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Believe it or Not: U.S. military force at highest level in Iraq EVER

sfgate.com — The size of the U.S. military force in Iraq has reached nearly 162,000 troops, the largest American presence at any point during the 52 months of the war, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.

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  • brycelb, on 10/10/2007, -19/+10It's about time we got serious with this!!!!!!
    • dtd00d, on 10/10/2007, -10/+16It's about time we got serious about getting out.
      • ruddy, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3thats what she said
        • mdhauke, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2And it's working, significant imporvement is seen in most of Iraq over the past few months.
    • footodors, on 10/10/2007, -11/+3Now if every soldier kills 10 towelheads, we'll be all set.
      • dmjarrington, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3for the record... everyone thinks you're a spineless dick...just be aware of that the next time you think it's politically correct to call for the genocide of an entire region.
    • felman87, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3162,000 is serious? I'd prefer somewhere within the ballpark of 400,000 troops.
    • slundal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That's about twice the size of the entire swedish army.
  • SilenceGold, on 10/10/2007, -16/+5Watch the death rate climb.
    • eviscero, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7The rate is actually going down so you can insert your foot in your mouth now.
      .001/10
      • Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0No it's not. Check the figures here http://icasualties.org/oif/
        July was lower, but still higher than before the escalation began and August is gonna be worse than anything if it keeps going like this.
    • footodors, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1long as it's towelheads
  • allaboutdatiki, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Ripley is rolling over in his grave.
  • totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -15/+6the "Surge" is now an "Occupation" :p
  • 1776, on 10/10/2007, -5/+30The title makes it seem like this is surprising news. It's no surprise that we've exhausted more resources over the last few years than any time in history, this administration has been more reckless with spending, deployment, government property, and our Constitution than any I've ever heard of. If you're not afraid, you should be.
    • billib, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Rekless spending it may seem to us, but for them its money in the pocket. Also I am talking about a big pocket, bigger than your thats for sure.
    • originofawful, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I see nothing to fear here, because either way you look at it President Bush is out in '08. By the way, the reason we have to go to all these lengths is because this is a different type of war than ones of past. However, I could do without the reckless spending. I also think that Bush, or the senate should run the war, just let the military deal with it, since they are the experts you know.
      • yodaj007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This isn't a war. You can't fight a war against a tactic. It doesn't work. What is the winning condition?
        • brycelb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Is that the official stance of the republic or just master Yoda's
    • salinemist, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6We've exhausted more resources than any other time in history? Have you ever opened a history book? Current military spending is less in actual dollars than at the end of World War II, and as a percentage of GDP it's still less than during the Kennedy Administration.
      • iraq, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3You're not seeing the big picture. We're at or over 500 billion dollar deficit, that doesn't include future spending. Analysts predict that this war will reach at least 2 trillion dollars. My guess, is that's a conservative estimate. Add to that an economy that will likely spiral into a recession, an economy that will very likely go south as we approach 2008, increasing gas prices, decreased consumer spending, confidence, decreased trust in government, and the strong possibility that we will have to pay Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other Middle Eastern States a visit because this war has turned into a religious war whether we like it or not. Don't kid yourself, the costs to democracy -and- freedom are high, and the outcome will not be one that is satisfactory to our nation, you can bank on that one.

        1% of GDP,... it's foolish to paint over a ***** war and make it seem like it's a bed of roses, in the end you're still dealing with a heap of ***** and when it hits the fan, its going to get all over you and your Bush apologists.
  • jmpeagle, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16that doesn't even count PMCs which esentially doubles that number
    • brentris, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5ya, I want to see the number including Blackwater and other mercs.
    • tidu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I wish they'd include those counts in American (soldier) deaths in Iraq. It'd be quite startling.
    • etnu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Not necessarily. By most accounts, the mercs are better equipped, work in larger groups, and aren't targeted as frequently (probably because they don't wear standard uniforms). I'd be willing to bet that the death rate among mercs is less than half that of military.
  • chanman2468, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Believe it!
  • Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12That's because they're never leaving. You don't build huge permanent bases along with an embassy the size of the Vatican if you're planning on leaving. No, these NWO fools have other plans, like plenty of massive destruction around the world.
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4You had me until NWO and "massive destruction around the world." There are reasons that they probably never plan to fully withdraw everyone, many of them relating to US interests political and economic, but it has nothing to do with some NWO conspiracy... It's more like similar reasons as to why we still have troops in Germany, Guam, and around the world.
      • Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Oh really? Research the illuminati and depopulation, I think you'll be surprised. Here's a teaser:

        "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

        http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm
      • BrutusCato, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What US political and economic interest are we supporting by leaving soldiers in Germany? We have soliders in Guam because it is a US territory.
  • originofawful, on 10/10/2007, -11/+10I think this is good, I last heard this surge was making progress, (however Iraq's political system is somewhat lacking) maybe we can get our troops out of there quicker.
    • jhul, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0"I last heard this surge was making progress" - Source?
      • brycelb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Not sure where your from but the far left NY Times has agreed. Is that a good enough source?
    • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Without political progress, the military exercises are not progress at all. Our military continues to do a bang up job, but was that ever in question? The question is when will Iraq be able run their own country? With the defection of the Sunnis from the legislature, the political situation has gotten WORSE! Progress... Keep watching Fox and pray. Pray for your kids and the future because we have completely destroyed an entire country. King George is the poster boy for Al Qaeda recruitment. Because of George's paranoid & selfish war, we will be a terrorism target for generations to come. Good Job Bushie! We have spent a 1/2 trillion dollars on this war and AL QAEDA is now STRONGER than before 9/11. They have safe haven in Pakistan and George doesn't have the guts to confront Mushareef. ...or he doesn't really want to capture Bin Laden after all.
      • Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Your military is ***** up too. Air raids in urban areas that are under occupation are probably a war crime and will certainly not help in getting the population on your side.
    • Xill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thats not what I heard from the mothers of the kids you blew off with your shock and awe.
  • MrsButtersworth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Why would I not believe it?
  • mal1964, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2I don't believe it that was yesterday so at this very moment it at the highest. after this post it will at its highest.
  • chillmandan, on 10/10/2007, -11/+9Well, actually the recent news out of Iraq is positive. Unfortunately the public isn't going to be willing to stick around long enough to see if it continues.
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9To be fair, isn't "positive" just "less horrific" and haven't we stuck around long enough? Sorry if that comes across as pessimistic, I'm just trying to throw a little perspective on there.
      • brycelb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Maybe, but since we aren't in a pillow fight you have to use the appropriate words.
    • joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, civilian deaths in both June and July averaged 50-100 a day. Politically the situation is a disaster. The surge has made a small dent that probably can't be sustained. Unfortunately, it will probably be used as an excuse to "stay the course" and so on.
    • Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The recent news is positive? Like 'US air raid kills 30 in Sadr City'? Bombing urban areas in a country you militarily occupy (and the occupation troops have just reached peak level we are told here), there's a sign of strength. The political picture is a mess, The Maliki administration is on the verge of collapse but nobody cares enough to finish the job. Ethnic cleansing is going on all over the country with the US troops unable or unwilling to stop it. Refugees are streaming into neighboring countries and the Kurdish areas. Electricity and therefore water have been cut off in the capital. Not even the Green Zone is safe. Yup things are going swimmingly as Ann Coulter put it a few months ago.
  • indorock, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14omg submitter wrote EVER in title! Guaranteed front pager!

    But, isn't this obvious? It's a surge, and Bush made no secret that he keeps wanting to send over more troops. Makes sense that the number of troops keeps going up. Why would i not believe it?
    • pismire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Took the words right out of my mouth.
  • superdoofus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1352 months...
    52 ***** months so far and what has happened to speak of?
    wait, did they just say 52 months? that long already? what the ***** are they doing over there besides evidently "misplacing" weapons and not having old-school battles to fortify and secure areas and thusly getting sweaty in the process only to have their laundry done at $100US per load payable to KBR by us truly? so let's see, laundry twice a month is $200US, they're in-country for about, say, 16 months, so that's $3200 for their deployment, multiplied by 162,000 troops...equals $5,184,000,000. over five billion dollars for laundry services, hmmm. ***** a timetable, the pigs have had too much time at the trough and it's evident they're just wallowing in their slops. or porkbarrel, whichever you prefer.
    • mal1964, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Who are you calling pigs, the troops?
    • redslash, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2"Pigs" means congressmen and Bush's administration.
      • BrutusCato, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i thought you might have meant the no-bid contractors.
  • Erectile, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4It's apparently to do with rotation.
  • zion42, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6Great, now whose protecting America at home? NOBODY!
    The troop levels are high because all the National Guard are gone.
    That means when the ***** hits the fan here, were going to be on our own, with no soldiers = no help.
    • Mardala, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3There are a few National Guardsmen on US soil. They might be busy fighting to get some health coverage, but they are here. Also I would be more worried about having equipment to handle the next big disaster in the US. Apparently the states are left to their own on that one, because it's all in Iraq.
    • joelito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4So? That only means that we have to exercise our second ammendment rights and start arming our selves for when TSHTF.
    • tsotha, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Yeah, 'cuz you can never trust those Canadians. Any minute now the Canadian army is gonna come pouring over the border the Northern US, and we simply won't be able to stop them.
    • Xill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why the hell are you Americans so scared? Nobody is going to attack you. And even if an outside threat existed like "Al Qaeda" more people still die everyday of being too fat or by car accidents. 9/11 didnt justify anything, it was just used for OIL, Opium, Weapons sales, Israel dominance in the middle east and the NWO agenda.
  • chrishumphreys, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5This sudden rise is temporary. They're cycling new units in and the old units that are being replaced are on their way out but haven't left yet.

    I'm totally against the war and the "surge", but this increase isn't a part of a new strategy, it's just cause of the troop rotation.
  • Jonsey, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4162,000 too many.
  • whatthefu, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6The problem I have with pulling out without any sort of good plan to ensure the safety of the millions of innocent Iraqis is pretty big. It happened with Vietnam--we condemned many people to their deaths by pulling out. I'm not saying Vietnam and Iraq were/are not futile, but I feel like valuing the lives of US soldiers and our own personal welfares over something we ourselves started is inhumane. I would feel differently if it wasn't this country's fault that Iraq is in the state that it's in, but unfortunately that is not the case.
    • Mardala, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I agree a well thought out plan is needed, but the trick is it needs to happen and this current administration is not finished with their goals and will not withdraw under any circumstances until a) they are no longer in office b) dead from strokes / heart failure c) bomb the f*ck out of those countries who are not aligned with Isreal or that Sunni country that attacked us. Also I am not sure I would trust a "well thought out plan" with anyone that is aligned with Bush. Thinking and planning are not their strong points. Reactionary annihilation and greed seem to be their strong points.
    • kingraoul3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Humanitarianism does not fly out of the barrels of American weapons. Bullets do.
      The only path to permanent peace and stability in that region of the world begins with the withdrawal of the invading army currently occupying that country.
      To put it another way, the ultimate form that the state organ takes in Iraq MUST be a representative of the true desires of the general population; peoples inalienable right to liberty guarantees this historic fact.
    • joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I don't think there's an option. That minority Iraqis who believe they might be in imminent danger once the US pulls out should probably start thinking about seeking asylum in the US or Europe.
    • Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0It's not like the US is preventing the violence. In many ways it is making things worse, making it harder for Iraqis to compromise as the present government is seen as collaborating with the US.
  • Lister169, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2If you mean EVER has been, then I believe it.
    If you mean EVER will be, then I don't.
  • footodors, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2good, now go shot, kill, and maim!
  • Nicko9y, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Bush: "YER'P WE'LL BE PULLIN' OUT SOON. NO LAURA HONEY I DON'T MEAN YOU"
  • Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8When are you people going to wake up?! They're NEVER leaving! NEVER!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/224055_iraqbases.html

    This has NOTHING to do with rotation! Gah, wake up already...
  • superdoofus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4correcting my math. it's not 5+ billion, it's a half billion for laundry bills alone (mayhaps i revisit calculators?). but i still stand firm that my assertation regarding numbers like that might just kinda hint at overspending and porkbarrel politics. and it's over ten billion taxpayer dollars if they do their laundry every week, but i erred on the chance that the military/us gov. might give a crap about conserving resources and frugality in contract agreements/negotiations and spending.
  • batshitcrazy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6"has nothing to do with a NWO conspiracy."

    you do realize Bush Sr., followed by Clinton, and now the Neocons all publicly and clearly stated they intended to pursue a new world order?

    fool.
  • kinerry, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4We had over 300,000 troops over there in desert storm
    WTF IS THE HOLD UP?!!!
    • daggah, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Why don't you go sign up and volunteer to deploy then? Or are you some kind of chickenhawk? I did my time in Baghdad. What about you?
  • kinerry, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4http://www.desert-storm.com/War/nations.html

    We had over 540,000 troops over there during the last "war"

    What the ***** is the hold up? 400,000+ more troops would be the real "surge"
    • joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Doubtful that's sustainable without a draft.
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1We don't have those troops numbers anymore. They were cut in order to have that 'peace dividend'. Thanks Clinton.
      • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Good luck recruiting them now into the US imperialist military. Would you die so Georges' corporate buddies can make MORE oil profits? Why didn't the GOP up that troop number while they had control of legislature for +6 years? Crickets chirping... BLAME CLINTON! That is sadly all you know. Too bad the GOP knows even less about governing a country. It is a lot more complicated than soundbytes about lower taxes and blaming others. It takes work and a vision for the future (other than the destruction of others). George is on another vacation, setting a new presidential record (as opposed to the congress, which has worked significantly more than the last few GOP sessions). Hard to believe we are at "war". It is awfully convenient when they are working the fear card, but much tougher to live with when it involves actual sacrifice.
  • footodors, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4Can't we just put a million troops there and get this over with. Give me a 50 cal. and I'll be on the next flight to Iraq.
    • leexy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Yeah, more of the same and expect different results.

      Gee..
    • kingraoul3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5You can go right now.
      I trust their a recruit office near enough to where you live or work?
      • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yep. Too bad we can't more of these tough guy loud mouths to put up or SHUT UP. GO! Who is stopping you? Our government has plenty of guns for you too. Our tax money has to be going somewhere and we sure know it ain't healthcare.
    • joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What's the plan? Just kill everyone?
  • daxsymbiont, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4it is a plan, occupation.

    http://chomsky.info
  • schrutefan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10No, no you've got it all wrong. The extra soldiers are there to celebrate the end of the war. There's gonna big a huge party with a banner that says "Mission Re-accomplished."
  • pimpbot1979, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5It's called "The Surge" for a reason, dumbass.
    • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It is called the Surge because the old term "escalation" did not do well in focus groups. Don't forget the politics. Lord knows GWB/ Rove doesn't. That is the outline for which all Bush policy is formed.
  • Corrosionx, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6It's gonna be a piece of cake. We'll be greeted as liberators! The war is going great!
  • fbombs, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3I feel a lot safer in America now! I'm glad our top Mexican border security agents were shipped over there too. Stop them over the before coming over here, right?!?!

    Unbelievable.
    • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That is the amazing thing. The GOP talk tough about immigration, but they did NOTHING while the controlled the legislature. NOTHING! In fact, they did the opposite by sending national guard and resources away from the real front. They created a war in Iraq and ignored the invasion of our homeland.

      You have to admit, you defense minded conservatives. You have been HAD! You think that you have some control over the GOP, but you are wrong. Corporations control GOP policy and they want the cheap Mexican labor to increase profits. GWB latest immigration law attempts are further proof. These GOP leaders want their corporate profits and they want more of the latin vote. They don't care about you. What ever happened to the Libertarian party? They should be huge and growing, except for the fact that REAL conservatives are cowards. They let greed and stubbornness (continued support King George) get in the way of their principles (see balanced budget).
  • procvar, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7So what. The Surge is working, things are going better there. Give it some time & give the troops a chance to win.
    • Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Win how? Win what?

      And if you believe the escalation is working you should really stop watching Fox 'News'. It's not even working militarily and politically a solution is further away than ever.
      • nickymouse, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Not just Fox my comrade, but CNN, NY times and other liberal papers. It's about time we get a General that knows what he's doing.
      • tsotha, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0You need to stop reading the New York Times and start reading dispatches from people who actually leave the Green Zone.
    • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Six more months!. Then after that another SURGE! Then another six months! Then another Surge. This is like the third or fourth Surge since the war started. These surges just didn't not have the massive PR campaign.

      GWB is and always will be a coward. He doesn't want to clean up his mess. He would rather leave it for the next president. That is what this is all about. GWB has no exit strategy. He is simply stalling.

      FYI, Military deaths for JULY are up over last year (and the year before & the year before). You have mistakingly bought into the propaganda generated by the corporate media. You see.. During the hottest part of the Summer, military deaths go down. We have +6 years of data on this, so it really shouldn't be a surprise if the journalist were actually doing their job. Unfortunately they think their job is spouting propaganda for the government. Wake the hell up. It PAST time to do your own research if the media lies to you. You think you would have learned this by now.
      • hittnrun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Ever heard the term "useful idiot"? The terrorists appreciate you and your ilk doing there bidding in the US where they can't be.
  • origclubsoda, on 10/10/2007, -3/+252 month war? The war with Iraq was over in 2003. Since then the Iraqis have been killing Iraqis.
  • Applu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2What the *****, why do you people say ***** like it's getting better over there? Seriously pull your head out of your ***** please? We are not accomplishing a goddamn thing over there, we are policing the country because we made a ***** mess. The only reason Bush won't pull out is because he is too headstrong and ***** stupid to know any better. On top of all that, his corrupted administration take his stupidity to full advantage and further screw the American people for what it's worth. Honestly, what have we really accomplished over there other then taking Saddam out? Perhaps, this?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War#Human_rights_abuses
    • tsotha, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0We say that because it's true. Why are you so sure it's not? Are you there?
  • meteorstorm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0That in numbers means that there is on average one US military personnel for every 165 Iraqis (iraq has an estimated population of 26 million), wow they should feel quit safe with that number, its more than the standard ratio of cops to citizens, 1 to 4 for every 1K citizens, check this URL right from the US military giving the stats:
    http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/milreview/English/JulAug07/ClarkINSIGHTS.pdf
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1We have the highest level of troops and the casualty rate is decreasing. There has been so much progress that the Democrats have had to change their official stance that "the surge is a failure (something they said before it even started)" to "military success does not mean political success".
    • Alpione, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That's my problem with the Dems and the left. As soon as any hint of good news comes out to refute their defeatism, they say "oh, that doesn't matter" and move to something else. Look, we all know that the Dems and left want to lose the war and will do anything to prevent progress, but at least stop changing the subject every time something positive happens...
    • Corrosionx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That's the problem with people who were for the war from the beginning, they invested so much belief and faith in it that they cling on to every little piece of seemingly good news, without realizing it comes from the same ***** who said it would be a walk in the park in the first place. You won the war, Saddam's army was beaten. For the rest, you're in WAY over your head.
  • ralph12c41, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2WE ARE WINNING! DEAL WITH IT !!
    • Corrosionx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3WE'LL BE GREETED AS LIBERATORS!!!
      • Corrosionx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1^^-- haha that comment is even funnier when read as Sideshow Mel !
    • Tzombo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Define winning.
    • Glitchr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Facts are a stubborn thing..
      see: http://icasualties.org/oif/

      How do you see this as winning? I'll read it for you and do some recap for the lazy..

      July2007 deaths = 89
      July2006 deaths = 46
      July2005 deaths = 83
      July2004 deaths = 58
      July2003 deaths = 49

      How is this winning? Did you read the news that ALL the Sunnis in the legislature just quit? There has been ZERO political progress there in the last year. We can play shoot up games in Iraq indefinitely and we will never "win" until they can run their own country (like they did before we invaded). Our work on their infrastructure is joke. They have substantially less power than they did before we invaded. Part of Bagdad is without water right now. Millions of people-- no water. Most of the skilled workers with resources have left the country for a safer place to live. The country looks like Beirut. As much as we disliked Saddam, it was a SECULAR country with a large middle class. Now it is ruins. WORSE, we have set up a Shiite government based on muslim religious doctrine and ties to Iran.

      Yeah. Were winning... Right. I will give you one thing. Our military continues to do a great job. They sure do know how to destroy stuff and kill people. How they can live every day with Bush's dumb ass foreign policy is beyond me.
  • volanin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1IRAQ is a perfect strategic spot to set a military base in case you want to invade IRAN.
    US has already positioned 3 or 4 battle ships for attack.
    Now it's is positioning the infantry.
    • tsotha, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Battleships? Hahahahahahahahahaha. I know lefties don't like the military, but at least you guys should learn enough that you don't sound like a fricking moron when you comment.

      Oh, and there's not gonna be an invasion of Iran.
  • zonk3r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Considering the last number I saw said we have 40% of our entire military (troops, weapons and vehicles) there I'm not terribly surprised.
  • billbacon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If you ask 10 people why we are there, you'll get at least 4 different answers. One thing everyone agrees on is that the war cannot be won militarily. With the money spent so far, not including future costs (which are projected to be triple), we could have given every Iraqi man, woman, and child $16,000. That would have gone a long way to win the hearts of minds. Without a clear goal of what the mission is, no other conclusion can be drawn than that it is being intentionally prolonged.

    Why would they want to prolong the war? The only ones with anything to gain are the multinational corporations. Unfortunately, the money put into the pockets of the multinationals no longer feeds the US economy. Somehow money for these corporations is still being referred to as "American interests". Even the projected 21 trillion dollars to be gained by big oil will not go towards repaying the American taxpayer. I'm not optimistic.
  • BrutusCato, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Win the War in Iraq...Nuke Baghdad
  • guzziguy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3SURGE - DO you remember something called the THE SURGE........AND IT'S WORKING - I KNOW YOUR SAD AND ANGRY but IT'S WORKING....LET'S SEE HOW LITTLE COVERAGE THAT GETS....CHILDREN

    Besides there are probably more people outside your local Starbucks waiting for the new flavor to be available then there are troops in IRAQ.

    I'm thankful they are there fighting the RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS who want to KILL YOU! REMEMBER THAT.
    • Xill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Your Naive. There is not less people dying, the media are hiding the true numbers because it reached near a million dead innocent. But if you scared pussies at the other end of the world still think your safer by killing childrens over there then ***** RECONNECT WITH REALITY.
  • obxjdt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1WOW!!!!
    What part of "Troop Serge" don't you get????
    • hittnrun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Is "serge" anything like "surge"????

      lol
  • hittnrun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0so funny to read the miltiary strategy coming from the keyboards of dope smoking music stealers. Is there anything you geniuses aren't experts on?
  • dagnew, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2the real goal is endless war (which Cheney said in 2001). Something to replace the hugely lucrative (read steal from the taxpayers) Cold War. Towards that end, the 'surge' is a success! Even a 'cakewalk' as the neocons predicted, as long as you have no regard for human life. Permanent bases in Iraq (and control of their oil) can ensure havoc in the region for decades. And if we invade Iran, as Cheney is pushing, we can see FAR greater carnage, probably guaranteeing another decade of war profiteering. Defend the Constitution: Impeach (then indict) BuCheney!
  • LeeSoong, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1IRAN invasion @ 200,000.

    "Last Soldier to invade IRAN buys the beer for the other 199,999 !"
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