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Airman that supplied security for the 6 missing nukes dead

cryptogon.com — Remember the one about the B-52 bomber that had six nuclear weapons loaded onto it by accident, which, of course, could not have happened—by accident—for a dozen different reasons .Airman 1st Class Todd Blue was assigned to the unit that provides security for that bomber wing at Minot Air Force base. He died while on leave, no details yet.

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  • DesertDude, on 10/10/2007, -2/+149 Michael (Corleone): My father is no different than any powerful man, any man with power, like a president or senator.

    Kay: Do you know how naive you sound, Michael? Presidents and senators don't have men killed!

    Michael: Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?
  • revo764, on 10/10/2007, -22/+168Yet another whistle blower Tillmanned!

    Is the military personel waking up yet, who are your enemy?
    Google Bob Bowmans open letter to the military.
  • iching, on 10/10/2007, -7/+128It seems that others have died lately at the base.

    Jul 5 2007 6:42AM
    Associated Press
    Minot, N.D. (AP) Authorities have identified a Minot Air Force Base man killed in a crash on the outskirts of Minot.
    Base officials say [b]20-year-old Adam Barrs[/b] was a passenger in a vehicle that failed to negotiate a curve, hit an approach, hit a tree and started on fire late Tuesday night.

    Barrs was pronounced dead at the scene.
    The driver is identified as 20-year-old Airman Stephen Garrett.
    He was taken to Minot's Trinity Hospital in critical condition
    http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=140988

    Minot Airman dies in motorcycle accident

    [b]1st Lt. Weston Kissel[/b], 23rd Bomb Squadron [/b]

    MINOT (AP) - A Minot Air Force Base bomber pilot was killed in a motorcycle crash in Tennessee, the base says.

    1st Lt. Weston Kissel, 28, was a B-52 pilot assigned to the 23rd Bomb Wing at the Minot base, said Lt. Col. Gerald Hounchell, the 23rd Bomb Squadron commander. Kissel died Tuesday in the crash, while on leave, the base said.
    Kissel, a native of Tennessee, graduated from the Air Force Academy in 2004, and arrived at the Minot base in July last year, the base said.

    http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/07/20/news/state/136489.txt
    http://www.minot.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123061162

    *****************************************

    Still no report on this Airman's death.
  • kahlessreborn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7220-year-old Adam Barrs was a passenger in a vehicle that failed to negotiate a curve, hit an approach, hit a tree and started on fire late Tuesday night.

    Isn't that how the government kills a witness in like every Hollywood ever made.
  • dunderballer, on 10/10/2007, -6/+72I'm always skeptical of these bogus conspiracy theorists, but I am always willing to take a closer look. In doing so on this, I've followed a few articles back to the beginning of their "whistle blowing". The first published article questioning whether something was afoot seems to be one by the name of "Mistake or Message" published on the Military Times website. It's no longer available. Does anyone know where to find this article? No luck with the Google.
  • theoallardyce, on 10/10/2007, -3/+50Ah thats ok then, one nuke isnt so bad
  • phuzzy3d, on 10/10/2007, -20/+66These nukes were/are going to be used against us (America). They were most likely to be used to invoke NSPD-51. These type of actions by are own government should not be tolerated any longer. The leaders of the "Revolution" will be our new leaders to bring forth the "New America". Everyone else need not apply, you failed us long enough, Good Bye!
  • endora123, on 10/10/2007, -7/+45Only one of the six nukes is missing. Six took the plane ride, five are currently accounted for.
  • Zeonix, on 10/10/2007, -2/+35The hell? He said google the letter so you can read it. Should he just have copied and pasted everything for you?
  • bjornski, on 10/10/2007, -7/+38Coincidence! Nothing to see here, move along.
  • passedoutghost, on 10/10/2007, -3/+33Wow...this sort of efficiency can only be done by the CIA. They make all deaths look like accidents.
  • Kinkistyle, on 10/10/2007, -9/+39The same people who are supposed to be piloting deadly super-advanced military airplanes and jetfighters capable of destroying entire cities are crashing into trees on their motorcycles?? Ohhh THAT inspires confidence! O_o
  • verge, on 10/10/2007, -4/+30More here. Others beginning to question as well.
    http://www.topix.net/city/wytheville-va/2007/09/minot-base-officials-say-airman-dies-while-on-leave-in-va

  • ferrofluid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25'Google it' also removes the possibility of spoofing links, you can trust your own google search results.
    its not lazy, its honest, plus returns a multitude of returns that can be looked at depending what source you prefer.

  • yomamaisfat, on 10/10/2007, -9/+33Mugatu?
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25And now the website is dead! *cues Twilight Zone music*
  • dunderballer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21nm, it turned out to be more of a lead in to a message board discussion than an investigative article. Much of the thread postings is of less substance than those on digg. http://www.militarytimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1559956.
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23You should maintain an air of curious alertness. Nothing more than that, imho.
  • Calypsoaf, on 10/10/2007, -7/+26He was Security Forces.

    Since many of you are not actually in the Air Force let me explain to you what they do. They are cops, pure and simple, they provide base security, to include the flight line, all base facilities, base housing, and gate manning. On a typical base the flight line is usualy guarded by 4-6 on duty security personel, working in teams of 2, that means typically 2-3 patrol cars are on the line at a time.

    Most of their work on the line consists of peremeter security, making sure that no person "breaks red" as it is call, and also looking out for general welfare of the planes. This person was in no way associated with the loading of those nukes. That is a combination of other jobs such as Logistics (on the ground loading ) and the Loadmaster (the person in charge of cargo once it is loaded).

    Now please, drop it, and let this person pass in peace.
  • Vostran, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23What worrys me most is that a failiure on the part of the goverment has lead all to believe that there could be a nuke missing. It should not be possible for this to happen, period. Perhaps this is the intention though, there is a certain power in creating a situation where people believe it's possible for nuclear weapons to go missing.

  • DirtySnachez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19We dont have any ourselves on-land, I would suspect a few submarines might be loaded though....

    Saying that, we're the worlds No. 1 exporter of uranium, which is the secret sauces for nuke goodness.
  • zengonzo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20'A Minot Air Force Base _bomber_pilot_ was killed in a motorcycle crash in Tennessee, the base says.'
  • digghasnoethics, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21In the Hague on War Crimes charges.

    Well it is a fantasy...
  • Crossmenjeff, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22there are more jobs in the air force than flying airplanes, and besides that, enlsited members do not pilot the planes if they even work on aircrew. they are a subsection of society, and as such we do have our fair share of vehicle accidents. unfortunate yes, but accidents happen, and happen more frequently when alcohol is involved.
  • DonKarnage25, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19The other 2 involved that were killed were both killed back in June and July, well before the entire nuke-flyover incident.
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22Didn't you hear? Steve Fossett is in hiding and the government is using the search for his plane as cover for the hunt for the missing nuke.

    /tinfoil
  • 1iProd, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19Well I could have sworn that tree wasn't there yesterday...
  • spynes, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17the radioactive fallout spawns GODZILLA and the evil communist china makes the worlds biggest HELLO KITTY to combat godzilla while mothra is out with a torn ACL.

    HELLO KITTY > GODZILLA in overtime
  • ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Yeah. I still won't forgive him for Bob Denver.
  • scrivenlking, on 10/10/2007, -7/+21As a cop in the AF, I'd really appreciate it if this was dropped......Do some research on his job and you'll find out Calypsoaf is absolutely correct.....You've just tarnished the death of a 20 year old kid and assumed he was involved in a massive conspiracy.....Bury.....
  • inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19I saw it all, man. That tree just jumped out at him. It went psycho. /goldthwaite
  • cassholio, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17I really hate to be the voice of reason but, here goes:
    So, all I got from the article was that Airman Blue joined the 5 Security Forces (its a Group - composed of several squadrons), and subsequently died while on leave. The linked blogspam said he was assigned to the unit responsible for providing security -allthough true, it does omit one thing. The 5th SFS Group provides the majority of the security for the entire BASE - so he could've been assigned anywhere on the base - the chance that he was providing security for the weapons movement is near zero, and nowhere did any news article say he was providing security for them.
  • cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15The reports initially came out that there were five on the plane, then the later reports upped it to six. So they gained a nuke from somewhere. I think we should research who is giving out nukes in-flight!
  • ahuxley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13http://www.abc.net.au/tv/documentaries/stories/s650355.htm

    Australia almost did. We had some plans, the hole in the ground for the reactor set up and post ww2 generation ready to go.
    Australia later thought it was better to sign most of Asia up to a no nuke deal vs entering an expensive arms race.
  • Nyarlahotep, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15anyone care to guess which American city will be first on the Regimes hit list?
  • iirrkk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16I call shenanigans.
  • cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17You mean traffic accidents happen where 6,000+ military personnel are stationed and they're *not* tied to conspiracy? Inconceivable!

    Surely, the government must have killed them because they knew what would happen in the future!
  • DesertDude, on 10/10/2007, -19/+31Tilmanned. Great word. I'm gonna start using it from now on. A Google search fetched only one result in which it was used for this context. Let's aim for thousands in a few months.
  • ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Los Angeles. We get attacked in every ***** season of 24....
  • alllie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Out torturing someone. Making us all ashamed.
  • kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Will you be saying that when a nuke goes off and they blame Iran?
  • Dundasbro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10No.
  • whorunbartertwn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I was in the Air Force... to believe the average airman at an Air Force base is "carefully trained to survive in war and combat" is freakin naive.
  • pyromonkey, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12An A1C would not be directly responsible for the security of the nukes. It sounds like just a really sad coincidence, I'm sure his family is already going through a hard enough time without a conspiracy theory tagged on to it.
  • drekce, on 10/10/2007, -8/+17So one soldier, in a unit that probably has hundreds, dies in a car accident on leave, and you all think he was killed by the Government? No one even knows what this kid's job was...simply being assigned to that unit doesn't really mean anything.
  • davidcg, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13This freaks me out. I'm not sure if I should not care about this or be worried slightly.
  • signal15, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11> failed to negotiate a curve, hit an approach, hit a tree and started on fire

    FAKE. Everyone knows there are no trees or curved roads in North Dakota.
  • cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9What nuke being lost thing? Or are you just confused?
  • AeroSquid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9So what is all this leading up to? So called "terrorists" detonating a nuke on American soil? Are we setting that up now so Bush can stay in power?

    /dons tinfoil hat
    //damn it feels good
  • whorunbartertwn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I can put a "Bush sucks" bumper sticker on my car. I can travel to Saudi Arabia and back for fun. I can start a blog about how the government pulled off 911. I can take an ad out in a newspaper calling a high ranking general a traitor. I can have no children or 14 children. I can move 2000 miles away without consulting anyone or telling anyone. I can debate whether the Governor of Arizona is a lesbian on an internet forum. I can decide to go to trade school to become a plumber if I get tired of developing software.

    There are plenty of issues and questionable policies in this country but if you believe you're living in a full-fledged police state you need to move to North Korea to gain a little perspective.

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