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- magicmarker44, on 07/09/2008, -8/+204Kudos the the ACLU! They SHOULD fight this outrageous bill! Our nation is no longer one of laws, but one of corruption, paranoia and greed... We The People must get off our collective lazy asses and fight and take our country back from these out of control neo-con madmen!
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -10/+157OBAMA=FAIL
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -13/+106Join the ACLU
http://www.aclu.org - cephelo, on 07/09/2008, -7/+89Donations to Obama should be now donated to the ACLU. Our only hope to retain our inalienable rights is through the courts -- we obviously cannot do it through our so-called leaders. Thank you, ACLU.
- venables, on 07/09/2008, -4/+71Today marks yet another victory for Bin Laden and his merry gang of terrorists. They continue to damage our economy, our constitution and our way of life.
- tehbishop, on 07/09/2008, -4/+67What has happened to America?
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -6/+67Suprisingly, Hillary voted against it.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-0 ... - SwordOfShannara, on 07/09/2008, -5/+62You can take action against this here: http://www.accountabilitynowpac.com Strangebedfellows is a right-left coalition that aims to hold these politicians accountable by removing them from office.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -2/+53OBAMA=BACKSTABBER
- JoshuaLowe, on 07/09/2008, -4/+55Fauxbama
- ProjectGSX, on 07/09/2008, -2/+48Obama has been UNFRIENDED. TAKE THAT!
- an0nymous, on 07/09/2008, -2/+44What a disappointment.
Wish he had lived up to his rhetoric. - pkarpenko, on 07/09/2008, -9/+44I can see it now.
1. ACLU files lawsuit.
2. Obama gets elected.
3. Lawsuit snakes its way through the courts.
4. Scalia and Thomas are bitch-slapped to death by the ghost of John Adams.
5. Obama appoints some Justices.
6. Lawsuit goes all the way to the Supreme Court.
7. FISA declared unconstitutional.
8. Obama declares that was his plan all along. - KnightMareInc, on 07/09/2008, -7/+41the 700 club told me that the ACLU are nothing but commies
- urothane, on 07/09/2008, -3/+36Just to be clear for those who don't realize it, Obama did not filibuster this as promised, but instead voted to cloture. That means he voted TO STOP DISCUSSING IT.
I was an Obama supporter, I have now withdrawn my support, but don't know what direction I will go. He is the same as McBush in that he says what he needs to get into office. At least with Billary we knew they were liars. - Pyehole, on 07/09/2008, -8/+39This is exactly why I donate to the ACLU.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -4/+32She does'nt have to worry about "Candidate X is weak on Terror" any more, which is good for her, because she is finally speaking for herself, not living by the Mark Penn polls... Obama on the other hand has got alot of "Candidate X is weak on Terror" ***** to worry about
- pintomp3, on 07/09/2008, -2/+31they defend your right to say that.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -8/+35its time start funding the ACLU
- nedzeve, on 07/09/2008, -3/+29Well, she's not running for president anymore.
- crazyatlantaguy, on 07/09/2008, -5/+31The ACLU challenging this bill is enough to get a donation from me.
- paraforce, on 07/09/2008, -11/+36I was very close to becoming an ACLU member at one time.
Then I realized they only choose to defend the constitutional rights that are convenient to their political position.
The ACLU recognizes all amendments as individual rights, not collective rights... except one. When the organization gets past its irrational fear of the second amendment, I'll become a card carrying member.
But good on them for challenging this FISA garbage. - nomadhacker, on 07/09/2008, -4/+28At least someone's listening
- VicHislop, on 07/09/2008, -2/+27Actually the ACLU holds a meeting every couple of years in D.C. where they discuss and decide their stances on issues. In regard to the Second Amendment, they are completely divided with many feeling that it is an individual right while others countering that it is collective. It's not something done for "convenience" but it is essentially the result of a democratic discussion on the issue.
It really isn't as simple as you make it out to be and it is certainly not a reason to choose not to support the organization. That said, if you want to make a change, why not join them and make your voice heard within the ACLU? Check out their site sometime. It has every position that they currently hold. If you prefer, go to a local office in your area. The have a binder full of hundreds of pages which outlines every position. - VicHislop, on 07/09/2008, -2/+24I like how McCain doesn't even show up to the vote (not that he ever does lately). Now all of the focus is on Obama's missing spine!
- OgonGuitarist, on 07/09/2008, -4/+25FTA:
"...the Senate was expected to President Bush a FISA update Wednesday."
And a new verb is born!
President Bush: (verb)
1. To circumvent constitutional law.
2. To ***** a person or nation in the ass.
Merriam: Were you going to give me a reach around after President Bushing me, Webster? - inactive, on 07/09/2008, -1/+21Then they asked you for a donation to help you get into heaven...
- highlymodified, on 07/09/2008, -2/+21Dugg for the famous "Ghost of John Adams Bitch Slap O' Death"
- Ratteler, on 07/09/2008, -2/+20It's time to reform the Minute Men.
- an0nymous, on 07/09/2008, -3/+20I donate to the ACLU , the EFF, and the NRA.
ANY defense of your rights is a good thing. - WatchDoit, on 07/09/2008, -5/+21I was getting discouraged with all this talk about our civil liberties being infringed upon, but now I know that this wonderful country still has amazing people who will fight for our rights. Thank you ACLU!
- enki25, on 07/09/2008, -1/+16FACT: When copying and pasting a wall of words, it's important to cite your source. Otherwise people may think you're a bot or a retard.
- Rapheal99, on 07/09/2008, -2/+17they should challenge this in everyway possible. because even if they lose, it wil still show the rest of the world that not all of aerica has its head shoved its ass being scared of "the terrorists". also in the event that they win, it wil be a major blow to the right wing neo conservatives (and it appears the current "democrats") by showing them that they cannot bully everybody into doing what they want anymore.
- pintomp3, on 07/09/2008, -3/+17the ACLU has defended christian organization and the KKK:
http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/ - inactive, on 07/09/2008, -1/+14Well said. Bush and company have been their greatest accomplices.
- supersirj, on 07/10/2008, -2/+15http://my.barackobama.com/page/unsubscribe/
- FredFredrickson, on 07/09/2008, -7/+20And that, folks, is why the ACLU is, and has always been, on our side. They protect our civil liberties.
- cnot3, on 07/09/2008, -1/+14If the ghost of John Adams came back, he would have to do a whole mess of bitch slapping before working his way down to Scalia and Thomas.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/09/2008, -1/+14Our only hope is Obama is a closet Liberal, and has been rolling in mud trying to get elected to the Hog House.
Some lawsuit by the ACLU will not stop this -- sorry to say.
Only by getting each and every politician fired who signed that bill can we make headway. A long process. I'm going to make a poster out of the Yeahs and Nays so that I don't forget. - pgoetz, on 07/09/2008, -0/+13I think we got caught in the middle of a paradigm shift, which created a window of opportunity for the neocons, who are essentially modern day fascists. Science and history are giving monotheism a beating, crushing long cherished beliefs in the big tooth fairy in the sky, while gay rights etc. are further upsetting the societal apple cart. As observed by both Schopenhauer and Gandhi, violent opposition is always the final stage before acceptance as self-evident, and the violent opposition in this case is a largish minority of Americans willing to put these neocons into power based on promises of a restoration of the good old days, family values, etc.. All lies, of course, but the evangelicals and conservative values-minded have realized too late that they were duped by the warmongers and profiteers. A sad story, really, and not terribly dissimilar from what happened in Germany in the 1930s.
- Ansible, on 07/09/2008, -0/+13Bull. Osama is just the excuse du jour. There are forces within this country that want to turn it into a corporate police state.
- BattleChimp, on 07/09/2008, -2/+14Ron Paul isn't mentioned at all in this article, you ***** douche bag.
- VicHislop, on 07/09/2008, -2/+13Eh, they're both frauds.
- diggduggDOOM, on 07/09/2008, -0/+11Apathy.
- Rocketman1882, on 07/09/2008, -0/+11Controlled media, long ago.
- jaxcs, on 07/09/2008, -0/+11As a poster, you should share your ideas. If your ideas are exactly the same as another source, then summarize and then cite your source. (yeah, I don't think anyone thinks these are your own words.)
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