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White House Must Be Accountable for Sex Crimes in Guantanamo
huffingtonpost.com — Just as sex criminals -- and the leaders who directed the use of rape and sexual abuse as a military strategy -- were tried and sentenced after the wars in Bosnia and Sierra Leone, so Americans must hold accountable those who committed, or authorized, sex crimes in US-operated prisons.
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- Homerr, on 07/07/2008, -26/+12Big Bob: You boys ready for your cockmeat sandwich?
Harold Lee: Uh, no.
Big Bob: Well you better get hungry real fast... because I've got a whole lotta sandwich waiting for you!
Kumar Patel: I've never had to suck a dick before.
Harold Lee: Me neither.
Kumar Patel: I bet it sucks dick!- Hetman, on 07/08/2008, -0/+7I liked that movie but the sad part is I would not be surprised if they were getting ***** meat sandwhiches.
- pgoetz, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3Why is this being dugg down?
- CryRightardCry, on 07/07/2008, -10/+38"We now know that the torture of prisoners was the result of a policy set in the White House by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Rice -- who actually chaired the torture meetings. The Pentagon has also acknowledged that it had authorized sexualized abuse of detainees as part of interrogation practices to be performed by female operatives. And documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union have Rumsfeld, in his own words, checking in on the sexualized humiliation of prisoners."
Rummy just had to get his fingers into some of that rape. He wanted to make sure they were doing it right. - rapcrap187, on 07/07/2008, -10/+34It's great how like 75% of the people under Bush's belt have about 5 life sentences each. I hope we eventually hold them all accountable but those are just pipe dreams
- XBunnyRacer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2It is that kind of attitude toward their crimes that makes it a "pipe dream".
- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I agree with the accountability but to which court. I believe that the US has backed out of all international legislation related to human rights.
- XBunnyRacer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2It is that kind of attitude toward their crimes that makes it a "pipe dream".
- InsideJob11Sep, on 07/08/2008, -17/+12Resist the NWO/globalists who seek to destroy U.S. sovereignty!
- londonmoon85, on 07/08/2008, -11/+3Thats really disturbing!
- londonmoon85, on 07/08/2008, -14/+2Thats really disturbing!
- SolidBones, on 07/08/2008, -4/+10Amazing what some people can get away with.
- Dibou, on 07/08/2008, -2/+2You mean like a deceitful article?
- slingr, on 07/08/2008, -3/+1OG... wait... thats disgusting...
- slayernine, on 07/08/2008, -6/+5Meh accountability is overrated. If anyone actually got G. Bush thrown in jail he would be out in a matter of days on some sort of technicality.
- SFJoe, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5Maybe. But finding that rat bastard guilty of just one of the crimes he's committed would go a long way toward restoring the moral fiber of this country. Even if he never spends a day in prison, he needs to be flagged as a convicted felon for the rest of his days.
- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1If the International court of human rights would get involved then the US could invade Holland. As prostitution and cannabis are legal the troops would have a wale of a time.
- SFJoe, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5Maybe. But finding that rat bastard guilty of just one of the crimes he's committed would go a long way toward restoring the moral fiber of this country. Even if he never spends a day in prison, he needs to be flagged as a convicted felon for the rest of his days.
- homerjs, on 07/08/2008, -9/+1meh
- Rudegar, on 07/08/2008, -3/+10hard to hold the higher ground and the be the better alternative with this stuff
"Whoever battles monsters should take care not to become a monster too, for if you stare long enough into the Abyss, the Abyss stares also into you." :S - INTERNETMASTER, on 07/08/2008, -3/+14of course they won't be. for some insane reason, no one in the "legitimate" washington power structure seems interested in holding the bush regime accountable for their crimes (with the rare exception of someone like Kucinich, and even he doesn't want to have them face real justice, only removal from office). somehow I get the impression america just wants to move on and forget this horrible man and the crippling damage he has done to our country. "it's only 6 months, let's just wait for him to leave" seems to be the attitude.
- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1To which court would they be held accountable to? Under what law?
As the US in not accountable to the international legislation of human rights violations does it have the legal framework to prosecute involved parties.
- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1To which court would they be held accountable to? Under what law?
- sayyid215, on 07/08/2008, -8/+5yes somebody has to pay for all those cockmeat sandwiches served up!!!
- sayyid215, on 07/08/2008, -12/+2yes somebody has to pay for all those cockmeat sandwiches served!!!
- Exquisitething, on 07/08/2008, -4/+5Undeniable, someone must be responsible for this crime! Who are they??? Bush? Chaney? Or who?
- Cybermaul, on 07/08/2008, -4/+11Uh...really, guys, why haven't we had an armed revolt yet? I'm all for bringing them to justice, but when the justice system will let them slip through we must take more drastic measures. I say we should simply remove all those who are corrupt from public office to allow for others who would be more willing to have a concience to have a term or two. Be patriots, love your country, and defend her against all treats, internal or external.
- bmcnally, on 07/08/2008, -2/+4"Uh...really, guys, why haven't we had an armed revolt yet?"
Because that would entail leaving your parents' basement. - aigulf, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6The oath of military service men and women includes "to protect the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic." It seems to me the past 8 years have shown a domestic enemy to the Constitution.
- Cybermaul, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Ergo, we must defend our country. If words and ideas peacefully brought forth to the hearts and minds of our people will not work, then we will need to act in a more forceful manner.
- XBunnyRacer, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Because this regime will label you a terrorist for trying to organize an armed revolt..
- OldJesser, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3This regime will and has labeled many people many things. Are we really putting that much weight on a label that we are now scared of being labeled ourselves?
We can crow all we want about the justice system not doing its part, but that's all for naught if we aren't ready to stand up and do our part. As trite as bmcnally is being, though, he's probably right. - nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2History teaches us that the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist is who writes the history book.
- XBunnyRacer, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Are you willing to literally give YOUR life.. right now.. and pick up a gun??
If they label you a 'terrosist" you're in Guantanamo with the rest of the domestic terrorists. - Cybermaul, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Hey, man, I don't care. As long as my country stands free and pure again at the end of the day, our enemies, whether they be on the Hill or over the seas, can send all their furies, label me a terrorist, waterboard me, or whatever.
I fear not what man can do, for they can but destroy my body. I fear knowing what needs to be done, and not doing it. Whether you believe in a higher power or not (I do), I believe that if I do not act to right the wrongs of those who have come before I will stand accountable for knowing and not doing, for being one of the good men who did nothing, for allowing, through my apathy, evil to cover the land - our land. This is no time to ridicule others for truly wanting change, nor is this the time to ridicule others for wanting change and being the same. Now is the time to band together, stand up when others stand down, and bring a change to our country that we will be proud to tell our children we helped bring to pass!
PM me if you're interested in making a change.
- OldJesser, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3This regime will and has labeled many people many things. Are we really putting that much weight on a label that we are now scared of being labeled ourselves?
- Hangly, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Because we're conditioned since birth to be nonviolent under any and all circumstances.
In related news, I just had a dream in which I pushed Dick Cheney off of a bridge. It scared the ***** out of me because he didn't die.- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I'm glad you feel like this. However many of your country men seem to have modified this sentiment. Their definition of non violence is having a semi-automatic weapon at home and not a full automatic
- bmcnally, on 07/08/2008, -2/+4"Uh...really, guys, why haven't we had an armed revolt yet?"
- cutething, on 07/08/2008, -3/+10Disgusting and appalling. We cannot allow this.
- ElDiablo6870, on 07/08/2008, -13/+5The pathetic part is that some people with believe this crap.
- slingr, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2you are a ***** tool
- Godwhacker, on 07/08/2008, -8/+11Disgusting. America, how low you have fallen as to call these people "leaders".
- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I think an interesting point is can the US roll this all back. There are unfortunately many examples in European history where a terrorist act has allowed a political party to rollback civil rights.
If you only look at the 40's where a single terrorist act by an Austrian communist enabled a rolling back of all constitutional protection for the individual, monitoring of telegrams, letters etc. imprisonment without trial and set up the ability to go after groups of people based upon the flimsiest of evidence.
It took the international community working together to set up the needed legal framework and it was the US who led the charge. I hope that this level of moral leadership will be repeated.
- nick1971, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I think an interesting point is can the US roll this all back. There are unfortunately many examples in European history where a terrorist act has allowed a political party to rollback civil rights.
- paganmonkeyboy, on 07/08/2008, -7/+2Anyone else think they aren't leaving office without a fight ? There are far too many legal loose ends to deal with once they leave, so why leave ?
- Dibou, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Do you guys actually believe such things or do you just make up these fantasies so you can feel like you are fighting "evil", like in the movies?
- Memnochxx, on 07/08/2008, -4/+1Tell me you didn't eat that cockmeat sandwich.
- darkha1f, on 07/08/2008, -8/+16Buried for being a Huffington Post article. Might as well be from The Onion. Nothing from Huffington ever seems to be legitimately researched. Just a bunch of conjecture.
- aigulf, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3They're as biased to the left as fox news is to the right, I'll give you that. Can anyone find another source with similar content?
- rmmcclay, on 07/08/2008, -4/+12Lying about blowjobs is worthy. That's because it's comprehensible as a "crime". But the Bush Administration's crimes are incomprehensible...they're beyond imagination...beyond comprehension....it's just like the truth that came out during the Iran-Contra hearings in the '80's. The CIA was moving cocaine into the States. Does anyone remember that? It was incomprehensible and therefore it just draws a blank stare.
- OrangeTide, on 07/08/2008, -11/+4what's with all the whiny pussies?
- enki25, on 07/08/2008, -9/+13Bill Clinton got a blow job in the oval office. He was impeached and every Republican in the country will spontaneously scream "immoral!" at the very mention of his name.
George Bush had suspects raped, forced them to masturbate in front of armed guards, and in some cases fatally tortured them afterward. Republicans all over the country are silent. If anything, they will still express pride in replacing the immoral Bill Clinton with one of their own.
Among other things, this must mean that Democrats have healthier sex lives. Apparently Republican women think blow jobs are immoral, but sexual torture and murder are ok. Republican men, I pity you.- Dibou, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3No one was fatally tortured.
Bill Clinton was impeached because of PERJURY. That is a crime. His adultery is just what typical Democrats do when they "feel" that it is right. And, yes, Bill Clinton was immoral.
You carry your flawed logic into saying Democrats have healthier sex lives. Maybe they have orgies in some bathroom stall with anonymous people, but quantity does not make a healthy sex life. Again, if you re-examine your flawed logic you can begin to see the pattern that you don't know what you are talking about with pretty much everything.- enki25, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Actually the only people having orgies in airport bathrooms are conservative republican congressmen. This is because one of the pillars of conservative ideology is to suppress natural urges until they explode. If you guys were all just honest about being gay, you'd be at home in bed with some dude, instead of hiring gay strippers and stringing up innocent Iraqis.
But yeah, I know what you're referring to about PERJURY, and I could pretty much take you apart on that argument if you were smart enough to discuss it. But you probably couldn't even tell me the statement he made and why it was supposedly a lie.
Here's the prisoner who died of torture, you ***** idiot:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story ... - wonkavsn, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Sound logic can't be built on speculation and over-generalization.
- DrShotgun, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilawar_(human_rights ...
No one was fatally tortured. Right. - Dibou, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Are you actually putting forth the theory that conservatives are all closeted gays? Are you really saying that these gay people are so screwed up they don't even understand themselves? Are all these gay people that mentally ill? Are they that sick?
Are you really disparaging these supposed gays that much?
Shame on you to think so low of gay people.
And just for the facts, most gays vote Dem, and most people having anon sex on beaches and bathroom stalls are gay. Just FYI.
Here are some of the lies Clinton made under oath:
Q: Did you have an extramarital sexual affair with Monica Lewinsky?
WJC: No.
Q: If she told someone that she had a sexual affair with you beginning in November of 1995, would that be a lie?
WJC: It's certainly not the truth. It would not be the truth.
Q: I think I used the term "sexual affair." And so the record is completely clear, have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court?
WJC: I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. I've never had an affair with her.(11)
He also committed obstruction of justice.
As for the dead Iraqi, I read that article and it proves nothing. It is just some liberal site speculating about some prisoner caught during a battle. You might be surprised to know that during battles there can be massive injuries to people. You might be surprised to know that some people are even killed during battles. Where did this guy get his injuries? The article just pretends they were made by the CIA. Get me a real source. I can admit I'm wrong given the proper evidence.
- enki25, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Actually the only people having orgies in airport bathrooms are conservative republican congressmen. This is because one of the pillars of conservative ideology is to suppress natural urges until they explode. If you guys were all just honest about being gay, you'd be at home in bed with some dude, instead of hiring gay strippers and stringing up innocent Iraqis.
- Roger_Ramjet, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3Bill Clinton was impeached by LYING to a federal judge. The BJ was immaterial. But that blue dress wasn't!
- enki25, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1Yeah yeah, we know the conservative approach to lying is simply to refuse subpoenas and then act like a retard, but do you even know what they claim Bill's lie was? Or do you just puke that out whenever somebody calls you on impeaching a popular president for a sexual transgression?
- Dibou, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Follow this link to the grounds for Clinton's impeachment including his lies.
http://www.cnn.com/starr.report/7groundsa.htm#L6
- Dibou, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3No one was fatally tortured.
- rmmcclay, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3Lying about blowjobs is worthy. That's because it's comprehensible as a "crime". But the Bush Administration's crimes are incomprehensible...they're beyond imagination...beyond comprehension....it's just like the truth that came out during the Iran-Contra hearings in the '80's. The CIA was moving cocaine into the States. Does anyone remember that? It was incomprehensible and therefore it just draws a blank stare.
- Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Everyone remembers it - it is only Americans that seem to have the memories of goldfish, if not this "They hate us for our freedom" crap would never have flown.
And yet, it was eaten up like freedom fries...
- Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Everyone remembers it - it is only Americans that seem to have the memories of goldfish, if not this "They hate us for our freedom" crap would never have flown.
- bumcheekcity, on 07/08/2008, -2/+4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
History will judge us hashly, all of us. - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Using "sexual tension" is a sex crime?
- Kyan, on 07/08/2008, -5/+10 Buried. How much crap can we handle from Huffington post? This article is stupid.
- JasonCox, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5Sex crimes at Gitmo? You sure you're not thinking of Abu Ghraib?
- Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2what makes you think it isn't both? If it is allowed in one prison - bet your bottom dollar Rice, Cheney, Rummy, Bush, et el have decided that anything is allowed in their search for the bad guys.
Would be easier if they would just use a mirror.
- Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2what makes you think it isn't both? If it is allowed in one prison - bet your bottom dollar Rice, Cheney, Rummy, Bush, et el have decided that anything is allowed in their search for the bad guys.
- Logisti, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3I'm sorry, but this is a load of crap. They're taking a real issue: the mistreatment of prisoners -- and over-inflating it. "Sexualizing" it, if you will. I don't think it is permissable to strip a prisoner naked for the purposes of humiliating them either, but for Naomi Wolf to characterize this as on-par with rape is blatantly dishonest. I don't think anyone who has ever BEEN raped would take kindly to comparing what THEY went through with making someone stand around naked with a bag over their head.
Again, there is NO QUESTION this acts are vile and those who authorized and carried them out should be held accountable, but that in no way excuses this garbage reporting done by Ms. Wolf. With this kind of journalism the next thing we'll be hearing is that our government is conducting germ warfare experiments on the prisoners, and this claim will somehow be built out of a report of unsanitary conditions.
Remember how people said the world's sympathies were with us after 9/11 and the Bush administration squandered that sympathy? I am 100% against the treatment of prisoners this way, but if the activists trying to bring this issue to the forefront are going to be dishonest bullies who will dream up imaginary charges to throw directly at people like Condeleeza Rice of all people -- perhaps the most moderate figure IN this administration and certainly the most reasonable, not to mention someone who is barely linked to this scandal circumstantially at best -- then I'm just disgusted and will have no part of it.- MatildaMiller, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4The article describes anal penetration, not just naked people standing around with bags on their head.
If anal penetration, even by a foreign object and not a penis, isn't rape, it's certainly rather impolite. And not anything our founding fathers would appreciate. (With the possible exception of Ben Franklin.) - Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+7How is penetration not rape? Come over here, let me introduce you to a flashlight, and then you tell me you weren't violated....
How can you even attempt to justify what has happened?
- MatildaMiller, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4The article describes anal penetration, not just naked people standing around with bags on their head.
- morandir, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5Yeah....buried.
If you're going to toss out accusations of rape and prostitution rings organized by White House officials, you might want to provide something known as "evidence" or "proof".- Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3See that is the problem with the states secret stuff.... You want evidense? How about the fact they denied the place even existed, then they denied the reports, then they tried to change the definition of torture.....
At what point in time do you start to get it? These guys ARE the bad guys. - TheInformer, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2When has any story from huffingtonpost.com worried itself with trivialities like evidence and proof? The National Enquirer never did.
- Waiting2awake, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3See that is the problem with the states secret stuff.... You want evidense? How about the fact they denied the place even existed, then they denied the reports, then they tried to change the definition of torture.....
- vexingmodstwo, on 07/08/2008, -5/+6HuffPost. Spam.
- liuite, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Let us not operate under a double standard. Judge and you will be judged!
- Dibou, on 07/08/2008, -2/+4"It's not that I am a genius."
I think this part of the article pretty much sums it up. - cl1tcommander, on 07/08/2008, -3/+2I know I'm gonna get dugg down for this, but this link was on the same page, and I ended up reading all about it instead of the submitted article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/07/mini-mes- ...
All of these things are a sure sign of the apocalypse, I know it. - JointVenture, on 07/08/2008, -6/+6Ariana Huffington is a *****.
- phosphite, on 07/08/2008, -3/+4The sheep (citizens) of the U.S. wouldn't care what you did with the prisoners. They're prisoners, so they're automatically guilty, slice & dice em if need be.
As long as it doesn't affect their weapons, gas, or TV, they're fine to live and graze in their own little world. - Jaguwar, on 07/08/2008, -4/+7 Blah, blah, F-word blah blah moveon.org talking point. blah blah George Bush is Hitler blah blah shredding the constitution blah blah Guantanamo fascists. Blah blah something I heard on the Daily Show blah blah F-word blah blah Huffington Post talking point, blah blah torture fascists Blah blah Fox news blah blah.
Blah blah something my college professor with the pony tail once said blah blah Dick Cheney blah blah Abu Ghraib blah blah lied about Iraq blah blah. When will America wake up blah blah neo-cons blah blah Karl Rove blah blah NSA blah blah neo-con blah blah. fascists racist homophobic blah blah.
Whewwww, I am drained, speaking truth to power is so exhausting, I think I will listen to the new Coldplay on my iPod, have a latte and edit my Facebook page. - TheInformer, on 07/08/2008, -4/+4huffingtonpost.com is the source.
Time to go to rushlimbaugh.com and read similarly unbiased news. - ElDiablo6870, on 07/08/2008, -1/+0Doesn't it give you a warm, fuzzy safe feeling to talk to me like that on the internet. Your parents should have tought you manners... so I guess it is not your fault? Right?
- kolobcreek, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1Absolutly and to the fullest extent of the law, immediately after every terrorist has been held accountable for the murders of women and children. And for the bombing of markets where people buy food for their families. And the rape and murders of generation of innocent people.
- obamayomama, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Anyone enjoy a good cigar?
- Roger_Ramjet, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2By any means necessary, is it? Why not just make crap up and be done with it? Oh wait, YOU ARE!
- BooObama, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Why? Next to nothing happened when Bill Clinton committed sex crimes in the White House.
- gnat74, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1I think they should HANG all those bastards in Cuba. I really don't give a F**K about these Muslim whack jobs. Let them go and they will get us back!!! They want to see ala ....Lets show them the way!!!. Remember This is war and they ARE the bad guys. All you liberal Pu**ies that want to let them go....Let you family be the first they go after...then I am sure you will cry to the govt. and say....Why can't you help us!!! You people make me sick!!
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