228 Comments
- rhinocero, on 10/12/2007, -41/+272That's because Digg is not an accurate measure of public opinion or political power!
Seriously, look at the numbers. A large story on digg will get 1000 diggs. The largest story during the key thing got like 20,000. That's only a drop in the bucket in the American electoral system, especially spread across the country.
The mainstream media reports on things of interest to the public at large. Digg is not the public at large. - inactive, on 11/05/2007, -52/+195I say ***** the mainstream media because Ron Paul is no where to be seen in any news report even though he is #1 on Digg. ***** the mainstream media paid off lame pricks.
- acex23, on 10/12/2007, -6/+144I'm missing the part where abc admitted they were wrong. anyone have a better link?
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -21/+154the thing that pisses me off the most is that NO media news is saying anything about ABCs major *****. It's just this courttv website, regedit, and of course, digg.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=ron+paul+poll&btnG=Search - jmpeagle, on 11/05/2007, -8/+127who is this Ron Paul? I wish more stories would reach the front page about him.
- ckSubs, on 10/12/2007, -8/+106""But I still don't see Mike Gravel on this list.""
He's a Democrat you retard. - suckfone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+80Nothing quite like sarcasm gone completely unnoticed.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -25/+78The Ron Paul media blackout is just another fine example of who the real terrorists are. Its time to boycott the corporations than want to dictate what is "news" worthy and what is not. The corporations own these "news" networks and their affiliates.
American democracy has been hi-jacked by the unbridled corporations. People who only rely on American television for their news coverage are the same people most likely to eat their own feces.
Its gotten pretty pathetic when a society of otherwise intelligent people have to rely on comedians to get any kind of facts these days. - thecoolestguy, on 10/12/2007, -41/+93I agree that Digg only represents a small percentage of the population at large, but it is a representative sample that reflects people's sentiments. I think people are finally catching on that there is a CONSPIRACY to control the public through big media. These f.uckers need to be hit again and again with these kinds of stories until they're exposed for the shills that they are.
- ckSubs, on 10/12/2007, -14/+58""I agree that Digg only represents a small percentage of the population at large, but it is a representative sample that reflects people's sentiments.""
Sorry, but no it's not. It's a representative sample of computer nerds and 20-somethings. Neither win elections. - goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -5/+49"but after a flood of complaints, they were forced admit that they lied and include him in the poll"
And then a link to a discussion board asking people to go to ABC and complain? Where did ABC admit they lied? Amazing how many people are willing to dig up a completely false description that links to more or less nothing. Buried as inaccurate. - Flashman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48It's funny how pure democracy often represents mob rule.
- abanana, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41There is a really good documentary on how major networks manipulate interviews and debates, etc, to create the "news". This guy watched a bunch of live satellite feed during the 92 election and compiled a nice amount of footage on how the media systematically discriminated against certain candidates to keep them out of the spotlight. I wish i could think of the name of the doc but it reminds me a lot of what is happening to Ron Paul.
- robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34> I agree that Digg only represents a small percentage of the population at large,
> but it is a representative sample that reflects people's sentiments.
Never done any polling or statistics work, I take it? Digg is almost entirely a self-selecting group. Talk to anyone who works in polling or deals with stats. They'll tell that you that that is one of the worst pools to survey as you get wildly skewed viewpoints that utterly do not reflect widespread opinion.
Honestly, do you think Digg's enormous interest in the AACS key is representative of widespread opinion? I have yet to meet anyone in real life who even knows about it. - theelocust, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32So thats owned nowadays, posting on a forum. Damn I think i just owned.
- Sendss, on 11/05/2007, -5/+31Democracy is alive and well on Digg.
- jmpeagle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27@ice
I actually know who Ron Paul is ...I suscribe to his Youtube channel. I just find it funny that he seems to constantly be on the front page. - inactive, on 10/13/2007, -16/+36Why are Ron Paul advocates suddenly being dugg down?
Strange...
RON PAUL FOR THE WIN! - Flashman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22@abanana, you're thinking of the documentary "Spin" by Brian Singer. Watch it here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353
It's worth watching, if for no other reason than to get a look at the surreal backlot operations surrounding the media and politicians. And how a lack of media coverage can effectively kill a campaign. - emjaymj, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3133938&page=1
Please go to the page and leave a vote for Ron Paul or whoever your favorite candidate may be. - Bleachers7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Ron Paul is one of the most articulate and authentic people running this year. Mike Gravel is a little eccentric, but he's a former SENATOR with a lot of valid points. Why do ABC or any other mass media get to decide who's credible? I say they don't.
- thecoolestguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The chance he has of winning depends entirely on the amount of support he gets, and that my friend, is up to regular people to decide.
- flohoff60, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12The major media is losing ground in America the people watching are less everyday. Turn the Television
OFF. This will hurt them more than a digg. They won't get advertizing dollars from the Drug pushers if
they don't have viewership. - brettt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13if the mob would only actually do something. diggers need to promote VOTING at the time of the primaries and presidential election. popular submitters: heed this. Make sure and convince people to vote with your clout, see if digg can actually change the course of history by swaying the election. would be nice, and totally fix the system... power to the people...
- cyn0sure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12For those diggers who are not or have not taken any poli-sci courses, here is a direct quote from a American government textbook:
"The communications media are among the most powerful forces in the marketplace of ideas. The mass media are NOT simply neutral messangers for ideas developed by others. Instead, the media have an enormous effect on popular attitudes and opinions. Over time, the ways in which the mass media report political events help shape the underlying attitudes and beliefs from which opinions emerge."
Emphasis is mine. - thecoolestguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Ron Paul is totally against government regulation of anything, particularly the media. What we need is for the people to reject bullsht media like ABC.
- robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16I love when people on sites like Digg or Fark or Slashdot get an exaggerated sense of the site's influence. Time to get outside and see the big world out there, 99.9% of which doesn't give half-a-***** about Digg or how many people click that little "digg" emblem.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Because we don't want to put up with this ***** for 18 months. You ***** are giving us Paul/Gravel fatigue with all of this inane spamming. Stop complaining about the media and how you can't game internet polls and go create your own media system like the left has done for years with blogs. Get some organization together and some actual money to run a campaign. Spamming Digg is only going to alienate the very small portion of the population that even knows who these people are.
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16By design and mob rule always favour totalitarianism... That's why one has a republic and not a democracy.
In a democracy the two wolfs and a sheep voteing for dinner would eat the sheep. In a republic the sheep would have a gun to protect his equal rights as any other individual! - iupetre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Mainstream media still doesn't fully recognize Digg. We must teach them.
- KChambers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Just make sure to be unbiased when telling people to vote, nothing makes me more sick that voting campaigns that are tied to a specific candidate/party. If you really care about the democratic process you want as many people involved, regardless of their affiliation.
- Slist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14That's not the point.... and it's not the reason why he should be excluded from an online poll. He might have no chances of winning, but you have to agree that it's unfair, undemocratic and unjournalistic to ignore him as a candidate.
- LeeSoong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Ron Paul got my Vote!
Reinstate the Constitution and restore the Republic NOW! - storm8956, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I like Ron Paul alright, but I kind of wish the poll results didn't look like ABC News just got mobbed.
- BananaGrabber, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15All they did is add him to the poll. How does that equate to "forced admit that they lied?" Marked as inaccurate.
- cliffy2000, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Yeah, that's why the media spends all of its time covering the war, instead of frivolous things like Anna Nicole Smith and the Imus scandal. There's a lot of money to be made in war coverage!
- gr3i, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Digg isn't a democracy. It is constantly open to manipulation by interested parties in an even more direct manor than most elected governments.
Infact, I'd go far as to say that the comment system on Digg is the epitome of mob rule. The default view of any story is to hide comments with a rating of -5 diggs or lower. This easily allows users to gang up on people with a different opinion and essentially prevent their views or at least reduce the likelihood of those views from being visible to the majority of users (that haven't changed their settings).
You'd have to be pretty idealistic or naive to believe that anything on the internet can emulate democracy in a meaningful way. - slaytanic213, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Moderator: OK. Let me ask you a question regarding immigration. One of our prized guests here today, Governor Schwarzenegger -- looking this man in the eye, answer this question -- I'm going to go down the line, starting with Governor Romney.
Should we change our Constitution, which we believe is divinely inspired...
(Laughter)
... to allow men like Mel Martinez, the chairman of your party, born in Cuba, great patriot, the senator from Florida, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, to stand here some night?
Paul: I'm a no, because I am a strong supporter of the original intent.
Moderator: Oh, God.
Oh, God. what? piss matthews!
Oh, God. what, JERK OFF!
Dr. Ron Paul 2008! - thecoolestguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I don't know, I think it depends. IOW whether it is big powers that determine who has a chance or whether it is the merits of the policies a candidate is proposing, is still up on the air. The internet means it's a whole new ball game.
- slaytanic213, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11ABC poll leaves out Ron Paul but includes people not even running!
http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=acfbb6dc8ab471136cb470c58ce41d01&threadid=297134
That site is getting a lot of reads too.
Over 16K hits and still climbing, might go "nu·cle·ar."
If digg drops this I will quit digg forever.
Dr. Ron Paul 2008! - inrain, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Yahoo is screwing the public too. All of the major "news" outlets are (Yahoo, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, etc.). These outlets put America to shame. No actual candidate should be silenced, especially in something as serious as a presidential race. It's a disgrace to everything we supposedly "fight for" as a country.
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Please Digg to Stop Yahoo:
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NOTE: This was originally posted just for Mike Gravel but please apply it to all who might be missing (Ron Paul, etc.)
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Yahoo_Where_s_Mike_Gravel - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The media is crap!!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@cliffy
Some big media is owned by defense contractors(GE/Westinghouse). And those that are not are owned by giant corporations that often are trying to get some type of legislation passed, so they tend to try to play nice with those in power in government. - Prince373, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15@ rhinocero
Digg is not an accurate reflection of public opinion, but 1000 diggs =/= 1000 views. It's actually more like a million views, which are well worth fighting for for any candidate.
Old numbers, but maybe still accurate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digg_effect#Extent - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Yeah...because Digg really represents a significant portion of ABC's traffic. Oh wait...no it doesn't. It is MEANINGLESS to them
Honestly...time to come back to planet earth and realize that outside of Digg, NO ONE cares ABOUT Digg. - Sendss, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15The Corporate media seems to think they get to pick our candidates for us. Unfortunately in the past our options have always have to choose between worse and worser.
It's time we took our democracy back! - thecoolestguy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Ron Paul is a whole nother creature. He's a gem.
- Pssdoff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12It is up us to spread the word to those who do not use Digg. Tells your friends, tell your neighbors, and especially tell your grandmother. Its time to stop this bullsh*t! I will not let the corporate media steal this election too.
RON PAUL in 2008!!! - Mudcrutch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7ha:
"who the heck is reading this thread - over 20,000 views since last night.
????" - Infinite84, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Ron Paul will legalize weed & voted no for the war & for funding it every time so ***** Joe Biden.
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