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- elliotys, on 11/08/2009, -7/+40So wait, the party that hates government the most, wants the government to have say over womens reproduction rights? WTF?!?!?
- Maddoktor2, on 11/07/2009, -11/+39I don't care what excuse they find to vote against it, as long as they do.
No public option with mandatory coverage is nothing but a gift on a silver platter to the health insurance industry. This is a bad bill that needs to fail. - Dalhectar, on 11/07/2009, -2/+26It actually makes total sense we are rehashing the 80's and 90's culture wars while wanted fetuses aren't getting the pre-natal care they need.. Poison and Def Leopard are doing a comeback tour as well in 2009.
- Dalhectar, on 11/07/2009, -5/+25HR 3962 has a public option.
More info: http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2009/10/30/the-publi ... - spookyttws, on 11/08/2009, -11/+28Great, now Fox news will be claiming that a "Yes" vote on the Health Care Bill means mandatory abortions for everyone. If only we could get an allotment for miniature American flags in there too.
- scottpigeon, on 11/08/2009, -0/+15Regardless of what the Republicans tell you, they are not for small and limited government.
- AgeofMastery, on 11/08/2009, -5/+19So sit down
- Moralogic, on 11/08/2009, -1/+15No, the whole concept of Public Option is the fact that the government is providing insurance, instead of the health care industry. It is pretty much creating a non-profit company ran by the government that will offer insurance to the people, creating a huge pool of people so it can make it cheaper for people since instead of being in a higher risk pool that is limited to their state, like it is currently, they have a huge pool that spreads the risk more evenly, as well as the cost.
- superkendall, on 11/08/2009, -9/+21Forget public option or not, mandatory purchase of health insurance with a $15k fine for no payment - I don't care what else is in it, it needs to fail.
- anotherjack, on 11/08/2009, -1/+12How many of the resulting infants are you willing to adopt?
- the8thbit, on 11/08/2009, -3/+13They hate 'government'.
- bunit03057, on 11/08/2009, -3/+13Please it's $1.1 not $1.3. Government has very precise numbers and are always spot on when it comes to spending and the debt.
- lennynumberone, on 11/08/2009, -0/+9Stop having sex with your sister.
- katie82, on 11/08/2009, -2/+10Shut the ***** up hcharger. A man doesn't play any part in a woman getting pregnant? Why is it only her fault?
Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but god isn't real. See, we all have to give up our imaginary friends eventually. Do you eat seafood? Wear mixed fabrics? You seem pretty judgmental, too. That's three strikes against you. See you in your hell! :) - evilresident, on 11/08/2009, -2/+10oh *****. shut up.
I support putting one life in front of another.
if I get prego, and I don't want the baby, I'd get an abortion.
hell, get me a coat hanger. hell, it's my right to chose if I let somebody blow their load inside me, I get to chose what comes out.
thankfully I'm a boy, so I can't get prego.
but you're also supporting putting one life over another. Your own views are stating just that.
hypocrite. - IHKumicho, on 11/08/2009, -0/+8I don't want my tax dollars paying for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Too bad I don't have a choice saying where my tax dollars go and what they fund....
- kalvinb, on 11/08/2009, -9/+17If government health care included monetary support for abortions only in the event that the mother's health was at risk then it might be appropriate. If a mother has to chose between them or their baby living then it's a health care issue.
An abortion is otherwise an elective procedure. Not a health related issue.
If the government is going to cover elective abortions then they need to cover boob jobs as well. - Propethic, on 11/08/2009, -3/+11Nobody cares what god thinks, because such a thing doesn't exist. Stop projecting your own values onto mythical beings kthnx
- stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -0/+8Let me guess... you're not a woman.
- IHKumicho, on 11/08/2009, -1/+8Insisting that the poor, unwed mother carry her baby to term and then denying her welfare seems just about right in the "Conservative" mindset...
- Verchiel77, on 11/08/2009, -9/+16Don't know why anyone is running scared of the GOP obstructionists threatening to make this about abortion.
They'll attack any "yea" votes, regardless.
Long past time to get a spine, tell the GOoPers "suck it" and roll over 'em. - secrity, on 11/08/2009, -1/+8As I don't believe in any gods, I don't give a *****.
- stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -0/+7Think again, hcharger. Why do so many evangelical teen-agers become pregnant?: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/03/0811 ... or Red States Show Highest Birth Rates: http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001354. ...
- IHKumicho, on 11/08/2009, -0/+7Do you even know what the amendment is that they voted on? The government is not allowed to spend money on abortions, even after the health bill goes forward. The amendment discussed here means that even Americans that buy health care on their own, and PAY FOR IT WITH THEIR OWN DOLLARS won't be able to get a plan that includes abortion if it they get their plan on the health care exchange.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/08/2009, -3/+10No, you don't.
- novenator, on 11/07/2009, -7/+14How can they let something like this get into the bill in the first place? The legislative process is a riddle.
- KublaiKhan, on 11/08/2009, -7/+13Actually, a fetus IS a human being by any objective definition of the term. The debate is about whether a fetus is a PERSON, and is therefore entitled to the legal rights afforded to "real," post-natal people.
- stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -0/+6"If you're pre-born, you're fine, if you're pre-schooled, you're f'd. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life, these people aren't pro-life, they're killing doctors, what kind of pro-life is that? What, they'll do everything they can do save a fetus, but if it grows up to be a doctor they just might have to kill it?" ~ George Carlin
- anotherjack, on 11/08/2009, -3/+8Tell you what. 16 years beats 22 months. A human woman decides what is in her body, she doesn't live like the animals and have sex with no contraception and have as many babies as her reproductive system will allow, just because that's what she was "designed for". You weren't designed to fly and you get in the airplane, etc. etc.
I don't even think you do believe that a fetus is more important and has more rights than a woman. Because if that were true - you'd have already provided for those children before they were ever born. You'd be just that committed - you'd have money and food and shelter and parents lined up and advertised in every newspaper. but no, that's not the "work of God" that you pursue. You prefer hellfire, dontcha?
But even if you did do that, even if you made every provision, some women would want out. And if you didn't let them out, they'd kill themselves. It has already happened, in living memory. They would again. Good riddance? I don't think so. No, most women can't live in your perfect fetus-worshipping world. Many would rather die. Many will, if you succeed. - stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5Catholics? More like perverted religious beliefs are taking their toll on society.
- stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -2/+7How is it defendable to force people to pay for Iraq and Afganistan when they're morally against war?
- redcolumbine, on 11/08/2009, -7/+12It is if you're a member of certain Christian sects. Which, of course, constitute the only people that count.
CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION. No matter how awkwardly cloaked. - stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -1/+6If you read history, you realize that God is one of the leading causes of death.
- CosmicSurfer, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5You don't know what you don't know...you think health costs are high now? Wait until the babies are forced to be born that haven't a snow ball chance in hell of survival because mom and dad could not afford an abortion...You will see those costs rise...And the women who refuse to give birth but can't afford it legally? When they get ripped to shreds in back street unclean abortion and have to go in to be saved but then you don't goive a damn about reality as long as you sleep at night knowing you and your little conscience don't have to care about anyone but yourself
- IHKumicho, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5How about we don't pay for Type II diabetes, treatment for lung cancer, skin cancer, heart disease, or any other preventable ailments as well?
- Swift2, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5You miss the point. These were 40 DEMOCRATS (with wires up their asses to the Pope) who got this amendment passed. They threatened to sink the whole bill unless Dems went along with their oh-so superior view of morality. So now, abortions, while still legal, are not really allowed, so that Rep. Bart Stupak can brag to all the other idiots at the Knights of Columbus that he made sure that no poor woman could afford an abortion that, if she doesn't take the medieval view of sexuality that the Rep. Stupak does, she doesn't regard as "murder."
I really, really hate this stupid Pope, who has been interfering with American politics since long before he was elected. He's the guy who got American bishops to refuse communion to John Kerry when he was running for president. He should butt the hell out of our politics. - jayjayjoni, on 11/08/2009, -20/+25A fetus is not a human being.
Oh, and just to mention. Much of the bill includes much-needed funding into new technologies and preventive care. This will help lower costs and bring in new cures for diseases. Even without the public option and mandatory coverage, it's a decent bill. - ollersmom, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5wow. wtf.
do people actually believe this *****?? - anotherjack, on 11/08/2009, -3/+8A fetus is a very early stage of development, not at all viable outside the womb, and not a person yet. Later, it might be different from a chicken, but not right now, cuz it's a fetus.
http://course1.winona.edu/sberg/ILLUST/embryo1b.gi ...
Anybody really believe that's a human being, with more rights than a full grown woman? - evilresident, on 11/08/2009, -1/+6I hope you can't defend yourself Lizard.
- stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -3/+8Fetuses are not citizens and therefore not protected by the constitution. U.S. citizenship can ONLY be obtained in one of four ways: 1) BIRTH in the United States or its territories, 2) BIRTH to U.S. citizen parents, 3) naturalization (obtaining citizenship after an application and exam), or 4) naturalization of one's parents (called "derivation" of citizenship).
- IHKumicho, on 11/08/2009, -0/+5This is about the plans that private corporations offer, and Americans pay for with their OWN MONEY. Too bad it's Republicans spinning it as something else...
- CosmicSurfer, on 11/08/2009, -3/+7UNTIL A SINGLE ONE OF YOU SITS WITH A MOTHER WHO WAS FORCED TO GIVE BIRTH TO A CHILD THAT IS LIVING WITH A BRAIN OUTSIDE ITS SKULL-Who knew at 5 months, this child was doomed but could not abort because the law prevents her and the money not there - you then have the RIGHT to TALK ABOUT ABORTION
UNTIL A SINGLE ONE OF YOU SITS WITH A MOTHER WHO WAS FORCED TO GIVE BIRTH TO A CHILD WITH IT'S HEART OUTSIDE A SUNKEN CHEST WITH NO RIB CAGE AND IS EXPECTED TO LOVE AND CARE FOR A CHILD WITH NO HOPE OF LIFE but with the Obscenity of MODERN MEDICINE FOR 5 MILLION BUCKS CAN BE KEPT ALIVE FOR A MONTH BRAINLESS AND ON SUPPORT ONLY...YOU THEN and only THEN can COME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT ABORTION. UNTIL ANY ONE OF YOU SITS WITH THE PARENT OF A TEENAGE GIRL ON LIFE SUPPORT WHO WAS RIPPED TO SHREDS IN A BACK STREET ABORTION...YOU CAN COME TALK TO ME ABOUT ABORTION!
AND ANY ONE OF YOU with balls instead of a vagina? You ain't got a say in it AT ALL! - CosmicSurfer, on 11/08/2009, -0/+4You really are an ageist idiot. MORE people under the age of 50 buying into that ***** than over. We on the left over 50 wrote the book
- stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -1/+5I work for a Catholic Hospital. Employee provided health insurance through our Blue Cross plan does not cover abortions. In fact, my friend was even unable to get birth control covered through the policy.
- CosmicSurfer, on 11/08/2009, -1/+5There is no 100% fail safe against pregnancy except abstinance and being locked in a cell but that is NOT the issue.
The issue is not something that a male in any way shape or form has a right to judge. IT IS a personal and totally private issue between a woman and her conscience.
In cases of any medical difficulty arising from a parasitic growth feeding off a host and that host chooses either consciously or unconsciously to get rid of that parasite, those who claim to provide health care coverage MUST be obligated to pay for that medical procedure. IT is not cosmetic, it is medical and abortion is the law of the land. IT is life threatening..ALL pregnancy is life threatening to an extent and therefore a mandatory procedure when deemed necessary by the woman or the carrier of insurance should be held in violation.
THE day the constitution gets in the way of that is the day this little screwy experiment called the United States of America fails so miserably that it needs to be disbanded or change entirely to what Bush and the Republicans tried to do over 10 years and Reagan started in the 80's....A dictatorship - stonecircle, on 11/08/2009, -0/+4wow - that's the argument I hear all the time at work by my Christian co-workers about Muslims.
- ApokalypseNow, on 11/08/2009, -1/+5@jwquinlan
Ending a life? Who's life? Give me a name of the individual who's life was ended. - sugarazor, on 11/08/2009, -0/+4There are a lot of things I don't wish for my tax money to be spent on (like wars), but that's not really the way our system works. This provision is anti-woman, anti-privacy, and makes it more difficult to get an abortion even with private insurance.
- CosmicSurfer, on 11/08/2009, -0/+4So God came down and wrote a book for you saying that abortion is killing? That is a neat trick. Does God come to visit you regularly for tea and crumpets or is it a shot with a lime?
BOOKS written by arrogant men and put together, rewritten and edited to fit the current social agenda does not equate to GOD writing scripture -
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