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Biden Repeats Threat: Invade Iran And You’ll Be Impeached

crooksandliars.com — That's the kind of talk we need more of in DC. This president has had his way for too long.

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  • Gabberwok, on 12/05/2007, -11/+76It is too bad that Biden is so low in the polls, because he really is one of the most experienced and intelligent Democratic candidates. He would make an excellent Vice President, and in the meantime he's doing the right thing holding the power of the executive branch in check.
    • mitchellk, on 12/05/2007, -28/+12Biden has a richly deserved reputation as one of the dumbest members in the Senate.
      • drgooch, on 01/25/2008, -8/+12I'm not sure if he's dumb, I think he's a prime example of why the senate and congress should have TERM LIMITS.
        • CosmoLoss, on 12/05/2007, -4/+14If you want to support George Bush, as your comments show that you do, that's fine. You're more than entitled to support whomever you want. But don't make ridiculous claims - In his 35 years as a senator Biden has gained more respect and gotten more done that you can ever hope to get done. I don't know if Chair of the Foreign Relations Committee or Chair of the Subcommittee of Crime and Drugs means anything to you, but it says volumes to me. As well, he's responsible for the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (Biden Crime Act) and the Violence Against Women Act. Dumb indeed...

          Having gotten that out of the way, I've been pushing for Biden from the start. Aside from his character and the fact that I'm doing my undergrad at his Alma Mater (UDel), Biden is an intelligent policy maker with actual plans for the future. His plan to federalize Iraq is the only legitimate plan anyone is proposing now that won't have catastrophic effects on both American Society and Iraqi infrastructure, and he has proposed plans to stabilize both Afghanistan and the Darfur region. He also has plans to make health care affordable and cut crime. He commands a ton of respect and deserves every bit he gets.

          This is just one more thing to make me like him.
          • Monk22, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2he also supports waterboarding according to his senate testimony.
          • Gabberwok, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Exactly. Although, the plan to break up Iraq has its own problems. Namely, the Sunni sections have no oil (so many of those Iraqis would be unhappy and probably attack the other sections), giving the Shiite sections autonomy basically results in a free give-away of oil and power to Iran, and as soon as the Kurdish part of Iraq has anything close to official autonomy, Turkey will destroy it (they want to invade Iraq and take out the Kurds already as it is). Not to mention all of the genocidal ethnic cleansing that will happen to the few remaining Sunnis in Shia neighborhoods and vice versa - although that won't be much of a problem anymore since almost all of them have been killed or left already. It makes a huge amount of sense to split Iraq into three parts, but it would also create almost as many problems as it would solve.
        • CosmoLoss, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2Apologies for the comment above being a response to poolfart - it was directed at mitchellk
        • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -0/+4That's what the founding fathers intended. They didn't want Politician to be a career.
          • MWeather, on 12/05/2007, -3/+4Then why didn't they implement any term limits?
          • bjornski, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2Ron Paul supports term limits.
        • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -1/+4Forgot to add that the United States of America we are living in today is a perversion of the one the founding fathers intended for us.
          • Gabberwok, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1You mean because black people and women can vote?
      • floorman56, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2Cool... A 2fer No more Iran and all the Dem's running for president tied up with impeachment while the GOP runs wild
    • right75, on 12/05/2007, -18/+9mitchellk has it right; "Plugs" Biden *is* the dumbest man in the Senate. There's a reason he's so low in the polls.

      No doubt "Plugs" Biden would've impeached Roosevelt for our involvement in WWII.
      • chicofaraby, on 12/05/2007, -3/+6Could you elucidate on your comparison of the invasion of Iraq with World War 2? How do you think the two are similar, for example?
        • MWeather, on 12/05/2007, -0/+4I think he's saying Iraq started the war. He'd be wrong, but that's the only way his statement makes any sense.
        • right75, on 12/05/2007, -3/+3My point is that Plugs would intimidate any President who is trying to defend his country, mainly for political gain. Notice that Ahmadinejad is the one making all the threats, yet Plugs is the person who is trashing President Bush, not Ahmadinejad. Plugs is more concerned with shutting down his own President than he is shutting down the (weak) leader of a terrorist state!

          As for your question about how the two wars are similar or dissimilar; please. I know my history, and my comment was made in the spirit of preventing history from repeating itself to our detriment. Evidently Plugs doesn't know his history or he'd stand behind our President.

          MWeather: my comment made plenty of sense. Maybe you just misunderstood.
      • JuCee, on 12/05/2007, -0/+0No, no, actually, I would really like to hear what you have to say about the Iraq war and WWII being similar. Please, regale us all.

        Edit: Replied to the wrong thread. *****' Digg.
      • bjornski, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1"plugs"? I've heard of stooping to come up with stupid names to attack people with, but that's just pathetic.

        Are you going to make fun of the type of shoe he wears next? Maybe the color of his car?
    • RTFMA, on 12/05/2007, -10/+5While he may make a good candidate, he is not, in fact, keeping anything in check. We are not going to invade Iran. Bush (or anyone else who might be President in the same circumstances) cannot say this publicly because it would undermine the pressure on Iran to keep its weapons program halted. Biden got a good response last time he said this, so now he's repeating it as loudly as he can. This is nothing more than political posturing.
      • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -7/+2Someone how isn't sleeping! Good job on doing some independant thinking and reasoning.
      • rholloway, on 12/05/2007, -2/+4Right. Spoken like a blowhard running for office when there's nothing at stake anyway. Where was this jerkoff 5 years ago? I'll tell you--in a spot where you had everything to lose politically. He's a coward.
    • rpetty, on 12/05/2007, -7/+3He is a blowhard and a camera hog. We could use a lot less of that in Wahsington
    • falkonv7l, on 12/05/2007, -6/+2The US is NOT going to invade Iran, Biden seems to have nothing better to think up.
    • Zaszamonde, on 12/05/2007, -1/+3Biden would be a better Secretary of State than Vice President. If he were Secretary, he'd have more power than as VP, and he could do something great with his experience and knowledge of foreign relations.
      • foreverdaed, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Would you want a president who is not ready to be Secretary of State?
    • MetalliTooL, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Yeah, except for the fact that he voted to go into Iraq and for the Patriot Act...
  • Herostratus, on 12/05/2007, -55/+4I say Invade. I wanna see Bush impeached. I could deal with us invading Iran if that is the end result.
    • hagenman, on 12/05/2007, -2/+22So you wouldn't mind seeing many more lives lost just to see an impeachment? I support the impeachment of the president, but your comment is just thoughtless.
      • Herostratus, on 12/05/2007, -5/+2Yeah but imagine how many innocent Iraqis would be saved by killing innocent Iranians instead.
        Oh BTW, my first comment was sarcastic. Forgot my /sarc tag
        • hmmmok, on 12/05/2007, -6/+3How many innocent would have been saved if their countrymen didn't slaughter them?
          • MWeather, on 12/05/2007, -0/+3The exact same number as would have been saved if we didn't invade.
    • laserfish, on 12/05/2007, -2/+3You're an idiot. He's gone in a year, and you want to send MORE Americans to their deaths just so you can say "ha?" Impeachment proceedings would take an incredibly long time, anyways. You'd end up just cutting off a few months off his term and stifling any progress Congress could have made on anything else (however minor it'd be).
      • moin1097, on 12/05/2007, -5/+3Funny thing about that. We don't send our soldiers to their deaths. We send them to send the terrorists to their deaths.
        Our didn't you watch Patton?
        • dnields, on 12/05/2007, -1/+4Yeah, last time I checked there wasn't a draft anymore. We don't "send" anyone to do anything. It is their job and they signed up for it. I don't agree with a senseless invasion of anywhere, but if a soldier is deployed then it is his duty to carry out his mission. If that results in death, it is unfortunate but still part of the job and should be anticipated as a possibility.
          • MWeather, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1Exactly. We shouldn't have any problem with needlessly sending our soldiers off to their deaths since they are volunteers.
  • NEWNHLISLAME, on 12/05/2007, -12/+29At least Biden is telling it the way it should be told. Direct and to the Point. Bush and his cronies are already war criminals and should be Impeached as soon as possible. If not for breaking international laws and agreements, the US would not be in this position globally. The constitution has been trampled and ignored.
    • drgooch, on 01/25/2008, -18/+6Got any proof?
    • PaleGhost, on 12/05/2007, -23/+3and your a ***** moron. What "war crimes" have they been accussed of or better yet convicted of????? NAME ONE. You can't you liberal piece of garbage. You don't like this country, go live someplace else, like Iran or Iraq and see how really bad life can be, asswipe.
      • delrin500, on 12/05/2007, -1/+6Well the war crime would be torching prisoners of war. But if you had any idea of what was going on around you instead of just spouting profanity you would understand that the democratic leadership agree with it or not had decided not to impeach Bush or do anything to hold him accountable b/c they think it would be bad to do in an election year, so they are just waiting for the madness to end and clean up the mess.

        There is proof of water boarding and it is against the law contrary to the attorney generals reluctance to say so. There is a precedent showing the legal status of water boarding, at the end of WWII we charged and convicted a Japanese officer for water boarding one of our troops that had been captured.
        • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -1/+3We torched prisoners?! DAMN!
        • Monk22, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2biden doesnt seem to agree with you on the waterboarding.
      • walkingdogs, on 12/05/2007, -3/+6I say those that are now in the minority leave this country and go create your own neocon hell hole somewhere else. this is a democracy and the majority get to say what happens and a majority of the populace say that they are not happy with our direction. So guess what? you don't get what you want any more. You had your chance and screwed the pooch repeatedly so now you get to suffer like the sane among us have for the last 7 years.
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  • georgemason01, on 12/05/2007, -17/+54Biden is a coward. What good is it to wait until after the invasion of Iran has already started to start impeachment proceedings? Bush has already proven he is a domestic enemy of the Republic and needs to be impeached NOW.
    • Flamancot, on 12/05/2007, -12/+6Buried for saying "domestic enemy of the Republic." Bush sucks serious *****, but people who say "domestic enemy of the Republic" suck more.
    • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -11/+3Can you give us real proof? From where I sit Bush and company know a bit more than you armchair world leaders. Try to remember the mainstream media and bloggers aren't the best source of info when you are trying to make military and political decisions.
      • source1984, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2Fine. THERE ARE EX-CIA AGENTS, EX-GOVERNMENT LEADERS, EX-CABINET MEMBERS, RETIRED MILITARY LEADERS who would say otherwise. Look up the man who headed the Bin Laden unit of the CIA before 9/11. He'll tell you the sad truth about American foreign policy in the mid-east. There is no "ISLAMO-FASCIST" threat against America. Its there because we want it to be. You get your news from racist Islamophobes and you'll continue to cowardly hide behind militaristic neocons. The truth is that there CAN BE PEACE between the two sides. I'm a Muslim who lives in America, knows about the Middle East, has been there, has been to Pakistan and I can tell you for a fact that this administration and its members have a clear, cut Neocon agenda which in the end boils down to their pathetic ideological views and big bucks (special interests). The proof is there. Find it. Some of the best info on u.s. foreign policy is in the HISTORY BOOKS and is said by ex. officials -- NOT RIGHTIST IDEOLOGUES.
    • jwietelmann, on 12/05/2007, -2/+9So if you move to impeach Bush now, what leverage do you have to keep him out of Iran? That "coward" is a lot smarter than you.
      • colincornaby, on 12/05/2007, -2/+8Exactly, impeach Bush and he'll invade Iran. Impeaching a President doesn't take him out of power. Impeaching a President simply opens up an examination for if he needs to be removed from power. Remember, Clinton was impeached yet he was never kicked out of office.
      • georgemason01, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2The question is whether or not you want to take the risk that he won't invade Iran as long as impeachment charges aren't brought up against him. Considering his past behavior I do not believe that risk is worth taking. If he invaded Iran right when impeachment proceedings were brought against him, the American people and their representatives then have every excuse to yank him out of office.
  • NickSpinner, on 12/05/2007, -15/+26WE SHOULD IMPEACH IF WE EVEN THINK ITS A SMALL CHANCE THAT HED INVADE IRAN! AARRRGH!
    • DrvThruPnk, on 12/05/2007, -4/+7Howard Dean? is that you?
    • Kythas, on 12/05/2007, -0/+5So, according to your logic, we should also arrest people if we think there's a small chance they may commit a crime. Who gets to make this determination?

      Do you see where this is going? Do you really want to head down that path?
      • kreneskyp, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1im pretty sure he was sarcastically imitating bushes preemptive strike policy
    • jamdogg, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2For once a justified use of caps.
  • davidkeithjones, on 12/05/2007, -5/+8Less than a year to go...
    • raoulduke87, on 12/05/2007, -1/+6yeah, well let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. alot of bad things can happen in a year.
      • TheRealAlzabo, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2Yeah well somebody should start sucking MY dick on general principles right now!

        But truly, a year is a long time in the backseat of a car going 130mph the wrong way on a freeway with the lights off at midnight.

        Here's a view about that - http://www.stillmusic.com/wordpress/?p=18
    • kreneskyp, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2more like 13 months.. a long 13 months
  • khail250, on 12/05/2007, -12/+8lets not forget Iran is developing nuclear weapons!!! they are a threat to Israel by "whipping them off the map", and hate our freedom! oops, none of that is true! they do hate us cause Bush (murderer) keeps on lieing and provoking an innocent country
    • hmmmok, on 12/05/2007, -10/+4They had a nuclear program, and when it's resumed you can spew more nonsense about how it's their "right".
    • laserfish, on 12/05/2007, -11/+6Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, did indeed call for Israel to be wiped off the map. He denied the reality of the Holocaust. He said, in a speech, that anyone who recognizes Israel's right to exist would be "eternally disgraced and will burn in the fury of the Islamic nations.

      Iranians may be innocent. Iran, however, is far from innocent.

      And you spelled lying wrong.
      • chicofaraby, on 12/05/2007, -3/+8"Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, did indeed call for Israel to be wiped off the map."

        According to the people who assured us that Iraq was brimming with WMD.
        • badqat, on 12/05/2007, -6/+4No, dumbass...straight from his own mouth...

          Here's a hint...read. Don't take all your "news" from MSNBC and raw sewage...
        • adooga, on 12/05/2007, -3/+6Uh, badgat, that was mistranslated. Look it up.
          (and yeah, it WAS from the same people who told you everything you think you know about Iraq).
        • chicofaraby, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1"straight from his own mouth"

          You speak Farsi?
          • Monk22, on 12/05/2007, -3/+1no but i can read english.

            "I hereby declare that this sinister regime (Israel) is the banner of Satan. It is the banner of the great Satan. All it does is to implement the orders of the criminal America and England.

            They think that the peoples are the same as they were 100 years ago. They are not aware that things have changed in the world. Today, all the peoples have awoken. The Iranian people is the standard-bearer of this awakening for all the peoples.

            As we can see, from the southernmost point in South America to the eastern most point in Asia, all the peoples are shouting a single cry. With placards in their hands and clenched fists, they shout:

            DEATH TO ISRAEL! DEATH TO ISRAEL! DEATH TO ISRAEL!"

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
          • stilesja, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Look dude, If Israel can stand on its own that is fine but to have america proping it up pumping in billions of dollars because they claim "God gave them that land" is absurd. They were given the land after WWII because of the Holocaust at the expense of the people already living there. Sure they might have lived there first and were driven out. Big deal. Let me tell you something if China Decided the Native American Indians should have the U.S.A. because they were here first and China gave them nukes and billions of dollars to maintain an Indian state in the USA, we'd all be *****. Thats how the palestinians feel about Israel. It all boils down to god didn't give you anything. If you can maintain your state and get along with the neighbors then Israel certainly has the right to exist, but there is no built in right from god. God doesn't give land.
    • mondojml, on 12/05/2007, -2/+5Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was actually misquoted. Here is the quote translated directly into english;
      "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"
      Slightly different meaning than what came out in the media.
      • Monk22, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1and what do you suppose o wise one, what they meant by that? can you possibly be that dense as to read that sentence and not see the veiled threat there?
  • saphyrre, on 12/05/2007, -22/+10I'm sick of crooksandliars.com..who the heck pushed that crappy website on digg every single day? that's the best proof that "digg brigades" are doing they job.
    • bowens44, on 12/05/2007, -7/+11Hey, here's an idiea!! If you don't like posts from crooksandliars, don't read them!!

    • drgooch, on 01/25/2008, -16/+6The lefty lune's have to have something to rant about...
    • walkingdogs, on 12/05/2007, -6/+10You anti crooksandliars righties are ***** retarded. These reports are not just made up stories. they are actual news stories that are being localized into on place (kind of like digg but not user submitted). Sure they cover mainly left leaning stories, but hell, the whole country is left leaning right now because the right ***** everything up. If everything had happened as told repeatedly to us by our so called leader, sites like this would have never existed or they would be covering the mishaps of the left. Also come to the conclusion that your kind are the vast minority nowadays and clinging on to the same talking points and lies will NEVER make them true. You are the people who put our country in its current predicaments so learn to live with the ridicule it deserves.
      • jamdogg, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1Left and right == divide and rule. The US public could be so strong and glorious if they UNITED like us Brits /sc
  • drgooch, on 01/25/2008, -13/+13Biden's full of hot air. Sure, they could start impeachment proceedings, but nothing would ever happen. He needs 2/3 of the members of congress. Good luck Biden and keep smiling for that camera!
    • cissystrut, on 12/05/2007, -6/+7So it's Biden's fault that people elect morons?
      • drgooch, on 01/25/2008, -10/+4No. But Biden's comments are pointless, useless and irrelevant. How about him focusing on bigger issues, like healthcare, SS, etc., instead of shooting off his mouth from time to time.
        • cissystrut, on 12/05/2007, -2/+7But here he's trying to take rational and *constitutional* steps to do the right thing... I just don't see where you can point fault at that.
  • WSPanic201, on 12/05/2007, -5/+6I also wish Biden was higher in the polls. In my opinion, he would make the better president with a Clinton/Edwards/Obama Vice President. No sense in having someone with more experience be the Vice President.
    • ChuckInReno, on 12/05/2007, -2/+4I agree with you. Between Bush and Cheney, which one has more experience? Speaking empirically, it seems that experience doesn't help much in the VP's office.
    • aliashandle, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2if this administration was any indication I could have sworn it was the VP was in charge so in that sense Biden would be perfect as VP.
  • deleo, on 12/05/2007, -12/+11In any normal time in our country's history when people had the attention span to actually digest what actually happened here, impeachment would certainly be on the table. The White House (not the media) is saying that the Director of Intelligence went into the Oval Office in August to tell Bush that they had new intelligence on Iran's nuclear program that they were working to verify. The White House now says that Bush DID NOT ASK what that intelligence was! He was waiting for it to be verified. This can only lead to two conclusions:
    1. Bush is an idiot who does not bother to ask questions about important matters of national intelligence when they are presented to him. or...
    2. He did ask and was told the Iran did not have a nuclear weapons program, but he still went full speed ahead over the past few months talking it up as if they did, and used it as a basis for potential military action, meaning HE COMPLETELY LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
    Take your pick, either one in my opinion should be the basis for his removal from office. Bill O'reilly resorted on his show yesterday to saying that anyone who was speaking out against Bush on this is anti-American and started talking about Jane Fonda and Vietnam. The far right has no where to turn on this, they are completely boxed in on this one. Please America turn off your reality game shows and pay attention to this one! It's a big deal for our President to lie to us on important matters of national security.
    • Mjolniir, on 12/05/2007, -2/+0Unfortunately, lying to us is not an impeachable offense.
      • TheRealAlzabo, on 12/05/2007, -1/+1It matters what you lie about too.
        Blowjobs and war, how's that balance for you, since we assume that this is another poorly veiled cry of "But Clinton but but but...."
    • GuitaristTom, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1I dont think we should impeach bush, but while what he's doing is controversial, its a lot worse than getting a blowjob... so if clinton went for that, then seriously, in all fairness bush should be out
      • Monk22, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1clinton was impeached for lying under oath you moron.
  • Groovemaster, on 12/05/2007, -6/+12I bet Bush is quaking in his shoes... LOL

    After everything he's done to destroy America without already being removed from office (either by impeachment or by force) it's pretty safe to say he's untouchable.
    • Chordonblue, on 12/05/2007, -1/+5But... But... But... He's a stupid monkey, isn't he? Yeah... So stupid that he managed to kick Dem ass through two elections even WITH low polls. Sorry Dems, you'd better not put all your chickens in one basket. The next election is up for grabs. Who knows? Maybe it won't be another Bush/Clinton president.
  • PaleGhost, on 12/05/2007, -37/+6all you liberal pieces of ***** should go live in Iran, since you hate the USA so much and love iran. You can die with all the rest of the stinking terrorists.
    • Groovemaster, on 12/05/2007, -4/+12No wait... I'd sound snappier if you said this:

      "You can die like my ability to question government propaganda and think for myself!"
      • bladefist, on 12/05/2007, -14/+4LOL you think for yourself? Just like the media tells you to do. puppet. If you thought for yourself you would have questioned what is it worth to insure iran does not get nuclear weapons
        • technoredneck, on 12/05/2007, -0/+3If you thought for yourself and wanted war against those with nuclear weapons, you'd be all over Israel and Pakistan rather than Iran. Other countries shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons just because they're butt buddies with the US. Please, for your own sake, get your head out of your ass.
      • hmmmok, on 12/05/2007, -12/+3If you've really thought it through, and you're defending Iran, I feel sorry for you.
    • tehnico, on 12/05/2007, -2/+5All I heard was, "I show my hatred of Christ with my words and actions."
    • bovox, on 12/05/2007, -1/+7PaleGhost, why do you think so less of American lives? Do you hate Americans so much that you're willing to throw away their lives over a few barrels of oil? I don't think I want you in my country PaleGhost. You might as well be a terrorist since you don't think American lives are worth much.
      • bladefist, on 12/05/2007, -7/+4Oil? lol? what? NUCLEAR WEAPONS. wow your shallow. The second you heard oil 5 years ago, you never needed to hear anything else.
        • TheUngod, on 12/05/2007, -1/+6You mean the ones that it has been proven don't exist? Just like many of your friends I imagine.
          • Monk22, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1you should read this article. that entire report is based on ONE GUY who cant be verified.

            "Its most dramatic conclusion — that Iran shut down its nuclear weapons program in 2003 in response to international pressure — is based on a single, unvetted source who provided information to a foreign intelligence service and has not been interviewed directly by the United States. "

            http://newsmax.com/timmerman/iran_nukes/2007/12/04 ...
          • bjornski, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1@monk22

            And it's on Newsmax.

            The Raw Story of the right.
        • neogoblin, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Nuclear weapons like in Iraq, right?
    • takamalak, on 12/05/2007, -2/+3I'm embarrassed that you consider yourself an American.
  • JMellissa, on 12/05/2007, -6/+4Not bad, but I say they're fit to be impeached ALREADY!!!!
  • atomic811, on 12/05/2007, -6/+4Why wait do it now....there all a bunch of idiots.
  • bladefist, on 12/05/2007, -15/+5I like stories like these, its an easy way to group all the idiots together. *****. Im here too. Ya Bush is an idiot, I mean come on, Iran should be allowed nuclear weapons. DUH I'm sure they wont use them on us. lol. idiots. You'd rather hate bush then save your own ass.
    • Acewrap, on 12/05/2007, -2/+8Your stupidity knows no bounds. How's it feel having so much authoritarian ***** down your throat the head's got acid burns?
      • bladefist, on 12/05/2007, -9/+2delightful. How does it feel to know bush was re-elected because of his foreign policy?
        • notoneofus, on 12/05/2007, -0/+6"How does it feel to know bush was re-elected because of his foreign policy?"

          Thoroughly depressing.
        • takamalak, on 12/05/2007, -2/+4At least he's not admitting to be a *****.
          • bladefist, on 12/05/2007, -4/+3No, but I am above him and do not feel the need to step down to that level.
    • TheUngod, on 12/05/2007, -0/+4Whether we kill Iranians or they kill us, a life is a life. You know, like all those stem cells you probably want to save, and the baby's you're most likely against aborting. We have no right, nor any reason to attack Iran just because of the possibility they might (even though it was disproven) have nuclear weapons.
  • sponeil, on 12/05/2007, -3/+4I agree with NickSpinner. This is stupid. It's like telling a kid after he does something he knows he's not supposed to do several times, "You're going to get in trouble if you do that again." Of course he's going to do it again because he already knows you're likely to give him "one last chance" (again and again). If he knew he wasn't supposed to do it, and you catch him doing it, you give punishments, not warnings.
  • mstoneburner, on 12/05/2007, -3/+21The Senate can't impeach the POTUS, SENATOR, that priveledge belongs to the House of Representatives.
    • moin1097, on 12/05/2007, -4/+7HEY! Don't do that. You'll ruin the mood.
      • freff, on 12/05/2007, -3/+2Seeing as all that's required from the House is a simple majority to get the ball rolling, if Bush DID happen to ignore all contrary evidence and advice and invade Iran unilaterally, I think the Democrats can get the articles of impeachment through the House.

        What happens after that is anyone's guess. My guess is that Bush is too politically crippled at this point to force us to find out.
        • mstoneburner, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2He didn't invade Iraq unilaterally. What makes people think he'd invade Iran unilaterally?
          • freff, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Like I said, at this point, I don't think he has the political capitol to invade at all. Then again, that's a realistic assessment, and if Bush has proven anything, he doesn't necessarily live in a reality based world. Regardless, barring Israel (and that's only counting some of their more extreme hardliners), I can't imagine any other country that would be willing to follow George W into Iran.
    • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -1/+1Stop with the water throwing damn it!
    • Rodman930, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2I'm pretty sure he already knows that because, um, HE JUST ***** SAID IT!
  • spyd3rweb, on 12/05/2007, -3/+5What would be different after he invades Iran? Don't all the impeachable offenses exist already?
    • moin1097, on 12/05/2007, -4/+2They must not. Otherwise congress would have done something by now.
      Maybe if they went after Cheney first?
    • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1It's an pathetic attempt to gain points in the race he's in. The lemmings here on Digg are unable to comprehend this.
  • TheKidd, on 12/05/2007, -5/+17As much as I hate Bush, I don't think he's going to invade Iran. I'm pretty sure Biden knows this, but it's a great way to get good sound bites into the headlines and on the television.
    • selfdisplaced, on 12/05/2007, -1/+6ding ding ding
    • pintomp3, on 12/05/2007, -4/+2who would have thought we would invade iraq?
      • mstoneburner, on 12/05/2007, -4/+5I was pretty convinced we would invade Iraq after they refused to comply with UN resolution1441.
      • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -2/+2And the placing or warships off their coast was another red flag. So was the construction of a new base near their border.
    • krnldmp, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1The whole Iran huff is a bunch of hot air to distract you from the offenses already committed.
      • bjornski, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Wag that dog.

        "LA!! LA! LA!! I can't hear you! I'm War-Presidenting!"
    • Chordonblue, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1THIS.
  • Flamancot, on 12/05/2007, -7/+1i'm surprised. i don't know anything about Biden really - and i'll admit i wrote him off after that snl halloween party *****. It doesn't matter though - voting for obama because i think he'd look the best in a president costume.
  • greendalek, on 12/05/2007, -3/+3This would be wonderful if there was even the SLIGHTEST chance he and his fellow Defeatocrats would follow through on this "threat."
  • selfdisplaced, on 12/05/2007, -10/+10If Iran gets nuclear weapons, the world is *****.

    Bush is right.
    • bladefist, on 12/05/2007, -9/+6It is worth it to me that Bush looks into this, to ensure they do NOT get nuclear weapons. I'm glad Bush doesn't listen to polls, and these quacks, err, liberals, because we *could* all be killed if he did. Best president in the world? No. Does he protect us? Yes. And these quacks just attack him. Maybe if a missle was on its way to our homeland, they ... nevermind. They'd rather die then admit Bush could have been right.
      • krische, on 12/05/2007, -1/+5I think people overplay the whole nuclear war scenario. Look at the facts, to this date, the US is the only country to have used nuclear weapons. Russia had nuclear weapons equivalent to ours for years and years and could have attacked us whenever they want. But they didn't, why? Because people realize that nuclear war just isn't practical. Doesn't take long till both sides are wiped off the map.
        • Kythas, on 12/05/2007, -2/+2The Soviet Union didn't attack us because they knew our response would ensure their destruction. It was called MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. The Soviets were our enemies but were neither stupid nor insane.

          However, Ahmadinijad is of the opinion that dying for Allah will gain him 72 virgins in Paradise. He would have no compunction about using nuclear weapons if he had them because he is not afraid to sacrifice himself or his people if it meant also killing the enemies of Islam. In this case, we cannot rely on the concept of MAD to deter his hand.

          For those of you who know nothing about Islam other than that it's a "religion of peace", you should read Islam 101 at http://jihadwatch.org/islam101/

          From jihadwatch.org's front page:

          “Here’s what we know,” President George W. Bush began in response to a question about the latest National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran. “We know that they’re still trying to learn how to enrich uranium. We know that enriching uranium is an important step in a country who wants to develop a weapon. We know they had a program. We know the program is halted.”

          If the intelligence is right this time, then this last piece of information is good news.

          But there’s more to the story, as National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley explained a day earlier. “The intelligence community says they do not know whether Iran currently intends to develop nuclear weapons,” he cautioned, adding, “The risk of Iran acquiring a nuclear weapons remains a very serious problem.” He then cited the NIE to underscore his point: “Iranian entities are continuing to develop a range of technical capabilities that could be applied to producing nuclear weapons if a decision is made to do so.”

          In other words, although the clandestine program was apparently halted in 2003, none of America’s 16 intelligence agencies can determine if it’s dead or dormant. “Halted” means paused, and paused means the story is far from over.
          • amoro99, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2When you can make the claim that any Muslim would gladly nuke the world to go to heaven, you are in fact much more of an advocate of WWIII than anything I ever read Ahmedenijad said.
        • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -3/+2The USSR wasn't a theocracy. They weren't lead by fanatical Islamists who feel their god has mandated the deaths of all infidels. Plus the whole convert or die thing. Let's also not forget that the USSR had a healthy fear of death. In case you have missed class, radical Islamists don't fear death which negates the whole concept of MAD.
        • norman619, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1I'm guessing you also believe they can be convinced their God is wrong right?
    • TheUngod, on 12/05/2007, -3/+4So bladefist, you offering to be drafted if he decides to invade? I'm sure an upstanding citizen like you wouldn't mind dying for this POS president.
      • selfdisplaced, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1again, this whole idea of a draft is yet another thing the media has imprimented in your soft minds.
    • HamHead, on 12/05/2007, -0/+4If Iran had a nuclear weapon, and launched it at ANYONE the rest of the world would turn Iran into a giant cat box so I think in reality it would be a very short victory and I don't think they are that stupid.
    • bowens44, on 12/05/2007, -1/+4Nonsense. Deterrence works. It's ridiculous to think that any nation would attack the US . It's not going to happen.

      Bush is a ***** idiot.
    • Zomgondo, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2Uh, what part of "they shut down their nuclear program in 2003" is unclear?
    • amoro99, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2The world became ***** once the U.S. got them.
  • ytsejam29, on 12/05/2007, -9/+5If Bush is wacko enough to invade Iran, he's wacko enough to impose martial law and assume power indefinitely. Impeachment needs to be done while it's still possible.
  • xienze, on 12/05/2007, -6/+4Talk about an empty threat. First of all it's doubtful that Bush has any intentions of invading Iran within the next twelve months (remember, that's all he has left!). First of all, didn't the administration just announce that they don't think Iran has any real nuclear capability? Second, it still requires Congress to approve going to war, so Biden is going to impeach Bush over something that Congress approved? And wouldn't Congress be wary of approving any kind of substantial military action unless there was extremely clear evidence (no more "we were taking the administration's word on it")?

    Finally, impeachment proceedings take a long time. Bush would be out of office by the time they wrapped up, and that's assuming the proceedings started um, today.

    Biden is just trolling for attention. If he meant it he would've said this years ago and taken action.
  • pintomp3, on 12/05/2007, -5/+4why wait? impeach now.
  • gweller, on 12/05/2007, -9/+1Here we have the Hitler of our time, and people are threatening impeachment if we go to war. I wonder how many idiots did the same thing during WW2.
    • thebellmaster1x, on 12/05/2007, -2/+2Did you seriously just compare an invasion of Iran to World War ***** Two?
      The "Hitler of our time"? Yeah, let me know when he sends 12 million people to death camps and then takes over half of Europe.
      • gweller, on 12/05/2007, -2/+0No I didn't compare the invasion of Iran to WW2 you *****. Learn to read before you open your idiotic mouth.
      • thebellmaster1x, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Is this some new usage of "WW2" that I was not previously aware of?
    • xornor, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2oh come on i don't like bush either but comparing him to hitler... that's a little bit of a stretch...
    • Fullvinyl, on 12/05/2007, -0/+4Ugh...Godwin's Law strikes again. How many illegal detention camps has Ahmadinejad set up in Iran? How many countries has Iran invaded? How many times has the world rolled over and essentially given him territory, a la the Sudetenland? Absolutely ***** NONE.

      And if you remember correctly, we entered WWII after a JAPANESE attack; Nazi Germany never touched us.

      Please shut the ***** up with this chickenhawk neocon "defining conflict of our time" rhetoric. If it's that drastic, then march your monkey ass down to a recruitment office and join the armed force of your choice (and no, the Coast Guard doesn't count; last I've heard, we don't have any cutters in the Persian Gulf). Of course, having done that, I'm sure you would claim the excuse of medical exemption, as ***** chickenhawks do.

      If you're not ready to fight a war, then don't ***** bark for one.
      • Mu99ins, on 12/05/2007, -1/+0Ask how many homosexuals has Ahmadinejad killed. How many children did he have march through mine fields during the Iran/Iraq war. The U.S. declared war on Germany only after Germany declared war on the U.S.. Which is a damn shame because the pacifists, with their blind eye to the carnage going on in Europe and Asia, are to take the blame for the U.S. not entering the war sooner.
        Had the U.S. not stayed out so long, millions of people would've been saved. In a little over a year,
        Bush will be out of office and the leftists will be calling the next Republican President a Hitler.
    • OrangeTide, on 12/05/2007, -0/+2Many idiots were protesting getting involved in "europe's affairs". The Japanese did Western Europe a tremendous favor by motivating the American people to get involved. (of course shutting down oil and metal exports to Japan is what probably provoked them in the first place)
  • avengingturnip, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1Do we finally have our Cicero or is he just hoping to help his run for the Democratic nomination?
  • WSPanic201, on 12/05/2007, -1/+11If you guys want a good laugh, check out PaleGhost's profile and read all of his comments. This guy hasn't gotten laid in years.
    • davdev, on 12/05/2007, -0/+5Yes, he's very eloquent, and he does a great job of making sure to say either "*****" or "*****" in every post. Everyone knows profanity is a sign of brilliance, this guy is like Einstein
  • whaleyboy69, on 12/05/2007, -4/+7Too bad this is just posturing BS from this politician.

    If Bush was going to be impeached it would have happened. He has done nothing illegal or at least nothing that these fools are confident enough of proving. Until Bush actually does something illegal as opposed to something that the opposing party does not like then he is there and we can continue to enjoy (or whatever) another year or so of the Bush administration.
  • friend18, on 12/05/2007, -5/+5I'd rather hear "You are being impeached."
    • amigabill, on 12/05/2007, -0/+0How about "You have been impeached!" ??
  • OrangeTide, on 12/05/2007, -6/+3I don't think you can impeach someone for being incompetent.
    • krnldmp, on 12/05/2007, -4/+2Wrong. The president can be impeached for talking funny so long as the votes are there.
      • Wargalas, on 12/05/2007, -1/+3Wrong. look up "high crimes and misdemeanors"
    • moin1097, on 12/05/2007, -0/+3If that was the case we wouldn't have the congress we have now.
    • thebellmaster1x, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2No, you can't, so it's a good thing he invaded a country under false pretenses and stripped us of our civil rights. Sounds like "high crimes and misdemeanors" and treason to me.
  • Veretax, on 12/05/2007, -2/+2Right. he still thinks Bush is going to invade Iran. Karl Rove's last list of things to do is still working on the democrats MUAHAHA! /sarcasm
  • prophet5, on 12/05/2007, -2/+6Someone should remind Biden that he's in the Senate, which does not possess the power to bring Articles of Impeachment forward. Someone running for President should know at least this much about the Constitution before running....
  • mikedoth, on 12/05/2007, -3/+1Democracy at it's finest.
  • pistboy, on 12/05/2007, -5/+1If we are at war, Bush stays in office and the government (currently GOP) can cancel all future elections until which war is no longer a threat. It has always been a law and makes complete sense. It has been re-inforced by Bush's government and is being abused. However, going to war to stay in office doesn't seem legal or moral. By simply following the law, impeachment is possible as it is abuse of power, which isn't constitutional. Here is the government link to the document giving our President dictator powers in time of war. It was posted this past May and wasn't talked about much on the TV. We need to learn the laws and facts from other places than news stations. They are biased by sponsors and government controlled!!!

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20 ...

    Support American freedom!!
    • OrangeTide, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1I hope you support the 2nd amendment. Otherwise your arguments are just a lot of hot air.
    • Kythas, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1I see nothing in this document that gives the President any dictatorial powers or the ability to cancel future elections. It simply calls for the maintenance and continuity of the government in a time of emergency.

      In fact, the following line specifically debunks what you say in your post:

      (a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;

      Note it says "under the Constitution". This means all Constitutional safeguard, laws, and restraints on power are still in effect. The President's term of office is specifically defined in the Constitution, and the 22nd Amendment limits the term of office of the President:

      "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term."
  • Wargalas, on 12/05/2007, -3/+15Yeah yeah, Democrats threaten to impeach if "x" happens. Let's face it, Democrats have rightfully earned their reputation as being spineless and weak.

    Remember Nancy Pelosi who said she was going to go with the "5 day work week" for Congress? The upcoming Congressional calendar for the next year has just 3 WEEKS out of the entire year that are 5 day work weeks.

    Remember getting rid of the "culture of corruption"? Well Democrats did nothing about William Jefferson's corruption charges, and stuck him in a position where he had access to classified information.

    Remember them promising to "work with Republicans in Congress"? Yeah, we see how far that got.

    Face it, Democrats talk the talk, but they are far from walking the walk.
    • a10webb, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2(Simple, just replace democrats with politicians and you get the same effect)

      Yeah yeah, politicians threaten to impeach if "x" happens. Let's face it, politicians have rightfully earned their reputation as being spineless and weak.

      Remember Nancy Pelosi who said she was going to go with the "5 day work week" for Congress? The upcoming Congressional calendar for the next year has just 3 WEEKS out of the entire year that are 5 day work weeks.

      Remember getting rid of the "culture of corruption"? Well politicians did nothing about Tom Delay's corruption charges, and stuck him in a position where he had access to classified information.

      Remember them promising to "work with Republicans in Congress"? Yeah, we see how far that got.

      Face it, politicians talk the talk, but they are far from walking the walk.
  • MercedRocks, on 12/05/2007, -1/+3Cool, this means Cheney will be the Pres!...oh wait....*****.
  • nova9, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1BIN LADEN?
    • cloudyprison, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1You are almost correct....except they still can't find the N LA from his name....so they've shortened what they have found 'BI_ _DEN' down to Biden....
  • greaseddeafguy, on 12/05/2007, -5/+4Biden is a joke. We just got a report yesterday that says Iran stopped its nuke program 4 years ago - which in effect takes away Bush's only possible reason for war, but Biden is still out there acting like an ass calling for impeachment for a possible future action that is not even possible anymore. /rant

    in summary - Joe Biden is a douche bag attention whore
    • gernblansted, on 12/05/2007, -0/+1Do you really believe an intelligence report is going to get in the way of Bush/Cheney's war plans? Biden can't stop it, but at this point the WH doesn't even listen to Congressional Republicans anymore - they are 'in the way' like everyone else in the country now.
  • daxsymbiont, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1Obama, Biden, what the fu is going on with Bin Laden references.
  • fonebone2, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1Pity for Bush he doesn't have top talent like Rumsfeld and Powell going to bat for him anymore. Even Rove is out of the picture now. Instead he's stuck with back benchers like Stephen Hadley and John Bolton.

    Sy Hersch is now claiming that Negroponte was replaced as DNI because of he refused to bow to pressure from Cheney to revise the NIE on Iran. You know things are pretty close to hopeless when John Negroponte won't carry your water anymore. Looks like Drudge and Hannity are still on board though!
  • HamHead, on 12/05/2007, -4/+1As much as I like Joe Biden, this is really just lip service. The US doesn't have the troops or the money to bomb Iran or the wearwithall deal with the aftermath. I think it's easy to talk big when you know deep down that it will never happen.
  • bubba9999, on 12/05/2007, -2/+1It's what John F. Kennedy would have done.
  • GhostyBoy, on 12/05/2007, -3/+6I prefer Kuccinich's statement:

    "Impeach them now."
  • chesscat, on 12/05/2007, -1/+2Democrats: All hat no cattle
  • synthpop, on 12/05/2007, -2/+7Dems talk tough till its time to vote, then they cave like sissies
  • greenwald, on 12/05/2007, -1/+3Biden was dead on busting Bush's nuts over Iran on Hardball last night.
    Even if you wouldn't put anything past the administration at this point, yesterday's Biden's rant is a must see.

  • sushicombo, on 12/05/2007, -2/+3Whats really amazing is that we've come to the point where the president CAN bypass congress and invade another country.

    ***** unbelievable.
    • bigjimslade, on 12/05/2007, -3/+2That's called the Constitution...it's the document that gives the President that power. Sorry.

      I love it that everybody here was convinced an invasion was going to happen...you've all been duped. Also, don't thing the National Intelligence Estimate is that important - it's intelligence and it's an estimate. Nothing more, nothing less.

      How good is our intelligence? All of you seem to be convinced of some "lie," but alas, the NIE said the Iraq was developing and help WMDs.

      • nelsor, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1WRONG! The war powers ACT gives a president the right to wage war for 60 days WITHOUT the consent of the senate... NOT the constitution...
  • dtaylor379, on 12/05/2007, -0/+0Biden says plagiarize this... What a pompous... If a democrat gets elected lets buy her a bicycle with training wheels. Remember we live on a food chain where greed and agendas come in all shape, sizes and deceptions. Look at yourself and all your well meaning rationalizations and tell me you trust Iran. PLEASE....
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