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- SoulGrub, on 06/09/2009, -3/+128"Gov. David Patterson blindsided by the move." ba-dum-chshh
- mikeinto, on 06/08/2009, -6/+67Republicans should refrain from celebratory gestures:
"Both men are under investigation by the authorities. The state attorney general’s office is investigating a health care agency, Soundview HealthCare Network, that Mr. Espada ran until recently. And Mr. Monserrate, who was indicted on felony assault charges in March stemming from an attack on his companion, would automatically be thrown out of office if convicted."
Democrats should refrain from crying foul:
“This was an illegal and unlawful attempt to gain control of the Senate and reverse the will of the people who voted for a Democratic majority,”
“It disrupts the Senate at a critical period, when issues like mayoral control are yet undecided. And the taxpayers are going to remember these guys by first and last name next year.”
The Republicans should send these two crooked clowns back to the Democrats. - inactive, on 06/09/2009, -6/+55I dugg this, but Republicans should not be so happy about this.
Hiram Monserrate was recently arrested for slashing his girlfriend's face in a drunken lover's quarrel.
Read more about it: http://is.gd/TRDQ - deema1, on 06/09/2009, -16/+53The funniest part of the story is that Democrats walked out when they realized what was happening, turned off the lights, and cut off internet power in an attempt to stop the vote. How childish.
http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/malcolm.smith ...
But I agree with foontala above...almost all politicians are the same. All want more centralized power. - foontala, on 06/08/2009, -16/+50Please everyone, do some "R" and "D" and find out that they are both the same.
- tismondo, on 06/09/2009, -0/+27This article description is horribly incorrect, and all of you demonstrate a remarkable lack of knowledge of how parliamentary procedure in the United States works...
The state senators DID NOT SWITCH PARTIES. They voted to give the Republican caucus leadership control within the chamber. The two state senators in question are *still* democrats. They did, however, backstab their party.
The reason the Democratic caucus is calling foul is because they believe there was a violation of parliamentary procedure. They're not trying to accuse the two senators of illegally switching sides. Please read the article. - PeanutCheeseBar, on 06/09/2009, -13/+35When Specter switched parties, he was met with outrage by Republicans while Democrats just said to "get over it" and that there was nothing wrong with them switching. Now that two Democrats are doing the same thing because of two party members who switched, suddenly it's "illegal" and "unlawful"; never mind the fact that the Democrats turned off the lights and cut off access to the internet.
- lisaawesome, on 06/09/2009, -1/+22That was what I came here for. I knew I wasn't the only one who enjoyed that.
- rolf, on 06/09/2009, -3/+22Did you complain when Specter switched? People should be voting for individuals, not parties, that's whats gets us in these messes in the first place.
- ShrikeDeCil, on 06/08/2009, -11/+29Republicans spend us into poverty.
Democrats spend us into poverty.
QED - they are the same.
Except... one is doing the spending at least four times as fast. - maz2331, on 06/09/2009, -1/+17We elect individuals to office, not parties.
- charm803, on 06/09/2009, -2/+17I am getting sick and tired of Republicans and Democrats focusing more on party affiliation and less on the real issues.
God forbid they try to actually meet in the freaking middle.
I sure hope our future generation will be smarter and not worry about who has the majority, as long as work is getting done. - inactive, on 06/09/2009, -2/+17As a New York State taxpayer, I'm glad to see we cut some of the bloat.
- DatVillain83, on 06/09/2009, -1/+16inaccurate, they didn't switch party affiliation!
- ftx437, on 06/09/2009, -3/+17Wait didn't palosi do the same thing..
- Junkyarddawg, on 06/09/2009, -4/+14And the republicans in congress under Bush, several times even. Standard dick move by the majority to tick off the minority.
- Coven, on 06/09/2009, -0/+9You obviously don't know NG2K5 all that well.
- wolfing, on 06/09/2009, -1/+10I wish there were no political parties, just people each with his/her own mind to vote on issues of his/her own will
- angryfirelord, on 06/09/2009, -1/+10Our generation is too busy waiting for the next iPod. It used to be that during Colonial times, serving in politics was a matter of honor. Washington was offered a salary as President, but turned it down, even though his plantation (his source of income) had been destroyed during the war.
The amount of money politicians make is ridiculous. And to do what? Vote on legislation that they didn't bother to read? I can get middle schoolers to do that. Most of it falls to party lines anyway instead of actually reworking bills to fit both sides.
Unless we seek to educate our populace about our government and the Constitution, we will never have liberty again. - foontala, on 06/09/2009, -10/+18"Foreign policy does not change with Republicans or Democrats. Overall, there is very little policy that changes. There is a lot of debate and a lot of rhetoric, but things continue as they do." -RP
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -1/+9Spector switched party.
Those dudes switched... well nothing. They just had a issy fit over the gays.
But yeah, same thing. - zip000, on 06/09/2009, -1/+9No one said that these guys switching parties - which they didn't do anyway - was illegal or unlawful; they said that the VOTE was illegal and unlawful because the session was already closed.
Now, I'll admit that that sounds like a bit of a stretch...just using parliamentary procedure to try to get their way. State legislatures are full of crackpots and weirdos anyway. - FearlessFreep, on 06/09/2009, -2/+10"reverse the will of the people who voted for a Democratic majority,"
The people voted for individual Senators from their own state, they did not vote for a Democratic majority - insertAliasHere, on 06/09/2009, -0/+8Seriously, look at his profile description.
R0am3r, it's tools like you that make conservatives look bad. Anything that anyone says negatively about anyone with an R after their name must be liberal propaganda and mudslinging.
Wake the ***** up, some republicans are bad people, who make bad decisions and do bad things. So do some democrats, but the point is that you make all conservatives look bad when you immediately discuss legitimate criticism as leftist garbage. - Coven, on 06/09/2009, -1/+9*facepalm*
- m00nmaster, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7ShamWOW -- I mean, what can I say, it sells itself!
- JoeMondo, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7Unless your ballot had a little box to check for Majority Party, you only voted for an individual. As is the case in any election, you may have had hopes or expectations for what that would mean, but they were only in your head - not in a legally binding document.
- TheInformer, on 06/09/2009, -2/+9Again, the "Culture of Corruption" label fits which party??
- pinchduck, on 06/09/2009, -1/+8They killed a hooker in Hollywood?
- SushiCW, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7Both.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -5/+12Where were you when the gang of 4 democrats were preventing the seating of the majority leader in exchange for political favors and chairmanships...?
Also, make no mistake, "the people of New York" have been fleeing the state like a sinking ship since the late 60s, everything north of the City is rust belt. - mollydog12, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7unreg.
the sex was free. he paid 300 to keep his socks on and 4000 for her to go away quietly.
she owes him 4 grand. - Claverhouse, on 06/09/2009, -2/+8I'm gonna assume the Democrats didn't denounce him for this whilst he was in their party... And that now the Republicans will downplay the affair.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -1/+7The AG office is overworked and understaffed, and literally has to settle ludicrous cases like paying prisoners $200 for dryer shrinking their favorite blankets because there simply isn't enough time or staff to dedicate to many claims. Attorneys are retiring or going on to teach at law schools or work for private practice to earn more, and they aren't being replaced because there is a hiring freeze ongoing in the government. Interns and student staff were taking on duties normally allotted to full-time salaried +benefited workers (paralegal work, clerical work, periodicals, etc.) Many of the interns working full-time were going to law school full time and commuting two hours from New York City on Amtrak (I was lucky, just going to SUNY grad school studying English for cheap) and because they were terminated with only a week's notice, are now getting evicted from their apartments or worse). Maybe as a taxpayer you should educate yourself more about your government and where your money goes...
- methdwman3, on 06/09/2009, -0/+6Dugg for Gov. Patterson being "blindsided"
- KermitJagger, on 06/09/2009, -2/+8Jesus, I gotta move out of New York. My three-year-old son could run this state better than all of these half-wits combined.
- mollydog12, on 06/09/2009, -7/+13they're all crooked clowns. at least these clowns will be pissing out of the tent rather than in.
- vbullinger, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5Timmy for governor! Candy and Legos for everyone!
- jholden42, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5They never LEFT the Democrats. RTFA!
- mollydog12, on 06/09/2009, -4/+9survival is the ability to pick the best of bad choices most of the time.
- pintomp3, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5Lyndon Johnson did the same thing to the Democratic party when he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Was that childish? Yes, equality is worth it.
- SlowFoodRules, on 06/09/2009, -2/+7Misleading title: Specter switched parties, these two Democrats didn't.
Perhaps the larger issue is: should our country be lead by politicians? Aren't they really better suited for fundraising and social events?
THE PEOPLE can speak for themselves and with today's technology, they can. Issues such as gay marriage are issues citizens can decide for themselves. Senators need to be making decisions that insure safe bridges, quality schools, affordable health care, reliable employment. - inactive, on 06/09/2009, -8/+13Yes but in NY at least Republican spending actually produces things like the State Plaza, SUNY, etc... Democrat spending gives us $100K salaries for crony executive office buffoons and, well, I'm not really sure what else!
- TheInformer, on 06/09/2009, -9/+14How is that different than the Democrats that took all of the letter "W"s off of the computers on the typewriters and computers when George Bush won the election in 2000?
It seems that childish behavior is the norm. - MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -3/+8I thought he was just in favor of slashing taxes. Nice to know he can branch out some. Way to pick up a real winner reps. Makes up for the dems picking up another loser in Specter
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -2/+7$4300 gets you Ashley Dupre
http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/08/03/14_nak ...
And you get to keep your socks on while doing it. - davewashere, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5The thing is, it seems that both of these men are going to be kicked out of office in the near future due to their criminal activities. What is their motive for giving power (in the event of a tie-breaker) to the opposing party? Was it a gay marriage issue? Was it a Tom Golisano's money issue? I love that Golisano is whining about how he was unable to buy influence from the top Democrats, so now he's organizing a coup so he can buy influence from Republicans. New York politics: it's like Chicago politics, but with twice the number of corrupt idiots.
- Maddoktor2, on 06/09/2009, -5/+10Obviously the GOP - it's the party the corrupt ones appear to be flocking to.
- netant, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5The majority is always "in charge" of the investigation. These guys are trying to move up on the power chart by cutting a deal with Republicans. If there's any deficiency in integrity, it would be the Republicans and the two indicted Democrats. I doubt the motion will prevail. It definitely sounds like rules of order were broken.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -4/+9It also cleared out nasty slumlord neighborhoods of Albany to be built. N.E. republicans aren't bible-humping "neocons" either, by the way. I think you need the correction!
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