 99.9999% of the population in order to stop the one nutcase, we'd be better off getting to the source of the problem. More people die of natural causes every hour (or perhaps it's every minute?) than died in the 9/11 attacks, and go look up the stats for every other of the zillion different types of preventable deaths. Everyone will die eventually, and some people are going to lose their lives earlier than they should. It's a risk you take by being born. It's incredibly unfortunate when it happens, but there are a TON of things out there that pose a significantly higher risk to human life than a terrorist attack. Fix drunk driving, cancer, AIDS, smoking, car crashes (not involving alcohol), and countless other things before making terrorism prevention your campaign platform - all of them pose significantly higher risks.
Mortality is a certainty; freedom isn't.- TypeC, on 11/03/2007, -1/+5"Is the mainstream world so stupid that they can't make the connection on their own"
Yes, unfortunately. How did Bush get elected again? Oh yes, lemmings. - ozymandias2012, on 11/01/2007, -4/+2Wow...we can't stop future terrorist attacks so the solution is stop trying to prevent future terrorist attacks.
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9When "trying to prevent future terrorist attacks" means surrendering freedoms, then that's exactly right. Simple, isn't it?
Stop rewarding people for playing off of your fear and cowardice. Liberty is worth dying for.- ZenMojo, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5He who gives away all of his liberty for some security ... is kind of a douche. He who gives away my liberty and my security for his own self-satisfaction is kind of an asshole.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 11/02/2007, -1/+1He who takes away all our freedom and security for money is an idiot.
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9When "trying to prevent future terrorist attacks" means surrendering freedoms, then that's exactly right. Simple, isn't it?
- ciaran036, on 11/02/2007, -7/+2Also, 9/11 was an inside job. Google "Zeigeist: The Movie", "Terrorstorm", "Loose Change", "9/11 Coincidences".
- ellisgl, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1The warning of 9-11 where there - our government took them with a grain of salt - thinking that 'America' is soooo bad ass and no one can hurt us. Reason for 9-11 was this: We are in the middle east with our army. Protecting 'our' oil and a by product of that is spreading our thoughts and beliefs which make people 'western' which becomes a virus. The hard core religion of the area that can brain wash people into thinking along the same line is easy. The middle east and their religion is like a habbit. Make a person not smoke at work when they smoke 2 packs a day - see what happens..
Fact is that we shouldn't have been there in the first place. While the 'USA' is seen as a world power - it should not abuse it, but us it responsibly (inland and abroad). Make rules that people can't drive SUV's unless there is a purpose, being a business. A real business. Punishments to people that lie should be harsh. Hell make it where they have to get a CDL and keep it up.
Demand for oil and the profit of oil drives the government.
Maybe there shoud be a forum on how to improve the alt energy stuff. We see colleges and companies do it, but not the people. What if a collaberation of people could come up with an 80% eff solar panel or a diiferent prop that could make 20% more on a wind turbin.. Band together..
- TypeC, on 11/03/2007, -1/+5"Is the mainstream world so stupid that they can't make the connection on their own"
- DerangedPenguin, on 11/01/2007, -14/+2Another example of intolerance and hate speech by a liberal progressive professional politician. Old Joe needs to get a real job for a little while, like to see him handle a welder or a table saw or a forge.
- Bamborzled, on 11/01/2007, -1/+4Rudy Giuliani? Is that you? I'm surprised you didn't say "9/11" once in your comment...
- makeitloud, on 11/01/2007, -1/+5DerangedPenguin, here's how what you wrote looks after editing out all the meaningless parts:
There. That's better. - hitmonval, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1***** man, how wack and irrelevant can you get?
- Schmapdi, on 11/01/2007, -2/+4This sort of stuff is why I love Joe Biden, if only he were more electable :(
* Interesting note - if you use the < and a 3 to make the heart sign Digg cuts off the remainder of your post.- KMye, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1The news networks essentially decide who's decide who's "electable," though some would be tougher efforts than others. That defined, I agree, it's a shame Biden's is not very electable.
- toastgodsupreme, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5My roomie and I watched a lot of this last night and we both laughed at that part. It was a decent debate, but jesus christ all the evasion on answering direct questions. It was just... I'm just awed how they get away with not answering the questions directed at them.
- Iconoclast25, on 11/02/2007, -2/+3C'mon, what do you expect? The hildabitch has spent the last forty years lying and evading. Seriously, she lies even when there is no need; there is not an honest cell in her entire being.
- RJGONZO, on 11/02/2007, -4/+3I agree, it was quite laughable watching these idiots "debate" the other night. At least Rudy answers a question or a direct retort to something he says. I remember listening to Biden on Meet the Depressed one morning, he's great with his talking points, but when he's challenged with a question off kilter even a slight bit from what he is currently discussing he is lost. Clinton was at least quick on his feet when getting elected, had some different ideas; Not that he put any of them to great use.
- Iconoclast25, on 11/02/2007, -2/+3C'mon, what do you expect? The hildabitch has spent the last forty years lying and evading. Seriously, she lies even when there is no need; there is not an honest cell in her entire being.
- gpaone, on 11/01/2007, -14/+3And we care what Biden says because.....?
- Iconoclast25, on 11/01/2007, -4/+2Because it is amusing to watch the retards cheer for this drone.
- Optic7, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2Best comic I've seen in a while (actually this strip is just great all around): http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2007/10/22/tomo/
- hittnrun, on 11/01/2007, -10/+4Isn't Biden the guy who always shows up to spout some nonsense before he slinks back into the tall grass??
He was the guy that got dressed down by Justice Thomas for his "high-tech lynching" all those years ago. I see he's still up to his same old tricks. And you diggbots are falling all over youselves. - SuperMoses, on 11/01/2007, -2/+4Giuliani has responded to Biden with the following statement -- "9/11 !"
- amneosis, on 11/01/2007, -8/+3I was the 666th digger, RUDY IS TEH ANTICHRIST!
- PixelMagic, on 11/01/2007, -1/+7NeoKHAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!
- hinchb, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1best post in this story.
- Jorin, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0That needs to be made into a ytmnd if it hasn't already.
- hstrijew, on 11/01/2007, -3/+15NO, that is false reporting: When he was visiting here in Florida, he actually managed an 8-word sentence PLUS 9/11.
Here is what he said.
"For me every day is an anniversary of 9/11."
Now, since it is very difficult to remember that many anniversaries, here is the Goliani PERPETUAL CALENDAR:
Months:
Jeptember, Feptember, Mareptember, Apetember, Meptember, Juneptember, Juptember, Auptember, September, Octember, Neptember and Deptember.
And here are the Weekdays:
Monday 9/11, Tuesday 9/11, Wednesday 9/11, Thursday 9/11, Friday 9/11, Saturday 9/11, Sunday 9/11.
That will make America safe and at the same time is easy so the Childrens is learning. http://www.strijewski.com - spyd3rweb, on 11/01/2007, -10/+3Bidens sentences consist of "A noun, a verb, 9/11 and Rudy Guiliani"
- Iconoclast25, on 11/02/2007, -3/+1That is beyond his intellectual grasp.
- grinchdec23, on 11/01/2007, -2/+3Rudy isn't sure WHAT he is.
- yoleeo, on 11/01/2007, -5/+0Biden did awesome in the little time he had last night at the debate. Even Republican Senator Chuck Hagel supports him! Don't believe me? Have a look for yourself! http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Even_Republicans ...
- Nickdotnet, on 11/01/2007, -3/+1Biden is the most qualified presidential candidate out there. He has tons of international democratic experience, he's been around long enough to know how to avoid the DC game, no one can find crap on him, he won't insult people's morals or motives, and he doesn't bite when reporters try to get away with crap! Digg him up...the country needs to see his leadership!
- conceptkid, on 11/01/2007, -2/+8Well done, Biden. Im sure Rudy threw a fit when he heard this
- makeyourslf421, on 11/01/2007, -1/+5The reason Rudy exists is because of 9/11, plain and simple.
- appetite, on 11/01/2007, -1/+7Biden is underrated. Everyone he speaks he demonstrates that he's head and shoulders above the rest in clarity and logic.
- Iconoclast25, on 11/01/2007, -4/+1The contents inside his skull are as false as the transplant on the top of it.
- TheN0ble, on 11/01/2007, -1/+3He's going to hell, period.
- ciaran036, on 11/01/2007, -4/+2That's because he's trying to fear us into allowing America to go to war with Iran! 9/11 was an inside job, and the perfect pretext for the US government to go to war with Afghanistan, and also used to help them get to war with Iraq and now Iran. A few thousand dying at 9/11 nowhere near justifies the killing of tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. ***** the governments. Don't let this government ***** us about. They've ***** us and the rest of the world enough already it's time we said NO and demanded the truth.
- Spoomeister, on 11/01/2007, -3/+0Almost makes up for his defending the do-nothing Democratic majority by whining "but... but we need 60 votes in the Senate to override a veto... wah, wah, we don't have enough power".
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