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- digmark, on 07/18/2008, -2/+45This kind of thing gives people like me, who are across the water, some hope for the American system. While I don't carry the anti-US sentiment like many people in Britain, or feel it necessary to make sweeping generalisations about a massive and diverse population, the Bush administration has made me lose faith that the "people" have any kind of control.
- neuron79, on 07/19/2008, -1/+35Wow, 30 whole officials... really impressive. What were the other hundreds of elected idiots doing?
- alapoet, on 07/19/2008, -1/+30I salute each and every one of these true patriots.
- mbonzo531, on 07/19/2008, -1/+21Not that I believe the American system is any better, but most of the European countries, including Britain, are in bad shape as well.
- spudhead, on 07/19/2008, -0/+19Great. There's 30 more phone lines to wiretap and 30 more names to the no-fly list.
- tptman, on 07/19/2008, -0/+17Here's the list:
1. Col. Stephen Abraham, Gitmo whistleblower.
2. Marty Bahamonde, FEMA PR rep on the ground during Katrina, disproved much of what FEMA head "Brownie" claimed.
3. Bobby Boutris, FAA whistle blower that called out SWA for hiding maintenance cheating, eventually leading to a $10M fine for SWA.
4. Richard Clarke, former chief counterterrorism adviser, who said it was possible that he and his team could have prevented 9/11 if the Bush administration had paid more attention to Osama bin Laden.
5. James Comey, who went to Ashcroft's hospital bed to make sure Bush aministration didn't do an end around and get wiretapping approved by the ailing atty gen.
6. Pasquale D'Amuro - FBI chief of counterintelligence that refused to carry out "approved" torture methods.
7. Joseph Darby - blew the whistle on Abu Ghraib
8. Col. Morris Davis - Quit his job as chief war crimes prosecutor at Guantanamo rather than hold closed door trials, later testified for one of the detainees.
9. Earl Devany, inspector general of U.S. dept. of Interior, exposed "anything goes at the highest levels of the Department of the Interior''.
10. Sibel Edmonds - Translator who blew whistle on security leaks and was fired for it.
11. Glenn A. Fine, DOJ Inspector General, repeatedly calls out Bush on things like Gitmo torture, failures leading to 9/11, unethical FBI behavior (including firing of Sibel Edmonds), etc.
12. Gloria Freeman - HUD whistleblower on contractor hiring bias for Bush supporters/Republicans, etc.
13. Jack Goldsmith - Wrote book "The Terror Presidency" detailing his experience as an Office of Legal Counsel lawyer who fought from the inside to reign in Bush's oversteps.
14. David Graham - FDA researcher repeatedly calls out large pharmaceutical companies, then FDA itself on ethics violations, most famously Vioxx
15. Bunnatine H. Greenhouse - Senior Army Corps of Engineers official that called out no-bid Halliburton contracts, got demotion.
16. James Hansen - Climate expert that blew whistle on NASA for trying to silence climate change researchers.
17. John P. Higgins - Inspector General pulled the covers on Bush administration buying favorable press with taxpayer dollars.
18. Capt. Kevin Jarvis - Coast Guard Engineer that blew whistle on "Deepwater" self managing contractors, poor engineering practices, leads to GAO overhaul.
19. David Kuo - White House insider wrote tell all book about Bush administration's use of "faith based" initiatives to shill for religious conservatives' votes.
20. William Leonard - ISOO director that implemented automatic declassification of security documents and fought Cheney to bring back "reclassified" secret documents.
21. Brian Miller - GSA inspector that blew whistle on lots of bad deals, including SUN/PeopleSoft, led to resignation of GSA chief Doan.
22. Robert Misbin - FDA official that exposed Rezulin diabetes drug's penchant for causing death by liver failure.
23. Rick Piltz - Government whistle-blower that exposed edited science documents from White House office coordinating climate research
24. Colleen Rowley - FBI agent that called out FBI directors for misleading public about whether they could have prevented 9/11.
25. Charles Smith - Army overseer refused to pay KBR (contractor providing food, housing to troops in Iraq) when they couldn't account for $1B in spending. He was fired, his replacement approved the payment.
26. Bruce Swartz - White House attorney that repeatedly tried to change policy on "wrongheaded" tactics at Guantanamo Bay.
27. Antonia Taguba - General that lead an honest Abu Ghraib investigation then was eventually forced to retire for his hard work.
28. Anne Whiteman - FAA employee blew whistle on DFW air traffic control covering up serious operational errors leading to near misses.
29. Joseph Wilson - diplomat husband of outted CIA operative Vallerie Plain, who criticized Bush Iraq war justifications.
30. Bassem Youseff - revealed FBI made blanket demands for phone records - denizen42, on 07/19/2008, -0/+15Either counting cash or shivering.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+13The revolution will not be televised, it'll be blogged on the internet.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+11It is amazing that we are dealing with matters in our own government that lead to the American Revolution 230 years ago
- zyklon, on 07/19/2008, -0/+8Can we give them medals or... no? It's one thing to just talk against him and the underlings, but it's another to actually do something. They're pioneering the way towards the BushCo loss of immunity, and I love it because while I would do something, I have no power. They do.
- havokzero, on 07/19/2008, -0/+8An actual list of names would be nice.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+6Thank you, my Brother! We are trying. Just as many in your country, region are...
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+6Dugg for Joseph Darby who blew the whistle on Abu Ghraib. A real American hero. As a result his home has been vandalized and he has received death threats from his neighbors. This is the price he has had to pay for exposing the truth.
- youareretarded, on 07/19/2008, -0/+6I was with you until this part:
"How many scandals must people endure from the old guard press before they realize that liberals cannot tell the truth, and therefor MUST lie? How long will it take for people to realize that the reason gas prices are so high are that liberal leftist democrats in Congress are BLOCKING oil drilling on US National Lands? How long will it take for US citizens to realize that a Liberal Democrat Judge in California blocked any oil drilling pending an unlimited multiyear wildlife study? How long will it take people to realize that Liberal Leftist Democrats are intent on RAISING taxes, and have never considered dropping the gasoline taxes?"
Some day you will learn that not everyone has the same views as you and therefore some of the things you can't believe congress blocked was done so because that's what the majority of the people wanted.
Your blind hatred for the "left" is causing you to not to get the very point you are trying to make, it's not that the democrats suck or that the republicans suck, its the fact that all of congress sucks. The majority of Americans get that, that's why they have a lower approval rating than the president.
But keep on with your left vs right crap and maybe some day you will get your republican majority led congress (oh wait you had that already how did that work out).
Both sides suck and you have been played by the right just like others who have opposite opinions to yours have been played by the left. - inactive, on 07/19/2008, -1/+730 U.S. officials have been detained by the executive order of George W. Bush on suspicion of terrorist activity.
- mecharabbit, on 07/19/2008, -0/+5The "American system", as you chaps call it, has always been more of a loose set of principles that were meant to govern a society populated with individuals who understand the value of personal liberty and the rule of law.
These principles have been interpreted broadly over the years, and 9/11 was such a profoundly traumatic event that it caused a reset in the thinking of most Americans. That is the reason a majority of Americans have tolerated the abuses perpetrated against the ideals that this country was founded upon. We have been too willing to sacrifice our rights for security, and we are now wallowing in the consequences of the actions of a presidential administration that was all too willing to take those rights from us.
Where the countries of Europe took an entire millennium to develop the basis for representative democracy based on equality, we in the U.S. were given this gift upon the founding of our nation. The fact that we so willingly surrender our rights for the sake of a political agenda is disheartening.
Though our founding fathers were not perfect, they established a system whereby the changing tides of society would not impinge on the inalienable rights that belong to all people.
Bravo to the brave people who recognize when the American system is being tainted, and curses upon those who wish to undermine it with their flawed ideology. - spudhead, on 07/19/2008, -0/+5I'd have to disagree. The President is the decider.
- Spoomeister, on 07/19/2008, -0/+4In related news, the terrorist watch list grew by 30 names today.
- jevaun, on 07/19/2008, -0/+4That is probably the single most vile and uninformed thing anyone has said in this thread. Congratulations people. We've hit a new low.
- SSUK, on 07/19/2008, -0/+4I'm sorry, I didn't catch most of that, could you repeat it please?
- Risingashes, on 07/19/2008, -1/+5Hello from Australia- where the political system works just fine.
It's amazing what compulsory voting and middle-of-the-line political parties can do.
Our biggest scandal was about an MP being rude to restaurant staff (the story ran for 3 weeks). - JoeVet, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3According to the FBI and TSA they are not on the watch list and are simply "misidentified individuals". Of course that makes absolutely no difference how they are treated by the air lines or our government but it is legal retaliation.
- cgbspender, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3Dugg for heroes.
- JoeVet, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3As an army officer I would like to shake his hand and personally apologize for people like you. Joseph Darby had the courage and the basic human dignity to what was right. He is the definition of army values. You on the other hand are slime mold.
- nosecohn, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3Exactly. It's also amazing how many Americans don't understand that.
- mbonzo531, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3That makes no sense.
- blackturtleus, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2One of Bush's many problems is that he doesn't listen to good advice when it is given. During his first summer as president he chose to listen to the advice of the Pope on the issue of stem cells and to ignore the advice of dozens of Nobel Prize winners. At that point I realized that Bush wasn't just dumb, but truly stupid!!!
- chuckDontSurf, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2Don't bother. The doc is 670 pages long.
- GogglesPaisan, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2Where is the rest of the article? that's a non-article! nice incomplete.
- youareretarded, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2No need to convince me, I'll voting out all the incumbents in my state and I'll continue to do so until we have some one who is looking out for the people.
- bxblox, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2I can think of one report that could use a table of contents...
- JoeVet, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2You really don't know who Bush has been working for the last 8 years? You think he was working for you and me? LOL
- hnsez, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2you are full of ***** you never even read the damn link
- spudhead, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry.
I am a bad bad man. - nosecohn, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2I think what's happening is that there are supposed to be two different documents: the report and the exhibits. However, both links on the side of the page lead you to the exhibits. I haven't been able to find the report.
- shupy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Not really dumb, but arrogant and inept.
He is a man who has not had to earn anything or suffer from the consequences of his actions. He believes he is above it all, and no matter what he does, his family will cover for him along with an army of political toadies. - shupy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Really, we owe Iraq big time, and they want us out. We have destroyed Iraqs infrastructure and the bottom line is that the European allies Invited us in. Iraq did not. Not to mention that the reason Saddam was in power, and the only reason he held power as long as he did, was that the US supported him and armed him when it suited our purposes.
Bush bashing? History will judge Bush as the most inept and corrupt president this country has ever seen. It will take decades for us and the middle east to recover from the bungling of the Bush administration.
I do not believe anyone capable of critical thinking skill can support the devastation of this inept excuse for a leader. - jepizacar, on 08/18/2008, -0/+1nice resource....
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http://jeniya.info - nosecohn, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1I am unable to download the full report from this page. The links for the report and the exhibits both just link to the exhibits document. Am I the only one? Does anyone have a direct link to the report?
- shupy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1documentation pleas on these alleged hundreds.
Big difference in having political differences and exposing law violations. - carterartist, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1I think the reason why people are saying that your comment was asinine was because the original comment was about "elected officials" not "american citizens". You know how our moms used to say "If you have nothing nice to say you shouldn't say anything at all", well I think they should have said "If your comment is asinine, useless, pointless and wrong you shouldn't say anything at all"
- djm19, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1Because this is the here and now and no president has had more controversy surrounding him in 20 years than bush.
- spudhead, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1---
- shupy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1What is really amazing is that the erosion started during the Reagan administration. And Americans are just now waking up to it.
And don't forget, half of the people of this country voted for Bush, twice.
And some still support him. - inactive, on 07/19/2008, -1/+2It's as if they don't want you to know on purpose. It's not even in the pdf in one place is it?
- carterartist, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1lol.
- havokzero, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1Thank you, and have a nice day.
- KeillRandor, on 07/19/2008, -0/+0Unfortunately, the problem with the British system is that few people in the country really understand how or why it is supposed to work. Because of this, the country is becoming more vulnerable - (though still not as bad as the US) - to the situation the US recently had, where one group/party had a lot of control over most of the government, and so could get away with almost anything they wanted.
Things such as the Parliament Act, wanting an Elected 2nd house etc. will make such a thing easier to do over here too. When/if that happens, the only thing stopping a majority in the House of Commons having it's way, will be the Courts again, though, thankfully, our court system is not as bad as the US, (which is POLITICALLY appointed) and hopefully would take far more effort and time to make it so - but might still be possible...
The whole point of the governing systems in the US and in the UK, is to make it as hard as possible for one group of people/party to have an overwhelming amount of power - unfortunately, everything seems to be heading in the right direction to make that possible... -
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