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- toddcat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+66See Dems? If you reward an undeserving figure with completely unjustifiable powers, you empower him. It's the reason that Frodo had to get that ring back in LOTR. If evil gets near power, it wants more power. You stupid, stupid reps and Sens. No wonder the only thing Dems dislike more than Bush is weak-willed, milquetoast, rubber-stamping Dems. How the hell can you give leverage to a President with a 26% approval rating? You need to be stomping on this guy's head (metaphorically of course).
- diggerydood, on 10/10/2007, -3/+40WTF??
- Kewlduderules, on 10/10/2007, -6/+41This is really outrageous. I can't believe this man and this congress. How on earth did we end up with this situation. I really do not want to think about an uprising but you know, when I see things like this happening, it makes you question it!!! This is really sad. For goodness sake, we are Americans!!! Not mindless bureaucrats and corporate warmongers.
What has the American Dream turned into when you feel threatened by your own government? Who is to say as I even write this post that it will not be monitored by the government? Hey, they can make the argument that it can be viewed by foreigners so they can track me down. How sad is that.
I think this surveillance is really about monitoring decent and figuring out ways to oppress and repress differing viewpoints especially as it pertains to Afghanistan and Iraq. Dare we find out any other truths our government has been hiding from us and post them on the internet. We could be arrested and jailed. I am so ashamed of this government but nevertheless, always proud to be an American. - boobees, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27'Merica...... ***** yeah.... (the sad version)
- phase, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23America wound up in this situation by having two corrupt parties and no official opposition. Its time to realize that the two parties are one in the same.
- InetRoadkill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19What I don't understand is that the wiretapping without a warrant has already been declared unconstitutional. So congress is expanding the program? WTF? Didn't these ***** take an oath to defend the Constitution?
- ChristPissed, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20little boots will never be satisfied
- drunkentoad, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14why metaphorically? If a jobs worth doing. . . . . .
- InetRoadkill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12A government ceases to be legitimate when it loses the confidence of the public and becomes a greater threat to its citizenry than external forces. The USA is in serious, serious trouble.
- lovelyrita, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15I completely agree. Isn't anyone paying attention?
- letno58, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15If this doesn't scare you, nothing will!
- bobzibub, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I think that the regular American is busy waving flags, supporting the troops, being generally doing his or her best to be patriotic. Few Americans will critique a government policy without the "while I love my country" catch-phrase. Why is that? I Don't remember English, Canadians, Germans, South Africans, etc. saying that. It isn't just because Americans are patriotic and everyone else is not; that is clearly not the case. But regular Americans are *fearful* of being portrayed as unpatriotic. I would argue that patriotism has turned into suppression of speech and ideas, in the US. If you want an example of a free speech zone, look at England, and not simply "speakers' corner". While there are cameras everywhere, they do have politicians that say things even regular people would never, ever say here. Yet their constitution guarantees no such right.
The regular terrorist, however, knows that all electronic communication is watched. Even way back from the Echelon days. OBL always used human couriers, if I recall.
Btw, I'm a Canuck, so reply at your own peril. You could be (legally) watched by your government. - jp007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I shed a tear for this once great constitutional republic..
- drunkentoad, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10If you can't hate the guy who is cleraly destroying the American people and the freedoms they are meant to have, who can you hate?
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Its dick, not d*ck.
- Gadren, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9The Democratic Congress needs to learn about the follies of appeasement. It didn't work 70 years ago, and it won't work now.
- FRANKeB, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9It's his old substance abuse mentality kicking in from his 'Texas booger sugar' days. Now he is addicted to power instead of cocaine and booze.
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6He has nothing up there to damage.
- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9treason.
- kethraal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7"Please, tell us all what the fourth amendment has to do with the current issue at hand, besides eliciting a knee jerk digg reaction from the intellects who read this rag.."
Sure thing sonny:
1) The bill allows the wiretapping of communications involving either a foreign point of origin or foreign destination.
2) US citizens often make calls to/from foreign countries (for example, a student studying abroad, calling his friends back home.)
3) Spying on US citizens, provided that at least one party of the communication is located outside of US borders, is now legal without a warrant.
See? I travel a lot (60% abroad, 40% in US), and this bill scares the ***** out of me for the reason stated above: if I call home, my phone conversation can be monitored without a warrant. - BelXul, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Look, I'll lay it out nice and simple for anyone who believes it's a waste of time, but...
This man is dangerous to America and its citizens. This is the reason why impeachment must happen. Ever since he set foot into the White House as its executive, more power is all he has ever been after, and this trend is showing no signs of slowing. Remember what he said about running things like a dictatorship? I'm sick and tired of the destruction of liberty in the name of freedom, as if the two are mutually exclusive. The problem is that you cannot save one by diminishing the other. If you want to give up your freedom, then shut up and do nothing. If you want to reverse gears on the road the US is going down now, then do what it takes. Educate your friends and coworkers. Get them mad about it. Angry people do things they wouldn't do if unprovoked. They get out there and make their voices known. They fight back against those who antagonize them and try to rob them. Hold anyone who works against TRUE freedom accountable (as opposed to the catchphrase freedom, which to me means nothing). - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6If you give a mouse a cookie, he's gonna want a glass of milk.
- Ebacherville, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5This is so F'ed up.. our government is going protect companies that carried out the governments ILLEGAL activities in retrospect and into the future as now it's now legal to wiretap anyone without a warrant...
If you support this, you are so fricken brainwashed, you might as well shoot your self in the head.. because your not using what in your skull any longer.
Come on, that thing on your shoulders is made for cognitive thought.
Think about this long and hard,
The government can now tap your phone, internet connection, your cell phone, read you e mail, bug your home or office, with no warrant, no judge seeing what there doing , no accountability.. and these "great" government people are going to protect the companies that carried out these types of activities in the past, when these activities were illegal and protected by a warrant..
Oh yeah never mind that warrant needed for searches thing in the constitution.
If you support any of this you are so not a American, your just a brainwashed slave to the federal machine, because Americans fight for freedom and liberty, Americans always have and always will.
Fighting for freedom and liberty doesnt mean invading other countries in the name of it.. you actually have to stand for freedom and liberty, and not ever give it up.. you give it up and it's gone. - FredoBerfil, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Not only that, this expansion of the FISA act effectively removes court jurisdiction over the program and replaces it with the following: if Alberto Gonzales and an additional Bush appointee "reasonably suspects" that one of the parties to a communication is from overseas (whatever that means), then they don't have to get a warrant.
"Reasonably suspects." What does that mean?
Clearly this is Unconstitutional. There's a reason why the FISA court chief justice quit the program in protest over Bush's wiretapping. Why are Americans so happy to give their freedoms away? Just because someone scares you a bit? - dmh11686, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4But you have to admit when 90% of the political stories are anti-republican, and from left wing sites, something is amiss. When a Olbermann rant calling for the President and Vice President to resign gets 5000 diggs, it may be that digg skews to the left.
- brianbb98, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5little bit at a time...
as we stand around doing nothing. - Frozo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I really don't get it. What does Bush and company hold over these people? Is it really all about them looking weak in the face of terrorism? I think they are so worried about their loss of power, that they will talk big yet back down from EVERY confrontation because their voting record will be spun as "pro-terrorism" by the spin cycle. And the fear-driven lambs of this country who have been programmed to thinking only in black & white through repetitive White House soundbites will never vote for them again.
- minox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Seems" is the key word.
- FredoBerfil, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I just don't understand Congress' logic of appeasing a President that nearly three out of four Americans despise. What the ***** is going on?
- LeeSoong, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Why do I keep expecting lighting bolts to shoot out of Mr. Bush's hands while he screams "Unlimitted Power!!!" and floats through the air?
- ftblstr2319, on 10/10/2007, -7/+10What is the penalty for treason? Who would support a Bush/Vader hanging?
- phantoms5000, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Can there please be one day where the fabric of our country isn't torn apart, where our liberties aren't thrown out the window, where morality counts for something, where we uphold the ideals and principles on which this country was founded on. Apparently not.
- AnarkeIncarnate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Go read the 4th amendment and then get back to me......if you don't get thrown into Gitmo for reading the rights that are NOT granted to you by the government, but by your birth.
- Ghoztt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Republican = Democrat ----- they are BOTH corrupted by big money, oil interests, the military industrial complex, globalists bankers and who knows what else. Who in God's name will listen to the PEOPLE!?!?
- mrrdlc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Thats the problem, the 'terrorist threat' is completely manufactured. Like blocks of cheese wrapped in duct tape, and CNN going "Oops, just kidding!" You're more likely to get hit by lightning. The desperation on digg is getting depressing, people feeling completely helpless.I'm convinced the corporate media is steadfastly working to keep the public misinformed, distracted (Paris Hilton), or constantly scared. People here need to realize that you can't get depressed or upset over things you can't change. You need to keep yourself informed, and think critically, but don't drink the koolaid like digbird.
- FredoBerfil, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I'm just waiting for the obligatory idiot to complain about "Digg hippies" and emit a variant of "if you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to worry about."
God this country is doomed. - kyleandstan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5
Jeasus Flippin Christ People!! I'm I the only one writing my senators and congresspeople?! DO SOMETHING??!! Just Pressing DIGG isn't good enough! If you wait until they completely gut our civil liberties before you act, then you may no longer have the right to protest. It is already illegal to organize an anti war protest (re recent executive order)....time is running out! - UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It seems with every passing day there is more and more sad political news hurting our country...
- FredoBerfil, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Actually, it's worse than that: the bill allows for warantless wiretapping to occur when the government "reasonably suspects" (from the statute) that one of the ends of the communication is from overseas. What does "reasonably suspect" mean? Answer: anything they want. How would we know if they are following the letter of the law? We don't, because now there's no court oversight.
- snotrokit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3anybody have the words to "Oh Canada"?
- nilcam, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Digg is a social news site. The people here seem to think the political happenings in the US are important, thus it is a very popular topic.
- tim1987, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What do you think that mobile phone is for?
- SzaszMan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3"Juvenile"? For telling the truth? You're an idiot.
- nilcam, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3The Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
And I think that covers it. - skyfire1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Turn off the filter. God won't kill you if you do.
- PunkRampant, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I think his point is that he wants to come to Digg and read a variety of stories - not necessarily pro-Bush stories - but at least some stuff besides the constant, redundant Bush-bashing. We already hate the guy, so these articles aren't having any real effect besides drowning out the decent stories.
- IsmailOo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Haha, might as well just put a microphone in all of our living rooms and record everything we say, and if they hear something they don't like... take us off and put some black bags on our head...
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The first person to cry dup is officially retarded.
- dmh11686, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Disapproval is not the same as outright hate, when the wiretapping was revealed close to 60% of the people agreed that it was right for the president to do it. If you look at digg you would assume that no one in America wants it. There are other sides to politics that are often squashed or ignored on digg.
- geekee, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4The crooksandliars version of the story beat the rawstory version to the front page. Digg is seriously owned by the left.
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