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- rockon4life45, on 10/24/2008, -4/+247Exactly how did we miss this little detail again?
- buddyw, on 10/24/2008, -4/+182We have crossed so many lines - cameras monitoring the public - warrantless wiretaps - the list goes on - it seems that no one cares. What does it take to wake people up, or will they ever wake up?
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -2/+122I'm sure if you ever got pulled over and federal agents said they were going to search you or your car, showing them your handy iPhone US Constitution would definitely show them the misguided nature of their ways.
- funk13, on 10/24/2008, -5/+100Oddly enough, a friend of the family just got stopped in Buffalo by a border patrol car for a loud muffler, not a fart can but just old and needing replacement. I thought it strange at the time, mostly because I didn't think that they had a right to do that, but after reading this, I really wonder what they were doing and their reason for stopping him. He is Italian and looks the part of a Mediterranean man with a beard, which in some instances, at night, can be mistaken for Middle Eastern (trust me, I hate to put something like this in these terms, but I think it necessary to explain it in these terms for the sole reason of knowing and understanding their techniques). There was no problem and he was told to go on his way, but it still makes one wonder who is watching the things we do and how it may implicate us in the future.
That being said, as a Sicilian in the same situation as my friend that was stopped, I have to think twice about growing my winter beard so as to not look like someone that they may be profiling, not that I have anything to hide.... - FallenTurtles, on 10/24/2008, -2/+89In vault's defense, I hate civil liberties too. They cause me nothing but oppression-free trouble.
- willster580, on 10/24/2008, -5/+81Everyone knows freedom and rights is just slang for American flags, NASCAR, and F-250's.
- TekTrixter, on 10/24/2008, -1/+68Aren't international airports considered "borders"? If they are then many more areas would be effected.
- sliksta, on 10/24/2008, -3/+66Actually it seems the entire country is Constitution-free nowadays. We don't have rights anymore. The government just legislates them away.
- Subacious, on 10/24/2008, -2/+61Too busy focusing on upside down dogs. And tazers.
- sugarazor, on 10/25/2008, -2/+56Well, it's because Republicans aren't Republicans anymore, they're Neocons. Oh sure, you can have a couple true Republicans running around, but if you want to join the big boys and get in the White House, you gotta play by Neocon rules... just ask John McCain.
- 10lbhammer, on 10/24/2008, -5/+59WOW AWESOME COMMENT
- FallenTurtles, on 10/24/2008, -1/+54Poor Michigan, they got screwed.
- Bith8654, on 10/24/2008, -1/+54LorakJad is right, it doesn't really work that way. Say a cop wants to arrest you for something you know isn't against the law, you could have the laptop with your state laws pulled up on the states official website, proving to the cop that he is wrong, but if the cop still wants to arrest you, he will and there is nothing you can do about it. Until you take it to court, the cop's word is law, regardless of what the law really is.
Oh and that's for a situation when you aren't breaking the law. In this situation, even though the laws clearly defy the constitution, those laws are still in place, which would make it even harder for you to win. - D3IM0S, on 10/24/2008, -8/+60It's for situations like this that I keep a copy of the US Constitution on my iPhone... always essential to know your rights.
- pintomp3, on 10/24/2008, -1/+50it amazes me that idiots like vault consider it patriotic to be against civil liberties. despite what people like limbaugh, o'rielly, and hannity would have you believe, the ACLU fights to protect people's civil liberties. they have even fought on behalf of conservative groups like the KKK and other christian groups.
- catbeller, on 10/24/2008, -0/+46Just noticed this morning: "they" have now installed cameras in Chicago on every light pole on a major intersection I was crossing. This is important because years back, Da Mayer said that cameras would only be installed in high crime locations, and would be marked with flashing blue lights. Now they are just appearing without notice everywhere. And let's not talk about the red light cameras that are being installed at breakneck speed. We've been screwed again; they boiled the frogs once again. We are now in a police state.
Betcha the top cop and the Mayor don't have cameras on the corners by their houses. - DemiRonin, on 10/25/2008, -0/+43Must move to more squarish states
- TSK05, on 10/25/2008, -5/+47I may be a Republican, and voting for McCain, but I'm also an ACLU member and this is concerning.
I never really got why Republicans don't like ACLU.. they're a group focused on preserving constitutional rights, including free speech. True conservatives are for small government and for preservation of rights..the two go along, the bigger the government, the more chance it will violate your rights. [Responses like "because Republicans are crooks" expected.] - LemonHerb, on 10/24/2008, -1/+43Damn it, I am in a constitution free zone.
- bigbangbuddha, on 10/26/2008, -1/+41"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin.
Frankly I'm with Ben on this one. The founding fathers put the clause in the 4th amendment because they understood the real need for border security. But by no means though did they intend the government to play games with what the word "border" means. They only added that clause to allow searches upon 'reentry' into the US by anyone (citizen or not), this is 100% necessary for any country to exist and maintain safety and order. The abuse of this power within our borders though is a clear violation of the constitution and must be rescinded . If you feel your rights to privacy are being violated do not comply under any means, it is far better than the alternative, don't let the lawyers play semantics with our constitution, they know very well what it means. - inactive, on 10/24/2008, -2/+38Checkpoints are bad not because anything the constitution says, but because they're an attack to the privacy of the citizenry. Common sense.
- catbeller, on 10/24/2008, -0/+32Here's a freebee tip: install a bank of infrared LEDs around your license plates, and around your face on the windshield. If the cameras lack infrared filters, the images are nothing but glare.
IR LEDs on cars and hats to be illegal in 3,2,1... - neurobox, on 10/24/2008, -1/+32Nice deal.. You get arrested for resisting, and your laptop gets searched and confiscated because you have constitutional extremist radical propaganda on it.
- pintomp3, on 10/25/2008, -1/+31NWO: there are plenty of powerful groups, including the NRA that fights for the 2nd amendment. how many are fighting for the 1st? btw, the constitution doesn't grant rights, it recognizes them as inalienable. that means it applies to everyone.
- DrummerAndrew, on 10/25/2008, -7/+37*affected
- neurobox, on 10/24/2008, -10/+39Constitution Party.. there's a reason RP endorses Baldwin...
- appleofdischord, on 10/24/2008, -0/+28Red light cameras are only there to make money for the city.
Bastards. - SirKilledAlot55, on 10/25/2008, -0/+27Great now I'm even more paranoid. Screw this I'm going to mars
- pintomp3, on 10/25/2008, -1/+28vault: don't pop a blood vessel while you read this:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/may/22.64 ... - stonecircle, on 06/11/2009, -1/+27The entire state of Michigan is in this zone! YIKES!
- gbates31, on 10/26/2008, -2/+26No, you have it wrong. The real meaning of freedom is "the unrestricted ability to choose from a wide variety of items at WalMart."
Any other interpretation is just some crackpot conspiracy theory. - MariusAgricola, on 10/24/2008, -1/+24I hadn't really thought about these checkpoints, but there was always one just up the road from El Paso, heading North, built there as a permanent fixture.
- catbeller, on 10/24/2008, -0/+22Um, you need to read more. The ACLU cares about everything. They are, however, more than stretched past their limits. Come on, think of all that's happened. We're lucky they can deal with even a percent of what's gone down. They've been all alone out there for seven years.
Thanks for the digg. - jonlarge, on 10/24/2008, -1/+20sucks to live in Florida
- ChaSchva, on 10/24/2008, -1/+20So is 2/3 of America, apparently...
- Codename46, on 10/26/2008, -2/+19How the ***** is Ron Paul a Theocrat?
- inactive, on 10/26/2008, -2/+17Did you know that "illegal searches" are covered under the Fourth Amendment to the... oh, what's that document... oh, right, the Constitution?
- DrummerAndrew, on 10/25/2008, -3/+18Thanks to people like GWB and his cronies. Look at what Bloomberg is trying to do in NYC. He wants to change the law so he can stay mayor, and he's going to get away with it! Like the article says, people won't do anything about it until it's too late.
- Bith8654, on 10/25/2008, -0/+14You're probably right neurobox, welcome to the U.S. Justice System. But what I'm curious about is who dugg me down, is there someone who would argue I'm wrong? I would love to learn how to resist arrest without getting in even more trouble.
- TheGuruStud, on 10/26/2008, -0/+14^^ Shut the ***** up. Cops will lie to your face and do w/e they please. Not only have I seen it enough in videos, I got a ticket that way. He said I ran a red light b/c his side was green. I said, "That's funny, b/c it was yellow when I went under it". There's no way in hell he had a green light if mine was still yellow. And the lights weren't ***** up.
Most are ***** losers.
Take a drive through the St. John area in St. Louis. EVERYONE gets yanked there for nothing. Prepare to have hundreds of free dollars b/c they'll fine you for everything you're worth.
I haven't had a problem with state rods, though, they're pretty cool, but city cops are douche bags. - thereisnostate, on 10/26/2008, -0/+14The slaves keep the other slaves down.
- inactive, on 10/26/2008, -0/+13"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
Care to point out that exception? - Vektuz, on 10/26/2008, -0/+13Too busy focusing on important issues like banning teh gay
- gbates31, on 10/26/2008, -0/+13The main reason that the government has gotten away with things so far is because their methods haven't actually reached the level of confrontation to provoke a reaction from the public. If some guy in a government uniform took money out of my wallet, I'd be mad. But the same result can be achieved by Congress allocating money that it doesn't have. If dishonest methods can be concealed, they are less likely to be objected to.
- TSK05, on 10/25/2008, -0/+13I agree, they do pick and choose but they aren't an unlimited resource organization. With membership increasing almost exponentially since 9/11, maybe we'll see them tackle other issues.
- DrummerAndrew, on 10/25/2008, -0/+13Never a truer word spoken.
- RogerStrong, on 10/25/2008, -0/+13Canada is negotiating a "deep integration" with the EU. More than a free trade deal, it'll allow the free movement of workers between the EU and Canada.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomme ...
No doubt the usual politicians will freak out and demand the same checkstops and other measures in the north that the US has near it's southern border. - falstaff, on 10/26/2008, -3/+16FTA: "The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution contains a border-related exception to unreasonable search and seizure laws, "
4th: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
We must have missed that little detail because it was apparently written in invisible ink. - StateTheObvious, on 10/26/2008, -1/+13What country is the ACLU living in? 100% of the US is a Constitution free zone. For over 200 years it was unconstitutional to stop any person without reason to believe that person had committed a crime. Today, they set up road blocks to see if you are DUI, or have your seatbelt fastened, guilty until you prove your innocence. The US of today resembles the USSR.
Free country my ass. - joeyjj, on 10/26/2008, -0/+12I'm surprised you were able to figure out how to use the internet.
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