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- kmom5, on 02/25/2009, -54/+243Are republicans sabotaging the stimulus? They're sure as hell trying to.
- apastafarian, on 02/25/2009, -34/+213In the past, Ive never held a hatred of the republican party, I've even voted for republicans. I may lean a little to the left of some of their core issues but always believed that if we had to have a 2 party system, we were best served if they held equal power with the democrats. After experiencing the 8 year nightmare that was Bush and the abysmal performance of the 108th and especially 109th congress, their current hypocritical positions on the economy and Obama in general, I come to the conclusion that the republican party in its current form must be destroyed for the good of the nation. Hopefully, it will lead to a more open multi party system, but the core leadership of the GOP is too rotten and dangerous to ever hold national power again.
- redcolumbine, on 02/25/2009, -37/+160The GOP are trying to rewrite history that's already happened. They took off the leash and let the multinationals bite us to the bone, and now they're calling bandages and disinfectant "pork." The Dems are now EMTs getting slugged by drunken idiots who want to keep on brawling.
- PoizonFrog, on 02/25/2009, -50/+161This is new? This is what they do...what have they accomplished in the past 20 years that was beneficial to the majority of Americans? Not a lot...wars, economic collapse, people living on the street, hunger, lack of medical care, Wall Street thievery, the blowjob impeachment, worldwide resentment, corpotacracy, torture, spying on citizens and the press, lying to the public to bring about war, the deaths of innocent men women and children, class warfare, and a feeling of general abandonment for the public at large.
- normlsparky, on 02/26/2009, -22/+94Schwarzenegger and Crist have the right idea. Let the fools play political posturing while the adults get to work solving our economic problems.
There is never only one political ideology on economics that fits every situation. The Republicans are afraid that a different approach may work, invalidating their beloved "trickle down" theory as the only solution to all economic woes. - oldhick, on 02/26/2009, -10/+75This is a joke. A state refusing the money isn't sabotage. States don't have to accept any Federal money if they don't want to.
It might be stupid for them not to take the money. It might be against the will and wishes of their constituents, but that can be addressed through the electoral process. If their constituents are unhappy then they can elect new representation.
But the President has no Constitutional authority to require Governors to accept Federal money. - geoffp, on 02/25/2009, -38/+89Of course they're afraid it will work.
The only idea they have left about why they lost power is that they strayed from their small-government, laissez-faire roots. That's their core ideology.
If the stimulus works, they think it will prove that that core ideology doesn't square with reality, and the only thing they have left to go back to is a vision of governance that doesn't work.
I think that ideology has failed us lots of times, but they don't let themselves see that, and the public forgets it over time. The idea that everything just takes care of itself is an appealing one. - buddyw, on 02/26/2009, -12/+51I hated the article. It reminded me of how incredibly screwed we.
In the red corner we have a bunch of hypocrites that pretend to adopt financially sound policies until they actually get power, then they ruin everything.
In the Blue Corner we have people that implement the same ridiculous fiscal policies, but they serve it with a slightly better social policy so that it's easier to swallow.
Oh and each party has a different list of organizations that they pander to.
What kind of choice is that? - drmangrum, on 02/26/2009, -13/+50Seriously, read up on the damn bill. It's not as rosy and perfect as the author would lead you to believe. The governors that are opposing it AREN'T evil mustache-twirling villains. They see some honest problems in the future that taking the money would cause.
Frankly, I find the fact that more politicians AREN'T addressing any long-term effects of bill far more disturbing. Even if the Governors are proven wrong in the long run, at least they had the courage of conviction to speak their minds. - CosmicSurfer, on 02/25/2009, -25/+60Of course they are...a continuation of the smoke and mirrors game . Mix it with a lot of blind American Exceptionalism and you have the Rushian Party of today...The GRAND OLD Pariah with More of the same McCain, Boehner and Jindal leading the march.
- Donpablo, on 02/26/2009, -23/+57The stimulus sabotaged its self, it was doomed to fail.
But why not fall into the political blame game all over again and just run in circles never solving anything. - inactive, on 02/25/2009, -60/+90I loved this article.
- BDOUG, on 02/26/2009, -4/+33Excellent analogy.
- Alheithinn, on 02/26/2009, -7/+36Schwarzenegger is twice the governor Jindal is and far better than any other Republican governor. It's the California voting rules that have ruined California, not a governor who actually works along bipartisan lines.
Jindal isn't an adult. He's a crybaby, like the other Republican governors and Congressmen. He's like a kid who didn't get his way so he is going to hold his breath for as long as he can. If you conservatives think THAT is adult behavior, it's no wonder the Republicans are in the bind they're in now. - TCSavant, on 02/25/2009, -10/+38First time watching a presidential address to congress?
The opposing side always acts this way, no matter who is president. - PopcornDave, on 02/26/2009, -8/+36If it works, then who gives a ***** if we ever see another Republican in office ever. If it works then that's all that matters isn't it? In the end, aren't we more worried about our economy recovering than who's responsible for it?
What's more worrisome is that nobody can seem to have a differing opinion from anyone in power without being chastised with the "wanting to fail" mantra being hung around their neck. It's the last 8 years of "if you're not with us, you're against us" but just along economic lines instead of hawkish ones. - ApokalypseNow, on 02/26/2009, -2/+29The Governator is actually not doing a half-bad job, probably because he's an economic moderate and a social liberal (generally speaking, that is) in addition to being amenable to bipartisanship. That he identifies as a Republican when he has these views seems a bit strange to me, but hey, his actions speak louder than his party affiliation.
- 666dorado, on 02/26/2009, -13/+39uh, power grab for the executive branch was the bush-cheney administration, in case you weren´t paying attention the last 8 years.
- LastVisibleDog, on 02/26/2009, -39/+65I see the Obama Crack is distributed freely - are you people really that stupid?
Obama is in the process of running a deficit of about 2 trillion dollars.
The highest Bush-era deficit was less that 500 billion.
Obama claimed Bush's deficit spending is what caused the problem
His solution: deficit spending that is over three time worse than Bush.
Take a big-ole drag off the Obama-crack pipe and link to brain-dead Obama blogs..... - peacelvr, on 02/26/2009, -37/+62What about the Democrat who's refusing stimulus money? Tennessee? More than just Republicans remember history.
- jfsimard79, on 02/26/2009, -51/+75Which is a good thing.
- SQLserver, on 02/26/2009, -26/+47They are doing more than sabotaging the stimulus. Republican governors who are refusing stimulus money are sabotaging their states. If I lived in one of those red states, I'd be pissed as hell that my governor decided that the entire state population has just got to deal with crappy education, science, and infrastructure to make his political point. It's sick.
Education and infrastructure already are a joke in Red states: They will just continue to be left in the dust, which, of course, will keep the states solidly red. Areas with better Education and Infrastructure are more liberal: Exactly what the Republicans don't want to happen. They also don't want their state economies to get better, because that would mean the evil Democrats would be right.
Thus, they win, win, win by making their citizens loose, loose, loose.
Any governor refusing stimulus should be bypassed and the congressmen of that state should control all stimulus affairs for the state. - poopsybythebay, on 02/26/2009, -36/+57Republicans have ALWAYS been whiny losers. They just roll that way. They are actually the ones with the victimization complex and they always have a boogie man or an oppressor. It's fill in the blank time with them. If its not Russia, it's Osama, Suddam, Socialism, Fear, 9-11--it is always something.
- Homerr, on 02/25/2009, -34/+54The Republicans looked like obstructionists last night sitting as a block while others supported Obama.
- atomheartmother, on 02/26/2009, -14/+33Louisiana was the ONLY state that increased employment in December. That's jobs- the very same thing the stimulus purports to create. This from the US Department of Labor:
"The only over-the-month increases in the level of employment were recorded in Louisiana (+3,700 or +0.2 percent)" http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/laus.pdf - zydeco, on 02/26/2009, -5/+24Check this chart out and see who the freeloaders REALLY are:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2987025203_fc2 ...
Of the 32 states that receive more from the govt than they give, 84% of those are Republican.
Of the other 18 states that give more than they get, 78% are Democratic. - fugazied, on 02/26/2009, -6/+25Have the GOP ever accomplished anything apart from invading other countries, bringing religion back into government and cutting taxes for the rich?
- stg3095, on 02/26/2009, -1/+20I would like to know more. Which measures were the most effective? No sarcasm. Please enlighten me.
- FreddieD, on 02/26/2009, -2/+20Or volcano monitoring! These worthless pork-filled liberal hippies.... next thing you know they'll want to fund better hurricane monitoring too.
- Firstdaughter, on 02/26/2009, -19/+36"Are Republicans Sabotaging The Stimulus?"
Let's answer a question with a question shall we? Does a bear ***** in the woods?
Same answer and always on the same day. - geoffp, on 02/25/2009, -24/+41Ad hominem.
But yeah, paying private citizens to do useful work is a horrible idea. Putting all that money in private hands sure empowers the executive branch. No good will come of it. (roll eyes) - oldhick, on 02/26/2009, -0/+17Our form of Government is a representative form of government meaning we elect officials that we feel best represent our beliefs to decide for us. We given them the power and authority to vote as the see fit. If they don't reflect our views and wishes, some states allow recalls, in others you simply vote them out next election cycle. Good question though!
- AmazingSteve, on 02/26/2009, -17/+34If you want to make certain that you won't be back in charge in the next decade or so it is.
- Heidenreich12, on 02/26/2009, -4/+20thats the most retarted thing I have ever heard. I did not vote for Obama, but I am starting to LISTEN to what he has to offer. So can you stop blaming everything on the Republicans? Can you give us a shot and not blame everything on one group? Everyone is the problem, and its going to take everyone to create a solution.
- phschris1, on 02/26/2009, -15/+31They aren't "sabotaging" anything. They are simply refusing to follow a nonsensical bill. When has throwing trillions of dollars at the problem ever worked? Rewarding businesses for TERRIBLE business practices is not logical. Unrestricted federal reserve power...lunacy. Promoting businesses to still lend to people when they are up to their necks in bad debts...irresponsible. Restricting our personal freedoms (Marijuana use) etc...asinine. Following a political leader as if he is the new messiah...pathetic. Use your brains...this country is on a one way course to devastation unless we the people act.
- crabitha, on 02/26/2009, -22/+38No, they're sabotaging themselves. Bobby Jindal's career is over.
- 666dorado, on 02/26/2009, -19/+35they´re going after the popularly elected obama from the get-go. instead of dealing with the crises at hand, the party of sore losers is so out of ideas that they will throw the kitchen sink just to nail him on anything. maybe they will get lucky and catch him lying about a blow job or something. ***** pathetic.
- BDOUG, on 02/26/2009, -0/+15Louisiana is still gaining jobs because of post-Katrina recovery / rebuilding operations. While the new jobs are a very good thing, it's all because of a tragic natural disaster. Jindal didn't create the jobs.
- Caedus, on 02/26/2009, -16/+31I would sabotage it, too.
I mean....who the hell even WANTS a "hovering monorail" to Disneyland? - Justin676, on 02/26/2009, -16/+31If I were in Congress and the likes of Reid, Pelosi, and Frank wanted to pass a bill in less than 48 hours that was around a TRILLION dollars worth of taxpayer money, and I knew it was basically a grab bag of a every failed Democratic spending bill in the last couple years, plus a little infrastructure to make it look ok, I'd try to vote it down too. No one in congress even had time to read, analyze, and decipher the entire bill before Obama and the rest forced them into a vote by scaring the public to death with our "catastrophe". And on top of that, they lied and went back on their word about letting the public go over it for a couple days before passing it. There would have been ZERO harm in giving it a couple days for the public and congress to actually READ it. But if I were him and I knew there'd be no way the public would approve of all the pork, I'd want to force it through too.
- superkendall, on 02/26/2009, -27/+42No, they are afraid America will pay dearly for the stimulus. Which we will.
Remember that DISSENT against the stimulus is more bi-partisan than support, more Democrats were against than Republicans were for. - gfryesc, on 02/26/2009, -10/+25or maybe they want to dial back the hysteria and actually read it before signing on. god knows the left didn't... and obama didn't. he never wrote a bill when he was in the senate, so why would he start now with 1trillion dollar, 1000 page effort?
- treehugger87, on 02/26/2009, -6/+2020 Years? More like 40, with only Clinton & Carter to break it up. No wonder we're so screwed.
- unii, on 02/26/2009, -4/+18While you idiots are busy and caught up in....My guy vs. your guy... Democrat vs. republican... Bush vs. Obama and are cheering on your guy (evening the score) so to speak... You are failing to see that one guy (Bush - definitely f'ed you over and royally f'ed our budget deficit/debt for useless crap) and another guy is following right along in his foot steps....
We all agree.. Bush was a retard who screwed this nation over... Everyone understands that and that republicans lied and failed their definition of being conservative people who were for small govt..... They took money from your tax dollars and borrowed money when that wasn't enough and largely rewarded rich people...Yes, they screwed america over... And you guys fell for their lies and empty promises (majoirty voted for them) ... (K, it is understood)...
When are people going to wake up and understand that what is currently happening is not much different in way of fiscal/monetary wrecklessness .. It's just serving to benefit largely non-rich people... The money still comes from somewhere (more taxes - on the rich... kudos to this but there are consequences) and a large majority (see how obama's plan is created a $1.7 trillion dollar budget deficit.. The largest since 1943) is BORROWED ... w/ Interest.
***** !!!!! lol... does anyone get it?
It's like that dumb girl who is w/ a guy who dogs her out and cheats on her ... she is pissed because of how he did her so she goes running to the next guy (not the good guy who is going to do right by her).. but the next guy who promises not to be like the previous guy... The guy who says all the right things... Says how he is going to treat her right and make up for the things that the previous guy did ....
Meanwhile, he dogs her out even more than the previous guy.. But he takes her out to breakfast the day after .. So, I guess, it's all good...
LMFAO, hate to go their ... But WAKE UP AMERICA .. you dumb slut ! You're being ***** again.
If he had done all of these wonderful things by :
> Increasing taxes on the rich (fine... go ahead and even the score.. but beware of the consequences)
> Cut govt. spending drastically.. Cut out all the freaking fat (I used to work in defense... Most contracts are organized like this :
> Hire 20% of people who know wtf they are doing
> Hire 80% who are borderline retards w/ a degree...
> Govt. is charged per engineering hour... on the books it all looks the same...
So, say you have a total of 100 engineers organized as the above....Say you charge the govt. $100/engineering hour...and pay the engineers $30/hour... Thus, your profit margin is ($70/engineer - costs)
IN order to maximize profit.. you overstaff of course... you get 20 competent people who really get the work done and 80 more who just bring in the extra $$$/hour in profit...)
I can go on and on...
But simply, if you weren't getting screwed over.. the budget deficit as a result of wasteful spending wouldn't be $1.7 trillion dollars. When obama leaves office, the u.s debt will be higher than when he entered... a lot higher.. by the trillions...
How the hell is that change you can believe in? There is no free lunch people .. No free breakfast.. And for that nice morning after brunch, you got bent over a f***ed like a slut coming off a failed relationship. And O' b.t.w - he didn't tell you yet but brunch was actually free :
http://www.ihoppancakeday.com/ - poprocksandsoda, on 02/26/2009, -43/+57Funny how the Democrats, who have all the power are complaining about a few Republicans who have no real power. Your logic doesn't make sense.
- BDOUG, on 02/26/2009, -1/+15The other factoid he's missing is that red states tend to receive more net tax dollars at the expense of the blue states.
- ryan83189, on 02/26/2009, -21/+34If they take it they are hypocrites, if they don't they are "destroying their states". Don't you see how you created a lose-lose situation here? Give up the damn victimized underdog *****, you passed a humongous and controversial bill with the support of only 3 republican congressmen. There are not enough republicans in power to stop anything you do, the ball is entirely in your hands here. If it works, it works, and will be abundantly evident in the comparison of states who took and states who refused the services. If not, "I told you so" would suffice for most who opposed this.
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