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youtube.com — False-Flag Terrorism -- Terrorist acts that appear to have been carried out by a certain group or nation, who are quickly named as the responsible party or parties, when in fact, the terrorist event was carried out by another group entirely.

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  • FrankHope, on 07/27/2008, -9/+59If you don't believe in the Conspiracy Theories, then I guess you must believe in Coincidence Theories. What are the odds?
    • JagPop, on 07/27/2008, -6/+17The government believes in conspiracy theories. Why is it that Rightard conspiracy theories that are so full of holes that they look attractive to proctologists are acceptable (to the "news" media and piles of righties)?
      For example, the 9/11 Commission says it was nineteen hijackers and a guy hiding in a cave in Afghanistan that bear full responsibility for 9/11 -- anyone check their dictionary lately? "Conspiracy: A group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose".
      It weren't some lone gunman!
      • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -1/+2Well, thats wrong, Osama was operating with the full cooperation of the Taliban, so he was hardly in a cave.

        But yes, your basic assertion is correct, 9/11 was a conspiracy on the part of Al-Qaeda to attack America. The facts support this. What no facts support is that the Bush administration (or the Illuminati, or Jews, or anyone etc...) created 9/11 with explosives or missiles or whatever.
      • quesi, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2There is more pointing at Israeli involvement in 9/11 than Afghanistan or Iraq. At best, they knew it was going down.

        At worst, well... at worst, someone is emulating the stereotype.
        911missinglinks.com
    • Hangly, on 07/27/2008, -6/+10I prefer the term "miracle theories."
    • Reasonableguy, on 07/29/2008, -3/+8Anyone seen the pilot of "The Lone Gunmen"? 'Tis eerie. 'Specially if you consider the fact that it was released in the first quarter of 2001.
    • DeadManWalking, on 07/29/2008, -1/+8I believe in Occam's Razor
      • GhostyBoy, on 07/29/2008, -5/+5What would Occam's Razor about building 7?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo
      • JohnReb, on 07/29/2008, -6/+5That a building that has a larger building fall on it, and then is abandoned to burn freely for hours doesn't need any other help to fall down.
      • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -2/+3http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7_Smoke.jpg

        that extensive fire damage compromised the structural integrity of the building causing its collapse.
      • quesi, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2... yeaaaaah... compromised the structural integrity in a manner that caused all support columns - in an asymmetric pattern, mind you - to simultaneously give way and drop as if ALL resistance was removed - kinda like wtc1 and 2, except an implosion instead of explosion...

        despite Barry Jennings accounts of 8th floor explosions and dead bodies filling the lobby... http://youtube.com/watch?v=PbbZE7c3a8Q

        I know, I know - not simple enough for you or Occam. There's some critical thinking for you...

    • overlyconcerned, on 07/29/2008, -5/+1The moon landings were fake!

      The mythbusters won't even be able to prove me wrong! I KNOW TEH TRUTH
    • trooftard, on 07/29/2008, -6/+1LOL TroofTards
    • robbh66, on 07/29/2008, -5/+2I believe nothing Alex Jones says. I stopped watching the second I recognized his voice.
  • FrankHope, on 07/27/2008, -12/+54America 2008 Is Germany 1938 - 9/11 is the Reichstag Fire:
    http://www.hermes-press.com/germany1930.htm
    • Hangly, on 07/27/2008, -5/+13Or America could be America and 9/11 is the Maine. We kind of invented the modern false-flag attack. Hitler was a great fan of American propaganda.

      Remember the pulling down of the statue of Saddam early into the war? That was a false-flag too.
    • Hortnon, on 07/29/2008, -13/+7What's more sad, that you said that or that people Dugg you up?

      Tough call...
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -2/+8Aw, you're sad? Now you made me sad :(

      I know, let's split a bucket of haagen dasz. I've got spoons.
    • catcher6250, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3New Indiana Jones movies!
  • MarkEarhart, on 07/27/2008, -10/+31Yep!!!
  • ufia, on 07/27/2008, -34/+11It's now been documented beyond a doubt that Alex Jones is wearing his mom's lingerie under his clothes in public. Coincidentally Hitler was doing it too, so this further proves that Alex Jones is a pervert, and a fascist Nazi. Don't just take my word for it, google it, do your own research. If you connect the dots, Hitler was a gay tranny, so was Alex Jones, it's clear to me that the truth is Alex Jones was behind the Holocaust. The facts speak for themselves. Alex Jones murdered millions of innocent jews. It's a conspiracy, wake up!
    • SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -6/+24?

      You gotta wonder about these inexperienced, socially inept government apologist crime enablers who can't defend their sacred comic book 9/11 myth with real facts or anything substantial, much less refute topics which oppose their limited 'government is golden' worldview TV-addled "belief system" sensibly to save their lives. All they got left is ad hominem bull *****, puking up "gay" stereotype innuendo, "pervert" rhetoric and other dumb name calling hiding behind a computer over the Internets. Why is that? You can't defend a lie that's why. And they know it. The last desperate refuge of these dubious creatures is to vomit 14/yo slander in pathetic attempt to "discredit" those who question government motives to bring the truth.

      These are the same government apologist types who would've turned a blind eye to Hitler's scandalous atrocities in 1940s Germany as they scurry to defend everything he did, run interference for his administration and propagandists while slandering those who speak out with ignorant name calling threats. True programmed ***** who will fall for anything. You think they'd learn from history? That would be asking the impossible.
      • ufia, on 07/27/2008, -17/+7You still can't refute the fact that Alex Jones is a nazi male prostitute. All you did is calling me a ***** and trying to discredit my comment with ad hominem hitlerian fear mongering. Why are you dodging the issue, what makes you so afraid of the truth? What are your crimes? It's becoming more apparent to me that SickOfGovtLIES is a CIA operative and can't be trusted.
      • lazerus9, on 07/27/2008, -4/+12I think you summed it up very well!
    • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -2/+6"It's now been documented beyond a doubt that Alex Jones is wearing his mom's lingerie under his clothes in public."

      URL ?

      Thought so..

      "Coincidentally Hitler was doing it too, so this further proves that Alex Jones is a pervert, and a fascist Nazi."

      "Hitler was a gay tranny, so was Alex Jones"

      Sounds like somebody's got issues. Come out of the closet. It's safe now.
  • iancgi, on 07/27/2008, -10/+37And the house of cards begins to crumble.
  • GlobalistShill, on 07/27/2008, -10/+3710 False Flags that Changed the World

    http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/10-false-flags-that-ch ...
  • Catspaw, on 07/27/2008, -11/+32The 7/7 bombings was another false flag attack that changed the world - another attack that was clearly perpetrated by criminal elements in government and the truth was hidden by the mainstream media.
    If you haven't seen '7/7 Ripple Effect', the documentary that shows the evidence of government complicity, make sure you do. It is here: http://jforjustice.co.uk/77/
  • citcokid, on 07/27/2008, -10/+30You can add to the list the USS Liberty attack by Israel during the 6 day war in 1967 in which they tried to blame the attack on Egypt in a vane attempt to get the US in the war.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-331966304 ...
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -1/+6Also Operation Red Rock, a false flag to try to draw Cambodia into the Vietnam War on the side of the south.
      • SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -1/+6http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/mena/167094.htm ... http://www.voxfux.com/features/cia_bush_drug_traff ...
        "A plan had been drawn up at the highest levels of Nixon's administration. Team Red Rock were to enter Cambodia's capital, Phnom Penh, in secret and attack the airport and military and civil installations, wreaking as much havoc as possible. The plan called for the team to parachute into the outskirts of Phnom Penh, carrying captured NVA "Sappers" with them. Taken in unarmed and alive, the Sappers would be "sacrificed" and their bodies left to be discovered by Cambodian forces. A furious Lon Nol would assume North Vietnam was to blame. It was hoped that such an act would stiffen Lon Nol's backbone. With nowhere else to turn, the US puppet would urgently seek US hardware to strengthen his forces and continue the battle."

        Great scam. Those deceivers sure know how to scheme, don't they? And to think, they want us to believe 9/11 was all just a "coincidence" !
  • btschul, on 07/28/2008, -13/+18Hahahha I'm here before onetimer!!
    • onetimer, on 07/28/2008, -22/+13thanks for setting off my RSS aggregator keyword detecter. Now i can bury this bs.
      • floatingorb, on 07/28/2008, -10/+14What? You mean the Megafun...err, I mean phone? Aren't you worried about getting your identity stolen in the very likely event that it has/will been/be hacked? {I didn't think so. You are like Vista which no one wants to steal.}
      • onetimer, on 07/28/2008, -9/+10floatingorb, what gives you the impression that I *must* use megaphone? Because i'm jewish?

        Before sounding like an idiot, maybe you should actually try megaphone. It's a ***** RSS reader that updates very infrequently and certainly doesn't link to any digg stories.


  • mordochai, on 07/28/2008, -15/+9Didn't read. Won't read.
    • jaymzdean, on 07/28/2008, -8/+11Living in denial is a miserable existence.
      Eat really eats at you over time.
    • Rabbit63, on 07/28/2008, -5/+10.......Then let us hope you cannot breed.
    • mordochai, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2I fear the truth, quite obviously.
  • MarkEarhart, on 07/28/2008, -15/+12No nutjobs here. You must be lost, the "nutjobs" obviously hang out in your mother's bed.
  • fadeout, on 07/28/2008, -22/+16Sale on tinfoil, aisle 3.
  • SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -17/+27The so-called "War On Terror" is another scam

    'Enemies' are necessary for the wheels of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex machine to turn.

    The formula:

    A; create "puppet" enemies (e.g. Saddam Insane, Osama Bin Bogeyman, "Al Qaeda")

    "The Islamic "jihad" was supported by the United States and Saudi Arabia with a significant part of the funding generated from the Golden Crescent drug trade:" http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
    It doesn't really matter whether the puppets and patsies realize they are puppets or not; but its better (for believability purposes) if they don't.

    B; Finance the enemies (e.g. skyrocketing opium production in Afghanistan is the primary source of al-Qaeda's funds according to the CIA and DEA) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/02/world/ma ...
    C; Use the puppet 'enemies' as war catalysts (e.g. encouraging Saddam to invade Kuwait) and excuses for expanding government controls and castrating the rights of the citizens. (e.g. "Patriot Act" "Department of Homeland (in)Security" "NSPD-51" "Military Commissions Act" "Signing Statements" "FISA" "Real ID Act" and on and on) http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie ...
    D; Dumb down the 'voting pools' with uneducated immigrants; "More than half of all working adults in Los Angeles are illiterate" http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story ...
    The Elitist Cult's mission objective;

    A global police state (with members of the cult and their lackeys in control)
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/20 ...
    USA Today; Sep.25,2002 "Bush, a loyal and particularly active member of Skull and Bones..One of President Bush's first social gatherings at the White House was a Skull and Bones reunion."

    There really is such a thing as the "European Illuminati": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
    and their USA branch #322,"Skull and Bones" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
    "Skull and Bones" actually is a cult, by any definition, and it really does consist of the most powerful men in the world (Bush and Kerry are S&B.)

    Historical Facts Below:

    9 men were responsible for creating, financing and supplying America's 'enemies' and other types of war promotion/profiteering as well as the secretization of American government with the CIA and 1947 National Security Act.

    *Averell Harriman ,Prescott Bush, Robert Lovett, George Walker, Roland Harriman, George H.W. Bush, William Bundy, George W. Bush, McGeorge Bundy.

    Had none of these men been born, the world may have well been spared WW2, Korean war, Vietnam War, and the current "War on Terror" (fraud).

    All 9 have/had an allegiance to something which transcends, by oath, all their other personal, commercial, spiritual and national allegiances; their allegiance to the 'Order of Skull and Bones.'

    Prescott Bush, George Walker, Averell Harriman, Knight Wooley and Roland Harriman (all members of the "Skull and Bones" cult) http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Skull-And-Bones183 ... financed and supplied Adolf Hitler's rise to power and the Nazi war machine for 16 years up until 10 months after Pearl Harbor when their companies were confiscated by the US government under our Trading with the Enemy Act.

    The foundation for the Bush family fortune was made by financing and supplying "puppet enemy" Hitler.
    http://tinyurl.com/6x7wq3
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/27/finan ...
    http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?Sto ...

    Henry Stimson and "Special Consultant" G L. Harrison engineered the atomic bombing of Japanese civilian populations: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/35.p ...

    Averell Harriman, William Bundy and McGeorge Bundy were S&B members and they were the architects of the Vietnam War. "Another most painful episode concerns the overthrow of President Ngo Dinh Diem, advocated by a cabal in the State Department led by undersecretary Averell Harriman." http://www.afio.com/reviews/cia_vietnam_policymake ...

    Robert Lovett (S&B), William Bundy, Henry Stimson, G L. Harrison and Averell Harriman engineered the Korean War and also the National Security Act of 1947 which sanctioned secrecy (even from congress) within US government operations. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/inde ...

    See the "Good Shepherd" and read this free, detailed and complete work by world renowned Scholar/Economist Antony Sutton; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

    "America's Secret Establishment" http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119639 ...

    Bogus Terror Plots - I (short clips) http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/57.html
    Bogus Terror Plots - II (10:57) http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/58.html
    How to lead America (2:23) http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/118.html
    Israeli Spying and 9/11 (multiple) http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/61.html
    More Terror Fraud from Bush (8:48) http://www.brasscheck.com/videos/911/911bushfraud. ...
    Rudy Giuliani - The Thug (8:12) http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/98.html
    The 7/7 London Bombing (multiple) http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/60.html
    The Osama Bin Laden Hoax http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

    "Operation Northwoods": U.S. government planned fake terror attacks on U.S. citizens to create support for Cuban war http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwo ...
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html

    WTC Targeted on 1999 FEMA "Terror" book cover: http://tinyurl.com/6rzzbg

    See also: "Operation Gladio" NATO's history of terrorist activity http://tinyurl.com/57kyqf

    The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655 ...
    "This is the full length 90 min. version of Bill Moyer's 1987 scathing critique of the criminal subterfuge carried out by the Executive Branch of the United States Government to carry out operations which are clearly contrary to the Constitution and wishes and values of the American people. The ability to exercise this power with impunity is facilitated by the National Security Act of 1947. The thrust of the exposé is the Iran-Contra arms and drug-running operations which flooded the streets of our nation with crack cocaine. The significance of the documentary is probably greater today in 2008 than it was when it was made. We now have a situation in which these same forces have committed the most egregious terrorist attack on US soil and have declared a fraudulent so-called "War on Terror". The ruling regime in the US who have conducted the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, are now banging the war drum against Iran. We have the "Patriot Act" (sham) which has stripped us of many of our basic civil rights justified by the terror of 9/11 which is their own doing."

    The world is governed by very different
    personages from what is imagined by those
    who are not behind the scenes..
    • citcokid, on 07/29/2008, -2/+9Outstanding research and analysis. Good Job!
    • woodrow8292, on 07/29/2008, -9/+2Wow nice work. Not taking your meds again?
    • rmtatum, on 07/29/2008, -2/+7Well done. Very excellent research. I shared this (and gave credit to you) to some of my friends on Facebook who still support the Iraq war and President (err...traitor) Bush.
    • rentmitchum, on 07/29/2008, -1/+7Christ.. my natural instinct is to bury you for having such a long comment.. I mean I come on here thinking I'm just gonna read some comment that's concise and *****, but then there's links, and more.. and more.. and I begin to think I can't deflect verbiage of that magnitude.. and I come to the inevitable conclusion that.. well..

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    • badassninja, on 07/29/2008, -0/+8You Tube Videos... make them. lol
    • Duggan360, on 07/29/2008, -0/+6Thank god for that speed reader that was posted yesterday
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/29/2008, -6/+5Typical Troofer overload tactic. Make hundreds of assorted and unrelated claims in a single post. Whenever someone tries to refute a single point, they can ignore it and point to the other 99 claims. I'll be back in a minute after I read your link on how we forced North Korea to invade South Korea.
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/29/2008, -5/+4Hey, big suprise. Your link has absolutely NOTHING about "Robert Lovett (S&B), William Bundy, Henry Stimson, G L. Harrison and Averell Harriman engineered the Korean War and also the National Security Act of 1947 which sanctioned secrecy (even from congress) within US government operations."

      Its about the use of the atomic bomb on Japan.
    • overlyconcerned, on 07/29/2008, -5/+2I'm actually a Bonesman.

      And you're spouting ***** that you don't know anything about.

      And yes, my profile is fake. I wouldn't reveal my real S&B identity.
  • Herkimer56, on 07/28/2008, -22/+14What a massive collection of propaganda, buzzwords, truther talking points and *****. Most impressive, morons.



    Oh, buried as inaccurate.
    • MarkusGarvey, on 07/28/2008, -4/+9hey Tink...whats the opposite of "truther"?...
      • Herkimer56, on 07/28/2008, -12/+6Liars. Like you and your pathetic little friends.
      • MarkusGarvey, on 07/29/2008, -5/+8gee Tink now im really confused!...if you say we are truthers, and the opposite is liars sooo the truth is a lie and a lie is the truth....so i guess im lying which means im telling the truth?...Harcor Fenton Mudd! (SP?) (Harry Mudd)...
      • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1The opposite of a 'Truther' is someone grounded in reality.
    • SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -6/+7I see the rabid defender of cowardly war criminals & all day on Digg (including weekends) government apologist crime enabler has made it's "grand entrance" with it's usual sewage...(yawn). And look, it's got it's devoted disciples in tow! You think it would actually try and surprise us with some new licks every now and then but it's the same 'ol tired garbage from this vicious creature of denial. If it's not paid to do this all day, it should be. Wonder what attracted it here. My recent comment of many links and documentation? Perhaps it's rampant obsession with typing "9/11" "troofer" and "Ron Paul" into Diggs search box all day and night long so it can troll the comment section in feeble attempt to "discredit"..? Sure as flies on yesterdays dog *****, it suddenly appears. Along with the rest of it's loyal government lapdog apologist band of military deception parrots. All at the same time, vomiting the same soundbites and squirrel bait in the same threads. Weird..It's almost as if they have no life to speak of and nothing better to do with their time.

      9/11 was one big lie. The cover-up by the government is so obvious to any decent, real human being with more than 2 braincells to put together who isn't compensated to promote Military Industrial Complex war profiteer agenda all day long. The little creature doesn't realize it's fabled 'Al quaeda' is a fantasy that was politically expedient to sell. So it takes out it's proven ignorance on those who appose government mythology. Too funny. Dumb name-calling innuendo is all its got left. The fact that it's made its presence known here (in a 9/11 related thread no less..) spouting the usual tired dis-info puke and hateful ad-homs a 12/yo would refrain using, indicates there is much veracity to this submission..

      "Oh, buried as inaccurate."

      "Inaccurate" it alleges, yet it doesn't have any counter whatsoever, to any arguments presented. It fails to provide real proof to the contrary. Again. It cannot fathom a cogent, logical explanation so it calls names instead. Utters "buried!" so it can feel it's "done something" for it's enormous ego. It's too socially inept to reason with dignity. That would be asking the impossible. It has nothing of substance whatsoever to offer aside from weak schoolyard name-calling rhetoric hiding behind a computer over the Internets. This is how it convinces others of its position. This is "debate" for a war criminal apologist who spends it's "life" on Digg, 24/7. It's compartmental-ized itself into a bottom feeder 20 percent that still doesn't get it, that still believes the 'government can do no wrong whatsoever', that buys the lies, manipulations and comic book fables the PNAC profiteering war fetishist administration is marketing 100% without a hint of skepticism and believes it's Lord W Bush in all his fervor and dumbed down soundbite-addled speeches, yet still does NO real research into what's going on. All this without a single question, doubt, curiosity or reservation about ANYTHING the administration says or does. It takes everything the government says at face value. It fails to learn from history and has no concept of it.

      Simpletons like this (paid for?) tool are why America is *****. Just go back to watching FOX and WWE and eating your 70lb Burger King meals and leave the politics to educated adults who have a conscience. Sorry, I'm not stupid enough to let a corrupt government tell me who my enemy is. I don't feel like murdering millions of innocent people to make rich people richer.

      Not many good American citizens believe your official government comic book tripe anymore. The tables have turned. That must drive you bonkers beyond belief. You defend the most vile, lying filth imaginable. Goes with the territory eh? Keep spinning and 'burying' articles & comments which expose your 9/11 crime. It's all you got left. That's not going to stop the truth.
  • onetimer, on 07/28/2008, -18/+7SickOfSickOfGovtLies' spam. So...buried.
  • DrDreyfus, on 07/29/2008, -12/+17I hope this makes the front page so the general Digg community interrupts this circle jerk.
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -4/+5Depends when it makes the front page. Some days the bury brigades are strangely absent.
  • justinx0r, on 07/29/2008, -7/+13If the title read "Stupid 'coincidences' that are interpreted to fit my view that the ___[Jews, Bush Administration, CFR, Bilderbergers]___ were behind 9/11 even though there is no actual proof" then this would be accurate.
    • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -5/+6You seem to only acknowledge evidence which conveniently fits your view. How quaint.

      Israeli spies and Mossad involved in 9-11
      http://tinyurl.com/2ysg2p
      Where have you been?

      Israeli 9-11 Spy Ring
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8IChBDQrRQ
      Reichstag 9-11: Israeli Involvement
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDCzymSTw8
      "Our purpose was to document the event"

      Everyone needs a purpose right. This implies prior knowledge and complicity. Yet they didn't warn us?

      FBI involved in safe harboring two of the hijackers
      http://tinyurl.com/2wqp2q
      For starters.

      Yeah, it's all one big coincidence! Speaking of stupid, what was that about changing the title again?
      • justinx0r, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1First of all, the "Israeli spies and Mossad involved in 9-11" link says nothing about 9/11 being orchestrated or influenced by the Israelis. The fact that they warned the US about a major attack is not news - the 9/11 Commission found that there had been many warnings from the FBI and CIA about a major attack.

        All countries have spies in other countries. The US has spies in the UK, Israel, Canada, etc. The UK has spies in the US, Israel, Canada, etc. You aren't proving anything by pointing out that Israel has spies in the US.

        The so-called 'documentary' you linked has absolutely no proof of anything in it. It's just a bunch of video clips edited to insinuate circumstantial evidence that the Mossad was involved in 9/11. It's completely useless.

        Also, your Dr. Graham FBI assassination link is completely wrong.

        "Dr. Graham apparently met Khan in conjunction with the 9/11 conspirators and was set to testify against him at a deportation hearing sometime in 2004, following Khan's conviction on the money transfer charge. He was also trying to publish a manuscript about meeting the three men and his contacts with the FBI."

        http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/18887. ...

        He was set to TESTIFY AGAINST the terrorists. The FBI has said that he never contacted them until after 9/11. No one knows what happened to Jamal Khan. For all anyone knows he could have slipped off undetected or he could be in a witness protection program, but assuming automatically it's part of a huge conspiracy is intellectually dishonest and foolish.
    • Waiting2awake, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4First comes evidense - to which this, and thousands of other pieces, have more than enough evidense to bring them to step two -

      A trial where two sides show both sets of evidense. and try to "prove" their case.

      You don't start with "proof", which seems to be the cry from the right - but with mere evidense of wrong doing - and that we have in spades.

      Now it is just a matter of getting them into a court of law - which is harder when people want the "proof" before they go to the court.

      Please, your country needs you.
  • borez, on 07/29/2008, -2/+5Well ***** them, they're not winning this battle. They're people, I'm a person and if they think that they can't be got to... they're wrong.
  • gamebittk, on 07/29/2008, -15/+14Who seriously diggs this garbage? Is there some sort of troofer ring I don't know about? Judging from your profiles, you guys in this post all digg the same stories, comment on the same stories, and sensationalize the same stories.
    • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -7/+5Exactly how far up your own arse are you? I see you have been conditioned well to stereotype people into meaningless categories with your TV sound bites. Congratulations.

      Honestly, all you people are doing is publicly exposing your dense brain. You'd think you'd want to hide it.
      • gamebittk, on 07/29/2008, -4/+7And why exactly am I stereotypical? Is it because I can see all the recent activity you have, and make a logical observation based on that? Do you consider everyone who isn't ignorant to be unintelligent?

        How about you take your own head out of your own arse and stop accusing people of poor judgment when you clearly don't have any good judgment yourself.

        Also, according to your own logic, the 'you people' of your own comment is stereotypical. Hypocrite.
  • 10stackz, on 07/29/2008, -10/+6Everybody needs to wake up to the fact that these 9/11 videos are like beating a dead horse. We will never know who did the deed. You can claim this video right here and look at this one, but its all *****. There is no evidence that would hold up in a court of law. I mean ***** there are actually videos of people trying to say that it was a missile that hit the WTC under the cover of a Holographic plane. I mean come the ***** on. With videos out there like that nobody is going to believe this *****.

    Are gov's capable of committing such acts? Hitler did it. Alex Jones is no better than our current administration he spews nothing but useless propaganda that helps divide the people. Ever heard the mantra "Divide and Conquer"? Yea well thats exactly what the Neo-cons want. Not only that but most of the people spewing this ***** wont do a damn thing when ***** hits the fan. Because if you were going to do something about it you would have already done it.

    There are people right now ready to throw it all on the line right now that are just waiting for the word. Digg me down but your only burying the truth. It sickens me that all these Truthers are anti neo-con but yet their playing right into there hands and even more amazingly helping the Neo-cons win.
    • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -2/+6How are truthers playing right into the neo-cons hands?

      "Alex Jones is no better than our current administration he spews nothing but useless propaganda"

      Riight....Alex Jones is the antichrist! nothing but useless propaganda, of course. None of it is true or has any merit whatsoever. None of it has been backed up by documented facts it's all useless. He is worse than our current administration! Move along, nothing to see here.

      "Not only that but most of the people spewing this ***** wont do a damn thing when ***** hits the fan. Because if you were going to do something about it you would have already done it."

      Oversimplify much? You ass-u-me much about people you don't know. But you can sure judge them. The Nuremberg trials didn't happen overnight. Learn history, or you will be doomed to repeat it.

      So when are the folks like you who know everything and have all the answers going to stop calling it a “conspiracy theory,” and call it the conspiracy that it is. All one has to do is look at the Project for a New American Century’s statement, whereby they were calling for a “new Pearl Harbor,” to justify the securing of all of the Middle East’s oil resources.

      This was a big set up. If it wasn’t a setup, they let it happen on purpose. Plenty of advance warnings have been admitted, yet nothing was done at all to prevent it. Why? Nobody was accountable. No one lost their jobs either.

      And posting videos, speaking out and asking questions will only help solve the 9-11 riddle faster. Should people not do anything to share information instead? Should they not get involved and just sit around patiently waiting for the next one to happen? In your world, it's better to be silent and complacent while sitting idly by, twiddling your thumbs, lest be accused of spewing useless propaganda that helps divide the people. Or playing into the neocons hands. Heaven forbid someone take a stand to offer information or opinion that contradicts the official story!

      If anything, videos like the submission are enlightening. They present insightful counterpoint and get people to question their perceptions of what they have been programmed to believe. This really does raise alot of questions that people really can't ignore. Not only that but the answers to most of the questions tell us that the American government had something to do with this, unless you really do think that it was just a massive coincidence that everything happened on the same day.
      • 10stackz, on 07/29/2008, -4/+0You prove my point.
      • joshstone100, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3That's it? That's your response. A copout. You sound very smart. I am sure you win numerous debates with such depth and reasoning capability. You had no point. Only mock criticism of other peoples efforts to expose the 9-11 crime. Making blind assumptions about people you know nothing about. I would have expected more from a McKinney and Nader supporter. But that could have all been phony too. Now I see your account has vanished. Another shill using multiple accounts perhaps? Wouldn't surprise me.
  • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -3/+15More government = more problems. Thomas Jefferson was right 200 years ago.
  • cygnox, on 07/29/2008, -15/+12Caution! Tin foil hat area...
    • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -6/+10Wow that was original. So you believe Al Quada did it huh, that's an unproven conspiracy theory. Speaking of tinfoil, how about those 19 magical Arabs with box cutters? Those guys sure get around. Undetected at that! And such precise pilots of huge commercial airliners. Where did they get their training? The public has not been treated to any video showing any of the alleged hijackers at Boston Logan Airport, the origin of Flights 11 and 175, or Newark Airport, the origin of Flight 93. The FBI has outright refused to release any video from these airports that might prove that the alleged hijackers boarded the flights. No problem, we'll just believe them unquestionably.

      Somehow Osama Bin Laden, safe in his desert cave overseas, got the entire US defense system to stand down that day. He was able to bypass U.S. military defenses too, so the terrorists could carry out their attack with no interference. Talk about superhuman! Even the FBI doesn’t have any hard proof linking Bin Laden to 9-11. Check out their most wanted page. He's not even listed for 9-11 crimes. You think he would be? for the biggest terrorist attack on America since Pearl Harbor.

      On September 14th, three days after the attacks, the FBI announced the names of 19 persons. That sure was fast. Of course, these persons weren't already in a computer being tracked or anything. They just knew who they were, without a doubt. The FBI ought to get a medal for crime fighting at the speed of light. All the suspected hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon or Egypt. Yet we invaded and bombed Afghanistan, then went after Iraq. Of course, that is nothing to be concerned about. Don't bother asking questions. You don't want to be labeled as wearing a tinfoil hat. Move along, there's nothing to see here.

      Remember, only the Bush Administration has the authority to tell poor American sheeple which conspiracy theories are the accepted ones.
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -5/+9Caution, 9/11 denier honey trap!
    • algaeturd, on 07/29/2008, -4/+8I'm not taking sides on this because there's way too much that I don't understand.
      I do, however, find it kind of funny that the 'tinfoil hat' battlecry is about the best you can get out of someone who refuses to even look into the evidence in situations.
      The key to spotting a fraud is the overuse of a battlecry like that in lieu of some reasoning or logic to try to prove THEIR theories.
      That's it? Tinfoil comment? I'm going to have to side with the people on here who have actually written out proper theories and hypotheses. Sorry, dude. You definitely gave it a good shot..
  • rentmitchum, on 07/29/2008, -4/+6The government isn't a good thing! No sir! It's truly a bad thing! It's quite the opposite of good! It's bad, in fact!
    • joshstone100, on 07/29/2008, -1/+6*burp*~

      Your government does no wrong whatsoever! Never dissent or speak out. It's not trendy. You don't want to be unpopular, do you? Of course not! Why bother asking questions? Just make fun of people who do. It's the American way! Never bother to understand where anyone else is coming from but yourself. Give up more of your rights for government protection! Let them listen in to your phone calls, tap your cell phone and read your e-mails! Dick Cheney knows what's best for you. Just leave everything to the honest Neoconservatives. Look at all the good they have done for America! Our economy is booming, twofold! Our monetary system is more sound than ever. They will take care of you! The U.S. of A. is more respected around the world, thanks to George Bush. Democracy for everyone! War is good. We have to get even with those evil terrorists who attacked us because they hate our freedoms and way of life!!

      Americans have been psychologically conditioned to blindly accept what is happening today. I hope you’re not a representative group of the mean intellectual level of the U.S. If so, the U.S. will fall faster than those towers did..
      • Waiting2awake, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5I once got to ask a German-Canadian lady who was a little girl at the end of WWII. I asked many times about Germany and the Nazi's and how that could have happened to a group of people that always seemed to be so polite, nice and kind(At least to me). She told me that they, the citizens, really had no idea how bad things were. They knew there was a war, they knew they were no "losing" the war, but they had no understanding of the ovens, of the camps, etc, etc...

        I always thought that she was just embarrassed (Who wouldn't be?) so she made up the lie.

        Having watched America in the last 7 years, I can clearly see she didn't lie to me at all. The more patriotic a nation is, the easier it is to fool.

        Current American citizenry, prove this to the nth degree it seems.
      • rentmitchum, on 07/29/2008, -0/+4Was that a reply to me? Because I clearly said that the government isn't a good thing, in fact, I said it was a bad thing!
      • SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -0/+4@Waiting2awake

        The passing of the "Patriot Acts" and the forming of the corporation "Homeland (in)Security' in the wake of 9/11 does mirror Hitler's exact tactics with the Reichschtag ...No matter what you "believe", only an imbecile could not see that obvious comparison...

        The Republican party used to be about conservatism and upholding the Constitution now its been taken over by Neoconservative war mongers who have no regard or respect for the rule of law. They are looting Iraq for their corporate war.

        Read the 'Project for a New American Century', a "think tank" that both Cheney, Rumsfeld and several other top government officials are devoted members of. In the PNAC document, they dictate there whole outline for domination of the Middle East and oil fields long before 9-11 or the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

        One of the core missions outlined in the 2000 report Rebuilding America's Defenses is "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars." The report also states: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor"

        9-11 Happened. America was Pearl-Harbored. Coincidence?
  • Lynx55, on 07/29/2008, -8/+4Coincidence theories??? *sigh*
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4Yes. The theory that every level of government (and the structural integrity of three skyscrapers) could coincidentally fail simultaneously.
    • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -3/+1Lynx55's point is that just because you can say that there are alleged "coincidences" doesn't prove your point. They aren't coincidences either.
  • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -9/+15What a bunch of *****. I saw nothing in that video that was solid evidence for a 9/11 conspiracy. It was a lame series of anecdotes, opinions, and unrelated events of the past - nothing with any factual evidence and there was absolutely no scientific rigor or investigative skills applied. This ***** is getting old; "Loose Change" was already debunked a long time ago by people who actually are knowledgeable in their field of study, not tinfoil hat-wearing nutjobs.
    • algaeturd, on 07/29/2008, -8/+6""Loose Change" was already debunked a long time ago by people who actually are knowledgeable in their field of study, not tinfoil hat-wearing nutjobs."

      ie: a group of people who work for a magazine that is owned by one of the richest corporations in the world who banged the drums for war with Iraq.

      What? You didn't make a foolish comment like that without doing your research did you?
      Of course you did.
      And extra points for the 'tinfoil hat' comment. That could ONLY come from the mind of a reasonable, logic, educated adult.
      Seriously. I believe that. Really. You sound very educated and very well informed. Honestly.
      • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -3/+2"ie: a group of people who work for a magazine that is owned by one of the richest corporations in the world who banged the drums for war with Iraq."

        I never told you where I got my information from. But blind accusations and assumptions make *you* sound very educated and well informed. Honestly.

        http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.h ...
    • Waiting2awake, on 07/29/2008, -6/+2You make dictators smile. Gunsalute.
  • GhostyBoy, on 07/29/2008, -6/+8So let's take a look at the 4 general schools of thought on 9/11 realistically:

    1. All sectors of the government and military did everything right but were outsmarted by hijackers.

    2. The government ***** up the whole thing, and due to beauracracy, communication breakdown and gereral incompetence they failed to defend America.

    3. Let it happen on purpose: Certain key officials had forknowledge of the attacks and let it happen so they would have a catalyst to further their own agenda.

    4. Made it happen on purpose. The towers were rigged for controlled demolition as a catalyst to further the ambitions of the PNAC crowd.

    In my opinion number one is ridiculous. From Bush sitting around like a jackass, to the ignored warnings to the EPA declaring the air around ground zero safe to breathe and countless other mistakes.

    This is for fervent flag wavers and people who don't bother to look into the facts.

    Number 2 I could believe, because government can do some dumb *****.

    Number 3 isn't as unrealistic as you might think. Keep in mind it could only be a few key officials, skilled in the art of conspiracy, leaking information or ignoring an element of their duty at a certain time or anything like that.

    To me you would have to be crazy to completely discount the possibility that at least a couple of people could have known and stabbed America in the back for profit.

    But of course, the supposedly "crazy" school of thought is number 4. Inside job. I've heard some pretty far-fetched and elaborate "debunking" but seriously ask yourself:

    What does Occam's razor say about this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo

    2. The government ***** up the whole thing, and due to beauracracy, communication breakdown and gereral incompetence they failed to defend America.

    3. Let it happen on purpose: Certain key officials had forknowledge of the attacks and let it happen so they would have a catalyst to further their own agenda.

    4. Made it happen on purpose. The towers were rigged for controlled demolition as a catalyst to further the ambitions of the PNAC crowd.

    In my opinion number one is ridiculous. From Bush sitting around like a jackass, to the ignored warnings to the EPA declaring the air around ground zero safe to breathe and countless other mistakes.

    This is for fervent flag wavers and people who don't bother to look into the facts.

    Number 2 I could believe, because government can do some dumb *****.

    Number 3 isn't as unrealistic as you might think. Keep in mind it could only be a few key officials, skilled in the art of conspiracy, leaking information or ignoring an element of their duty at a certain time or anything like that.

    To me you would have to be crazy to completely discount the possibility that at least a couple of people could have known and stabbed America in the back for profit.

    But of course, the supposedly "crazy" school of thought is number 4. Inside job. I've heard some pretty far-fetched and elaborate "debunking" but seriously ask yourself:

    What does Occam's razor say about this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo
    • Hortnon, on 07/29/2008, -5/+7"What does Occam's razor say about this:"

      That the video, when edited like that, looks similar. That's all.
    • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1Occam's razor says that you've never seen this picture http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7_Smoke.jpg

      which shows the extent of the fires in WTC7 which completely compromised the building. I've never seen this on a "controlled demolition."
  • mikesbaker, on 07/29/2008, -6/+8Here is a major coincidence. Bin Laden tried to blow up the WTC in 1993 and then vowed to finish the job. I guess Bushco planned that one too from Texas /s.
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -3/+7The 1993 bombing? The FBI did. That's a matter of public record.
      • tykwondingo, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5Good call Hangly!
      • Hangly, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5Seriously, is that a conspiracy theory? I thought that was common knowledge.

        What about the opium wars? Conspiracy theory or historic fact? I get so confused, I should watch more TV.
  • trooftard, on 07/29/2008, -9/+1LOL TroofTards
  • theShadow51, on 07/29/2008, -0/+6Everyone is forgetting the apartment bombings in Russia in 2000 which started the Second Chechen War, performed false flag by the FSB security service.
    • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -4/+1Yes, we are, because they're irrelevant to 9/11, which wasn't a false flag op.
  • MrRabbit, on 07/29/2008, -6/+4At least noone over the age of 14 believes this ridiculous b.s. They'll grow out of it one day.

    And if they don't they can just sit in their basements and fear all the big corperations that are trying to kill everybody or whatever thay say.

    Please... PLEASE tell me to do my research. Quick impression: "DO YOUR RESEARCH!! Go watch this documentary that these infallible guys made in their dorm rooms on why McDonalds chickens caused Bush's cocaine habit which led to 9/11!! It's true you uninformed and uneducated Republican!! I did my research 'cause I watched somebody elses research!! THAT COUNTS AS RESEARCH!! I am so smart! Smrt!"

    You. Are. All. Idiots. You've fooled yourselves into believeing these very stupid ideas because that's what weak minded people do. They blame the government. Grow up.
    • NinjaBanana, on 07/29/2008, -2/+5The weak minded refuse to question the status quo.
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5"The superior man always bends his ear to what is radical." --Mencius.
      • Hangly, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3Ok, who buried Mencius?

        Not cool, man. Not. Cool.
    • BaseballGuyCAA, on 07/30/2008, -0/+4Yep, because ad hominem attacks against anyone holding a particular viewpoint make the viewpoint false.
  • Reaktor5, on 07/29/2008, -3/+5Everyone here really believes that the Bush administration has the smarts to plan something this massive without at least ONE dude coming out and saying something? They aren't even capable of falsely going to war or even torturing people without ***** coming out about it.
    • Hangly, on 07/29/2008, -0/+6a) Bush, no. The Bush administration? Certainly.
      b) Plenty of people have come out and said things. Sadly, whatever position they once held and whatever they might know, once they open their mouths they become "truthers."

      Google former Naval Intelligence officer Lt. Mike Vreeland. He was someone privy to the plot who tried to warn people.
    • apena89, on 07/30/2008, -0/+4lots of ***** comes out, nobody does a damn thing. and of course, the media doesnt show whatever blunders the bush administration may make.
      >:(

      Congress expects economy to fall before 2008. And a revolution/civil war early 2009. I am a bit afraid because not only will life become a mess, but i also want to play Killzone 2 and I don't want to miss it for the world! :D
      • Hangly, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5That's what people get when they delegate their responsibility to inform themselves to some some anonymous entity.

        Actually that's what people get when they delegate any responsibility to someone they don't know. Screwed.
  • mahsah, on 07/29/2008, -6/+2OH BOY TROOFERS
  • CptBuck, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1Ok, the ***** starts in under a minute.

    Northwoods called for real planes filled with fake passengers to be destroyed without causing any real civilian harm in order to cause a war with an enemy everyone knew (Castro) and this plan was strongly and emphatically rejected. Truthers propose that this plan is evidence that the government carried out a real plan with real civilian deaths and the destruction of building (which Northwoods never talked about) and blame it on an enemy America had either ignored or never heard of (Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban.) They even zoom in on the part where it says "we could blow up a drone. (Unmanned)" I LOLed.

    When they zoom in on Hijacking they're quoting out of context. Today hijacking is a deadly affair, in the sixties in that document they refer to it as as "harassing."

    The Hitler arguement is all wrong. The German political discourse at the time was focused on a debate between communism and facism, a debate which the fire ended because Hitler was able to consolidate power. The fire in 1933 predated the war by 6, count 'em, 6 years, during which time Hitler largely justified them with general Nazi philosophy. The Irony is that Hitler DID have a false flag operation against Poland, which they don't mention here, presumably out of ignorance.

    Neither the Lusitania, nor the attack on Pearl Harbor, nor the Gulf of Tonkin incidents, were false flag operations, so calling them "No Different is wrong." Also their implications about our being complicit in them is either false or debated. E.g. the Lusitania was running guns, but the Germans didn't know it and sank it as a result of their unrestricted sub-warfare policy. The "allowed pearl harbor" thing is silly and based on a misunderstanding of how different departments (say, signals intelligence in the pacific versus observations by military personnel that together might have meant something.)

    Around minute 4:00 they go Ad-Hominem, including, hilariously, quoting some old people at a protest. One guy says we've never gone to war unless we're tricked. What? Thats demonstrably false, were we tricked into believing that Germany had declared war on us after pearl harbor?

    5:25 (U.S. supporting 'terror') fine but that's an issue of semantics and doesn't provide evidence for your other claims.

    5:30 the guy states a hypothesis which, if true would be valid, but provides no evidence.

    6:20 You're making this accusation based on an obscure British army officer in Kenya? Also, the Mau Mau are hardly comparable to Al-Qaeda. He starts talking about Arab Nationalists as a comparison, but no one has equated the two to my knowledge. Who has accused Chavez of being in Al-Qaeda (of any repute?)

    8:05 You're right, the conspiracy was that of Al-Qaeda's attacking us.

    More equivocating about Gulf of Tonkin. 9:20 thats an absurd account of the investigation into Al-Qaeda, she's just plain wrong.

    9:49 "we always find something..." Really? How about the Beirut embassy bombing, which was almost certainly carried out by Iranian operatives working under the auspices of Islamic Jihad (if Bob Baer's book is credible, which i think it is) and yet no official explanation nor any action was ever taken.

    Nice Illuminati Eye at the end.

    I think I've pretty much refuted all their claims, any questions?
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