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- loudribs, on 10/12/2007, -20/+310And lets be honest about it, Bush is way ahead of any of those in the debarcle stakes. Lincoln may have been despised, but his legacy will be remembered in terms of emmancipation....JFK had the Bay of Pigs, but then again he was charasmatic, successfully displayed some first class brinkmanship in the missile crisis and it's amazing what assassination does to your posthumous popularity....FDR may have been seen as pinko bleeding heart by some, but at the end of the day he died just before winning the war, thus ensuring semi-cannonisation. Looking at Bush, I seriously can't think of anything that might endear him to posterity....tax cuts for the rich? Hardly a later day robin hood. Iraq? Well that makes the Bay of Pigs look like a picnic on a rainy day. And Katrina? A largely preventable catastrophy the exposed the grisly faultlines of institutional racism. Seriously, I'm not engaging in my default 'Bush is Bad' rhetoric here....I really can't think of anything good that he will be remembered for unless he happens to be struck down by some cruel illness or assassinated. Any suggestions welcome.
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -25/+294I will never forget the ten minutes of sitting dumbfounded when told of the attack on 9/11. Probably the last non-negative moment in his presidency.
I still cant believe we reelected him. We must look stupid to the rest of the world. - crgnetworks, on 10/12/2007, -28/+190@wild
I ponder the same thing myself:
"I still cant believe we reelected him. We must look stupid to the rest of the world."
We do :-(
Sorry world, I didn't vote for him, in fact 90% of my town didn't vote for him, so when the world invades the US, could you guys leave Austintown, Ohio alone? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -22/+139This isn't determining Bush's place among other presidents, this is just saying that right now, a majority of Americans want Bush out.
- mikesherov, on 10/12/2007, -19/+97"I still cant believe we reelected him. We must look stupid to the rest of the world."
Go watch "Jesus Camp" and realize that 25% of Americans describe themselves as Evangelical. It becomes really easy to see why Bush was re-elected. - DrTall, on 10/12/2007, -6/+75@birkoph. Maybe you're the one who needs to back to school: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood#The_subjunctive_in_English
- deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+66The problem with George W. Bush is an issue of denial, stubbornness and lack of accountability. How many times has Bush and company been caught in a lie? How many times the President told us one thing and everything else pointed to the exact opposite? It's almost to a point that it feels like every other word coming from his mouth is a lie. You can't have a leader who you can't trust.
Here are some examples of what I mean...
• Iraq with WMD's. Swore up and down of mushroom clouds and the whole bit. We find no WMD's in Iraq. Bush blames it on bad intelligence. What the hell does he do soon after, gives George Tenet, former director of the CIA, the Presidential Medal of Freedom?
• Katrina. All goes to ***** in region due to the failed levees. We are all seeing on LIVE television the government's lack of a rapid response. George W. Bush goes to the region, and tells now former FEMA chief Michael D. Brown, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."
• Rumsfeld. Great majority of the Generals retiring and coming out on the piss ass job Don Rumsfeld is doing as defense secretary. Two major military magazines call for his resignation. What does George W. Bush do? He proclaims, "I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense." Bush gets his ass handed to him in 2006 election, and guess what? Rumsfeld resigns.
• Iraq civil war. George W. Bush was claiming that there was no civil war going on in Iraq. Yet on a daily basis, military and the media are issuing reports of Iraqi ***** vs Iraqi Sunni mass violence.
• [Insert your own Bush mess up here]
What does George W. Bush think take us for? Total idiots? Does he think because he says one thing that we can't see the other side of the coin with our own very eyes. And we all know all the other stories (and with this administration it is countless). And don't even get me started with Dick "Shoot you in the Face" Cheney.
In the mean time, the entire world has been witness to this from a distance. All of them thinking, how stupid could Americans possibly be? But what they don't understand is the viciousness and the blind loyalty of the Republican Party and its sheep.
It got to a point that no matter what George Bush and company said, they could do no wrong. Anyone that saw the truth and spoke out was quickly discredited and labeled a liberal. If George Bush told them to eat a pile of ***** because it would "stop terrorism", they would have done it with a smile.
But it seems like now the kool-aide is wearing off. They are waking up and finding out that all that ***** that they were fed. Was exactly what it was and that was *****. Nothing more or nothing less. It had nothing to do with fighting terrorism or to help our nation. Much like a majority of the policies of George W. Bush during his administration.
Now more than half of Americans want Bush's presidency over. Funny thing not to long ago, more than half wanted him in power thus he was elected twice. So the real question is, how did the ***** taste like? Because at one point the Republicans couldn't get enough of it.
Can we impeach his ass already? Spread the word. "Let's Roll" ...
http://www.democratgiftshop.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi/571511948/liberal_shop/1174718 - xpliclt777, on 10/12/2007, -6/+64@ Baalzebub. Obviously you've never seen poverty. Put yourself in this situation: you're on welfare, have no car, no family, your only asset is your house (shack), you have a total of $100 in your bank account, and you're given the slim hope that the levees 'might' withstand a hurricane that you have yet to experience in person and really have no clue of its destructive capabilities other than TV and movies. You say to yourself, hell, if the hurricane hits hard enough to demolish what I DO have my life is over anyways, so you stay in your 1 bedroom hole in the ground.
I see this happen everyday.. I'm from the Philippines and the poverty that exists there is indescribable. Hundreds die from mudslides all the time, yearly, for as long as I've known. These people KNOW that mudslides happen during the heavy rain season and STILL reside in vulnerable areas, all due to living in poverty. Grinding poverty makes the line between life with no means, and life in general very thin.
In retrospect, I guess they 'did' have a weeks warning and could've at least saved enough money for a bus ticket or started walking. Then again, what's the point if your going to be homeless and broke.. - mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+63@CaptainBukko
"The rest of your points I agree with, but if you were looking for something positive that he could be remembered for I'd point to his handling of 9/11."
Are you kidding me? First of all, that look on his face when he was told about it was priceless. I mean, you are just told that some planes just smacked the WTC and killed a lot of people, and you sit there for what seemed an eternity before you decide to leave?
Add to that the disgrace that happened afterward. We never caught Bin Laden. He is out there right now, laughing his bearded face off at us, planning his next assault. Not only that, but we drug Iraq into this mess, citing that they "harbor terrorists" and totally playing the 9/11 card to get US support for this war. All the while the real victims of the tragedy are saddled with a bunch of pompous asses trying to erect some ***** looking tower at the same time they tell the victims families to piss up a rope on their simple demands for a memorial at the site. Drive by the WTC site today, and you see a *****, mud-filled pit. Its deplorable.
We had a real chance to change the minds and hearts of the people of the world. After 9/11, other countries actually cared about us, and wanted to lend a hand. Bush missed the best US Public Relations opportunity there ever was, and probably ever will be. Instead of turning this situation to good, he instead lead it straight to the toilet. Now, the world hates us more than ever.
His handling of 9/11 stunk worse than anything else he did. More than his tax cuts for the rich, more than his lack of foresight on domestic policies like universal health care or the cost of medications, and more than his apparent ineptitude at public speaking. I for one look forward to the day I can call him ex-president. - FyreGoddess, on 10/12/2007, -11/+66The 2004 election was a farce. Neither of the two major-party choices was a good one. There were a large number of people who voted for Bush because they figured they already knew how he was going to screw up, Kerry was an untrustworthy wild card.
In 2004 people still felt that there might be a chance to claim a "win" in Iraq. Katrina hadn't yet occurred. Rumsfeld hadn't resigned. There were a lot of factors that hadn't yet come into play.
It blows my mind that people have this assertion that no one is ever allowed to change their mind on political topics on the basis on new information without being assumed "wafflers".
Bush should at least take comfort in the fact that his remaining 30% of support is blindly, fiercely loyal. Probably in the minds of some, that makes up for the low approval ratings. - CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -5/+54Best explanation of the 2004 election:
"Lets face it, when you went into those voting booths you had a choice between 2 bowls of *****... the only difference was the smell."
-Lewis Black - UglieJosh, on 10/12/2007, -33/+69Every time you say something bad about Bush, the terrorists kill a puppy........................
Of course, by "the terrorists" I mean the GOP. - stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42@ Diggsonlyneocon
I'm not quite sure what makes me so clearheaded, but I clearly remember knowing and warning that Bush was bad for this country when his approval was in the high 50s even before the Iraq war. Well well well, it looks liek a lot of those people who supported Bush suddenly...DONT. What's the difference? ummm...if people like you caught on as quick as us liberals, we might've been able to save our country some dignity and not re-elect him.
btw, you were brainwashed by Karl Rove, who casted the Republicans as the "Evangelical Party"
...suckers - stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39@DeepDoo
I didn't see you mention Nixon in that article, which is funny, because in ten years we will be looking at Bush in the same light that we looked at Nixon, not FDR, Kennedy, Or Lincoln.
"I am not a crook" - baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38Loudribs, i agree with everything you say except for the Katrina hurricane that hit New Orleans, all the weather warnings were given, the mayor (nagin) could have done much more, all those buses sitting in that flooded parking lot is a prime example, he should have found drivers and bussed many people out days before, the Federal government can not baby-sit every city in the USA, it is up to local authorities to take matters in to their own hands, what did the people of New Orleans expect? a personal invitation to leave New Orleans before the hurricane hit?, the whole nation knew it was coming a week before it hit, people HAVE to take matters in to their own hands and DO SOMETHING beforehand, during tornado warnings i dont wait for the mayor or police to invite me to a storm shelter, i take cover on my own accord...
- mistercharlie, on 10/12/2007, -44/+71IMPEACH
- loudribs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33Because it what the rest of the world wants to hear. Despite what some may say, the bulk of non-US opinion is not anti-american....we just can't stand Bush. Hearing that you guys hate him as well is heartening and gives us hope that the worlds only hyperpower still has the capacity for good. I agree that it's hardly headline stuff, but after six years tearing your hair out on the side lines it does bring a limited ray of sunshine into the picture.
- awm4, on 10/12/2007, -30/+54I think that the % would be higher if the question was: Are you tired of hearing the results of opinion polls on the President.
Is it just me or does a new poll come out every other day saying basically the same thing. - stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -21/+45@analyze, I find it very funny that you compare Bush's lack of approval to Lincoln's, because last time I checked, half of the country was at Civil War with the other half when Lincoln was fighting, which automatically means a huge chunk of the population would be against Lincoln. George W. Bush's administration has been the biggest joke in history, except the joke is on us Americans. I almost pity Bush, because he is so clearly just a face/pinata for the neo-cons working behind the scenes in his administration. AGING ULTRA-CONSERVATIVES, which implies that they are stubborn about changing. Look at how theyve been completely embarassed with their old school war techniques in Iraq. Not only was this war complete BS, they didn't even execute it properly!
Bush got re-elected because of brainwashed conservative farmers and devout Christians in the Red States. I live in New Jersey so it's hard to imagine people actually REALLY LIKING Bush...it feels like being in a liberal bubble... I guess that's how the whole northeast is, especially the Boston to D.C. Metropolis. This country is not just the northeast, and the West coast...theres a whole lot bigger chunk of country in between that is still filled with people who are old-school conservative farmers and blue collar workers, and I won't say they are uneducated, but I will say that those people like in Kansas are a lot more concerned with the politics of THEIR village whereas as we get caught in the GLOBAL village. The result: apparently those red staters don;t question Big Government beyond what they say...n who cares as long as they stay out of their business.
I'm sure at least one Red Stater will try to tell me off about how I'm wrong and stuff, but I mean come on guys, the Red States helped re-elect a blatantly incompetent Administration which was OBVIOUSLY filled with scandals and I refrained from calling you poeple a bunch of morons. You shoudl respect the fact that I'm trying to rationalize what appears to be blatant stupidity. - biggrz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28@craigb12
by not voting for either, you essentially voted in the incumbent. - loudribs, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28CaptainBucko: Can I point you in the direction of Baalzebubs post a couple of threads below in response to the Katrina inquiry. As for 9-11, his response was pretty much what you would expect from someone in the White House in a time of unprecendented national calmity (although the whole 'My Pet Goat' incident was pretty unsettling). What is unforgivable is who he used 9-11 and the threat of terrorism as a blank cheque to go to war against whoever he saw fit. Not only that, but he also monumentally ***** those wars up, making the world a much more dangerous place for everyone. During 911, he did his job (just about). Whoptee-do....that's one crushing disappointment less. The rest of his tenure is nothing other than an unmitigated disaster that just appears to compound itself with each passing month. Be his appologist if you want, but history will judge him as dim, arrogant and dangerous.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Caps lock is cruise control for awesome.
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27The US citizens, slightly perturbed by annoying newcasts and marginally ominous economic foresights, might be "embarrassed" by president Bush and his cabal, in the mean time the rest of the world is pissed off as hell, or are actually having their entrails scattered all over the place by US exported weapons.
WE DONT HATE YOUR FREEDOMS - WE HATE YOUR POLICIES ! - CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -33/+50[loudribs terrorist rating goes up 4000 points]
Sorry world, I didn't vote for him, in fact 90% of my town didn't vote for him, so when the world invades the US, could you guys leave Austintown, Ohio alone?
@ The Terrorists
Please leave Boston, MA alone too please. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23"I will never forget the ten minutes of sitting dumbfounded when told of the attack on 9/11. Probably the last non-negative moment in his presidency."
Uh, non-negative?
That was a pretty negative moment in his presidency... not sure what you meant there. - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26You're.. you're comparing Bush to Lincoln, FDR and Truman? I'm not sure I can even wrap my mind around that.
- loudribs, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26I could. Even with my hands down my trousers, beer goggles on and lit cigarettes in my ears, I could still have a better crack at it than he. Whoops....looks like I just fell back into my default position.
- CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19There was literally 10 feet of water covering the whole city, and people literally had NOTHING (as in zero possesions left). I fail to see how you can blaim liberals for being angry when the government left the entire city marinating in sewerage for a week. This isn't a failure on the part of just Bush, but the entire administration (federally and on the state level). People need to stop crying democrat and republican and look at situations with some sort of intelligent frame of refference.
- numptydumpty, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21@ crgnetworks...
"Sorry world, I didn't vote for him, in fact 90% of my town didn't vote for him, so when the world invades the US, could you guys leave Austintown, Ohio alone?"
Made me laugh - but you're also missing another point. That in fact the rest of the world doesn't just go around 'invading' countries because they've done something to piss them off. It just seemed a very American way of viewing things to me.
However, if it's any consolation, we in the UK thought we'd elected a half decent government but unfortunately they lead us into the same unjustifiable war when the majority of the population were against it.
Politicians... who needs em. - diggsIt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Using the word 'masterfully', when discussing G.W. Bush, is so wrong. The only thing that I can think of that the man has ever done 'masterfully', was avoid the draft.
- broken1812, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2358%? Well, 100% of the 51% that beat the 49% out of the 70% think that 95%of these polls are 100% crap.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Not a talking head? You don't honestly think Bush is smart enough to make some of these decisions himself do you? He's Cheney's' puppet.
The guy is the biggest running joke in modern history. I often wonder what it must be like to be wake up and think to yourself...." 2/3 of the country basically hates me". Honestly.
08AMA - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"I still cant believe we reelected him." We didn't. Did you hear about that recent little thing with Ohio?
- fyre2012, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23So, if that many people want his 'reign of terror' over, than why don't they just impeach him? Oh yah, balls... that seems to be what's missing.
- dlite386, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Bush makes me feel embarrassed to be American. I voted against him twice. We can thank all of the people who voted for him for the wake of ***** he's leaving behind him. What a legacy.
- guiscard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Before Bush was elected, everything he had ever done in is life was a failure.
Why we put him in control of the most powerful nation in the world is beyond me. The fact that we did it twice is unforgivable in the eyes of the world.
At least he lost the first election.
Shame on us. - RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -14/+24You know what, I could care less what the world wants to hear right now. I do want the troops to come safely soon, and I'd like us to get out of Iraq as soon as the Iraqis are ready to take over. After that though, I think its time to go back to more of an isolationist country. The way it is now, everybody is lining up to take shots at the US. Even a lot of our so called allies. Let's just pack up our stuff, go home, and let someone else take their turn at being world police.
- ringave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Only 58%? That pretty low and disappointing man....
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"impeaching exists for punishing a president for crimes committed"
Seems like a home-run then. - PersonX2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I haven't heard of anyone that wants to impeach him for his public speaking skills. But lying to the American public and the world over and over again, stubbornly supporting an INVASION for oil that most people don't want a part of, Ignoring the constitution in the name of "security" (*****) i.e. the "Patriot" act....these and more are reasons to impeach him.
- conmulligan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15@wild
"I still cant believe we reelected him. We must look stupid to the rest of the world."
You can make up for it by electing someone like Obama ;-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Only 58%?
- logicalnoise, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooah *darth vader voice
- Hazardc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Clinton tried to go after osama and it's well documented. The republican congress wouldnt give him the power to do it
he talked about it a lot in his fox news interview not too long ago, that im sure someone of your political stance had a good chance of seeing, but chose to selectively listen to - southport, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12The sick part is that they think Bush is a great man. Hell, even Hitler had admirers.
- Xanadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Nurturing" bin Laden? Need I remind you that the Clinton Administration actually attempted to kill him? By contrast, Cheney - who chaired the administration's task force on terrorism - spent the summer of 2001 meeting with energy companies, and didn't convene a single meeting until September 10th. Last but not least, Bush and company ignored the urgent warnings from the CIA that an attack was imminent, A senior CIA analyst even flew to Crawford to brief the President, to which Bush responded, "Okay, you've covered your ass, now." (http://mediamatters.org/items/200608240013?offset=40&show=1). And don't forget about his dereliction of duty at Tora Bora.
The man is a disgrace. - mikepictor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Clinton was a much...MUCH better president than Bush.
Actually....most presidents have been better than bush. - SilverBack101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Duuuuuude. If that ever happened...well nothing would change...puppet master you know?
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9If wishes were horses...
dick cheney would probably accidentally shoot it in the face with a shotgun. - Xanadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The one thing from which Bush has largely escaped criticism is his documented failure to prevent 9/11. I'm not some conspiracy nut who thinks Bush was in on it, but his administration's incompetence, arrogance, and shortsightetness allowed it to happen. Somehow, the media and his supporters have given him a pass anyway.
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