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- califortune, on 10/11/2007, -11/+81I put on another pot of coffee, while the last of us finish waking up... Red pills are in the cabinet; Codename V masks on the counter.
- sweetleaf10, on 10/11/2007, -11/+68But wait, I thought a third of the building was "scooped" out and thats what casued the collapse? You mean, Jim Meigs is a liar? Noooooo way, he wouldn't lie, he works for Popular Mechanics.
- RonPaulRevolter, on 10/11/2007, -11/+54WTC7: The Smoking Gun
- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2073592843640256739
Audio from this security official (who was interviewed by the 9/11 Commission, to be revealed in the film LC:FC)
- http://prisonplanet.com/audio/190607clips2.mp3 - soulexchange, on 10/11/2007, -9/+48WTC 7 collapsed in 7secs at free fall speed
WTC 7 was not hit by a plane
WTC 7 was a controlled demolition
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html - Look4Truth, on 10/22/2007, -15/+53How sad. I wish you guys would actually do the research about 9/11. I used to think it was all crap too but watching building 7 come down Vegas-style changed that for me. There are pages and pages of problems with 9/11 but you can't see any of them unless you're willing to open your hearts and minds.
- vabech311, on 10/11/2007, -11/+45Anyone that watches building 7 fall, knowing it was hit by no plane- must know it was a demolition job. Seriously people, use your brain and forget the government propaganda. Trust your eyes and your brain NOT the government.
I cannot wait for Loose Change Final Cut to come out! It will prove to anyone that is brave enough to watch it that 911 was an inside job. - Jrogan, on 10/22/2007, -15/+47"I have, and I have disproven every single claim you nuts make.
EVERY SINGLE ONE."
Sure you have.....What an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -10/+38... Except the witness himself says he heard explosions and had stuff cave in on him BEFORE the towers collapsed. Who should we believe, a primary source or a secondary source? Hmmmm.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/22/2007, -9/+36@sonofdy1
"I have, and I have disproven every single claim you nuts make."
You have proved only that you are a government spook who is paid to ridicule the truth on digg.com. Hopefully you don't earn more than a penny per post, because otherwise you are overpaid for your "insight."
You are a sad individual who will one day reap what you have sown. - vabech311, on 10/11/2007, -8/+34The fuel tank theory was a lie from the beginning and has been admitted. Even the 911 commission admitted they had no real explanation for why it fell. And if your retarded theory were right it would have BURNED not just collapsed perfectly.
A loon? Do yo realize if 911 never happened we never could have invaded Afghanistan or Iraq? That Halliburton would have missed out on BILLIONS of dollar in contracts. Throughout history wars have been waged for less.
And if you need a wkae up call research the Guld of Tonkin incident, which our own governmant admits never happened and that is how we entered Vietnam. - Jrogan, on 10/11/2007, -10/+35"Um...didn't WTC 7 contain numerous fuel tanks for generators to supply the "command bunker" with power in the event of the grid going down? Weren't numerous fires reported in the building after flaming debris came down on top of the building? Is it safe to assume that many windows were broken by debris?"
The conditioning of these people minds is astounding. Yep that must be it.....6.5 seconds, completely in its own foot print, 47 story steel-frame building...."fuel tanks for generators"....hahahahahahahahahahahah, this is the extent of the dumb masses we face..... - amishdigger, on 10/11/2007, -6/+30beware of a "con man" folks. Anyways, lets put this guy to the test if he has "smoking gun" proof about WTC7 - the truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny.
We *did* have good examples of 9/11 credibility, such as William Rodriguez. People didn't believe him when he spoke of a basement explosion. Then lateron guess what there was fellow worker found who had been *wounded* in this very explosion. That's what we need here - confirmed testimony. - Jrogan, on 10/11/2007, -7/+31Debunked? Are you serious....................haahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah
What a fool! That's like saying you debunked WTC controlled demolition by citing 9/11 commission report on "pancake collapse"....hahahahahahahhaah - truthsearcher, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Give me a ***** break!! Every Government Agency ***** up before, during, and after 9/11 and you still think it’s incompetence.
- greenback1, on 10/11/2007, -8/+29Between WTC 7 and the colossal WTC towers were WTC 5&6. Both of those building were directly below the towers and withstood the brunt of the collapses and sustained massive structural damage from debris and fire, yet they managed to stay standing and weeks later had to be taken down by controlled demolition. While WTC7 some 250 yards away from the colossal towers received minimal damage and collapsed completely into its own footprint in less than 7 seconds - free fall speed. World leaders in the Demolition Industry have stated that WTC 7 is undeniably a controlled demolition. The debate about whether WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is resolved. The real debate is why people choose denial in the face of bad news. It's sad and often best understood in a family situation which is suffering from incest abuse. Too often, family members deny the horror and continue to let a child be abused simply because they cannot face the fact that one of their trusted family members is a predator and causing serious damage to an innocent. Wake up people, your future and your children's future are in jeopardy. Allowing the individuals in power to get away with mass murder of citizens will only open the way for more destruction and more mass murder. Stand up and defend yourself and your family.
- whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -10/+30The fact remains that the time-line you cite is a secondary source while the eyewitness primary source, who has eyes and ears to perceive a building collapse, claims otherwise.
- soulexchange, on 10/11/2007, -8/+28Because there is legitimate evidence that would make even a 3rd grader question the official version
9/11 Was an Inside job
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html - depburns, on 10/11/2007, -7/+26Don't waste your breath on people who are so committed to the official lie that piles and piles of smoking guns will only cause them to insult and belittle. They are angry because their world of smoke, mirrors, myth and fantasy is collapsing around them, their world is dying in agony and with it their identity, their power and the very foundations by which they view life. They have nothing of value to add to this discussion, wipe the dust of their little minds off your shoes. Move on to the next task of letting people who are more intelligent and more open to understanding the truth know about this information asap, keep the forward momentum going. The more people learn about these bits of information, the harder it is for the criminal globalists to launch another 911 or otherwise cripple what is left of America. And they are scrambling to do so. With the immigration bill they seek to both flood the US with people committed to seeing America die as well as implement in law the SPP/North American Union. As Mr. Blair expressed last week, they also seek to shut down the web so that open and honest analysis of the events of the day are silenced, and they seek to do that because the alternative media is kicking their fat ass repeatedly and convincingly. These little macho-bullies are all piss and vinegar when you can't see or smell them -- thank God for that -- but really they are cowards with no soul, no integrity and no intelligence. They are unimportant!!! Ignoring them will just highlight their impotence and allow you to focus your efforts on more rewarding and effective activities. Get the word out about this story!!! And hold onto your hats, we are about to enter a time almost unparalleled in history.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25We're entering a very dangerous time. The wheels are falling off the official lie, and it's just a matter of people being exposed to the information. I believe another "terrorist attack" is at hand. Time is short, get the word out!
- whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -7/+26OK then, show me testimony of those around him in that time frame that SPECIFICALLY CONFLICT with what he said.
- holisticgirl, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23COVEN STATED:Um...didn't WTC 7 contain numerous fuel tanks for generators to supply the "command bunker" with power in the event of the grid going down? Weren't numerous fires reported in the building after flaming debris came down on top of the building? Is it safe to assume that many windows were broken by debris?
I'm new here, so indulge me....IF it were fuel tanks, which are usually situated pretty deep in a buildings basement...then how exactly did the explode? They would need to bypass the security and safety precautions that are par to building code, correct? And then they would have had to be ignited, again, bypassing emergency shut-off switches, etc...Nevertheless, an intelligent person would have to agree that falling debris 'Could' cause the 'tanks' to explode, fair enough. But, that would denote that the debris would have fallen THROUGH the 8-10 Stories of that building, to make contact with those 'fuel tanks', correct? Hence, how can an intelligent person conclude that that occurred, what evidence does that person have to substantiate that? So in the case of bld 7, well, if you listen to the fireman in the building, that clearly state that the fires were pretty mild and controllable and given the precautions that would ARE necessary to protect an entire building FROM fuel tanks just arbitrarily exploding, even in the event of fire.....ummmm....I'm not seeing it and would love your take on that. Be calm, and be objective rather than hysterically adamant, tossing off self-perceived witticisms and please address this issue, k. - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+25I choose him because of the unlikelihood that he misreported a friggin tower collapsing! I don't choose the secondary sources because I don't know who developed that time-line. All it takes in one credible witness to shift it.
- Bankal, on 10/11/2007, -9/+25@ Coven
Yeah cause governments never ever kill people. They are inherently good and never hurt anyone. :P - MrGrinchstick, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21All you Dim Sum doubters need to realize that this man was in the Emergency Operations Center (WTC7) BECAUSE HE WORKED THERE! (for the City or was summoned by city emergency officials)
Ive heard him on many occasions but he was assumed to have been in the towers, but after these guys tracked him down they realized he was in WTC7....and he heard and felt explosions on the 8th floor!!!!!!
No matter if there was a boiler fire it could not have melted steel. (and a boiler fire would not have wrecked the lobby)
Also he testified before the 911 cover-up/commission, and they didnt seem interested... - snowball69, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21(true story) - I used to be paid in my very early 20s to run a plant which burned waste hydrocabons so I have first hand experience of doing reckless and stupid things of youth in those laid-back 1970s with vast amounts of fire and steel which more mature hands might never try. I can tell you now that *conventionally aspirated* avgas would have a serious problem causing any significant structural impact on the WTC core steel. We would use diesel (close to avgas which us Brits might call paraffin or yanks kerosine) to warm up before injecting very high octane waste hydrocarbons - but it struggled to be other than luke warm so we never bothered using it due to a) high cost and b) utter uselessness for warming up the plant which made it heavy work. Inks and paint solvents were preferred including waste such as Benzine, Chloroform and Carbon.Tet I did manage to melt the steel furnace in small spot locations several times however the temperature was heat-sinked and very close to the flame origin which caused natural hot spots and loss of refractory insulation. Even with total loss of refractory the heat dissipation from 1/4 inch steel plate meant that a 30 foot flame front would do little more than spot damage. Also. we had huge and very powerful fans to supply both primary and secondary air at a very high ratio of air to fuel. Hot fires require more directed air than fuel yet paradoxically, excess (secondary) air can be used to extinguish a fire - search for articles on US fire research using fans to force out fires. Toytown global science plays on the populist/simplistic/dumb myth of more fuel = better (hotter fire) - it ain't usually so. Excess of fuel to air causes a cooling effect. Try learning to tune a carburettor manually to find out and see whether lean or rich makes an engine run cooler or hotter.
The WTC fire as a flat fire dispersed across concrete would have suffered from insufficient primary to supply air to the flame front and probably an excess of cooling seconary air which accounts for the thick black smoke which are telltale signs of incomplete combustion. High temperature combustion of hydrocarbons goes hand-in-glove with a clean plume although some crap from the infrastructure could be expected. High temp=complete combustion=clear or white plume. Everyone knows this stuff but the debunkers are in a state of total denial. Any polluting crap would also most likely tend to reduce the amount of oxygen available depending on what type of material (plastic, abs computer cases, seats, polythene, polyethylene, polystyrene etc).
During tea breaks on night shift I and several other employees managed to have the steel stack which was denuded of refractory glowing orange at several thousand degrees. We eventually bent the 100 foot, or so stack quite visibly, but it was never in even the slightest danger of "spontaneous collapse". BTW This was caused not by normal combustion but contaminated waste water coolant (sewage usually) suddenly "changing phase" from aqueous waste to high octane solvent (close to petrol) - this being injected well after the flame front. A kind of afterburner effect which required a sprint from the refreshment room in a blind panic to shut off the fuel ***** before the plant shook itself to pieces as it thrashed and rattled - trying in vain to gulp primary air for combustion.
You may be able to make a B... O... M... B.... out of a lot of air and a small amount of hydrocarbon in an enclosed space - which is why I was always taught that safety-wise an empty 45 gallon drum is more dangerous than a full one but the idea of avgas gaining a high enough combustion temperature against the thermal dissipation gradient of the core steel structure is stuff directly from the twilight zone, CNN and pro-globalists at the BBC.
The only reasonable chance GWB and his cronies had of making this theory stick would have been to assert a "chimney" efffect inside the core at impact point but little or no evidence for this idea has been put forward and no evidence of the reqired massive+white or clean/lightgrey plume emitting from the very top/roof of the building have ever been shown on video of the towers. The spilled fuel would have also inconveniently fell down the open shafts to the next intermediate floor, breaching fire containment wherever it could and then spread the fire out equally on the lower floors rather than the top ones. (Shafts NOT open?? oh dear, that means a choked air supply then). Unfortunately this doesn't match observed evidence either so my money is with another cause for the implosive collapse and is based on personal experience of wrecking stuff with huge amounts of fire ;) - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -9/+22@sonofdy1
Well then I guess we play the waiting game. But I think the witness is obviously the friend of Mike Hess in your secondary quote.
@Herkimer56
Most of Alex Jones' data is either primary source (From himself witnessing stuff and getting it on camera, or from other witnesses), mainstream media, experts in their fields (Ray McGovern or Dr. Steven Jones), or Government documents (Operation Mocking Bird, Operation Glaudio, Operation Northwoods, North American Union meeting documents). I was skeptical of him at first, but he won me over with having the actual data behind this unorthodox theories. - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+21You disproved (Again with your proof crap) nothing. You simply cited a piece of secondary evidence that is weaker than the primary source. You also did not address the secondary source depending on it to gain its credibility in the first place - Your whole quote is based around the guy we are DIRECTLY quoting. Unless you can get a quote directly from those 3 firefighters or Mike Hess, you have not undermined what I am saying.
- whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+21And he gets by day to day on donations. What a millionaire!
- babcat, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17The evidence that 9/11 was an inside job is growing everyday! Currently, there is so much evidence that it's simply undeniable. How much evidence will there be tomorrow? My guess is so much that it forces people to start marching down the streets of every city in this entire nation peacefully demanding the truth from their government!
Lets briefly example just a few examples of the evidence.
1) No steel frame building has ever collapsed due to fire. Steel frame buildings have burnt for days and days without collapsing.
2) The twin towers were designed to withstand the impact of a large plane. A plane impact would NOT have caused a collapse.
3) WTC 7 collapsed even though it had very little damage and was not hit by a plane.
4) Collapsing buildings don't collapse at free fall speeds. It's impossible. However, the twin towers and WTC7 fell at free fall speeds. This is clear evidence of a controlled demolition.
5) The squibs from the demolition charges are very visible.
6) Liquid metal has been seen falling from the buildings and were found in pools beneath them after they collapsed. This is clear evidence of thermate being utilized.
7) There are countless witnesses of bombs going off in all of these buildings BEFORE any planes hit.
8) There are countless witnesses of bombs going off in all these buildings AFTER planes had hit.
9) Several authorities on the scene were telling people that the buildings were going to collapse when they had no way of knowing what was going to happen.
10) The owner of these buildings actually admitted he gave the order to have WTC7 "pulled." This meant that demolition charge would have had to be in these buildings for days. Rigging a building to be demolished is NOT a super quick task that can be done in a few hours.
These are just a few bits of evidence that clearly indicate 9/11 was an inside job. There is much more evidence. There is a ton of evidence. All one has to do is some simple research online and a flood of evidence becomes obvious.
9/11 was an inside job and we must all continue pressing for the TRUTH to be exposed! - btbalance, on 10/11/2007, -7/+19I love when people start of with "um..." - and then they go on to think storage tanks of diesel fuel could somehow cause massive failure on all the steel beams within microseconds....
look, just stick with "um.." and go back to whatever the hell you were doing before.. if you buy the diesel fuel theory, you're a complete fool.
http://www.ae911truth.org - holisticgirl, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15@ Horton:
Indeed!!!! Is THAT all you have? You're cute with your little inconsequential quips. Bring it on, with substance PPLLLllleeeaaassseee! - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -9/+21@Herkimer56
Or Steven Jones' research is good (As I am arguing for later in the thread) and he was booted because of pressure from the government on the school (Oh how they love government grants).
As far as your Alex Jones comments go, way to be completely broad and not address the specific documents and experts he has cited. - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -7/+19You demand a ridiculous level of proof. We have context (history of state sponsored terror), shortfalls of the original story, and eyewitnesses on our side.
- ShawnHunt, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14@holisticgirl
Best comment I've seen today. - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19@Herkimer56
No, it is not all dependent on demolitions. You have (And this is a repeat of what I said to sonofdy1) A) The history of government sponsored terror (Terror Storm). B) Shortfalls of the official story exposed by family members of victims (9-11 Press for Truth). C) Eyewitness reports of the day that contradict or are unexplained by the official story (William Rodriguez). D) Scientific evidence of a thermate footprint in the dust as well as all other tenable non-demolition theories concerning it explained away thoroughly (Dr. Steven Jones). - honestjoe, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17@sonofdy1
There are many more than just Dr Jones who are saying the governments story is BS.
Over 100 Architectural and Engineering professionals who Question the NIST report! http://ae911truth.org/
Over 140 Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report! http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html
Over 100 Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report! http://patriotsquestion911.com/
And almost 140 Professors Question the 9/11 Commission Report! http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html
And over 100 9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report! http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html
And over 70 Entertainment and Media Professionals who Question the 9/11 Commission Report!
http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html
And Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice http://stj911.org/index.html
And Pilots for 9/11 Truth http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
And Group of scientists, engineers and other professionals http://physics911.net/
I could go on and on but the point has already been made that the movement has been snowballing with more and more big names in government, media, science, law, engineering, and etc, joining everyday!
"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals." --Joseph Goebbels
Here are just a "few" examples of those who support Dr Jones in saying the NIST report is wrong and full of holes!
Mario Fontana, Dr Sc CE – Professor of Structural Analysis and Construction, Institute of Structural Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former Director of the Steel Construction Division, Geilinger AG. Author of more than 40 papers on structural engineering. http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html#Fontana
Joseph Testa, P.E., Civil Engineer Thousand Oaks, CA he has been published in the American Society of Civil Engineers Magazine and has had many awards from the American Society of Civil Engineers. http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Joseph+Testa%2C+P.E.%2C+Civil+Engineer&btnG=Google+Search
William Rice, PE – Professor of Engineering at Vermont Technical College where he taught engineering materials, structures lab, and other building related courses. Registered Professional Civil Engineer who worked on structural steel and concrete buildings in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia. http://digg.com/general_sciences/Why_the_towers_fell_Two_Theories
Charles N. Pegelow -- B. S. Civil Engineering, Lamar University B. S. Mathematics, Beaumont,Texas Use of following national and industry codes: ASIC, API RP 2A, ANSI 58.1 (AISC), UBC, DNV, ASME Div. VIII vessel. Has specific experience with the effects of fire on steel structures. With over 30 years of structural design experience on steel structures going back to 1972, member of The California board of Professional Engineers. http://www.911blogger.com/node/2257
David Heller, BS Physics, M.Arch – Architect and Builder. http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6/Dave_Heller.cfm
Jörg Schneider, Dr hc – Professor Emeritus, Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former Vice President and honorary lifetime member of the International Association for Bridge and Structural Engineering. http://www.iabse.ethz.ch/association/awards/honorarypres/schneider.php
Hugo Bachmann, PhD – Professor Emeritus and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. http://www.ibk.ethz.ch/emeritus/Bachmann/about/index_EN
Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member, Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers http://67.15.255.19/~c911sch1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=35
Thomas Spellman, B.Arch – Member, City Council, Lake Geneva, WI. http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html#Spellman
Commander Ted Muga, BS CE, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired Civil Engineer. http://stj911.org/
Richard Gage, B.Arch – Member, American Institute of Architects. A practicing Architect for 20 years who has worked on most types of building construction including numerous fire-proofed steel-framed buildings. Founding member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. http://ae911truth.org/aboutus.php
Dr. Robert Korol, PhD -- Professor Emeritus in the Department of Civil Engineering at McMaster University, was feted by 500 practising engineers from the region for his research work in the area of design of steel structures and in helping to develop sustainable cities at home and abroad. Hamilton-Wentworth's 1998 "Engineer of the Year" http://www.eng.mcmaster.ca/engalumni/macengineer/1999winter/engineerofyear.htm
H. Theodore Elden, Jr., B.Arch – Practicing registered architect in West Virginia for over 25 years. Now retired. Graduate of Carnegie Mellon University. Member, American Institute of Architects, West Virginia Chapter. Appointed Member of West Virginia State Board of Architects. Former Member, National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB), and Member, National Committee, Intern Development Program for Architects (IDP). Professional photographer. http://www.abodia.com/911/Articles/AIA_Letter_Nov_06.htm
Eric Douglas – Registered Architect in New York and California. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200612/NIST-WTC-Investigation.pdf
Jack Keller, PhD, PE – Professor Emeritus, Civil Engineering, Utah State University. Member, National Academy of Engineering. Selected by Scientific American magazine as one of the world's 50 leading contributors to science and technology benefiting society (2004). Awarded State of Utah Governor's Medal for Science and Technology (1988). Former member CALFED Independent Science Board. http://911scholars.org/
Ken Wrenn – Licensed Civil Engineer, State of North Carolina. http://st911.org/
Eric Hermanson, BS Engineering Physics, MS Engineering http://911scholars.org/
Doyle Winterton, B.ES (Engineering Science) – Retired Structural Engineer. http://stj911.org/
Heikki Kurttila, D.Sc. (Tech.) (Doctor of Technology) – Safety Engineer and Accident Analyst, National Safety Technology Authority (TUKES), Finland. http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/WTC7_collapse_examination.pdf
Jerry Lobdill, BS ChemE, magna cum laude, Texas Tech University – Retired Physicist Former Senior Analyst at U.S. Naval Research Laboratory. Author and co-author of several scientific papers. http://journalof911studies.com/letters/MoltenWhat2.pdf
Danny Jowenko – Proprietor, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V., a European demolition and construction company, with offices in the Netherlands. Founded 1980, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie is certified and holds permits to comply with the Dutch Explosives for Civil Use Act and the German Explosives Act. Jowenko's explosives engineers also hold the German Certificate of Qualifications and the European Certificate for Shotfiring issued by The European Federation of Explosive Engineers. http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html#Jowenko
J. Marx Ayres, PE, Professor of Mechanical Engineer, University of California, Berkeley, CA. Outstanding Engineer Merit Award, Institute for the Advancement of Engineering, ASHRAE Distinguished Service Award, Listed Who’s Who in Engineering & Who’s Who in America State of California Energy Award, http://www.jmayres.com/Home.html
Anthony Szamboti, BS ME – Mechanical Engineer http://www.phillyimc.org/or/2007/03/37818.shtml
Gordon Ross, BSc ME, M.Eng – Mechanical Engineer. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/NISTandDrBazant-SimultaneousFailure-WTCCollapseAnalysis2.pdf
Jeffrey G. Strahl, BS ME – Mechanical Engineer. Student Affairs Advisor, School of Engineering, University of California at Berkeley. http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-Conspiracy-Strahl30apr06.htm
Rob Steinhofer, MS ME – Mechanical Engineer http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=480683
Peter D. Morse, PE - Licensed Professional Mechanical Engineer in the State of Arizona. http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php
Grant Williams – Commercial construction with emphasis on seismic and structural engineering. http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html#Williams
Joshua Mitteldorf, PhD – Researcher, Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of Arizona. Former instructor of physics, math, astronomy, and evolution at Harvard, University of California at Berkeley, Temple University, University of Pennsylvania, LaSalle University and Bryn Mawr. http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jmitteld/
Michael Elliot, PhD – Teaching Fellow, School of Mathematics and Physics, Queens University, Belfast.
http://www.qub.ac.uk/schools/SchoolofMathematicsandPhysics/TeachingDepartments/PureMathematics/StaffList/DRMICHAELELLIOTT/
Bruce R. Henry, PhD – Professor Emeritus, Mathematics and Computer Science, Worcester State College. Former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles, General Electric Co. http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Henry
David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N.F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988. http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/
A. K. Dewdney, PhD – Professor Emeritus, Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario. Author of Scientific American's "Computer Recreations" and "Mathematical Recreations" section, 1984 - 1993. Author of over 80 scientific papers on mathematics, computer science, engineering, astronomy and biology. Author of numerous books on science and mathematics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Dewdney
Martin Walter, PhD – Professor and Chairman of the Department of Mathematics, University of Colorado at Boulder. Member, Executive Committee of the Rocky Mountain chapter of the Sierra Club. http://www.colorado.edu/math/earthmath/marty.html
Steven Jones, PhD – Former Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University. Retired in October 2006 to devote more time to 9/11 research. Principal Investigator for experimental Muon-catalyzed fusion from 1982 to 1991 for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects. From 1990 to 1993, Jones researched fusion in condensed matter physics and deuterium, for the U.S. Department of Energy and for the Electric Power Research Institute. Author of over 40 papers published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
Mike Hawryluk, BA, MAT – Professor Emeritus of Physics and former Division Chairman, Suffolk County Community College, NY. http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Hawryluk
Kenneth L. Kuttler, PhD – Professor of Mathematics, Brigham Young University. https://math.byu.edu/~klkuttle/
Joanna Rankin, PhD – Professor of Physics and Astronomy, University of Vermont. http://www.uvm.edu/~jmrankin/?Page=default.html
Judy Wood, PhD – Assistant Professor, Mechanical Engineering, Clemson University. Member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics (SEM). Co-founder SEM’s Biological Systems and Materials Division. Currently serves on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division. http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Wood
Garry Anaquod – Lecturer in Computer Science and Physics, First Nations University of Canada (formerly Saskatchewan Indian Federated College). http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Anaquod
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Kenneth Sowden, MA – Instructor, Mathematics, West Hills Community College. http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Sowden
Robert J. Stern, MS – Associate Professor, Mathematics, Pellissippi State Technical Community College. http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Stern
http://digg.com/politics/MIT_Engineer_Jeff_King_Says_WTC_Collapse_Was_Controlled_Demolition_video - honestjoe, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15Despite hundreds of eyewitness reports of explosions throughout the Twin Towers by doomed victims, survivors, emergency service personnel, reporters, and bystanders, the 9/11 Commission Report contains virtually no mention of them and entirely ignores them in its conclusions. Graeme MacQueen's analysis of oral histories of 9/11 taken from 503 FDNY survivors reveals more than 100 FDNY personnel reported explosions in the Twin Towers.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf
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The individual from the interview is someone who had to accompany the other guy (who now works for Giuliani): the "individual concerned was asked to report to building seven with a city official".
The "city official" is Mike Hess (who at the time was "New York’s chief lawyer who is also a longtime friend of Mayor Rudolph Giuliani"). The other guy is Barry Jennings ("a City Housing Authority worker").
Barry Jennings already in the past has tried to give his testimony to reporters as well as the 9/11 Commission (but was ignored, like many other witnesses).
Michael Hess never said anything about this and kept the "conspiracy of silence", and like he is now an assiociate lawyer of Giuliani & Co. (no longer NYC chief lawyer).
The part where Jennings is telling about the "big explosion" is already on record. Various movies show that footage already! Which footage was taken on the very morning of 9/11.....
But! Everybody up to now thought that the dusty african american fellolw from all the movies "Barry Jennings" was talking about WTC1 or WTC2 just confirming William Rodriguez' subsequent testimonies. NO, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WTC7!
Also revealing is the fact that Guiliani left WTC7 before these explosions took place. Why would he leave WTC7 when the command bunker was considered to be an extremely safe location? - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19The time-frame from your comment turns on the very person we are citing that claims he experienced explosions before the towers collapsed. If his specific testimony conflicts with the official time-line, then so goes the time-line.
- holisticgirl, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15Well, those of us that are intelligent and are able to read!!!
- Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -11/+21ex·plo·sion /ɪkˈsploʊʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ik-sploh-zhuhn] Pronunciation Key -
–noun 1. an act or instance of exploding; a violent EXPANSION or BURSTING with noise, as of gunpowder or a boiler (opposed to implosion).
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im·plo·sion (ĭm-plō'zhən) Pronunciation Key
n.
The INWARD COLLAPSE of a building that is being demolished in a controlled fashion by the weakening and breaking of structural members by explosives.
It's not rocket science... - Hortnon, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16"Facts" and "evidence" are overrated these days.
- whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+17I can repeat myself too:
... Except the witness himself says he heard explosions and had stuff cave in on him BEFORE the towers collapsed. Who should we believe, a primary source or a secondary source? Hmmmm. - NeuterGWbush, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16I watched a couple of films about what is being said and this German guy looked at all the evidence and he had doubts about all but building 7 when he watched it fall he stated that nothing but a controlled demolition brought down building 7, this was an company in Great Briton that did the tests.
Then there's the test where they burnt a steel structure for 24 hours and the steel didn't weaken.
But some people still believe that the fires were so hot that they melted the steel at the floors below causing them to flow like rivers of fire, even with all the top floors falling away from the, some hundreds of yards so, building. Where is all this weight that can cause the strongest part of the structure to melt and give way coming from? The floors above are either turned to dust or have been thrown away from the base.
Why did Condi say nobody could've thought that people would fly planes into buildings, when they were having that exact same drill going on at the same time it happened? CENTCOM watched and tracked the hijacked planes.
Then there's Cheney refusing to give the order to shoot down the plane headed towards the Pentagon?
Mr. Silverstien made big, owning the white elephant, the world trade center for only a few months and having to clean out all the asbestos out, very costly, but instead of all the costs he made a billion plus after owning them for a few months.
Firemen and police and so many others have come forward but we never hear about it in our news, wonder why? - earwigjoe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Looks like another red herrring of side tracking jargon... over loading this and so many megabites?? what is this delibratly ambiguous stuff?
Like the WTC own promotion video(which mysteriously dissappeared) explained.. an airliner would be like a pencil puncturing the outer fly screen.. doing no structural damage at all.. it was actually designed! for multiple airliner impacts..
The inner core was massive 4 foot columns 100mm thick steel
Oh I get it were supposed to forget all that now..... got ya! - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -10/+19All you did was repeat the secondary source without providing "testimony of those around him in that time frame that SPECIFICALLY CONFLICT with what he said". Who specifically, with eyes and ears, opposes the testimony?
- Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -15/+24Heh, last time I checked explosions "exploded" not "imploded". Fool...
- RackAttack, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15OMG. sonofdy1 & Herkimer56 have absolutely lost their marbles.
Either that or they are working for the spooks.
They're always on 911-Truth articles knocking them anyhow.
Just ignore them. - whorsiejmd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16Not my point. Stop abusing the terms proof and evidence. The evidence still makes the CD theory more PROBABLE (But does not PROVE it) due to A) The history of government sponsored terror (Terror Storm). B) Shortfalls of the official story exposed by family members of victims (9-11 Press for Truth). C) Eyewitness reports of the day that contradict or are unexplained by the official story (William Rodriguez). D) Scientific evidence of a thermate footprint in the dust as well as all other tenable non-demolition theories concerning it explained away thoroughly (Dr. Steven Jones).
- dukeeeey, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0&NR=1
- alice104, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Interesting how it's the same 3 people who have defended the official fairy tale on this and every other 9/11-related story on digg, posting numerous times as well. It's *almost* as though they were being paid to do so...
and what's up with "sonofdy1"? Was "sonofdy" already taken? Are there multiple "sonofdy's"?? (and "Herkimer's" too??)
Uh-oh, now I'm starting to spout ridiculous conspiracy theories (which don't exist). -
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