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- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -36/+287Only 8 years? Try since 1492...
-On behalf of Native Americans everywhere - richardwb1, on 11/24/2008, -17/+209The Treasury has been looted, and the Constitution trashed. A foreign occupier couldn't have done worse.
Should we just let bygones be bygones?
The criminals must be held accountable! - ChloeMS, on 11/24/2008, -29/+160Where was THIS damn article in 2003? Maybe we could have booted ole King George out sooner!
- fedja, on 11/24/2008, -4/+108To be critical is to be patriotic.
- DFutureIsNow, on 11/24/2008, -23/+121Republicans always wreck the country thats why no one should be voting for them anymore, I truly hope their party becomes so irrelevant that it disappears, then a strong libertarian party can come out of the shadows, then them and the democratic party can slug it out every four years. The republican party, a party that considered that Sarah Palin was ready to take us thru the tough times we are in should NEVER be allowed in power again.
- aereaus, on 11/24/2008, -14/+88The thing is the top 100 families in America have been running the Government since the beginning. The difference this time is that the American people finally got over their collective apathy and voted. In Europe you usually see 80+% of the population voting, but in America it's usually only around 40%. This last election brought out around 60%. If you continue to have higher turn outs in the future you can keep the asshats out of power and have a true Democracy.
Pretty simple if you think about it. But on top of this... National Elections should be linked to your SS number. That way no one can deny your right to vote. And like here in Denmark, Election day should be a paid day off. - richmomz, on 11/24/2008, -7/+73As the late George Carlin once said "You think you have politicians... you DON'T. You have OWNERS - they OWN you."
I disagree with the premise of the article though that the ousting of the neo-cons will reverse the globalist/corporitist agenda for the country - there was a huge public outcry against the $700 billion dollar bailout for example, but the Democrats simply ignored it. People are going to be let down to find that the Democrats are every bit as much of the globalist agenda, but I hope I am wrong. - stillpissed, on 11/24/2008, -17/+73At least now when I read an op-ed like this I feel relieved knowing the neo-con's reign will soon be behind us.
- doublefelix, on 11/24/2008, -2/+54Even though we haven't been treated as such, I think Americans are adults, and able to handle the criticism that comes from the freedom of the press. Good news or bad, it also helps to make informed decisions when one is, in fact, informed.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
- Thomas Jefferson - junkneo, on 11/24/2008, -5/+56America's No. 1 export - Debt.
Foreign occupier - Money.
Why so surprised?
America owes money to the entire World.
Hope it does not come to the stage where you see - "Alaska for Sale. Foreclosed by China". - JumpingJack79, on 11/24/2008, -2/+50The right approach, of course, is that of conservative media, always telling everyone how great the US is, while the country and the world collapse.
- northwatuppa, on 11/24/2008, -10/+58Yes, but, you forget, 46% of American's voted for McCain/Palin and if it hadn't been for the bad economy, McCain/Palin might very well have won (perish the thought). Remember Pogo's famous pronoiuncement: We have met the enemy and he is us.
- elshizzo, on 11/24/2008, -11/+58- Robbing of the US Treasury
- Hetman, on 11/24/2008, -4/+48I am native American. And our oral history definitely states that we were fighting with each other. Just like almost every other society in the world. But that does not justify Genocide.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/24/2008, -6/+49People all over the world were warning the US abotu Bush and this Admin since back in 99. America just wouldn't listen and return the warnings with labels of being a "terrorist sympathizer", "Anti-American", "Islamo-Fascist" , to pick only a few.....
But even though Americans should have taken care of these guys before they managed to kill over 4000+ of your best, wound countless other Americans while killing over a million others...There is still time to get these clowns if America gets off their asses... - Delphium226, on 11/24/2008, -3/+43George Bush is not America you ***** testicle.
- bsmang, on 11/24/2008, -2/+38I think it was Bush and his buddies who put America down... HuffPo just mentions it. Oh hell, it looks like you tried to bring it down too - by supporting McCain.
- cle2105, on 11/24/2008, -27/+63Native American tribes were killing each other the whole time. They were not the peace loving people portrayed by Disney in Pocohontas. Digg me down for not subscribing to the "noble savage" stereotype propogated during de-colonization, I don't care
- DangerCollie, on 11/24/2008, -4/+37Hey, josh, you could always move. Big world, lots of options. Plenty of places where it's actually illegal to criticize the behavior of one's country. You could try North Korea or China, if your preference is more European you could relocate to western Russia.
When you're ready to go, let me know. I'll round up some mofo's to help you load the truck. - howea, on 11/24/2008, -2/+34A bit like the European tribes that came to conquest?
- loafnut, on 11/24/2008, -10/+42MrBabyMan AND Huffington Post together? Spare me.
- JumpingJack79, on 11/24/2008, -0/+31It's not just the low turnout rate that's the problem, it's first and foremost the stupid winner-take-all electoral college system. So it's really not that you have to appease 40% of all people, actually that would be a lot, but in reality you only have to appease just 40% of SWING STATE RESIDENTS. If you're not lucky enough to live in a swing state, your vote doesn't count *****. Talk about disenfranchisement. When the DNC refused to count the votes in this year's Democratic primaries, it was a HUGE scandal, but guess what, all the people in most states (at least 35-45 of them) are disenfranchised all the time.
The US likes to think of itself as the greatest democracy in the world. Well it might have been the greatest when it was founded, but the problem is that because of America's obsession with tradition and patriotism, the system hasn't changed in more than 200 years, simply because no one is allowed to even think that it's anything less than perfect. Just about every other democracy has a better and more modern electoral system, but the US people still vote on TUESDAY. Why? "Because on Sunday people go to church, then on Monday they travel with a horse carriage to the polling place, so they can vote on Tuesday, and on Wednesday they travel back." And the elections are of course held in November, because the work on the field is finished by then, so people can take 3 days off to go vote.....
And, um.... Every adult citisen has the right to vote, but somehow there's always this huge mess with voter registration. WHY do people have to register to vote? WHY isn't everyone with a valid ID automatically allowed to vote???
AMERICA, WAKE UP! Your "greatest in the world" electoral system has been obsolete at least since the industrial revolution (that was 100+ years ago)! Don't be afraid to modernize it. It's not like it's sacred or something. Washington, Jefferson & co. were not gods, they were just pretty smart people who thought with their own heads - something Americans now seem to be afraid of... - radicalchaos, on 11/24/2008, -7/+36The foreign occupier is the international banking cartels, masquerading under such names as the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve is as federal as Federal Express. The Fed is a private corporation owned by international banksters. They have been robbing America since the passing of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. Since then the dollar has lost 96% of its purchasing power.
Time is running out.
It is time to END THE FED.
http://www.endthefed.us - humptyz, on 11/24/2008, -1/+29Definitely agree on the paid day off, e.g. make Election Day a holiday; it's that important.
I'd also throw in America should change its voting system and get rid of winner take all election schemes. People like to bitch and moan about the two party system over here, and while that's nice to complain that doesn't fix the problem. We continually have only two major parties because the voting system encourages it. Since all votes that don't go to the eventual winner are discarded it's in your best interest to vote for who you think will win, not for who you want. (If you're lucky enough that the person you want to win is the person you think will win, so much the better.)
Proportional voting schemes are much much better than winner takes all. Instant runoff voting (IRV) can better represent your vote. You rank the candidates by your preference, when the votes get counted if no candidate got greater than 50% of the vote then the last place candidate is eliminated from the round of vote counting. Instead of the votes that went to that candidate getting eliminated they are instead transferred to the person's #2 pick. Counting continues until a winner is found.
I feel like a broken record because I keep harping on the virtues of IRV but I really think a change in how votes are counted will encourage more people to vote. When you have a sense that your vote will matter you'll get off your butt to vote. Hopefully will help us get to that 80+% voting participation European countries see. - RudeTurnip, on 11/24/2008, -5/+32You mean those guys from Asia that were crossing the ice over several thousand years and sacking the people that had crossed over before who had sacked the people that had crossed over before who had sacked the people that had crossed over before....etc?
- DangerCollie, on 11/24/2008, -6/+33But if there are no consequences...significant consequences, then they'll feel like they can do it again. What's to stop the next Republican president from appointing a political lackey to head Justice and put us right back in that alien occupation?
- Zenham, on 11/24/2008, -7/+34Yes! Because DISSENT IS UNAMERICAN!
Get lost, fascist shill. - Hardcase, on 11/24/2008, -5/+32No doubt George W. Bush has been a pretty poor president, but that's no reason to let Congress off the hook. The president doesn't make the laws and he doesn't set the budget. It's incredible that Congress has a lower approval rating than the president, but nobody seems too uptight over that. It seems to me that both branches of government are well and truly whacked. A new president isn't going to fix what's wrong with Congress.
- kemp34, on 11/24/2008, -2/+26International Banksters for $800, Alex.
- rekrapt, on 11/24/2008, -18/+42If you guys are thinking Obama is going to change the world, you're in for a long wait. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
- andyb747, on 11/24/2008, -4/+27"American people get to make their input every four years and after that they can be ignored"
-how appropriate that his name is "Dick" - ApokalypseNow, on 11/24/2008, -1/+23Ordinarily I'd frown on these types of comments - the "if you don't like it, move" attitude has been far too prevalent over the last 8 years.
However, in this case, the shoe is on the other foot. Now those who have been with the party in power for the last 8 years are the ones bitching. The ones who have been calling us unpatriotic and un-American for criticizing the Bush regime are now the ones whining. To those people, those who can dish it out but apparently can't take it, I would like them to read this next sentence very slowly - it should sound familiar, but this time it is coming not from their mouths, but from ours.
If you don't like it, move.
Turnabout is fair play, bitches. - Bartboy919, on 11/24/2008, -8/+30Real Americans of course! You know, the people who live in Sarah Palin's "Real America".
- SSUK, on 11/24/2008, -0/+21But we'll still be waiting for Duke Nukem Forever...
- Hetman, on 11/24/2008, -1/+22They are fiscally liberal. As in the fact that they spend way to much money on everything. But socially they are still very conservative.
- b166er01, on 11/24/2008, -1/+22oh, i didnt know that they were already killing each other... that does justify killing them to finish the job.
this same logic is used to occupy palestine "but there were only arab tribes fighting each other" - falafelkiosken, on 11/24/2008, -0/+21Hawaii is outside USA now?
- traveler1217, on 11/24/2008, -6/+25Even worse, when times became good under the benevolent leadership of Bill Clinton, neocons began to sow seeds of discontent among the vast throng of the narrow-minded, the ignorant, the racist and the anti-intellectual christian fundamentalist right. Sadly enough, they bought into the psychology of hate, greed, lies and hypocrisy for the next 8 years. Now, those of us who knew better have the chance to fix the terrible mess that is left, but can we all be smarter now moving forward and be vigilant enough to recognize the neocon hypocrisy and lies for what they are so that this plague of vile ignorance can never take hold of the nation again?
- getter1, on 11/24/2008, -29/+47huffpo is just the polar opposite of fox news, its still crap.
Doesn't matter who gets in to be president, democrat or or republican, its still going to be a guy who was paid for by big corporations and banks - catbeller, on 11/24/2008, -1/+19We've been looted. Since we collectively have that syndrome that erases our memories every week, we'll never bother to tote up the damage. The bailout of the "financial engineers" alone is already over four and a half trillion, and we're paying it directly to the thieves themselves, since government is of course too incompetent (according to the FE's and their champions) to oversee business decisions.
And it's now all Obama's fault. I'm hearing this by listening to people who obviously are listening to Fox News. Obama is causing the depression simply by being elected. This is no joke: they believe this with all their angry little hearts. - gopher043, on 11/24/2008, -5/+23with Buffalo Nickels?
- wonderbriefs, on 11/24/2008, -0/+17Who needs factual resources when you have Youtube conspiracy videos?
- mizike, on 11/24/2008, -4/+20Doubtful since half of you people still voted for McCain after 8 years of Bush's insanity.
Not that I should be saying anything as my country currently has a Conservative jackass in power thanks to all of the oil drinking rednecks in Alberta. - richmomz, on 11/24/2008, -6/+22Word - our election system is just theatre. The only real choice we have is which sock puppet gets to dictate the will of the corporate/banking elite of this country.
- doublefelix, on 11/24/2008, -1/+17I'll vote for that!
- Hetman, on 11/24/2008, -0/+16I like how he ends that skit. "The owners of this country know the truth: It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."
- FairDinkumMate, on 11/24/2008, -4/+20And here I was thinking it was the First Amendment that gave them their right to free speech! Silly me. Had I known it was Bush & co I may have felt differently these past 8 years.
So you are now so blinded by rhetoric & self-centered that you consider Bush & Co 'the system'?
No need for a constitution, Bill of Rights, etc - we have Bush & Co, they'll look after you! - DukeLeto2, on 11/24/2008, -1/+17Well done! Now, please apply the same critical thought to our new president and especially his cabinet and staff choices.
- jfsimard79, on 11/24/2008, -1/+17There were plenty of articles. You probably ignored them.
- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -0/+15Ignore the troll folks. He is a user that has been banned FIVE TIMES before. It shant be long until he's gone again
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