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- wattznext, on 10/10/2007, -7/+28Because if there's a reliable, scientific poll that truly represents the cross section of American opinions, it's been conducted by some schmuck on facebook...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -10/+27great, a poll from facebook, that completely proves that it was an inside job to me...
/sarcasm - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -12/+28Buried for inaccuracy and lameness.
He does not say what the question was, how he got his sample group, or if his sample group is truly random.
Judging from his website he is definitely anti-Bush, so his results are immediately suspect.
I would lay good money that tainted sampling and possibly biased question(s) are behind the result that supports his beliefs. - Coven, on 10/10/2007, -10/+24Ok. I know the official story is ***** too, but a Facebook poll of 500 people hardly indicates "more than half of all New Yorkers" think anything.
- mastercheif, on 10/10/2007, -9/+21Wow, it looks like south park was wrong!!! More than a quarter of America is retarded!!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11So....Who did the Madrid Train bombing....The Bali Bombing.....The 7/7 London Bombing....????
- GabeKungFu, on 10/10/2007, -10/+20Pfft, I'm not surprised! I'm a New Yorker, and I know how I would answer...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10For the haters and trolls...
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According to a new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11:
"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
Telling the truth 16%
Hiding something 53%
Mostly lying 28%
Not sure 3%"
Source : http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/13469 - dontspamjay, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9There is no better way to prove a point than by citing a non-scientific social networking poll.
- imgstacke, on 10/10/2007, -0/+735+ are of the generations of Iran-Contra, Watergate, Vietnam, RFK, JFK.
Those since, the newer generation haven't a ***** clue as to what is going on and depend on MSM to tell them what to think about. - pierrerdy4actn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Those of you who think 9/11 events are trivially simple... tell me what happened to WTC7. But if you couldn't explain -- and I know that you can't -- please wake up and look at the so-called conspiracy evidence .
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair - mstoneburner, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11It's a *****, badly worded poll, too. Don't forget that.
- slopartdotcom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5sadly: when you say AlQaeda, you're talking about agents of our own foreign policy.
look into the School of the Americas and Operation Northwoods, then consider the drills that were happening that day.
Why would Rice say we couldn't have imagined that kind of attack? Why would Chomsky say he doesn't care if it was our govt. playing a role in the attacks? This is not a left-right issue.. it's a justice issue.
Who did it? Don't you care to find out? Why were we supposed to believe the first thing we heard? Just like the announcement by Fox that Bush won Florida in 2000. The people know better, but the press is mostly cowed.
The Bushes have a history of dealing with Deathdealers.... see who invested in W's oil company, see Prescott..who was part of the machine that enabled Hitler, etc.
They started Iraq for his legacy... why does doing 9/11 seem so extreme compared to that? - iwastheren05, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11You ***** morons need to go back to watching the xfiles.. if you dont believe al qaeda is to blame, then I hope an anvil falls on your head.
- spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8no there is a problem, and a lot of people knew it before loose change (which is quite bad btw) even came out.
- pierrerdy4actn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Oh thank you for enlightening me! Let's believe that the fact that WTC7 was "hit" by the debris from WTC7 1 and 2, and the long standing fire was enough to bring down the building in free-fall speed... and the fact that the fire department knew that it is gona collapse, and BBC reported its collapse more than 20 minutes before it happened are just small anomalies that we don't need to worry about. Hummm, and the squibs and the kink on the floor that you see before the collapse are also unimportant facts. Ok, now it makes some more sense. Oh... what about the pools of molten metal under the builing staying there for several weeks? hummm... we can assume it was never there haha!
Now it makes sense a little better. But wait! why NIST hasn't finished their study results for the collapse of WTC7 yet after 6 years? We can still believe it wasn't really important to them to hurry too mush. Of course there are more important things for NIST to do!
Thank you Hotman! now I understand things better!
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." Galileo Galilei - slopartdotcom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah !! Anyone Anti-Bush has clearly lost it!
I love torture and Operation Northwoods-style terror!
Thanks PNAC! Where's my stormtrooper suit? - Coven, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6AP and Gallop don't use Facebook, which is the point I am trying to make. AP and Gallop also conduct their polls scientifically, getting a wide cross section of New York voters of all demographics, which is nearly impossible on Facebook because Facebook users do not represent an accurate cross section of New Yorkers.
- spudnic, on 10/10/2007, -7/+11'Y' is a letter, 'why' is a word. Why must I write like a moron?
1000 lines, on my desk first thing tomorrow morning, or two weeks detention. - Coven, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Even so. In the description of the article you claim that "more than half of all New Yorkers..."
500 people on Facebook are NOT an indication of what ALL New Yorkers think. That is why I, and undoubtedly others, have buried this story as inaccurate. - tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -8/+12Actually, it isn't *****. The official story is pretty much the truth. The only problem is that these stupid clowns throw so much ***** out there, they confuse the issue and leave you thinking something's wrong, when really there is no problem.
- slopartdotcom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Blowback was believable for me too, until I looked into the facts... the wargames, the Condi Rice lie that they couln't have imagined that kind of attack, and on and on.
http://www.911truth.org already - pandira, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5We sold the steel that the Japanese used to build the planes they brought to Pearl Harbor, and yes, FDR knew it was going to happen. They were ready to capitulate when we dropped the Big Boy and the Little Boy. American banks were found to have financed the Nazi Regime, and American companies helped them with their technology. Ford built the largest truck factory in the world for the Soviets during the cold war and they used it to manufacture tanks and carriers used against our troops in Viet Nam. American companies supplied Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction, and April Glaspie practically invited Saddam to invade Kuwait, while Kuwait used lateral drilling techniques in order to drill Iraq's oil out from under them. Do the research and find out who supplied the bomb for WTC 93. You might begin to see a pattern. Everyone should read War is a Racket, by Smedley Butler http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
and Billions for the Bankers, by Sheldon Emery
http://www.justiceplus.org/bankers.htm
Study real history and you might not trust all of what you're told by government and media. - LucidOne, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No, actually the "official" story IS a bunch of *****! I've spent three years doing extensive research on the attacks and not only is the official story ridiculous it's down right impossible!
- Virak, on 10/10/2007, -11/+14How is this news? It's already quite well known that most people are ***** idiots, and if you choose the right ones, you can make them look even stupider.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"First off WTC7 was hit by lots of debri from the world trade centers"
*****.
"Secondly it was on fire for more than 8 hours do to the fact that 1 it was totally abondened and 2 fire fighters had bigger problems on there at the time. The fires in the world trade centers so there was nothing being done to prevent the building from falling."
***** - Coven, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9According to his data his poll included nobody over the age of 49. There goes the random factor. Bush/Cheney accounted for only 38% of those polled, while "I just don't know" accounted for 16%. He conveniently lumps in the "Don't Knows" with the Bush/Cheneys to pad the numbers a bit. "I don't know" doesn't mean they are against the official story. It means exactly what it sounds like. It is like answering "No opinion" or "Insufficient data". Again, I personally do not believe the official story. But this poll really does not help out the truth movement.
- themastersb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Many people are conceited and think terrorists = muslims so he should have just said "Who do you think was responsible for the attacks on 9/11?"
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4seems pretty simple to me, hire a group of terrorists and give em a plan... then the weekend before plant explosions with a sercret militiary or private military to install the bombs..... whats complicated about that? seems tougher for osama to do it
- thirdman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5And you obviously don't get sarcasm...
- Coven, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4To be fair there were people up to age 49 included in his polling data. That still leaves out a HUGE chunk of the population of New York, namely the Baby Boomers and the remnants of the Greatest Generation.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Ok, that's it. Just spell out the ***** word, bbrodsky. It's two more letters and they're right over by the u.
- Millsley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Alright, this may look long, but it's really just a bunch of quotes from our Founding Fathers and some other great minds that are trying to tell you what's up. Take 5 minutes and read them all before you post. They knew what was going to go down hundreds of years ago. We're here now, and I hope you don't continue to let this happen.
To start, I'd just like to note. ***** LOOSE CHANGE - not all the 9/11 theory videos were made by kids in their basements with tinfoil hats blah blah blah etc etc etc. The only reason the mainstream media gives that one attention is because of how easy it is to dismiss. If you want some physics, videos with the news showing hundreds of people saying there were secondary explosions, or 600+ professional opinions...
http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoXQWiSlM
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Yes, the towers were blown up. No, it wasn't terrorists, and NO it wasn't our government. It's some people with money that want to make more via endless warfare. When the Cold War ended, they needed another endless(ly profitable) war. Terrorism can never be eradicated, and the idea that we're somehow stopping its reign by killing nearly half a million civilians and pissing off their friends is insane. There had to be a few key players in the government for the fraud to look legit, but the real people we should be investigating are oil and military corporations. Maybe even the media, because they are dead-set on disproving the 9/11 theories. Not one mainstream media outlet has sided with us.
The US has had the world's biggest defense budget since WW1, about when....
"In March, 1915, the J. P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press ... They found it was necessary to purchase the control of only 25 of the greatest papers. An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."
- U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
President Woodrow Wilson admitted that his foreknowledge of the Lusitania being sunk had given him "many sleepless nights". The German embassy attempted to print ads in 50 newspapers warning Americans not to board the Lusitania. The US State Department threatened the newspapers with libel suits and all except one ran the ad on the specified date. Since then, we've been satiated with a good, expensive war almost every dozen years, and since WW2, multiple mini-operations.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/uswars.htm
Look at this on a timeline. WW1 to WW2 - 1 small operation in between. WW2 to Now, nearly 25. Yeah yeah, part of the time we were in the Great Depression, but we used war to get out of it, and that was the one time period we never fought any. Here's a short list of quotes that detail exactly the situation we are in today.
“If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” – James Madison
"A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side."
Aristotle
"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
—Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back, 1976 (IE - making people believe that Muslims can suspend the laws of physics for a day)
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.
— U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864 (letter to Col. William F. Elkins) Ref: “The Lincoln Encyclopedia”, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)
Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (administrations), too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery.
- Thomas Jefferson
"I hope we shall crush... in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country”
- Thomas Jefferson
If you want to know how and when this started, let's head back to 1913. Happens to be when we created an amendment contrary to the original Constitution allowing a federal income tax (and an endless supply of federal cash)
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks ... will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
- Thomas Jefferson, hundreds of years before the Federal Reserve Act of 1913
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world—no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
- President Woodrow Wilson, on the Federal Reserve Act, passed during his term
“I am concerned for the security of our great nation, not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.”
- General Douglas MacArthur
Take a look at the words of some of the bankers themselves. Even scarier than listening to Bush speak.
“There is no more direct way to capture control of a nation than through its credit system.”
- Mr. Phillip A. Benson, President of the American Bankers’ Association, June 8 1939
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws."
- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
“This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.”
- Sir Denison Miller
"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power."
--Benito Mussolini
This ***** is in the Biblical apocalypse, man.
"And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy MERCHANTS were the GREAT MEN of the earth; for by thy sorceries were ALL NATIONS DECEIVED."
- Revelations 18:23
I mean, not to sound too crazy or anything, but I mean, seriously, look at the ***** going on in the world. I thought we were more intelligent than animals? People better start looking at REAL history, and applying its lessons to TODAY, right NOW, or we're going to go through the history these money-grubbing ***** have planned out for us. Hint: it's gonna suck.
"The Money Power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy."
- Abraham Lincoln
"In order to get power and retain it, it is necessary to love power; but love of power is not connected with goodness but with qualities that are the opposite of goodness, such as pride, cunning and cruelty."
- Leo Tolstoy
I hope I didn't scare you, because this is no time to be scared. This is a time to stand up for what's right and not allow our nation to plummet into disaster. The first step to topple the system is for everyone to know that they're in it.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2347715755 - if you're on facebook, please join the group and invite your friends :)
“What truth?” “That you are a slave, Neo. That you, like everyone else, was born into bondage... kept inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch – a prison for your mind.”
- The Matrix
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
—Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1841
"It is worthy of remark that a belief constantly inculcated during the early years of life, whilst the brain is impressible, appears to acquire almost the nature of an instinct; and the very essence of an instinct is that it is followed independently of reason."
—Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, 1871 - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4But, there sample is random and they use well worded questions. You did neither.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2when did i put myself up there with gallop and ap
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Popular Science? Or Popular Mechanics?
Either way both are flawed and frankly false, that's because 9/11 was an inside job. Those 3 buildings were blown up. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Of course, it could be that those people who are over 35 and have a facebook account and vote in these polls are biased towards conspiracy.
Remember, facebook is not representative of the population. - deBeuk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6"great, a poll from facebook, that completely proves that it was an inside job to me...
/sarcasm"
Agreed, this is way beyond retarded and completely irrelevant. Reality doesn't care about opinions. - rollem, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5How does being a New Yorker affect your belief or your credibility? Unless you were an eyewitness to some piece of evidence, then I'd say you're just as credible as anyone.
- brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -9/+11Most people don't believe the official story because most people are idiots who will watch utter tripe like Loose Change and believe every word of it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I am sure this is going to be on the 6o'clock news tonight.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -18/+20It is not that few people care, it is that your ilk are idiotic conspiracy nuts. Oh, and about "We need to SHUT THIS COUNTRY DOWN UNTIL WE ARE HEARD!!!!", I say no, you have had your say and we have rejected your stupidity. Now STFU.
- n8f8, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Because half the population chooses to bury their heads in the sand and bask in ignorance.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The poll is worthless because your sample does not mirror your target population and you used a vaguely worded question.
- savitr, on 10/10/2007, -13/+15I believe it would be a mistake to assume that our current president, or even VP, were the ones behind the attacks. They simply followed someone else's script. Democrats would have done the same, or get assassinated. That's my impression, at least.
An international consortium of intelligence agencies, organized crime, central banking, arms dealers, and big oil and other corporations, is evidently running the real show. So-called leaders only follow, it seems to me. Also, we are lucky if we learn anything truthful or relevant from mainstream news.
Permanent war is desirable, to this crowd. It leads to permanent profits, plus a frightened and gullible public. Most terrorism is planned and funded by this consortium, I now believe. Google Peter Dale Scott for more on this sort of thing -- if you can take it.
It certainly is more fun, and easier, to believe in our "leaders" and in "democracy" and "justice" than to get a whiff of what is really going on.
Whenever you hear the word "patriotism," I say, run the other direction.
What to do about all of this? I am not sure. I am looking for positive responses. I think going local is a good idea. Any kind of independence from governments seems smart to me. Go green and lead a good life. - jkeogh, on 10/10/2007, -16/+18http://governmentterror.com
Take a look at the thermal images section (first link on the left) - ventralnet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yea just like the its the fault of the abused wife because she didn't have dinner ready... Your "who is responsible" argument is lame. The only people who are responsible are the nut bars who decided crashing a few jets was a good idea
- knotboy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2If that were the case, you should have voted for clinton, since he was in office when 9-11 was planned.
- alastria, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4"Nearly six years after the event, more then half of all New Yorkers don’t believe the official story."
You forgot an important word. Half of all New Yorkers *POLLED* don't believe the official story. Regardless of the dubious science of just polling 500 random Facebook users, just because you poll 500 people doesn't mean ALL of them believe that. 500 in a city the size of NY is a hella big margin of error.
Buried. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2it's "TIME "to elect someone else to hate.
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