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473 days of White House email missing

rawstory.com — There are 16 days of no archived e-mails from Sept. 12, 2003, to May 23, 2005, for the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, according to Waxman's letter announcing the hearing. There are a dozen days of no archived e-mails for the White House Office inside the EOP, starting Dec. 17, 2003, and ending on Feb. 8, 2004, Waxman's letter added.

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  • arrogantprick, on 01/18/2008, -2/+81Secrecy is the freedom tyrants dream of. - Bill Moyers
    • bballbackus, on 01/19/2008, -3/+4It said if I entered my email and password I would get free porn...
      -George Bush
  • headt0thebunker, on 01/18/2008, -3/+59Only people with something to hide......hide things

    • RyeBrye, on 01/18/2008, -11/+3I lose things on my desk sometimes... does that count?
    • TubaTechno, on 01/18/2008, -0/+24I think this is the only situation where an IT guy could potentially get the President impeached....
    • naiku, on 01/18/2008, -0/+8.....email retention policy please.
    • Smilex, on 01/19/2008, -0/+9everybody's got something to hide, 'cept for me and my monkey.
    • Groovemaster, on 01/19/2008, -0/+9Or, as George W. Bush put it in April 2004: "'A country that hides something is a country that is afraid of getting caught"
  • WeNeedTruth, on 01/18/2008, -0/+68I was wondering what had burned-up in Cheney's office fire on 12/19/07!
    • TubaTechno, on 01/18/2008, -16/+2You guys are nuts if you really believe that theory....
  • ChristPissed, on 01/18/2008, -1/+51It's not the crime; it's the cover-up.
  • dreamtiger, on 01/18/2008, -3/+55What missing emails? There are no missing emails. There never were any missing emails. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
  • dotlizard, on 01/18/2008, -0/+95i feel like i'm taking crazy-pills here. what? the *****? how are they getting away with this *****, day in & day out, lie after lie, scandal after scandal? can one of these idiots please get a blow job from an intern so we can finally get to the impeachment proceedings? what does it take?
    • MasterInsan0, on 01/18/2008, -0/+30Unlike a perfectly healthy blowjob, these actually-dangerous scandals don't register loudly enough on the public moral radar for there to be any sort of uprising.
      • GeneralFault, on 01/18/2008, -1/+5This is to complicated for the public to understand enough to get angry over. Most people are really really dumb. You can never be surprised at how dumb people can be. Just watch a few minutes of the news. One of those "can you tell me what tides are" or "do you believe in UFOs" segments can really ruin my comfort in humanity for a while.
    • Wargalas, on 01/19/2008, -3/+4Sounds like you're volunteering for the job of intern.
      • tcpip4lyfe, on 01/19/2008, -0/+3I'll take one for the team if these assholes go to jail.
    • Phatt138, on 01/19/2008, -0/+2Their Christianity, ironically enough, seems to have convinced their supporters that they're actually -less- responsible for their actions. I'm convinced that some people just shrug and write it off as dirty work done in pursuit of some intangible 'greater good.' If there's one thing that history's shown us, it's that governments will do as far as the people will let them, and 20% of our population is still rabidly supportive of anyone who goes to church - so much so that they'll forgive their obvious disregard for American laws. The new take on it (and, if there is a God, Huckabee will burn in hell for this) is that our laws are only those of men and that presidents should appeal to a conveniently subjective higher power when making important decisions.

      Sigh.
  • reeder, on 01/18/2008, -0/+18I'm sure they are working diligently to recover every single email! /sarc

    How far we have fallen. Time to start over.
  • jonthebishop, on 01/18/2008, -0/+51There are tons of government regulations on keeping backups of stuff like this. I know, I used to work in IT for the government. I highly doubt it was negligence. It seems like it had to have been on purpose.
    Hell, I work in IT for a university now and if we even lost a days worth of e-mails it would be a big deal and I promise you someone would loose their job.
    Wake up, there are criminals running this country.
    • ThrillSeeker, on 01/18/2008, -0/+16This is true ..and I used to work for a company that sold email archiving systems to the government. I think the law is that they have to keep emails up to 10 years. This is in addition to the copies on the client and the server.
    • Damien79, on 01/19/2008, -8/+2> Wake up, there are criminals running this country.

      You are the 1,000,000th American to use that useless line here.
      In other news, the mc rib is back and britney is a drunken slut, now that'/s news americans appreciate.
      lol@america.
      • headt0thebunker, on 01/19/2008, -0/+4Heres a thought.....why don't you do something for your country Damien79 and take one for the team.....you can volunteer to give Bush the blow job...
  • totorototoro, on 01/18/2008, -0/+59The Nixon Watergate tapes were only missing 18 1/2 minutes.
    • StarlessKnight, on 01/19/2008, -9/+1Nonstory. Criminalization of Nixonian behavior.
      • fantasticFlan, on 01/19/2008, -1/+2A lot of Nixonian behavior actually was criminalized after Nixon.
  • RyeBrye, on 01/18/2008, -0/+26They should use gmail... they could probably even get a discount on the hosted gmail options if they asked nicely.
    • katrayun, on 01/18/2008, -0/+26My email is more reliable than my government's... good to know.
      • h3lx, on 01/18/2008, -1/+14Everything I own is more reliable than the Government's.
  • kavery, on 01/18/2008, -1/+30Yet they'll get off scot-free for the 85th time. Crooked bastards.
  • warhar, on 01/18/2008, -8/+2man the world we live in today crazy
  • joshrice, on 01/18/2008, -1/+25Does that mean we can impeach the bastards yet? Oh wait... the rest of the government would have to grow a spine and a sense of right vs wrong first....
  • breadfred, on 01/18/2008, -0/+15Can a sysadmin please explain HOW DIFFICULT it is to lose emails? I mean, it is stored locally, on a server, on an incremental back-up, on a regular total back-up, which I would assume is the minimum in any organisation - and all traces of said email?
    • oldhick, on 01/18/2008, -1/+9Its actually not too hard. Depending on the complexity of your system, you're most likely using some form of Hierarchal Storage Management (HSM) with policies that say something similar to move anything older than 120 days off the SAS drives to cheaper SATA drives, after another 90 days of inactivity, migrate off SATA to tape.
      But they probably also have the "quick, wipe these emails from everything" program designed specifically for congressional inquiries...
      • breadfred, on 01/18/2008, -0/+6I just cannot understand that emails get lost from different media simultaneously. Surely all important information is stored on off-site locations as well as locally, and for really important applications in 2 differnet locations. I am sure that if ANY commercial company loses 18 months of email, there would be not only some serious questions to be answered but a complete FBI or-what-ever-governmental-organisation would sue them to death,
      • Izult, on 01/19/2008, -0/+2hello... this is the white house we're talking about here.. Do you honestly think that they're not going to have some of the best hardware available to them?
        • oldhick, on 01/19/2008, -0/+1Everyone has options available to them. Its how they choose to implement them that ultimately makes the difference. I've seen enough to know that government organizations with budgets that will blow your mind often choose some of the most ridiculous and antiquated technologies available.
    • AngeloM3, on 01/19/2008, -0/+5Very easy.
      Man in black shows up. Takes all backups and fully deletes everything. Points gun at Admin, "I was never here and you never saw me.". Man in black then calls President Bush, "Mr. President, it's done"

      I can't wait to move to Canada!
  • KPLL, on 01/18/2008, -0/+12I smell a rat.
  • tawny6812, on 01/18/2008, -1/+9That's damn near a year!! WTF??!?!
  • mpn401, on 01/18/2008, -16/+3You say it's a cover-up, but it begs the question: what are they covering up? ***** 9/11 conspiracies?
    • urbandistrict, on 01/18/2008, -0/+10Incompetence.
    • swrostmore, on 01/18/2008, -1/+19The request for the "missing" emails was part of an investigation into the leaking of a covert CIA agent's identity. To answer your question, they are covering up a conspiracy to destroy a CIA agent's career in retaliation for her husband's public statements criticizing the rationale for war with Iraq before the invasion.
    • jakeou812, on 01/18/2008, -1/+7If they're covering up 911 conspiracies, then the're not *****, are they? What was your point with such a stupid comment? If someones covering something up, you're not going to successfully distract anyone with such an ignorant comment.
  • jhails, on 01/18/2008, -1/+19Bush and Cheney have had been allowed to do what ever they wanted for 8 years. Why stop now. Hell why don't you all amend your constitution to allow them another term in office? What could it hurt?
    • MasterInsan0, on 01/18/2008, -2/+4Until 1951, Bush could have taken another term had he chosen to, and he would have been ever more hated for doing so.

      I say "had he chosen to" because obviously WE didn't put him there in the first place, so someone else had to have put him there. We most certainly didn't vote to KEEP him there for his second term, so that same someone probably chose to leave him in office for now, until their next (smarter) pawn could step up to the plate.
    • ChefGroovy, on 01/19/2008, -2/+3Since Bush was appointed in 2001 and not really elected, he should be able to run again.
  • ZenMojo, on 01/18/2008, -1/+11Where there's smoke, there's fire. Where there's fire, there's burning email logs.
  • tufftugg, on 01/18/2008, -3/+4I'm sure there are some 'diggers' that could help, hand over your HD boys.
  • lazyfisherman, on 01/18/2008, -2/+10It's truly incredible that they can make excuses like this. For any normal person, hiding, destroying or not being able to produce evidence would be a crime but for these guys it's just business as usual.
  • Punjabi4Lyfe, on 01/18/2008, -13/+8NO MORE AMERICAN SACRIFICE FOR ISRAEL!
  • kiwiboyus, on 01/18/2008, -2/+12I would really like to know how people who actually voted for these people again feel when they read this. I mean seriously, do any of you think "Damn that seems a bit suspicious?", or you trust them so much that you think they must have a good reason to make records etc just vanish like this? It just stumps me when I see people with there Bush 04 stickers on their cars still after everything that has happened.
    • PinkoComrade, on 01/18/2008, -4/+3You shouldn't worry about the Bush 04 stickers they will soon be replaced by Giuliani 08
    • jakeou812, on 01/18/2008, -3/+0They will just call *****, and not spend a second to confirm anything.
      If they know the crook in question or somehow talk to them, the crook will say "*****" and the sheep will say "well okay then!" If you put total proof right in their face, they will say "but it's still the best country in the world!" and completely forget the subject at hand. Or they will say "well, all politicians are bad!", as though that excuses the blatantly crooked traitorous politicians who do this for a living. I think if king george hit them over the head with his scepter, they would, in their last few moments of life, wonder, "why did he do that?, was there a good reason, maybey?", instead of realizing the dude just ***** hit me because he's a murderer.
    • ChefGroovy, on 01/19/2008, -2/+6There's still people with Kerry 04 stickers and he lost. Talk about pathetic
    • Stevanoski, on 01/19/2008, -0/+4I pick "they must have had good resons." God Bless the USA
  • paganmonkeyboy, on 01/18/2008, -3/+9Dear White House
    Are we to really believe this, based on the pathological lies we have seen coming from the White House ? This screams of cover-up and conspiracy, and Once again I hang my head in shame for my country and my fellow Americans.
    Tom Brennan Jr
  • christor, on 01/18/2008, -2/+25What more can one say? Is anyone really surprised? Years later, they'll ask how we could have allowed this. In 2000, too many of us assumed that it didn't matter who the President was - maybe even that Alan Greenspan was the real President. Why not pick the guy you'd rather have a beer with?

    Seven years later, we're lost. Not respected by much of the world. Overextended, financially and militarily. Not planning for a world where we may no longer be the sole superpower, the US has gone for broke, pushing what power we still have to its limits. And what do we have to show for it? Our nation has been run by a cabal of religious fanatics and antisocial, neoconservative nutcases. With the whole world standing with us in 2001 ("we are all americans now"), we pissed it away.

    Impeach them, remove them from office. Try them, convict them and jail them, if it's warranted. We may never truly recover from these disastrous years, but I'm willing to try.
  • JasonCox, on 01/18/2008, -2/+14Fraking hell, if I even lost a week's worth of emails at my last job not only would I get fired but the government would have come down on my employer harder then Diggers on pictures of scantly clad women.
  • pimpofpixels, on 01/18/2008, -1/+8All we've got to do is make destroying evidence treason and then this rampant evidence destroying won't work anymore.
    • MasterInsan0, on 01/18/2008, -2/+6Treason's a good one, because there's no "positive spin" on treason.
    • h3lx, on 01/18/2008, -2/+6what good is it to make new laws if we can't enforce the ones already on the books?
      We need to go ahead with televised hearings under oath. Get some charges filed, follow it up with some convictions and hammer it home with these assholes filling sandbags in Angola, LA.
    • jakeou812, on 01/18/2008, -1/+3At the very least.
  • V0lk, on 01/18/2008, -2/+14What in the ***** is going on inside D.C.?? I'm so sick of seeing stories like this come out like every other day. What is it going to take to make these politicians realize that THEY work for US? And I certainly don't condone this *****. It's time to get our torches and pitchforks ready.
    • jakeou812, on 01/19/2008, -3/+3We're a bunch of sheep, made fat and lazy consuming more than any other country. Rome was very strong, but they became like us. Rome will fall again. I want to move to a better country before that happens, but I don't know if they'd have me.
    • positron, on 01/19/2008, -3/+2It's just business as usual, sadly.
  • rjn17960, on 01/18/2008, -1/+19What an outrage! Congress should send them another sternly worded letter expressing how disappointed they are!
  • PinkoComrade, on 01/18/2008, -1/+12"These are not the emails you are looking for"
  • dupswapdrop, on 01/18/2008, -3/+5opps you know that vote that I am suppose to use to get a republican in office again? I think I just lost it but, good thing I do have a vote I can use for some other party!
    • bjornski, on 01/19/2008, -1/+2With a private company counting the votes, with secret software, you've lost no matter which party you pick.
  • loggia, on 01/18/2008, -2/+17All you liberals. Don't you realize that, um, revealing these emails will, uh... something about terrorism...

    OK, I give up. How will Fox News defend this?
    • Hedegaard, on 01/19/2008, -2/+9They won't -- they won't even mention it, fair and balanced all the way!
  • atlanticworld, on 01/18/2008, -2/+9A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. [Thomas Jefferson, A Declaration of Independence, July 4th 1776]
  • roberto_deneero, on 01/19/2008, -4/+3Looks like Bush is staring in his own movie: A Convenient Truth - The Lies and The Coverup
  • UtahApocalyse, on 01/19/2008, -2/+9Missing = Destroyed
  • facelogic, on 01/19/2008, -3/+5I have to call ***** on this for technical reasons. They use Exchange Server in the executive branch. The information store gets a full backup weekly and incrementals every night. Emails that exist in the message store (inbox, sent items, deleted items, or any other private folders) for a day or so would exist on two or more sets of tapes. Duplicate backup tapes are sent offsite to Sun Gard for disaster recovery protection every morning.

    This doesn't even cover the SAN copy-pair and how it gets redundantly backed up as well. Nor does it cover the traffic logging at the SMTP gateways or the Exchange bridgehead server cluster.

    So it might be true that people's personal laptops are missing emails but there is definitely a trail of historic emails in the backups and logs of the mail servers.
    • MadN, on 01/19/2008, -1/+5"definitely a trail of historic emails in the backups and logs of the mail servers."

      It's been wiped by low level format, then over written 7 times "accidentally"
  • rockrapdude, on 01/19/2008, -3/+2Use linux and RAID.
  • OEMHumanoid, on 01/19/2008, -2/+3They should switch to GMAIL
  • eray1, on 01/19/2008, -4/+9I hope I live to see the day the truth of 9/11 is revealed.
  • MadN, on 01/19/2008, -1/+5They thought AT&T had their backup....
  • mr5150, on 01/19/2008, -2/+6All our emails are archived somewhere on the planet, God only knows where but be sure if the USFG needs to see them they will find them however, Dark Overlord Cheney has managed to wipe all his emails with no visible trace of existence. This is an inside job and needs to be investigated and charges laid against the incompetents/criminals who allowed this to occur.
  • gabrielg01, on 01/19/2008, -4/+2...but why are we not surprised?...
  • ChefGroovy, on 01/19/2008, -8/+5Ha, All this uproar over a RAW STORY article that says something to the effect that all these evil, diabolical were taking place over email. No more secret meetings, bohemian clubs, skull and bones stuff. Just send it to mailing list. HA. Probably jsut lost a bunch of c1al1s ads and generic spam.

    Fox News or it didn't happen.

  • Stevanoski, on 01/19/2008, -6/+4Good for the good guys. Why are Democrats always persecuting Americans instead of prosecuting terrorist?
    • shupy, on 01/19/2008, -1/+1When a terrorist acts against America, he is acting against an enemy.
      When an American acts against America, he is committing treason.
      When that American is in the Whitehouse, we are in deep doo doo.
    • jsmu, on 01/19/2008, -1/+0You are actually a brilliant satirist, aren't you? No one alive is as stupid as your comments taken literally would make him...
  • ryancalderoni, on 01/19/2008, -7/+2what makes the vice president any different than all of you who are always bitching about invasion of privacy?
    • StarlessKnight, on 01/19/2008, -1/+11The President's and Vice President's government-related emails are Public property. They are not private. That is a law.
      • warlokaz2004, on 01/19/2008, -6/+1might be a silly law -- can you imagine the amount of spam president@whitehouse.gov gets? saving that as a document could be a pain. And imgine some future presidential library : "And here in this room we keep a number of emaisl sent to the President by the widow of the Nigerian Oil Minister. Something about cashing a money order..."
        • jpkelly, on 01/19/2008, -2/+0'cept in this case it's a real money order.
      • ryancalderoni, on 01/19/2008, -0/+1well that answers my question, thanks
    • Izult, on 01/19/2008, -1/+2If it were their personal e-mails that didn't have any government related items then yes privacy laws would be in effect. however that does not apply here.
    • jjacksonRIAB, on 01/19/2008, -0/+1The fact that he took the job knowing that's what it was about. That's what makes it different.
  • wishninja, on 01/19/2008, -1/+7I feel it is way way more important to put these assholes in jail for this kind of crap than it is to put someone selling weed or coke in prison. However I know there will be no investigation...nothing will ever come of it.
  • johnnyrocket, on 01/19/2008, -1/+5The MOST criminal administration in a lifetime. And the worst part about that fact? These assholes are going to get away with it.
  • charlietuna, on 01/19/2008, -1/+6The only thing that gets under my skin more is our comatose press and spineless congress.
  • cheekybastard, on 01/19/2008, -1/+4Idle chitchat by politicians looking for airtime. If Waxman was serious he would subpoena the admins responsible for email , backups and storage, and their server logs to start off with. Not their asshat IT managers, the people who do the work, otherwise its just more Beltway *****.
  • kanimara, on 01/19/2008, -1/+3If you ever wondered if the USA was really run by religion or not, you just have to look at Clinton vs Bush. Bush wages war, ruins all freedom, becomes responsible for the deaths of thousands of soldiers and many more innocent lives from other countries, ruins the economy, and he is sitting pretty. Clinton gets a blow job, ruining the sanctity of marriage, and he is booted out of office quickly.
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