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- inactive, on 03/18/2009, -22/+71Legalize pot, all I'm going to say.
- Kent4jmj, on 03/18/2009, -9/+47I think this "crisis" was deliberately allowed to reach this level of severity. Never let a crisis go to waste is becoming very common and I think it applies here. The need for US military involvement is highly questionable. If we STOPPED putting our border patrol agents in jail maybe they would have the confidence to do their job.
Desensitizing the American public to the use of the military at home is something we should be thinking about. The military should ONLY be used when congress declares a war with another country. When are we going to follow our Constitution? - pookydirt, on 03/18/2009, -8/+34I'm just so glad it's finally coming to the forefront of public awareness!
- mu0p, on 03/18/2009, -6/+31Do we really want to set the precedent of allowing our military to engage in law enforcement?
- inactive, on 03/18/2009, -14/+33Legalize drugs and eliminate the violence.
- paulmer2003, on 03/19/2009, -10/+25***** that. One word: legalization.
- lieberals, on 03/18/2009, -2/+16The new Mexican American War!
- spyd3rweb, on 03/19/2009, -2/+15Make it legal for property owners to defend their border property against invaders, sounds like common sense to me.
- Barackalypse, on 03/19/2009, -2/+14US troops should not be on US soil unless they are fighting an invading army. I am, however, perfectly fine with them setting up a secure perimeter on the Mexican side and shooting anybody that tries to cross without going through customs.
- inactive, on 03/18/2009, -10/+21Sounds like "We the People" are in high %'s for this protection on the border,
but then again there are the idiots in WA DC that have to listen and do something about it! - DankNugzPlz, on 03/19/2009, -1/+11While true that they aren't only smuggling marijuana, marijuana is the main source of revenue since it costs so little to grow and can be sold for thousands of dollars.
- stubear, on 03/19/2009, -2/+11First of all, law enforcement isn't equipped or prepared to handle the situation emerging. Do you really want to turn our police forces in to paramilitary goon squads? I certainly don't. They have enough trouble with tasers as it is. Giving them Uzis and M4's is a recipe for disaster.
Second, military COULD mean National Guard. This is their main purpose anyway. The National Guard could augment Border Patrol agents on the border and present enough of a deterrent to ensure the drug wars don't spill over into the U.S. - 69fezz96, on 03/19/2009, -0/+9And married to a Hispanic gal to boot.
Calling someone a racist for opposing "illegal immigration" is a short cut to thinking. - Canadacdn, on 03/19/2009, -7/+15I'm all for the legalization of pot, but aren't most of these violent cartels in Mexico mostly financed by smuggling "harder" drugs such as cocaine? In order to stop situations like this, all drugs need to be legalized. It'll cause a hell of a lot less deaths than what we have now.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -4/+10Kind of like you Limeys militarized Northern Ireland?
- bonerfide, on 03/19/2009, -2/+8Mexicans have been invading our country for years.
- Patriot556, on 03/18/2009, -13/+19Unfortunately, "we, the people", are now facing a degree of taxation without representation which worsens almost daily.
With Bonehead Barry at the top, Napolitano at DHS, and Pelosi and Reid simply dancing in their dreams, there is no way that we will see action on the U. S. / Mexico border at the behest of Washington.
Instead of voting funds for programs like the "Minutemen" in Barry's big porkulus giveaway ... we fund La Raza, Acorn, Pelosi's salt-marsh mouse, and Harry Reid's high speed train to the Bunny Ranch. And "they" keep on screaming "yes we can"! - dsanonline, on 03/19/2009, -4/+9In most cases, I'd completely agree with you. However, this _is_ our countries border. I don't see why we don't turn it into one giant military base, to be honest.
- Ajajadude, on 03/19/2009, -0/+5Yeah...if Vegas were taking bets on drug cartels vs. average Joe, I think the drug cartels would be heavily favored.
Besides, my tax money is being spent on training people to protect me (i.e. National Guard), I think we should put that investment to good use. - 4answer2, on 03/19/2009, -0/+5It's Mexico's responsibility to inspect people and vehicles that enter their country.
It's time they start doing that on their own. - normlsparky, on 03/19/2009, -1/+6We will never know how much legalization will reduce violence until we try it. One thing is certain, almost 40 years of prohibitionist policies have not worked. These policies have created a very profitable black market and allowed the cartels to purchase some heavy firepower.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -1/+6When you elect your local congressman, do you elect them to serve their own agendas, or serve agendas that the people collectively decide on? If the majority supports it, then I think then the government should look into adopting it. If it presents a problem thought he hearings, that present it to the people to decide on it again.
I think strengthening our borders is definitely needed. It's simple...make Illegal immigration....ILLEGAL! Stupid Nancy Pelosi gave a speech today praising illegal immigrants and calling them PATRIOTIC. We can't hand out the American card to anyone--it degrades its value.
You come here illegally, you do straight back. You come here legally, then congrats, you are one of us. - Ajajadude, on 03/19/2009, -1/+6Civilian law enforcement personnel don't go through nearly the amount of training and conditioning (not just physically, but mentally) that military personnel go through. I trust the average soldier a hell of a lot more than I'd trust the highway patrol.
- trixdropd, on 03/19/2009, -2/+7While it's fun to think all "Billy Bad Ass", this is the same ***** people were talking about with iraq and afghanistan. You see how that went. War is not good for anyone, except the top government puppet masters that reap all the money spent on rebuilding. It's just Ultimately a Ponzi scheme...
There, I said it. - internetcoward, on 03/19/2009, -0/+5Brign them all home and then let them guard the border. I do believe that since the mexican government is corrupt as well as it's police force its fair to say that it is a leitimate threat that we need to deal with
- Ajajadude, on 03/19/2009, -2/+7That's the ironic thing here. The same people on Digg who get upset at militarizing the police are the same people who want the police to deal with it...who can't deal with it unless they're militarized.
- durruticolumn, on 09/18/2009, -2/+7
"Well, I doubt that's going to make them give up, turn in their weapons and get 9-6 job."
That's exactly what happened with a lot of the mafia. - lead2thehead, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4Yeah, it's easy to be self righteous about border patrol when you live on a giant island. And I'm pretty damn sure that your coastline is patrolled and monitored by the royal navy.
- odigity, on 03/19/2009, -2/+6Something else to traffic? Like what, prostitutes? Fine, legalize that, too. Gambling? Legalize that, too. What's left? Nothing. Nothing left for the mafia to do. The mafia only exists *because* we prohibit non-violent activities.
- Rdeck, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4You have it exactly right, wishninja. We have already been militarized to an extent that would horrify our Founding Fathers.
- durruticolumn, on 09/18/2009, -7/+11
Actually, pot represents the largest bulk of their revenues. Eliminate that, and you deflate them considerably.
A much better solution than using the U.S. military. - Jpatano, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4yeah i agree with Ajajadude.... we're already paying the military and national guard 24/7. why not have a rotation set up so that every so often a unit is on deployment for border defense duty ? Most countries actually do this. It's sort of normal in other countries to see the military manning checkpoints at the borders.
- WhiteHatTrick, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4How does that justify troops occupying our cities and towns and clearly violating Posse Comitatus? Why wouldn't they just guard the border? In fact, why did they shred the constitution to protect us after nine eleven but leave the borders wide open? Your television and government are lying to you. They aren't protecting you. They are protecting the interests of the global elite at the expense of your safety.
- maz2331, on 03/19/2009, -1/+5The smart ones just have the "Triple S" brand down there. (for the uninitated, SSS means "Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up"),
It's really easy to dig a hole in the desert...
Still, those who SSS are themselves just collateral damage in the War on Drugs. - catbeller, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3So many Mexicans have crossed and had children here (yes, and were here centuries before we white boys arrived - we DID steal the southwest states and Tejas from Mexico in the 1840's!) that they effectively can swing any election that would shut the border down. And do.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -3/+6I'd much rather a US soldier be on my street corner than a gangmember.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -7/+10This might sound good to conservatives but it is actually terrible news for freedom. No doubt they will love to have an excuse and a precedent to deploy federal troops on the homeland.
What we need is armed citizens and the end of the drug war, i.e. legalized drugs. - Patriot556, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3Vriess ... the "shells" remain in the tanks. How, when and where are people going to eat them?
- browwiw, on 03/19/2009, -3/+6Ok, let me preface by saying that I do believe that legalizing marijuana would take the legs right out from under the Mexican drug cartels. Also, I believe that the level of violence on the border should have been allowed to get where it is in the first place. Not to mention the supposed legality of using the military in a law enforcement role.
That said...it would be pretty *****' hilarious to withdraw combat hardened troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and watch them trounce these drug cartel *****. Let's face it, these are profit motivated criminals with no ideology or sense of nationalism to inspire them into holy war. They aren't about to blow themselves up. They wouldn't stand a chance against our very well trained and seasoned soldiers from the Middle Eastern theatre, who have been seen the absolute worst an enemy has to offer.
It'd be like swatting a wasp with a shotgun and I have to admit I find the idea entertaining. - DankNugzPlz, on 03/19/2009, -2/+5I do not support placing the military on the border.
- enantiodromia, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3i actually agree with you. what a weird day it has been.
- Jpatano, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3What exactly is violating our constitution ? Is it not our military's duty to defend our borders ? What difference does it make if the aggressors are a foreign military, or armed drug cartels ? I say if they cross the border unleash the full fury of our military on them. I guarantee they will not cross the border again. It's not about boogeymen. If they keep their little games in Mexico, fine. If they cross into the US, they get blown to hell.
I'll admit, I don't get how this is really a "crisis"... seems like the dfinition of crisis has been loosened quite a bit lately, but really who cares? Until it crosses our border, it's Mexico's problem. - Jpatano, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3Exactly! I was in the army, i took the oath. I don't understand how people cannot see that a bunch of armed drug cartels bringing their drug war into our country is a matter that the military is quite well suited to handle. Personally i would like to see MORE of our military brought back within our borders, and have a larger role in border security. We don't need a damn fence that the illegals are going to just cut holes in anyway. We need boots in the dirt patrolling our border.
Law enforcement is the cop on the street writing tickets, or serving arrest warrants. Do people really want to take manpower away from investigating murders and community patrol to send cops out into combat with foreign drug dealers ? - lead2thehead, on 03/19/2009, -2/+5This is not law enforcement. Defending our country from armed foreign nationals is EXACTLY the military's job.
- catbeller, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2It's also illegal. Or used to be, until Bush repealed the Posse Comitatus Act.
Troops were once used to kill union members and native Americans, lest we forget. - catbeller, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2Because we'd go broke, Soviet style. Because it's impossible. Because we don't have enough people.
But I will go with you on one point: that border should be closed. No other country would put up with the constant influx of aliens that we do. It's driven our wages down to unlivable levels and has turned our cities into powder kegs.
HOW to seal the border? I've no idea. It may not be possible. Life finds a way, always.
It's really about overpopulation in the Catholic Latin America countries, but shhhh, don't say it out loud. We're the lebensraum safety valve for the Latin population bomb, same way that France is for Muslim Africa. I'll go hide now... - Jpatano, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2You've obviously never served. Think of police officers as soldiers without the training. They get trained, don't get me wrong, but they have nowhere near the intensity of military training. I'm appalled at how many people have such a poor view of our soldiers. There is a certain amount of respect that should be paid to anyone who volunteers for a job that is inherently deadly in nature, that takes away many of their own personal freedoms, and pays very little, all in the service of others.
Here's my take... A lot of cops want to see "action" in their job... Nowadays, most soldiers have seen "action", and realize that it's not like in the movies. People die for real, and there are no stunt doubles. I would trust a 20 year old PFC over a 20 year old sherriff's deputy fresh out of the academy any day of the week. I have no disrespect towards police, and i don't mean this post to sound that way, but there is no comparison between the training they recieve and that of our military. - blinkerbug, on 03/19/2009, -6/+8I can't wait to hear the neoconservatives start using the Mexican drug cartels as the new boogeyman. "we need to bring our troops home to secure our border from this immediate threat"...
- Patriot556, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2A single AC-130 with 12ga flechette rounds and a few other of our surprises would stem the tide in less than 48 hours.
- geoffp, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2What is war, if not organized murder for a purpose? That seems to be what the drug cartels are doing, pretty regularly. The old ways of one state formally declaring war on another could be nearly over.
I think that if we really want to beat them, we have to take away their money, and kill their agents. Perhaps the war on drugs has failed thus far because we have done only the latter. To do the former, we must legalize and regulate. -
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