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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+143"No I didn't."
Oh, well then you're just stupid. - InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -12/+82@Viper,
I'll just go ahead and quote the article, perhaps that will be explanation enough:
"Cheney has long contended that the U.S. invasion of Iraq four years ago this month was justified in part because of suspected ties between Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.
But a 148-page report released by the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee in September showed that U.S. intelligence agencies disagreed with Bush administration claims of links between Hussein and al Qaeda."
Our objection, in summary, is that this man lies to Americans over and over, on this and many other topics, and we're ***** sick of it. He deserves to be in prison, and I suspect that he may end up there one day if his heart doesn't implode before the investigations (yes, they will happen) are complete.
Is that enough, or would you like me to draw you a picture? - stan205, on 10/12/2007, -17/+75@Viperdaimao
you forgot "/sarcasm" on the end there - honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -9/+58Bush has said that Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM
But Cheney is still "REPEATING" the lie that the war in Iraq is the central front in the worldwide U.S. response to the Sept. 11 attacks.
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
Joseph Goebbels
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
Adolf Hitler
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
George W. Bush
viperdaimao I'm sorry to tell you but your proof that propaganda works. - InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -12/+59Headline should be captioned with:
"US citizens call *****. Again." - fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -5/+43Cheney's mind is somewhat like a CD-ROM, no matter how hard you try, you can't alter its contents.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32They also both spin, spin, spin.
- Nydas, on 10/12/2007, -16/+46XD. O god nazuraki, i haven't laughed that hard all day. Dugg.
- tidu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33"What would cause a mass exodus to Canada?"
That'd be the question if we were playing Jeopardy. - InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25@fluxington,
ROFL, that's worth an add to the friend list dude.
@Gradient,
Allow me to rebut your somewhat condescending argument as posted:
"OK, here's how history works: In the past, you can believe things that in the present, you might find out are false. You get that genious? Cheney can say, and believe (without lying), that there is a connection between Sadam and AQ. Then, after the invasion, we find out we were wrong. See how that works? He said something that wasn't true, which we though was true (at the time), and later (in September, several years later) found out we were wrong. Is that simple enough for you to understand. My seven year old neice can probably get that, but I'm betting you can't."
I argue that:
1. Your argument holds no water - if Cheney believed it to be true THEN, but we've since learned that he WAS WRONG, then you have basically made my point for me. We know he was wrong, he should realize it, but instead continues to spew *****.
2. Cheney never believed his statements to be true, given what's been revealed about his "intelligence" handling since then.
3. Your tone reveals what a holier-than-thou ***** you are and since you see fit to treat me like some kind of imbecile, I have no problem calling you a ***** twit who is so wrapped up with partisan ***** that you refuse to accept the truth for what it is and are doing your best to bring about the downfall of the USA. Continue to spout your moronic acceptance of propaganda and you deserve whatever you get, *****.
Oh, and next time you try to insult someone by calling them a "genious" (sic), you might want to check the spelling. Moron. - Saiing, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25@gradient01
>And, as the man [Cheney] says, "Iraq's relevance to the war on terror simply could not be more plain", but he
>forgot to add in the part about "unless you post on Digg, in which case the plain escapes you entirely".
No, what Dick forgot to add was this: "the reason it's *now* part of the war on terror is because me and my buddies Don and Dubya went in and started ***** with someone elses country to get our hands on their oil, which pissed them off and so now they hate us and want to kill us. But hey, my friends at Halliburton got rich out of it, so that's just fine by us.
"Oh and by the way - black is white and the earth is flat". - benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21...only on digg would i read an analogy like that
- fluxingtontheIV, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22@InfamousAtheist
Dont worry InfamousAtheist! I got your covered! :-)
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/FluxMan_2007/cheney.jpg - NiGHTSChao, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I love biased arrogant retards like you, without people like you, the world would actually have widespread common sense and peace
- eriksanerd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17"Cheney linked Iraq and Al Qaeda even though post-invasion reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the presidential Commission on Intelligence Capabilities found no link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda before the U.S.-led invasion on March 19, 2003."
They found no link because Saddam would have nothing to do with Al Qaeda. Not all the loonies work together. Of course, to the (largely) uneducated American public, all that had to be done was name another psychotic dictator next to those who caused 9/11 to get their support. From Dick Cheney, who must know more about the situation than this, this cannot be considered anything but outright deception. - diggfinity, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Listen, the man is the damn Vice President of the United States of America. I *think* he knows what he..........pfft...ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha I'm so sorry, I tried but I just couldn't do it.
- Micfri, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I'd be lashing out too if I knew my political career was over.
- strangerzero, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Cheney "big lie" propaganda technique again.
- tehbishop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12analyze: I smite thee.
- deannnnnn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@analyze: Aside from the obvious trolling, if you were an informed individual, Cheney would piss you off too.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Dude, thats just ***** sad.
- bpmox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11why is it ok for him to keep doing this?
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13It was pointed out years ago that Bin Laden referred to Hussein as an atheist infidel leader. This is starting to sound like a broken record yet he still doesn't get it. I'm not sure how this guy became a CEO of a company, I wouldn't let him run a lemonade stand.
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"He [Saddam Hussein] had long established ties with al Qaeda." (March 14, 2004)
"I think there's overwhelming evidence that there was a connection between al Qaeda and the Iraqi government" (January 22, 2004)
"[Iraq is] the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11." (September 8, 2002)
"Well, what we now have that's developed since you and I last talked, Tim, of course, was that report that's been pretty well confirmed, that he [Mohammed Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April." (December 9, 2001) - dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The L and T keys aren't that ctose togelher are they?
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11@InfamousAtheist
Good point. I'm fairly conservative--I don't like abortion, I think federal government should be limited, borders need securing, affirmative action is racism, I think the environment needs protecting (that was conservative 40 years ago), and I think that we need to be less PC and more realistic in everyday life.
Bush and the Republicans in Congress are not conservatives. I'd much rather have a democrat in office than a republican, if these guys are all the party has to offer.
Also, I'm not so ***** blind to not see the military industrial complex at work and that the Iraq war was retarded from the beginning. - monkeyrun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8How many days before he moves to Dubai ?
- jodokast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"I think the man has served his wallet enough."
Fixed - ThisBlows, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8***** up? I seriously doubt if the Oil Pimp and Defense Contractor possess enough consciousness between them to differentiate between a ***** up and a Medal of Freedom. "Donald Rumsfeld is the best Secretary of Defense in history"
DICK Cheney. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6A) http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/15/bush.alqaeda/
B) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1610113
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/il09_schakowsky/pr1_22_2004mis.html
C) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080244/
D) http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/news-speeches/speeches/vp20011209.html - JusticeAK, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8iraq does not equal 9/11
- honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7FBI Whistleblower names Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Marc Grossman, Dennis Hastert, and others TODAY for crimes of treason!
http://digg.com/politics/Some_members_of_PNAC_AIPAC_will_be_thrown_in_jail_for_treason_says_witness
“had to do with information related to counter-terrorism division dealing mainly with the 911 terror attacks....retrieved a lot of documents and wiretap conversations - some of them dating back to 1999/2000”
“And I filed these issues, and when I filed them, I filed them with the supporting documents. - it was not me saying ‘This is what I think is happening.’”
“All the agents that I worked with, they were great individuals, they were patriotic, they were as frustrated as I was - and they were outraged that these layers from the Pentagon, and the State Department, that they were interfering with their investigations”
“present them with documents, and details, and file numbers etc. Initially, we had Senator Grassley and Senator Leahy, a Democrat and a Republican - this was in the summer of 2002. These two senators, together, came out publicly and they said ‘We started investigating this case, we have already interviewed the FBI officials, they confirmed all her allegations to us, and she’s 100% credible.”
“I’m not the only witness.”
“Some of these people’s names are not public because they haven’t come out to blow the whistle publicly, but they have to congress and the Justice Dept Inspector General’s office filing exactly the same reports that I filed.”
“veteran FBI agents who were in charge of these operations. They want to testify under oath, they want to testify publicly, and they have filed these reports.”
“so packed with damning information”
“there are so many agents, and I have their names, and they are willing to go and testify under oath.”
“information that will let the public know that here we have appointed officials and elected officials who are out there engaged in treason!”
“And these cases are documented, the files, the wiretaps, go back to 1997, 1998. They are documented, there are documents, there are witnesses and we need to expose these people and we need to see criminal indictments against these people - and it will (happen). All we need is for this hearing to take place, for people to testify, and for the documents to be introduced, then you’re going to see criminal indictments against these people.”
“there are individuals who are engaged in acts of treason, okay. People from the State Dept, people from the Pentagon”
“look at the board members, look at the people. You will see the same people involved in both fronts, because it is the same operation. And you come across the same individuals over and over again.”
She was talking about PNAC/AIPAC.
“You need to look at individuals like Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Marc Grossman, Dennis Hastert, and others. And documented evidence they have collected on these people.”
“many of them financial interests that have to do with the military industrial complex - and they had this information, and those same individuals - not the ones from Congress necessarily, but the ones from the State Dept and Pentagon.”
“‘Let’s defend our country against all enemies - not foreign,, but also domestic’”
“...take that two minutes, maybe less than two minutes, and call Chairman Waxman, and remind him that he’s the Chairman, there’s no obstacle.
This case is not allegation, it’s not a case that needs to be investigated, that has already been done. Even the Dept of Justice’s own Inspector General’s Office has put out a report vindicating the case. We have had bipartisan congressional statements saying that this is credible, and absolutely confirming it. So this is not taking something that is unknown. He’s the Chairman, he has the power, there’s nothing that stands in his way, this is a confirmed case, let’s see some justice and accountability.”
You can call Waxman at (202-225-3976 ) and Conyers at (202-225-5126) and demand open public hearings into Sibel’s case. - InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9@peritonlogon,
You forgot to mention that the government reformed welfare, balanced the budget, and eliminated the federal deficit under Clinton, three items which today's "conservatives" would have us believe are policy items they would really love to change if it weren't for those gosh-darned Big-Government Democrats!
Republicans =! (true) Conservatives - Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And they're both contained in something shiny!
What? I can't play the "Cheney metaphor game," too? - TehChosen1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9At least his daughter is a lesbian....
- spyd3rweb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6you just cant seem to not get buried can you. perhaps you should go back to browsing myspace.
- loconet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Tie? I wasn't aware this was a competition.
- daleok, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Cheney, for the love of God, please shut up. No one is listening.
- br0ck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@tuba
1. "In no manner did Cheney EVER link Iraq to 9/11. This article is just ridiculous and there will be many users on here that will read the article and accept this crap at face value without doing any real critical thinking or investigating. "
Why did you leave off the following paragraphs before your quotes that DIRECTLY link the war to 9/11?
"It's always the case in wartime that the heaviest duties fall on the men and women of the military. The ones doing the fighting never lose their focus on their mission or on what is at stake in this war, and neither should the rest of us. Five-and-a-half years have passed since the attacks of September 11, 2001, and the loss that morning of nearly 3,000 Americans inside the United States. As we get farther away from 9/11, I believe there's a temptation to forget the urgency of the task that came to us that day and the comprehensive approach that's required to protect this country against an enemy that moves and acts on multiple fronts. In fact, five-and-a-half years into the struggle, we find ourselves having to confront a series of myths about the war on terror, myths that are often repeated and deserve to be refuted. The most common myth is that Iraq has nothing to do with the global war on terror."
2. "Cheney recognizes the other side: 'The most common myth is that Iraq has nothing to do with the global war on terror.'"
There is no such myth. The 'other side' knows that Iraq has everything to do with exacerbating the war on terror.
3. "Opponents of our military action there have called Iraq a diversion from the real conflict, a distraction from the business of fighting and defeating bin Laden and the al Qaeda network. We hear this over and over again, not as an argument but as an assertion meant to close off argument."
So he's saying the military in Iraq has not distracted from defeating bin Laden and al Qaeda. Then, cool, since Iraq is not actually a distraction we should have both those done in no time since there's so many resources being applied to those two goals that he repeatedly tells us are the most important goals of the military.
4. Then he goes on to say that Bin Laden himself wants Iraq to be the focal point for the jihad.
Yes, Bin Laden wants the focal point for the jihad to be in Iraq because he knows that if we waste our resources there, then we just earn ill will in the region and his chances of getting caught are massively reduced.
5. "Yet the critics conveniently disregard the words of bin Laden himself. The most serious issue today for the whole world, he has said, is this third world war that is raging in Iraq. He calls it a destiny between infidelity and Islam. He said the whole world is watching this war and that it will end in victory and glory or misery and humiliation. And in words directed at the American people, bin Laden declares, "The war is for you or for us to win. If we win it, it means your defeat and disgrace forever.""
So Cheney is now getting his advice from bin Laden who says that if the U.S. 'wins' in Iraq that they will have the glory. Does Cheney really think that just because bin Laden says one side will win and one will lose that a win means that the entire region will fill with peace, love and democracy and that bin Laden and al Qaeda will just give up without a fight and global terror will just disappear? If so, he must also believe that all other countries in the region will just accept that we have permanent military there and will make zero effort to get us out and the 100s of thousands of people that have had family members disfigured and lost loved ones that will just unanimously forgive us and decide to never seek revenge.
6. Cheney's main point of this speech was to clarify the importance of standing strong in Iraq because the terrorists are hoping we fail.
Oh, now it all makes sense. The point of the war is not in fact to fight terrorists themselves, we're just doing it to prove to them that we won't fail. - ThisBlows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well that's a greater gift for articulation than his "boss"
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@gradient01
OK, let us then apply your tactics, if we shall. Why don't you prove that Mr. Cheney has always told the truth? Prove that he has not benefited financially from the prolonged involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq vis a vis his ties with Halliburton? Demonstrate to me clearly that he has been an upright, moral, ethical, and truthful human being all along. I can take the wonderful conservative tactic as well, give me proof that is verifiable and corroborated in the legitimate press.
And how about hunting without a license in Texas, involving alcohol and the accidental shooting of another person, for which he was never questioned by the police. Instead of answering for what happened, he hoped into his jet a sped back to Washington D.C. This is the Vice President of the United States and he just left. What a friend. Try this, go out and follow in your heroes footsteps and see how quickly you wind up in jail.
You want pure hatred without reason, and I cannot give you that because the reasons I gave you are the reasons why I despise him. If you fail to see this in him that is your delusion and not mine. I see him for what he is, and you do not. Where you see in me hate without reason, I see in you devotion without conscience. - CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5And because of these lies, the American government is putting young men and women into situations like the pics below show.
Sniper attack on a patrol. A marine runs from cover to rescue his fallen comrade.
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7834/1small8xjeb1.jpg
Another marine comes to send the first marine back and to save the fallen marine.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8059/2small9fsne0.jpg
First marine gets hit by the sniper and goes down.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6738/34pgaa4.jpg
Both marines die on the street.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4225/4small9lybr7.jpg
They should be reporting news like this everyday on all the networks to show the American public what is really going on over there.
These soldiers, probably no more than 20 years old are dying for a cause that ultimately does not benefit anyone, nor does it defend the American constitution.
How can anyone justify this? - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Yes yes, it has everything to do with terrorism! Conqu-- er, I mean liberating Iraq was key in the War on Terrorism™. It definitely doesn't have anything to do with the oil, or the *****-tons of money I made because of Halliburton. Definitely not... Mmm, moneymoneymoney... er, I mean, peace and justice" *nod nod*
Oh, silly Cheney, you just crack me up! But seriously, get the ***** out and die in a ditch. Please. - sucks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4A "tie" would be 10/10.
But this is 9/11 we're talking about. - Protean1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Only if we get lucky.
And if we get that lucky, he won't be President long. - honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Richard Perle and Douglas Fieth (among others) wrote this policy paper for then Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Neyatanu http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm "A Clean Break a New Strategy for Securing the Realm". This was written in 1998 that calls for "rolling back Syria", "removing Sadam from power", and "forging a closer relationship with the U.S." When 911 happened these pro-Israel neocons exploited people's anger not to destroy Al Queda and kill Bin Laden but to advance Isreal's interests.
Douglas Fieth was put in charge of the Office of Special Plans, the office that was responsible for most of the "intelligence" about Sadam Hussien having WMD's. Larry Franklin who worked for Fieth is sitting in prison now for passing classified information about Iran to AIPAC. The two top officials at AIPAC Kieth Wiesman and Steve Rosen are currently on trial now for espionage. A lot of people say this classified information must have come from someone higher than Franklin's paygrade (ie Fieth). - Protean1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Macktwo.
Thanks for muddying the water, or was that your intention?
There's no big 'tie-in' to Israel.
What's 9/11?
The biggest Organized Crime Job in history.
(however would they keep it secret, you say? Ask the Mafia, or folks who work at Groom Lake AFB)
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but our civilization is coming
apart at the seams. There's not too much fuel left in the tank, so to speak, the rich and powerful, and smart folks saw this coming years ago, and are sucking up as much as they can, looting, stealing, anything so they and theirs will make it. They don't give one rats ass about you and yours. Better make your own plans for survival, cause no one else will. - DforSpiD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Out the front of the American embassy in Canberra (The capital of Australia, for those who are ignorant... Not that I expect it to be too much of an issue here...) there's a guy that just sits there all day with sign saying things like "America Caused the Tsunami" and other such things...
He'd make a great politician... - neuroticus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Thank you captain obvious"
Well... half the country doesn't know this yet. So, it's not as obvious as it should be :-( - davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@geronimo
Thank you for giving what the conservatives hate and ignore, proof. -
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