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- inactive, on 03/11/2009, -4/+111Q Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?
A: Yeah. I mean, again, I think that's an individual choice.
Q You do?
A: Yeah. Absolutely.
It's done. He's cooked. - inactive, on 03/12/2009, -8/+94Of course he's done. He said something sensible.
- PoizonFrog, on 03/12/2009, -5/+81Somebody better call Limbaugh...we've got a situation here
- earthforce1, on 03/12/2009, -8/+76Maybe the republicans have finally decided to jettison the christian taliban and reinvent themselves.
- poopsybythebay, on 03/11/2009, -5/+52Buh-Bye! He will NEVER be able to stay after that. He is a goner. Or he will make a quick retraction.
- novenator, on 03/12/2009, -6/+52Yeah, I have to say maybe this guy isn't so bad. First he bashes Rush and now he's pro-women's rights. Of course he did go crawling back to Limbaugh, so the jury's still out on this one.
- inactive, on 03/12/2009, -4/+43Uh.
No.
;-) - johnnr2, on 03/12/2009, -11/+49yes, a states rights issue - like slavery.
- JigoroKano, on 03/12/2009, -1/+34It's an individual choice... that your state should make for you. --Michael Steele
- graphictruth, on 03/12/2009, -7/+40Well, he thought he had a better shot at political power as a conservative, black non-idiot by pandering to idiots. The problem is, intelliegent people have trouble being consistently stupid.
- Kinak, on 03/12/2009, -1/+32I think he got his talking points mixed up. "States right issue" is supposed to come first and he's not supposed to mention being pro-choice at all.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 03/12/2009, -3/+30DAMN! Didnt see that one coming. He just keeps sinking!
- Bdog2g2, on 03/12/2009, -0/+26I'm thinking he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night before the interview.
- merlin484, on 03/12/2009, -2/+26L: How much of your pro-life stance, for you, is informed not just by your catholic faith, but by the fact that you were adopted?
M: Oh, a lot. Absolutely. I see the power of life in that. I mean, and the power of choice! The thing to keep in mind about it, uh, you know, I think as a country we get off on these misguided conversations that throw around terms that really misrepresent truth.
L: Explain that.
M: The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life. So, you know, I think the power of the argument of choice boils down to stating a case for one or the other.
L: Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?
M: Yeah. I mean, again, I think that's an individual choice.
L: You do?
M: Yeah. Absolutely.
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L: Are you saying you don't want to overturn Roe v. Wade?
M: I think Roe v. Wade--as a legal matter, Roe v. Wade was a wrongly decided matter.
L: Okay, but if you overturn Roe v. Wade, how do women have the choice you just said they should have?
M: The states should make that choice: that's what the choice is. The individual choice rests in the states. Let them decide.
Original article: http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2009/03/th ... - Solkre, on 03/12/2009, -2/+25Bible belt.
- kingcam, on 03/12/2009, -1/+24Funny how it is those same states...
- workfaster, on 03/12/2009, -2/+25Rush is going to be PISSED!
- Apokalyps2547, on 03/12/2009, -2/+21If the GOP is smart, they'll keep him. I'm serious.
This last election, the GOP moved further to the right to rally the base, but in doing so alienated the middle. Moderate Republicans, like Shays of CT, were collateral damage. The current GOP is teetering on the far-right fringe, with the Robertson / Limbaugh / Malkin / Coulter crowd. Their only hope is to recover some of the middle, and to do that they need MODERATES who aren't afraid to oppose the distant-right-wing on a few issues.
2006 and 2008 were referendums on the policies of the far-right, and the far-right lost. - lithera, on 03/12/2009, -1/+20As being a European it always boggles my mind on how hung up the US is over this whole abortion thing.
We had this whole discussion here 30 years ago, nasty stuff was said. Laws, rules and guidelines were made and that was that.
No one here gives a rat ass what someone's opionion is about it. It's a personal matter and it stays that way. Why does it remain such a great deal in the US? - GrandmaSheila, on 03/12/2009, -2/+21He needs to apologise to Jabba for being pro-choice too.
- dn11, on 03/12/2009, -3/+21I give this guy one more week
- ripple123, on 03/12/2009, -0/+16i think ohios pregnant or something
- merlin484, on 03/12/2009, -2/+18I accidently Roe v Wade?
- hotkinkydad24, on 03/12/2009, -4/+19He is fried, baked and boiled, then comes the grill, turned up high. Within a week he will be gone and thusa bigger idiot, brain dead as well will be searched fo. Rush will be offered 100 million.
- inactive, on 03/12/2009, -3/+17Not even with a retraction will this one pass.
- DankBuddz, on 03/12/2009, -3/+17M: I think Roe v. Wade--as a legal matter, Roe v. Wade was a wrongly decided matter.
L: Okay, but if you overturn Roe v. Wade, how do women have the choice you just said they should have?
M: The states should make that choice: that's what the choice is. The individual choice rests in the states. Let them decide.
LOL! WTF?!?! - inactive, on 03/12/2009, -2/+16Yea, his mea culpa choices are calling for the jailing of all abortion doctors or the women who have one.
- kellcob, on 03/12/2009, -2/+16I believe people on both sides of the abortion issue AND on both sides of the political fence, if they carefully and honestly read this interview, should all be able to agree that Michael Steele is an idiot.
- netgui68, on 03/12/2009, -1/+15As he said himself, he is the head of the conservative party..about time the party realized individual rights...on another note...his azz is TOAST...watch how fast they thrash him out of his position.
- 5celery, on 03/12/2009, -1/+15He seems to want out. Who can blame him?
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 03/12/2009, -1/+14If he meant what he said then I'd say good for him for not walking the party line... but then again he gets an F-- in the consistency department.
- michaeln2077, on 03/12/2009, -3/+16I don't think a retraction will help they were looking to get rid of him, he just handed them the excuse.
- pintomp3, on 03/12/2009, -2/+15Republicans care more about state's rights then individual rights.
- Dipsomaniac, on 03/12/2009, -0/+12"This is an immutable truth that does not rest on whether you or anyone else chooses to acknowledge it. It is so."
That sort of statement in the abortion debate is the equivalent of "Lalalalala I can't HEEEEAR you!" - Taiyoryu, on 03/12/2009, -0/+12Sorry, the state government limiting individual rights is no better than the federal government limiting individual rights. Just because a big and intrusive government is at the state level doesn't make it ok.
- IKORKYI, on 03/12/2009, -0/+11the disintegration of the religious right with the political right is welcomed here
keep going... now we're talkin
GOP - ditch jindal, palin, and newt... lets get back to grass roots conservatism back when it made sense. - Angostura, on 03/12/2009, -0/+11The immutable truth here is that the issue is more complex than you choose to paint it. You are choosing to lump everything from a single cell to a 16 year-old under the same term: "child" - is that actually helpful or sensible?
You are choose to call this single cell "someone" and "innocent child". However by most reasonable definitions a single cell isn't a child, any more than frogspawn is "a frog". Taken to its logical conclusion, you find yourself asking "which came first, the chicken or the chicken?".
You've presumably decided that a "person" arises straight after the two gametes fuse... or possibly after the first cell division. It's a neat, clean, definition - but a silly one in my opinion. An alternative clean definition is that it is a child once it is born. My view is that life is more complex and that such easy distinctions avoid thinking about the problem.
I don't "like" abortion, I don't think many people do. But in the circumstances where the decision has to be made between possibly ruining the life of a conscious human and killing a cluster of cells, the choice is worth making.
- inactive, on 03/12/2009, -2/+12The Republicans ARE the Christian Taliban. McCain losing the election was the final nail in the coffin for anyone in the party who wasn't on board that train. At this point, the only way we're going to see a conservative party without a psychotic religious agenda is if the Republican party dies altogether and a new one steps up to take its place.
- kingtobo, on 03/12/2009, -0/+10It wasn't that sensible -- first he said it was an individual choice and then he said it was a state decision. He seems a bit confused trying to decipher between his own beliefs and the ones he's suppose to parrot.
- NCSUspoon, on 03/12/2009, -0/+10Annnnnd tomorrow, he'll be appologizing to the Rush.
- sizzzzlerz, on 03/12/2009, -2/+11Buuzzzzz! Wrong answer but thanks for playing.
The GOP can't ever give up the Tangelicalban. They're pretty much the only ones who'll vote for them now. As a result, they must continue pushing further right into ultra extreme wingnut land with ***** like this.
Whats funny though is the far right jesus freaks can't even see they've been used for the last 30 years and that the GOP isn't ever going to enact their sharia-based laws. In any case, my take on this Steele affair is to make some popcorn, sit down, and enjoy inner-party cage match. - imnojezus, on 03/12/2009, -0/+9Yes, you can work the loopholes to create an underground railroad of woman's health... Jingro's point is that that is not individual choice. If a woman is too poor to travel and is in a state where abortion is illegal and no non-profit transport exists, her choice is to have the baby no matter what the physical, emotional, or financial cost. Now lets say she was also raped, so her pregnancy is also not the result of her choice. See the slippery slope starting to form?
- einrobstein, on 03/12/2009, -0/+8What makes you think he's actually intelligent?
- TheSwashbuckler, on 03/12/2009, -2/+9Nah nah nah naaahhh
Nah nah nah naaaahhh
Hey Hey Hey
Gooodbyyyeee - snotrokit, on 03/12/2009, -0/+7One word. religion.
- imnojezus, on 03/12/2009, -0/+7solid12345, women and men both get educated about the implications of sex - but it still happens. We're hard wired to like it, and it makes us stupid. Whatever you're trying to rake up by involving "liberals" is meaningless at best - conservative teens get knocked up too (cough...Bristol Palin... cough). No, abortion certainly should not be used as contraception, and no, it shouldn't be a first choice option... but it is an option and the choice to use it should be left to the woman in that situation; not you, not the state, not the federal government. Isn't that the crux of personal responsibility?
- LeftieLucy, on 03/12/2009, -1/+7He's only there as a token African American anyway. I think if, say, Hillary Clinton had won the nomination and the presidency, they would have found a woman to head the RNC.
- NJank, on 03/12/2009, -0/+61st point: http://www.democratsforlife.org . There are a number of pro-life democrats, and they don't generally get run out of town by the party majority. Although, there are many groups who would like to see that.
2nd point: in 1992 Robert Casey didn't speak at the DNC because he wasn't a fan or supporter of Clinton, which included his pro-life views. He was not excluded because of his pro-life views, although Casey himself did hint of such a reason.
jump forward to the 2008 DNC. Sen. Robert Casey Jr.'s speech contained this statement: "Barack Obama and I have an honest disagreement on the issue of abortion. But the fact that I'm speaking here tonight is testament to Barack's ability to show respect for the views of people who may disagree with him."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/08/26/cas ...
Slowly but surely, you're allowed to have ethical concerns in the Democratic party without being labeled a religious zealot. Someone may also have finally realized that people who are pro-life on abortion and the death penalty should not be forced to choose one or the other in their party affiliation. - enotswhat, on 03/12/2009, -1/+6or marijuana, or capital punishment or........
- solistus, on 03/12/2009, -2/+7My religious beliefs say that life begins at meiosis. Let's criminalise masturbation, it kills innocent sperm.
Or, crazy idea, let's base our secular government's laws on non-religious principles, under which there is no coherent justification for considering an unborn fetus a person, let alone a citizen, any more so than we would call scrambling an egg animal cruelty. -
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