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- DestroyFascism, on 04/28/2008, -13/+49IF Americans can haul the Japanese generals into prison for exactly this, then they should also face the same fate! There is no double standard, this is not who we are and is not what I want to become. Screw Bush and anyone who voted for this, to prison you must go! NO double standards!
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -12/+40You mean this video
http://mediamatters.org/items/200611060004
LOL hey *****, the guy didn't even get close to being water boarded for real. Is that why you didn't post a link to the video?
Man you spineless scum bag Fox News knuckle draggers are a disgrace to this country. Why do you hate our troops? - DinX, on 04/28/2008, -4/+27http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ7lSPA9g8s
Direct link to the video. - pintomp3, on 04/28/2008, -8/+31if waterboarding were no big deal, why were japanese solidiers convicted of doing it to american soldiers? were they wrongfully convicted?
- nblsavage, on 04/28/2008, -4/+26So if they are evil we can be too?
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -4/+20Wow that was a very powerful video.
- orangefly, on 04/28/2008, -3/+16that seems to be the opinion of the right....
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -11/+24Try turning off FOX news for a few months, go outside, enjoy life, then come back and try to watch that crap. You're brainwashed you ***** moron.
- pintomp3, on 04/28/2008, -3/+15so we should act like terrorists too?
- laserblazer, on 04/28/2008, -6/+17The practice of torture most certainly does not support our troops - they wind up getting killed over it in revenge attacks.
- Waiting2awake, on 04/28/2008, -0/+11I hate you now - making me agree with BTT. He may be a dick, but he is a dick not because of his ancestry. Racist ***** need to be stopped. It is wrong when Israel does it, it is wrong when you do it!
COnsider yourself reported. Asswipe. Making me agree with BTT, there should be a law. - pintomp3, on 04/28/2008, -6/+17the constitution and geneva convention are so last decade.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/28/2008, -2/+12Buried and reported this and every comment you made in the last three pages of your history.
- WoollyMittens, on 04/28/2008, -8/+18This is what every US citizen approves of through complacency.
- Waiting2awake, on 04/28/2008, -5/+15What did they do to you? Personally. They aren't enemies - they didn't invade your country did they? How do you live with yourself? What would you do if a country invaded the USA? Sit back or defend it? What would that make you?
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -1/+11Why are we so upset over something so insignificant, don't you people know there are pictures of Hannah Montana in sexy positions on Vanity Fair!
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -4/+14Then put a video on how these enemies were created.
- groone, on 04/28/2008, -4/+12What are you talking about? The Japanese did it quite a bit differently..end result was usually death, and not by drowning, but by beating. A lot of times death would end up with the stomach of the captive on the outside of the body because the Japanese interrogators would jump on the over extended water filled stomach.
- Waiting2awake, on 04/28/2008, -6/+14Bravo.
- Murdats, on 04/28/2008, -2/+10you mean those people of whom we have no charges or evidence that they are really our enemies, only the word of someone wanting to collect a bounty.
or maybe you are talking about treating them like how we want our soldiers treated, or perhaps you are saying that the Geneva convention is actually quite wussy and real countries should ignore it. - orangefly, on 04/28/2008, -2/+9they hate us for our freedom....
/s - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/28/2008, -0/+7Dugg.
- borez, on 04/28/2008, -3/+10Listen mate, waterboarding is far from being a week form of torture. It can lead to broken limbs from struggling, damage to the lungs from water inhalation, heart attacks and death. The long term effects are well documented too, how about every time it starts to rain, you feel like your gonna drown ( and this can last the rest of your life )
It was one of the Spanish Inquisitions favorite forms of torture and those guy knew a thing or two about the subject.
Some people even regard it not as torture, but as simulated execution
Week torture... I think not - XeXers, on 04/28/2008, -4/+11Good for Amnesty for getting the word out.. The Bush Administration has tried to sweep this under the rug. I'm glad Amnesty is making sure they are held accountable.
- pintomp3, on 04/28/2008, -2/+9"I know waterboarding is torture - because I did it myself" Malcolm Nance,former master instructor and chief of training at the U.S. Navy Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape School (SERE) in San Diego
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/10/31/200 ...
japanese solidiers were convicted for doing it to american soldiers, even Mccain sees it as torture:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/29/politics ... - halleyscomet, on 04/28/2008, -4/+11How about trying EFFECTIVE interrogation techniques? The NAZIs were sadistic bastards who loved to torture people, but not to get information. They tortured people whom they wanted to destroy. When they wanted information, like the captured US and British Airborne, they kept them in nice, comfortable quarters, ever threatened them and treated them kindly. They got more information out of them that the USA has EVER gotten out of a Terrorism suspect.
Data gathered through torture has a long and proven track record of being useless crap.
Torture is for hurting people and forcing false confessions. I doesn't produce useful data. - clayasaurus, on 04/28/2008, -0/+7Yea, and most of them could not last more than 12 seconds without breaking.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/28/2008, -0/+7And the funny thing is I'm not even Jewish. I assume its because he thinks bohica is hebrew.
- klineda, on 04/28/2008, -4/+10That people volunteer to be water-boarded shows you that it is not lethal. The 5 "horrible" interrogation techniques are stress position, forced nudity, sleep deprivation, water-boarding, belly slap. Hell, I think I'd pay for at least three of those.
- JohnReb, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6Don't know about NJ, but I learned it back in the 1970s in the USN under President Jimmy Carter.
- sodade, on 04/28/2008, -3/+9Well played. I would have started with Iran in '53, but maybe Iraq was a better choice. The problem is, these morons will just jump on the "you are anti-american" bandwagon - idiot america FTL.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6I forgot the audio link:
http://www.nj1015.com/personalities/jim-gearhart/a ... - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6Holy *****, I'm agreeing with waiting.
- JohnReb, on 04/28/2008, -2/+8They are alive, so they are being treated better than the GC requires. The GC allows for them to be shot.
The memo was required because too many people don't realize that the Conventions don't apply since our enemies have broken them. - Hetman, on 04/28/2008, -2/+8Every other modern nation in the world defines waterboarding as torture.
- JohnReb, on 04/28/2008, -1/+7The Geneva Conventions don't allow POWs to be tried except under very limited circumstances. Such a tribunal would be illegal.
The conventions require, among other things, that troops wear distinguishing marks so as to allow for the safety of non-combatants. What are the distinguishing marks used by our current enemies?
The conventions specify that the troops of non-signing powers are only coverred for as long as the non-signing powers comply with the Conventions themselves. Where are the US POWs bring held in accordance with the Conventions as oppoosed to being summarily executed?
In fact, the current treatment of captured enemies is over and above what the Conventions require, our troops would be legally allowed under just the Conventions to shoot them out of hand.
The Geneva Conventions are not the toucvhy-feely sunshine and roses documents some of the people trying to invole them think they are. - apetrie, on 04/28/2008, -1/+7"not because we did something to offend them" I think you need educate yourself on the foreign policy and actions of the U.S. government in last oh, lets say.. 50 years. It might make you feel better to buy into the crap that people hate your country just because, or for your freedoms, or because of some insane bias, but that doesn't mean its grounded in reality. I'm not defending or justifying that hate, I'm just saying that brushing it off with out taking responsibility for any of the cause of it is wrong, and ignorance can really be your only excuse for it.
- JessicaLF77, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6My favorite is the M198 Howitzer that's named BOHICA here at Bragg. I giggle every time I see it out at the field exercises.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -4/+10I'll start with Iraq.
"In 1963, the Kennedy administration backed a coup against the government of Iraq headed by General Abdel Karim Kassem, who five years earlier had deposed the Western-allied Iraqi monarchy. The CIA helped the new Baath Party government led by Abdul Salam Arif in ridding the country of suspected leftists and Communists. In a Baathist bloodbath, the government used lists of suspected Communists and other leftists provided by the CIA, to systematically murder untold numbers of Iraq's educated elite — killings in which Saddam Hussein himself is said to have participated. The victims included hundreds of doctors, teachers, technicians, lawyers and other professionals as well as military and political figures.[29][30][31] According to an op-ed in the New York Times, the U.S. sent arms to the new regime, weapons later used against the same Kurdish insurgents the U.S. supported against Kassem and then abandoned. American and UK oil and other interests, including Mobil, Bechtel and British Petroleum, were conducting business in Iraq.[29]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy#Iraq
Name a country or enemy, I'll tell you what you did to them. - relic180, on 04/28/2008, -3/+8You're a piece of *****, because you'd blindly endorse torture that you'll never have to see, feel, or be a part of in anyway. And your excuse? "They did it so we should too". That's an argument that might work in 4th grade, but not in international relations. Torture of a single individual breeds hate in thousands, which create far more threats to America than could have ever been stopped through the torture of one individual.
Just stop ***** torturing and supporting torture you god damn sadist pieces of trash. You're ***** everything up for everybody. - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5It's actually a New Jersey democrat saying.
For the few of you that don't know:
Bend
Over
Here
It
Comes
Again - MWeather, on 04/28/2008, -2/+7They like us a little more every day.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -4/+9Oh my, the optimism of youth.
The world hates you because you keep trying to rape it. And if you're not raping it directly, you're paying somebody else to do it for you. - AngryFox, on 04/28/2008, -5/+10Then let us hope, for your sake, you're never "accidentally" charged with a crime you didn't commit.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -3/+8Where is the bottom for you? Cutting off body parts? Gouging out eyes?
Do you want an American flag in the room while you do it? Would you feel OK with that?
-- just asking... - vexingmodstwo, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5Heh... this one thinks none of this ever happened before Bush took office. Psst... You can actually thank the Bush admins sloppiness for "getting the word out"... other administrations kept it a secret better.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/28/2008, -1/+6http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7229169. ...
CIA admits waterboarding inmates
The CIA has for the first time publicly admitted using the controversial method of "waterboarding" on terror suspects.
CIA head Michael Hayden told Congress it had only been used on three people, and not for the past five years. - jab9990, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5Simulated drowning is NOT torture! Unless it's done by the Japanese, of course, then simulated drowning is torture and punishable as a war crime like we did to the Japanese in WWII. This doesn't mean American simulated drowning is torture though, because unlike Japanese simulated drowning, American simulated drowning is done to protect us from the terrorists. And terrorists are bad, bad, people.
- frostbyt, on 04/28/2008, -3/+8Anyone who uses torture as a means to an end is a sick sadistic person and should be locked away for life.
- Waiting2awake, on 04/28/2008, -3/+8How did you become so frightened of poverty stricken people?
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