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- jbdobd, on 03/26/2008, -3/+97surely he misspoke. while ducking sniper fire.
- cchard, on 03/26/2008, -4/+91After saying that Wright would NEVER be her pastor, it turns out that her pastor SUPPORTS Wright.
Will you denounce him too, Hillary? - ScientistSteve, on 03/26/2008, -7/+42Thank you Rev Snyder for courageously speaking the truth about Rev Wright. Rev Wright is indeed an outstanding church leader who preaches the gospel of Jesus and has been an inspiration to many
- zmedico, on 03/26/2008, -5/+26In case anybody hasn't seem these yet, the following videos illustrate how FOX took short video clips out of context in what seems like an effort to make Rev. Wright look bad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw
There is sweet irony in that FOX's and others' attempts to polarize and divide people seems to be backfiring as more people take the time to analyze Rev. Wrights preachings and come to realize the terrible misrepresentation that has occurred. - motivatedmama, on 03/26/2008, -4/+19Oh wow! Now this is sweet! Apparently Hillary doesn't subscribe to her OWN Pastors views now that she is beating the dead horse of Rev. Wright's association with Obama.
I'm thinking she may have a conflict with some of her Pastors other views too, such as, "thou shalt not bear false witness"!
I can not WAIT to hear her response to this! - actorboy, on 03/26/2008, -1/+15There's no way she could have sat in those pews for so many years without secretly subscribing to this pastor's message of understanding. Clearly, she's not the evil, self-serving politician we all thought.
- Charlotte_Web, on 03/26/2008, -2/+15Text of the PDF:
A STATEMENT CONCERNING THE REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times. He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. He has been a vocal critic of the racism, sexism and homophobia which still tarnish the American dream. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize. This is a critical time in America's history as we seek to repent of our racism. No matter which candidates prevail, let us use this time to listen again to one another and not to distort one another's truth.
Dean J. Snyder, Senior Minister
Foundry United Methodist Church
March 19, 2008 - kwazyhulk, on 03/26/2008, -3/+14ScientistSteve is right. While Rev. Snyder is currently the pastor of the Clinton's old church, he wasn't at the time the Clintons attended. Despite this, his message of support is still powerful and just.
- S3Captain, on 03/26/2008, -0/+9I'm tired of repenting for something that I've never done, or been a part of. This country is in the best shape it has ever been when it comes to race relations, but the race baiters won't ever let you think that way because that is how they make their living. We're all in the bag while they furiously shake it. Let me know when it's over.
Now you may preceed with Digging me down. - ReidFleming, on 03/26/2008, -2/+11Non-pdf link of the text via Democrats.org:
http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/debor ... - DiggLive, on 03/26/2008, -4/+13It's funny how Hillary is trying to bring it back to the spotlight because of her Snipergate. Even McCain and Huckabee support Obama on Wright.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/03/huckabee_join ... - ScientistSteve, on 03/26/2008, -4/+11I have done more looking and now have questions as to whether Snyder was Clinton's pastor. He did not become pastor until 2002 after Bill Clinton's presidency.
- cg4et, on 03/26/2008, -2/+8Mother Jones has an interesting article about Hillary's Bible study group which raises all sorts of questions in light of Hillary's recent comments on Rev. Wright.
http://digg.com/politics/Does_Hillary_have_her_own ... - smotpoker, on 03/26/2008, -0/+6mal is technically correct... even if he is a troll
Wright retired - Pentalaimon, on 03/26/2008, -0/+6Maybe he was tired?
- ahornig, on 03/26/2008, -1/+7Title incorrect: A different minister was there when they attended in the '90's:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/25/212524
....still ironic though - NSMike, on 03/26/2008, -0/+5Sorry for the comment hijack, but
PDF WARNING. - smotpoker, on 03/26/2008, -2/+7Maybe you could direct me to the Gospel that says "Killing millions and letting the hungry starve when you have plenty of money is Christian"
God damned several nations for living in sin and committing atrocities. What makes you think we should ignore/endorse them all and get away with it? Maybe God doesn't like that kinda *****. Maybe God let 9/11 happen to teach us a lesson, not go torturing and murdering hundreds of thousands and oppress our own citizens even further - smotpoker, on 03/26/2008, -3/+7I didn't see any prison bars in that church. Besides, with all of the other political pro-war/anti-muslim BS in churches nationwide at the time, Wright was doing his duty by trying to make sure his own congregation wasn't being lead astray by their hypocritical rhetoric
- inactive, on 03/26/2008, -3/+7Well, if you never heard it, it surely never happened. Good call.
- inactive, on 03/26/2008, -0/+4Dugg UP. (for now anyway). For too long we have been made to feel ashamed for something we had absolutely nothing to do with, and we have paid a price too. A family member trying to get into an open spot as a police office, was turned down soley because affirmative action replaced her spot with a black person. She was qualified in every other way and had the job. And we all know how just horrendous it would be if there were a church that ministered to the "White community"... yet this is absolutely a-ok with folks when it comes to the "Black community". The "N" word is a federal crime for whites, but blacks use it as a compliment. Oh and just imagine the hate mail should a white version of the Black Entertainment Television ever pop up. WE tolerate this. WE let it slide. And then to hear people say that racism is ongoing, and more must be done. What more do people want? Its not JUST black people voting Obama into office - he most certainly couldnt get to where he is if it not for white folks too. White Americans should be proud of what they have accepted and grown past in the last 50 years. And Black Americans hopefully can take a look at how much this country has changed since then. My parents would have never approved of a multi racial marriage - but my spouse and I are like "so what? who cares?". The mindset HAS changed, and we are a better nation for it. Bigotry still exists, but often I find that it exists in those areas of people who are trying to make a living because of it. See Sharpton, Jackson, Farakkan, NAACP, etc.
- inactive, on 03/26/2008, -0/+3Right - So Dean Snyder believes that White people invented aids to wipe out blacks, that 9-11 was a conspiracy and is what America deserves for supporting a UN mandate that Israel will be a separate country It just goes to show you that you don't have to be too smart to be a preacher.
- djelimon, on 03/26/2008, -2/+5lol at the lies about Wright perpetuated even when the full sermons are out. Maybe if you're a mouth-breathig Rush zombie or some such you could find Wrights sermons unpatriotic. But to call them racist having listened to the whole thing is grasping at straws. People, just listen to the sermons and judge for yourself. Don't be lulled into lazy non-critical thinking by listening to a bunch of ditto-heads with an axe to grind. They are just trying to stifle debate and perpetuate the Big Lie. is it racism, political partisanship, or some unholy alliance of both that fuels the smear campaign against Wright? I leave that one for philosophers.
Just listen to the full sermons.
And Wright never said 9-11 was a conspiracy. In the wake of the Tuskegee experiments, many of Wright's generation think government inaction on AIDS has sinister motives. But that is not racist.
Full 9/11 sermon
http://odeo.com/audio/17889043/view
Full God Damn America sermon
http://odeo.com/audio/17890793/view
Expanded "Hillary Clinton" sermon Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciWzbtiwUxA
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvcmqnju9PM
Wright on Farrakhan (ironically relevant, given the vile smear currently being run)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX1y6Q9PYcg - Reaper2806, on 03/26/2008, -2/+5Why? Why must -gate be affixed to every damn scandal that happens now? What purpose does it serve. Did the news networks give up coming up with new sound bites? Let it go people! Let it go!
- scottc, on 03/26/2008, -2/+5Actually, whether they believe it was a misrepresentation or not, it appears that the majority of Americans are able to look beyond, as you say, the "attempts to polarize and divide people". I had expected Obama's poll numbers to drop far more than they did after those videos were so widely and repeatedly broadcast.
That's what makes Obama different than the rest of today's politicians. You don't have to agree with him on everything in order to think that he will be a good president, and you certainly don't have to pay attention to the context of comments made by his supporters. It's just a trivial sideshow, and while it may be fun to debate what those comments meant, they have no relevance on Obama's ability to lead our country. - Charlotte_Web, on 03/26/2008, -0/+3Link is dead; you must have edited your comment.
- hater2win, on 03/26/2008, -0/+3He wasn't tired, he was busy hiding his tax information for the past few years.
- glitchbit, on 03/26/2008, -0/+3Sorry but you must not be listening if you think all the news has is a few sound bites. This guy is full of it through and through. The sad part is, is that some or maybe all that footage the news channels have were passed out on DVD by the church!....
Guess the whole church wants the whole world to know how racist they are. - pintomp3, on 03/26/2008, -1/+4i wonder if this support from snyder will get the same constant replay as the soundbites of wright in the media. i doubt it.
- pintomp3, on 03/26/2008, -1/+4the whole promotional video was only a few seconds long? if not, it can still be out of context.
- sndream, on 03/26/2008, -0/+2If you are tired, think about how the Hispanic feel. Affirmative action actually hurt the Hispanic population, they are being forced to repent for something they they nor did their parents never done.
- JQP123, on 03/26/2008, -3/+5"This is a critical time in America's history as we seek to repent of our racism."
Repent for racism? The Bible is an inspiration for racists and sexists. - Ebulating, on 03/26/2008, -1/+3Dear Dean J Snyder, I wish to inform you that black people can also be racist and that Rev. Wrights paranoid ramblings do nothing to advance the cause of equal rights but rather merely perpetuate the extremely harmful mentality of perpetual victim-hood that is what is really keeping blacks down, and are especially inappropriate when the nation is on the verge of electing a black president. Blacks sincerely need to move on from blaming every failure on white racism when Barack Obama is ample evidence that when blacks choose to participate they can succeed.
- pe5t1lence, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1Dr Wright? Where is Megaman?
- dinot, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1He's just stressed out that his husband got a blowjob from an intern.
- aliengoods, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1PDF Download....it does wonders.
- Bilabrin, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1Perhaps these people are more unbiased than you believe. Perhaps it is the bias of the evidence you dislike, not the judges.
- sndream, on 03/26/2008, -1/+2Did he also send out statement saying Ted Haggard are 100% heterosexual and he should not be attacked for not having meth with a hookers that he did not have sex with?
- arcticblue, on 03/26/2008, -2/+2We know what he meant. Thanks.
- mal1964, on 03/26/2008, -2/+2"If You Tear It Down, They Will Come"
- djelimon, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0"So illustrates that the greatest problem with Jeremiah Wright's "prophecy" is that Blacks are 100% good and Whites are 100% bad. That is not the case. The goodness or badness of people is not related to their skin color."
Nowhere does he say any different in his sermons, in fact he consistently asserts that no one is evil or virtuous because of what colour they are.
"Does not anyone realize that we are all doing the same thing we always do, make excuses for outragous behavior from black people"
The problem here is that there is no outrageous behaviour. Listen to the sermon.
Why is it no one can find anything wrong with the sermons withouth making something up? Oh, that's right, the truth doesn't matter. Well, seems to me God doesn't love bearing false witness, and there's a lot of that being done here. - dd12101, on 03/26/2008, -1/+1Does not anyone realize that we are all doing the same thing we always do, make excuses for outragous behavior from black people. That man Wright is no preacher of Gods words, he preaches his own hate using the bible. I wondered what God will say to him one day...
- Skeptic1488, on 04/18/2008, -0/+0Yes Obama is a racist Mulatto/black separatist. Yes he hates White people. That is natural & the case for most all non-White people especially negroids. White (Caucasoid) people should look out for ONLY our kind as well.
- smotpoker, on 03/26/2008, -2/+2http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/0728 ...
I don't pretend to go to church or have witnessed it much personally/directly, but I have seen some pretty pro-war remarks from televangelists and suggestions that we should "give them the Jihad the are seeking" along with suggestions that 9/11 could be the Armageddon and God is on our side etc
Also my Grandma got some pretty funky anti-muslim ideas somewhere and she pretty much only reads the bible, goes to church and watches televangelists. I'm not even religious so if I managed to catch a couple of glimmers on TV it isn't illogical to assume Wright and many others managed to catch it a bit more than I did - Kyan, on 03/26/2008, -2/+1It's a gate, let it swing.
- arpad, on 03/26/2008, -2/+1Yeah, I'm sure there's some context in which "God damn America" is something other then hateful and divisive. That context would be when preaching to a church full of like-minded America-haters.
- djelimon, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0So obviously none of you guys have listened to the sermons I posted, or you could tell me specifically what was so outrageous, unAmerican, and racist about them. English is a context-sensitive language. "I didn't have sex with that woman" is not the same as "have sex with that woman", even if "all" you did was take a video of me saying the first sentence, and edit out the part where I say "I didn't". Hate to break it to you, but you're looking at slander
- mal1964, on 03/26/2008, -5/+4Obama's former pastor
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