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- inactive, on 11/10/2007, -13/+121Our appetite for illegal drugs is the lifeblood of organized crime in America. It is also the cause of corruption and bad government in Mexico, Colombia, Peru and Bolivia.
The "war on drugs" has been going on for thirty five years now without any decrease in the amount or even the price of drugs on the street. Our efforts at drug prohibition don't work, and by fueling narcotraffic with billions of dollars we are killing people here and abroad.
Give it up. Legalize everything. - joe8pack, on 11/06/2007, -21/+107If illicit drugs were legal,how would the police and government control you, your life and your property?
How could they seize your house, your car, your savings if they did not have a war on drugs?
How could the police stop you, search your vehicle and plant evidence?
How could the government tell you to only use the approved drugs, alcohol and tobacco?
How could they keep you in fear of losing your children?
How could they keep you in fear of losing your job?
How could they drive seized vehicles and have big parties with the loot they stole?
How could they?
How? - iDragonFly, on 11/08/2007, -10/+80There will always be people who'll take whatever drugs are available, legal or not.
But by removing the crime aspect from drugs, you also remove the 'forbidden' intrigue that many young people are commonly drawn to, as well as the pushers that profit from this type of intrigue.
To say that by legalizing all drugs we would in essence be giving children the message that as a society we're condoning drug usage, is to underestimate the intelligence of children.
Besides, aren't we already a society that pushes doctor prescribed and over-the-counter drug usage - via television, billboards, magazines, etc?
Do you see the hypocrisy here?
I'm pretty sure most kids do. - MaynardJK, on 11/10/2007, -6/+57I call *****. You don't have a libertarian streak. You don't think people are smart enough to make their own choices.
- Scheissen, on 11/10/2007, -8/+48You're so pathetic. You rely on the government for morality and not parents.
- jmgoody311, on 11/06/2007, -2/+39Cocaine's a hell of a drug...
- jimmyjay, on 11/06/2007, -7/+43Prohibition doesn't work. Anyone can buy illegal drugs anywhere in America. The government just needs to be in on it, they need their cut of the action. If not through the police war, court & jail system - - then through taxation.
The same was true of how the mafia ran the numbers and the government called it illegal, until they created the state lottery. - leftyslament, on 11/08/2007, -1/+32Through the War on Terror?
- YumYumKittyLoaf, on 11/10/2007, -1/+31I'd think that if we were to legalize all drugs while at the same time pumping money into Drug rehabilitation centers and programs that teach kids real information on drugs and not this wishy-washy ***** D.A.R.E. "teaches", I doubt all hell would break loose nor would the general public's health slide too much.
- SiNN4R, on 11/05/2007, -5/+32Appearently you don't live in the city. There are already 5 people ahead of you who have overdosed. Not to mention the people who had their ***** cut with something bad or people gunned down in the street for a drug deal gone bad. Or how about the street gangs taking over entire city blocks in order to increase their stranglehold on drug trafficking. It also encourages border insecurity since so many drug traffickers use illegal immigrants to mule their drugs.
- petewiz, on 11/10/2007, -0/+25Bu-bu-but the children! You wanna send a good message to your children? Don't tell them outright lies and they will probably respect you. Besides, prohibition makes it easier for high school kids to get drugs. Just look at the statistics of high school kids who find it easier to get marijuana then they do alcohol or cigarettes (89%). Both of those are legal, yet harder for children to get because of the heavy fines associated with selling it to a minor.
The message you are sending to children with the current laws is that certain drugs are OK, dealing drugs could earn you a ton of money, and no matter how much money we give to the DEA, they are only going to seize around .0014% of the illegal drugs that move through the country at the most (look it up bitch). - Innagadadavida, on 11/10/2007, -3/+28Prohibition goes beyond reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite through legislation. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles this country was founded upon.
~ Abraham Lincoln - jcaino, on 11/10/2007, -3/+27guns are legal. that doesn't automatically mean that we all condone the use of guns.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -4/+27You obviously haven't spent one second researching the history of prohibition and the damage it has caused our society. Legal sanctions against illegal drugs fuel a worldwide black market and pour money into gangs and criminal organizations, however,you are a mockingbird for govt. anti-drug propaganda and you recite it so well that I thought I would let you know your favorite movie, REEFER MADNESS is on google video.
- admckay, on 11/08/2007, -2/+25i dunno... they couldn't?
- throop77, on 11/10/2007, -3/+25Which isn't a good thing. Got our kids of coke and onto crack while spending billions and sending millions of people to jail in the process.
- Wootery, on 11/10/2007, -2/+23"undoing these laws would send the wrong message from a health perspective to the general public"
Liberty is not the 'wrong message'. You seem to be forgetting that when government illegalises drugs, they are not saying "Drugs are bad, people" - they are saying "If you do drugs, we will lock you away.".
Only an idiot would conclude that, because something is legal, it must be a good idea. - Scheissen, on 11/06/2007, -1/+21It's their own lives, they aren't harming you. Are the current laws actually stopping daddy and mommy from scoring a bag of crack? If they are, then you might want to take a look into their prescription cabinet cause odds are they are using prescription drugs to fuel their needs.
- tech42er, on 11/10/2007, -0/+18Your views are not libertarian in the least.
- mal1964, on 11/07/2007, -5/+23Dealers are not digging this!
- Phrag, on 11/10/2007, -2/+20Did you seriously just call everyone else stupid several times and then say that the government is moral at the same time?
- YumYumKittyLoaf, on 11/10/2007, -0/+15Increased revenue from taxing drugs at the point of sale would (I'd hope) go to the things I mentioned. Plus I would think that decriminalizing drugs would help free up our court and prison system, costing YOU less tax dollars that you are paying for already anyways.
- renagadex2, on 11/10/2007, -2/+16there are so many inaccuracies in your post its incredible. you can sit in a chair made of my fecal matter.
- Phrag, on 11/10/2007, -1/+14Making something legal is not the same as condoning it. It just means that it is not a criminal manner. There are many things that I wouldn't advice and that most people won't do that are perfectly legal. Criminalizing drugs users doesn't stop people from doing drugs. I have never heard someone say, "Gee, I would sure love to try smoking crack, but its illegal and I don't want to break the law."
- djbon2112, on 11/04/2007, -0/+13Organized crime doesn't necessarily mean "the Italian Mafia". Many gangs, drug rings, etc., who are all involved in drugs (the original Mafia is probably the only one who isn't), fit well into the category of "organized crime".
- SinkToTheBeat, on 11/04/2007, -3/+16Well that has a pretty obvious solution now doesn't it? Abolish the welfare state please.
- Humptydank, on 11/04/2007, -1/+13Actually that's a myth. Whether you're talking about the Italian Mafia, Russian, or whoever, they're all into drug up to their eyeballs. What, you thought it was all running numbers and shooting dice in alleyways?
- Scheissen, on 11/08/2007, -6/+18haha You're ***** stupid if you think China is an example of any free market.
- Humptydank, on 11/04/2007, -7/+19No, that's waay to simplistic.
You simply can't say a-drug-is-a-drug-is-a-drug. You can't compare the legal status of alcohol with what it would be like to legalize PCP. You can't compare efforts to legalize marijuana with an effort to legalize crystal meth. Each drug has its own safety profile when self-administered, and those safety profiles have to be considered in legalization efforts.
So you say forget about the safety profiles and just legalize them? There's disarray anyway, why not just throw open the floodgates?
I honestly believe, and I would like to hear reasoned arguments to the contrary, that we would live in a much worse world if you could buy very potent, easily smokable heroin in any corner store. Yes you can kill yourself on alcohol, yes you can become an alcoholic, but killing yourself with heroin is astoundingly easy and addiction is almost assured, and if you think that the distribution and marketing power of the drug cartels is impressive, try the Phillip Morris heroin division.
Any reasonable advocate of new legislation on drugs advocates the legalization of marijuana right away, and then using the tax revenue from that to fully fund a more aggressive interdiction model and a very aggressive prevention and treatment model against the street drugs that have a terrible safety profile when self-administered.
Any other approach can only come from people who don't understand drugs, and would leave a whole lot more people dead. - NikoKun, on 11/10/2007, -4/+16What a moron... You have no Libertarian streak... You certainly don't deserve one... lol
- Tenlow, on 11/06/2007, -1/+13The problem isn't that drugs are bad. They are bad, but it's not the problem. The problem is people are going to do drugs regardless of the law. Making it legal will free up somewhere between a lot and infinity dollars in the government, reduce crime overall, and might actually allow the government to do something productive since they aren't waisting all their time and money chasing down people who want to relax with their favorite substance. Plus think of all the tax revenue they could make. I see no downside other than the fact that there would be an increase in annoying advertisements for the drugs in question. Most beer ads are bad enough already.
- catalysis, on 11/05/2007, -2/+13"Make drug usage as acceptable as picking your nose in a five-star restaurant."
Wow, talk about out of touch with reality. - tech42er, on 11/10/2007, -2/+12Sir, you can have whatever opinion you want, and you can think drugs are destroying America. I don't particularly ***** care. But you cannot throw someone in jail for harming no one but themselves.
- SlimFastForYou, on 11/05/2007, -2/+12Are you serious? I'm sorry but I just don't buy it. If people are going to use something hard like meth or crack or heroin, they obviously aren't the type who concern themselves greatly about legality. Seriously, of the people you know, how many do you think would start such a horrible and addicting thing simply because it was legalized? A huge factor that leads addicts to other crimes is that they are already engaging in criminal activity as well as the artificially high price for their drug because of the limitation of supply caused by enforcement. Plus, those billions of enforcement dollars could go toward rehab programs. I guess it boils down to this: would YOU in any way be more inclined to do meth and crack if it were legalized? Then why would anyone else?
- Pake, on 11/10/2007, -6/+16You're so pathetic. You rely on the parents for morality and not thinking for yourself.
- cranium, on 11/10/2007, -0/+9Booze is legal, but you don't see all of us drinking ourselves into a ***** stupor every night. Think about it.
- bluesnowmonkey, on 11/10/2007, -5/+14Nationalized health care is a big talking point for Gravel. In case you hadn't noticed, there are a lot of Digg users strongly against it. So please don't imply that one would only support Paul over Gravel due to lack of research. They have a lot in common, but there are plenty of differences between a liberal and a libertarian.
- freakk123, on 11/10/2007, -1/+10I'm a freshman in college, and in high school it's pretty easy to get alcohol, drugs and weed. To get weed, though, all you need to do is ask the closest dealer, who (at least at my high school) is just a couple lockers away. Marijuana will always be easy to get, no matter whether it's illegal or not. Legalizing it only saves the average person money, as their tax dollars won't go to a useless war on drugs; further, it would make the drugs safer, it would get drug dealers off the streets, it would diminish the impact of gangs, and it would provide the government with lots of money as they could just tax drugs the way they do cigarettes; this money could go to social services, or perhaps drug rehabilitation.
To be against legalizing is to be supporting something that simply spends money and simply does not produce results. It is, in a word, useless. - rz8472, on 11/10/2007, -2/+11Well Bolivia has now responded by elected Evo Morales. And since we're so against indigenous people making a living off hemp, we've effectively pushed him away and towards *shudder* Hugo Chavez..
- Humptydank, on 11/04/2007, -0/+8The Italian Mafia is heavily involved in drugs. Wow, between The Godfather and John Gotti saying "we don't deal drugs" while taking drug money left and right, their PR machine is really rolling.
- vault, on 11/06/2007, -18/+26You can't tell me legalizing meth and crack would result in LESS people using them. Both of those drugs cause their own problems independent of the fact they're illegal...so it's not just an addict lifestyle thing. The money we'd save in enforcement we'd be spending on the social problems that more widespread addiction to those drugs cause.
Pot though is a completely different story, has medical uses, and should be legal as long as alcohol is. - tizz66, on 11/04/2007, -3/+11Wow, good comeback. You surely win this debate! Dick. How about you justify your response?
- Phrag, on 11/10/2007, -2/+10Have you ever bought coke or weed or are you just relying on what the DEA press releases told you? I suppose you believe that a single marijuana plant will usually grow $5,000+ worth of pot in one season too.
- Phrag, on 11/08/2007, -0/+8Its easier for kids to get illegal drugs than cigarettes or alcohol. Most of the people who sell illegal drugs now don't care who they are selling to. If you gave the drugs to people who weren't in gangs, they wouldn't be giving them to kids because they would loose their job and their store.
- leftyslament, on 11/04/2007, -2/+10Drugs have no beneficial uses for society? Then I take it you don't take antibiotics when you have an infection? Or aspirin when you have a headache?
Not all drugs are the same. The legal status of a drug does not determine its safety or its benefits. There are many legal drugs that have horrible side effects, even deadly ones. Alcohol for example. Likewise there are many illegal drugs that pose little danger to the user or society at large, such as magic mushrooms. Educate yourself about drugs a little, and stop viewing them as black magic. - LeeSoong, on 11/10/2007, -2/+10They'll legalize drugs right after legalizing cold blooded murder.
Drugs make too much money FOR the government, racial control pogroms, SuperMAX contract prisons, local, state, and federal police forces, etc etc.
It is a sobering fact - recognized by the government itself - that the USA's #1 Industry isn't cars or entertainment - it's Cocaine. #1 in revenue and #1 in profits. Take that Intel and Microsoft!
Add up all the profits from all illegal drugs, and it's more money than many small countries GDPs. - cranium, on 11/10/2007, -0/+8You *have* to be a troll. Nobody can be that god damn stupid.
- inactive, on 11/10/2007, -2/+9"law enforcer", as you say it, is what it is today. I remember the day when they were known as "peace officers". The drug war is partly to blame in this change of perception of what they are supposed to be.
No one today can call them "peace officers" and keep a straight face.
And it's not "legalizing" drugs. It's "re-legalizing" drugs. They were legal for centuries and this "government" has outlawed it. - inactive, on 11/10/2007, -1/+8Exactly. We have lost almost all of our influence in South America during the Bush Presidency. It is sad, there was a nascent liberalized movement towards free markets and greater democracy in Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Uruguay, even Paraguay. Paraguay is still in our sphere of influence because Bush bought the government. They won't stay bought.
This is one of the lesser known major *****-ups of the Bush administration. - Metalmoon, on 11/08/2007, -3/+10i'm assuming you are being sarcastic... unless you have bong in your name for some other reason
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