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  • simplegeek, on 04/18/2008, -15/+38image mirror if needed:
    http://imagebackup.net/files/1023.php
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -23/+10And yet, if you are sophisticated and intelligent, you don't need to display false badges of other people's honor.

      If you have any integrity, you quietly support the troops, and you don't need to show off to your neighbors just to feel good about yourself.

      In other words, if you are intellectually honest, you go to this site and do something: http://www.anysoldier.com

      All others are posers. I am against the Iraq war, while I agree with going after the taliban and al-qaeda in Afghanistan. But being against the policy doesn't mean I am against the soldiers. I've sent care packages to troops in both theaters. I've even shipped a dorm fridge to a rapid reaction force in Camp Anaconda in Iraq back in 2005.
      • SomeImagination, on 04/18/2008, -1/+22I hate it when people tag unrelated replys onto other people comments just so they can get more noticed
      • griz, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3Badges? ...
        • BrotherHero, on 04/18/2008, -0/+8We don't need no stinkin badges!!!
        • bgrah449, on 04/18/2008, -2/+2I lol'ed. 5x funnier because you didn't complete it. Your comment wins, griz.
    • nshort21, on 04/18/2008, -8/+2nice job showing off at the end, kinda wrapped it all up....
      • nshort21, on 04/18/2008, -1/+6nice job replying to the wrong comment...
        • appurtenance, on 04/18/2008, -2/+2Nice job replying to yourself.
          [This is sincere. Few people own up to their mistakes!]
    • slvrbullet87, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5If people are going to give to the troops, you cant go wrong with the USO.
      http://www.uso.org/
    • Pimptastic, on 04/18/2008, -3/+4So by your logic of "If you have any integrity, you quietly support the troops", then should the anti war protesters also quietly protest?
      • slvrbullet87, on 04/18/2008, -3/+3Dont let logic get in the way of their hate.
      • funkytaco, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1These magnets are the commercial version of what used to be something more beautiful - a yellow ribbon tied around a tree. The *first* magnets were created by a military supporting organization (USO, i think) and proceeds went to supporting the troops, but that's not the case anymore. You're making some company rich.

        Try something more authentic to show you support the troops:
        http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/americasupportsy ...
  • Barman, on 04/18/2008, -15/+158I wonder how much money the company that came up with these has actually sent off to the troops or their families.
    • 31337turkey, on 04/18/2008, -3/+44what can i say, people are cheap. they rather spend a couple bucks on a magnet then a few dollars on a care package
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -15/+7Yeah, I can assure you all of the redneck fox news watching fools have never been to http://www.anysoldier.com

        But their neighbors who are as dumb and dimwitted as they are think highly of them for having that magnetic ribbon on their navigator or H2. They look down on anyone who has not fallen in line by putting one of those magnets on their cars.
        • andburn1, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5Look, spam for a good cause is still spam. Chill.
      • KingWilson, on 04/18/2008, -2/+2which ones cheaper. A couple bucks or a few dollars?
    • joebob793, on 04/18/2008, -40/+6If I ever meet the guy who made this, I'll kick him in the balls
      • TheLastFreeMan, on 04/18/2008, -4/+30Bravo, internet tough guy.
        • joebob793, on 04/18/2008, -13/+2If I were tough, I'd fight him... I'd kick him in the balls because I'm a wuss!
      • TheFirstKnight, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4Natalie Dee is a woman.
    • tlgjames, on 04/18/2008, -2/+19It depends on where you buy it at. If you buy them at military run stores such as AAFES/BX/PX/NEX, it goes to organizations that support veterans. However the one's at wal-mart? Who knows.
      • kreneskyp, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4but how many people are really shopping for them at military stores? Most people are getting them from walmart, the convenience store, etc. you know damn well its just someone exploiting peoples emotions.
    • fupher, on 04/18/2008, -1/+49I don't think China gives money to our military.
      • jasonmacsween, on 04/18/2008, -1/+12actually, they give billions in loans to the government .... which goes to the government
      • smokeymcdank, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4No *****. The simple fact that most of these are made in China should be (painfully) ironic enough. It just shows how empty pride can literally undermine our national security.
        • NetPyro, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2Undermine national security....vs....purchase foreign-made products. ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT gross exaggerations on the internet.
    • pyromaster114, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4Answer: None.
      Anything bought at Wal-Mart or any other store is funneled to china and walmart headquarter's bank accounts.
    • snotrokit, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6dugg for knowing what an AAFES/BX/PX/NEX is. Damn I miss those stores. :(
    • xlneoMAXlx, on 04/18/2008, -8/+3Actually, Mr. Witty Comeback, I bet theyve donated plenty. You, on the other hand, most likely have not.
    • Kronk42583, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2what can i say? people are stupid. how many yellow ribbon on your gas guzzler SUV rips can we make until we are sick of hearing about it? anybody who is stupid enough to beliee that the ribbon has any meaning, has already bought one. diggers are smarter than this, and should be sick of reading stupid an repetetive stories like this one. buried.
  • TomK88, on 04/18/2008, -94/+48At least they're better than the people who call American troops murderers.
    • CTK14A, on 04/18/2008, -14/+86While we're at it... that puppy was already dead.

      "Well, we're planning to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, plus one puppy," says Dick Cheney.
      "Why would you include killing a puppy in your war plan?" says Condoleeza.
      Cheney nudges Bush and says, "See? I told you nobody would care about the Iraqis."
      • cowman80i9, on 04/18/2008, -10/+11i heard the same joke except it was hitler, jews, and a clown
      • centerblack, on 04/18/2008, -6/+13Actually, the puppy wasn't dead. Motari made a claim on his blog that they came across a dog and its litter of puppies, the mom was already dead, and so were most of the puppies. One was alive but sick. They couldn't bring it back to base with them, so their option was to kill it quickly or let it die in the sun.

        IMO making a video of it and laughing about it wasn't the correct choice. I probably would have put the thing in the truck and caught hell over it anyway.
        • MetalCharms, on 04/18/2008, -6/+2So? That doesn't mean they have to.
        • LadyKofNYC, on 04/18/2008, -8/+3You actually believe that story? LMAO!!!!
          • centerblack, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Did I say I believed the story? No, I ***** didn't. Regardless of what Motari's reasoning and/or excuse was, my point was that the puppy was alive by his own ***** admission! That's in stark contrast with what CTK14A posted right above me, saying that the puppy was dead.

            Learn to read.
        • lamiaconfitor, on 04/18/2008, -3/+11If true; Yeah, because dying of massive internal hemorrhaging is much faster then a bullet to the brain.
          If false; (IE in reality) He's just an *****.
          • centerblack, on 04/18/2008, -4/+2Eh ok? I wasn't commenting on any of that. I was just trying to give some background instead of posting "NO THE PUPPY WAS ALIVE" so that the thread didn't degenerate into:

            NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS , NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS, NO IT WASN'T, YES IT WAS

            AGREE TO DISAGREE?
    • dinostabOMG, on 04/18/2008, -11/+6Nope.
    • xtinamo, on 04/18/2008, -8/+21I don't think many people are actually calling the troops murderers...only the people at the top who've sent them there.
      • 5urr3al5am, on 04/18/2008, -7/+2ah only the liberals.. al gore.. etc
        • dogen83, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Please cite a source with a quote of Al Gore calling US Soldiers murderers, or stop making things up, ok?
    • Vileputrid, on 04/18/2008, -19/+23Well I wouldn't call them "agents of peace". "Murderers" seems a lot more accurate. Actually, how about "mercenaries", "minions" or "brainless drones"?
      • wtrwlkr, on 04/18/2008, -7/+14Tell that to the thousands of Indonesians we helped after the tsunami. I agree that Iraq is an unjust war, but insulting those who defend the US as well as provide assistance to hundreds of countries worldwide makes you look like a giant a**hole.
        • Vileputrid, on 04/18/2008, -12/+1waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
        • EricSchC1, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2What good is help when we still oppress and/or kill those people not during a natural disaster??? Lets face it, NO ONE joins the military to start a tickling contest. You enlist, pick up a gun, you travel to far of distant lands and kill one or one thousand brown people on their home soil, you are in fact a murderer. We're not defending national security in Iraq, we're using violence to protect the financial interests of those living in the ivory tower. No murderer kills people all day every day, but they do wrongfully kill people. Not one Iraqi has deserved to die by an American Soldier's hand in this war. Doing good deeds, doesn't excuse the bad ones, when the bad ones are as heinous as they are.
      • wtrwlkr, on 04/18/2008, -4/+5Hey, that's just great. You know how to hold down the 'a' key. When you have something intelligent to say, just let me know, k?
      • Jude007, on 04/18/2008, -1/+7They are just doing a job, a job they shouldn't be doing.
        • ciaran036, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2they are still murderers. They just don't realise it.
        • coyote1284, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2*Dons "Burklee view of US Armed Forces" hat* Hell yeah! God I love killin me some babies (by proxy) from a desk in the middle of America. What I wouldn't give to be in the middle of Iraq where I could get a chance to squeeze off a few rounds into a little rag-head! Damn, I gotta go beat off now thinking about it. USA USA USA USAAAAAAAAAAA! *removes hat*
      • tomjm5000, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2Just following orders?
        • clyde2801, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Yeah, that worked at Nuremberg, didn't it?
      • Nefphilim, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Your sarcastic tone is neither appreciated or helpful. The truth of the matter is, every individual will hold THEMSELVES accountable for their actions whether they realize it or not, regardless of whether these actions were self-motivated or delegated from the powers that be. Being of an advanced intellect you should and would actually empathize with the fact they've sacrificed karmic purity for the sake of following orders.
      • ndesantis, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1hey vileputrid... ***** YOU
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -9/+21Tomk88, you watch way too much Fox News.

      Other than a minor fringe of idiots and teenage trolls, nobody is calling our soldiers murderers.

      The majority of people who are against the war in Iraq are against the policy, not our troops. A great number of people who protest the war still go to http://www.anysoldier.com and send care packages to volunteer servicemen who then hand these packages to guys in their unit who are not getting a lot of mail from home, or sharing the care packages amongst their unit.

      I bet that as much as you hate all those "libtards", and those anti-american protestors, YOU have never once sent anything in support of our troops. Yet you believe, in your heart, that being against the war in Iraq is the same as being against our soldiers.

      Unfortunately, the people who support war don't understand the difference between supporting "war" and supporting the people who have to fight those wars. Being against a bad idea doesn't make someone hate the people who are stuck in the middle of that bad idea.

      I'm sorry if I have miscategorized you, but if you are one of those people, you are a ***** moron. What have you done for this country, besides placing a magnetic sticker on your SUV? Of course it was a magent, we don't want to put an actual sticker on your leased SUV that you bought with your over-extended home equity line of credit, would we???

      Watch NASCAR 'nuff?
      • EricSchC1, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Why can't we be opposed to the global armed forces, as a whole? This is the 21st Century, couldn't we, as a species, y'know...evolve the idea that military action effectively fixes things and let our words do the repair? I'm not trying to single out the US armed services, mind you. Anyone who uses militaristic violence as a means of resolving socio-political issues is a murderer, or at the very least a violent neanderthal. However, its very hypocritical to claim we're the best country in the world, when we resort to the same tactics as anyone else.
    • ciaran036, on 04/18/2008, -7/+3Fun Fact: They ARE murderers!
      If you kill someone, you are a murderer. And even if we didn't count the 'rebels' deaths, there's still between 7,000-12,000 unarmed civilian deaths in Afghanistan and hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in Iraq - so that's a lot of murderers.
    • atticus8, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3As long as you are wearing your flag lapel pin, you're good with me. Who but a traitor wouldn't want to be compelled at all times to wear a flag lapel pin?
      • ciaran036, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2That's ridiculous. Just because you live in a country does not mean you have to love it to bits and promise to side with the US, regardless of what awful crimes their government get up to every day at home and abroad.
    • Pherdnut, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Aside from the rare idiot, nobody does that. Just like nobody would be ashamed of our troops for returning home without winning a victory without knowing what the objective was supposed to be in the first place. There was plenty of that garbage from both sides in the '60s and '70s which is why the yellow ribbon propaganda of associating support for troops with support for the war has been so effective.
  • PinkFloydFan, on 04/18/2008, -45/+8Don't worry, he will heal us all with his noodley appendage...

    http://digg.com/comedy/Then_he_healed_me_with_his_ ...
    • tomjm5000, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2I would remind you that the flying spaghetti monster is designed to make creationists look bad, not to be a fall-back on serious matters.
  • waluum, on 04/18/2008, -76/+31Thanks for reposting this for the 100,000th time - I was worried after I saw it 99,999 times that I would not make it to 100,000! Phew!
    • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -6/+27I've never seen it.

      Quit whining, it makes you sound pathetic.
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -4/+9It makes him sound like a Fox News Channel true believer who has been told a million times how all of us rational people are just trying to destroy America.

        Because Lord knows, all of the people that Fox News claims are trying to defend America have done such a good job that our economy is the best it has ever been, and our industrial base is growing, and our ranking in the world for things like life expectancy, infant mortality, education, upward mobility is GOING UP (as far as Fox News might say).

        Oh, *****, I'm sorry, we are ranked something like 28th for infant mortality, and 15th for literacy, and all of the other rankings come up pretty poorly for the United States.

        Some people actually think that this is by design, like Lou Dobbs, who believes there is an agenda of slowly deteriorating American power to the point where it will more easily integrate in a "world government". Others think it is the result of a goal of lowering our standard of living in order to equalize it with the developing world, so that they can be easily integrated into the new world order.

        No matter what conspiracy theory prevails, it is undeniable, we are in a major state of decline. Most can remain living in a state of denial because up until 2 years ago, their houses kept appreciating, so they could remain above water even if their salaries kept falling below inflation adjusted cost of living measures. And they can still keep denying it because they watch Fox News which reassures them that there is nothing wrong and everything is just great.

        BUT, being delusional does not change reality.
    • kue04, on 04/18/2008, -5/+3Seen it before also, your not the only one.
      • skankyBacon, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2Coincidentally, YOU'RE not the only one who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".
      • danno74, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1I have seen it too, like 2-3 years ago.
    • ivansusanin, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4nobody gives a *****
  • sUGArDawg, on 04/18/2008, -29/+15Most civilians don't know how to "support the troops" anyway
    • Vileputrid, on 04/18/2008, -12/+21lol @ "civilians". That's how you can tell a soldier/cop is a prick.
      • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -5/+1mos def
      • wtrwlkr, on 04/18/2008, -5/+13When we say "civilian" we don't mean it offensively. Not in the armed forces = civilian. Why so defensive? And the people digging this a**hole's comment up are the real pricks. Look at the other comments this guy has posted in this thread. He hates the men and women in uniform. My guess is that he joined the army, went to boot camp and started whining when the "mean guy with the round hat started yelling at me!". He then proceeded to attempt suicide and got discharged after 2 weeks.
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -8/+4Do you even know what a "civilian" is, *****?

      Even a soldier is a civilan, who just happens to be currently in the service of one branch of the armed services.

      Being in an armed service does not deprive you of the right to vote, or pay taxes (unless you are in a combat zone, then you can defer your taxes until a later time.)

      Most "civilians" don't know how to properly, intellectually, participate in a democracy, either. So what's your point.
      • EricSchC1, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1No one in this country knows how to participate in a democracy, least of all, the military. Guns are only referenced once in the bill of rights, yet the armed forces has so many more than the rest of us.
    • sUGArDawg, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Most civilians don't know how the military operates. They don't know what we want, need, desire....so no, most civies do not know how to support us
  • Angelix, on 04/18/2008, -31/+14Seen this before on Digg.
    • Flashtone, on 04/18/2008, -2/+16I don't think we got the picture the first time.
      • jimmytootime, on 04/18/2008, -4/+2Uh... Oh i see what you did there...
    • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -1/+8I didn't.
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5CONGRATULATIONS!!! Angelix has proven his superior digg trawling skills by having seen this on digg before.

      I'm tired of these lazy idiots whose only argument is that it was on digg before, because they can't form an argument but are still against whatever idea is being dugg. Why not just not comment at all, if you've seen this so many times before, *****? Nobody is impressed that you saw it so many times before when nobody else has. In fact, maybe it shows that you have a delusional or psychopathic mind, where you read something that you dislike or disagree with, and you convince yourself that it has to be an over-repeated falsity that only those crazy libtards would continue to repeat because they are crazy.
  • hilikus34, on 04/18/2008, -55/+28How the ***** does this get dugg?
    • ComeOutSwingin, on 04/18/2008, -6/+43I may be mistaken, but I believe you click on the "digg it" button to the left of the story title. Good luck, friend!
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5The same way the stories you agree with get dugg. Only, more rational people are clicking on the "Digg It" link than when you agree with the story.
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3Quite simple really. I just click the "Digg It" button.
      Like clicking the thumbs-down on you...except the opposite.
    • CelloZach, on 04/18/2008, -1/+5Have you ever been to this website before?
    • 5urr3al5am, on 04/18/2008, -4/+2Digg owners/editors they're a bunch of California liberal hippies
      • armoreddillo, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1I'm from Texas,
        and I've dugg this pic each time it hits the upcoming.
        Digg's editors are the users...
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1You have been distracted by the california liberal hippy story, all the while the Northeast Elite liberals are the ones who are working together with the Neocons to subvert our national sovereignty.

        You should stop buying into whatever media outlet you diehardedly believe in, and just wake the ***** up.
    • juicebag, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1Because Digg is full of liberals. Not necessarily a bad thing, though.
  • trry96, on 04/18/2008, -49/+35uhhh...Maybe they have family serving? Maybe they're already doing whatever they can, and use a bumper sticker to symbolize their support?

    You're the prick.
    • felman87, on 04/18/2008, -10/+14If that's the case then there should only be about 200,000 of these.
      • ComeOutSwingin, on 04/18/2008, -5/+15Well, for each soldier in the war there could be dozens of friends and family.
    • Vileputrid, on 04/18/2008, -15/+4waaaaaaaaa sopart da trups dey fite fo freedums waaaaaaaaaa
    • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -7/+0wait....who's a prick exactly?
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -7/+15Yeah, well, I guess if you live in one of those flyover states, you might believe that.

      I live just outside of DC. My house is exactly a 10 mile drive to my office a half a block from the white house. I see those "support our troops" magnets on just about every SUV on my way to and from work. Granted, most of these fools are temporary residents here because we have a texas president, and there are thousands of people here from texas doing lobbying, working in all levels of the administration, and whatever else (it was the same when GHW was in office, and we had a lot of Arkansa backwaters here during Bubba's tenure, too)

      But the point is, there is a lot of people, at least in this area, who believe that they are doing their part by putting a yellow ribbon magnet on their gas guzzling SUV. They don't have a family member in the service. They don't really understand what it means to serve. They have no idea what war means other than what they've seen on the evening news or saw in a movie. They just know that they are doing their part because they saw that magnet for sale at the gas station or in a 7-11, and they truly believe that when they spent that money, it was somehow going to help the troops.

      Besides, all of their neighbors had one, so they couldn't be the only one in the neighborhood to not have on on their oversized Navigator.

      In fact, maybe that's what these idiots believe will absolve them from driving H2's and Expeditions, that they are buying the equivalent of "carbon credits" by slapping a "support our troops" magnet on their 12 mile per gallon behemoths, they are absolved from their ignorance.

      I mean, John Sununu lives in my townhouse complex. He's the senator from New Hampshire. He or his wife drives an SUV with personalized New Hampshire plates, "3", I'm guessing the governor gets "1", and the lieutenant governor gets "2" and the senator gets "3" or maybe he just made that up on his own. But he drives an SUV and thinks he's "number three in New Hampshire".

      And he has a magnetic ribbon on his SUV. He certainly supports the troops. He voted them into war!
    • lazlonger, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3you had a really good point. not the end of the discussion but a really good point. you were right, until you called them a prick. you're it now. prick-tag!
    • kreneskyp, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2symbolize?

      what these people are doing is either 1) bragging about their "patriotism" or 2) trying to prove they are a patriot. If you are supporting the troops just to get thanks then you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1You have it exactly right. If you truly support the troops, you don't seek external validation, you seek internal gratification.

        It feels really good to go to http://www.anysoldier.com to donate money or send a care package to a soldier who rarely receives mail from home. This is internal gratification, something all the SUV drivers, or the Ferrari drivers, or the people who need to be a part of a group (like fox news viewers, or pseudo-conservatives who like the warhawk neocons, etc) cannot understand.

        Sometimes it feels really good to do something because you know it is right and you don't need to be recognized for it.
    • zyryx, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3and I'm sure they pray too, which helps just as much as some ***** sticker...
  • yellowfish04, on 04/18/2008, -13/+266the funny thing is that most of these sticker-ribbons are made overseas. Support your troops and your future Chinese overlords simultaneously!
    • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -3/+30And most of the ones I see are on SUVs and other low-efficiency vehicles. As if it's saying "I know I drive a pig, but look! I'm a patriot! I support the troops!"

      Yellow ribbons on your car have become as meaningless as flag lapel pins.

      Most of the time, it's the scoundrels that plaster themselves with them.

      Want to support the troops? Stop wasting gas.
      • MetalCharms, on 04/18/2008, -8/+2I can't help it. I drive a truck but can't afford a different vehicle. Wasn't my choice in the first place. Stop assuming we drive them to waste gas. We do it because we wanted to and then paid too much for gas causing us to not have enough money for a new, expensive hybrid.
        • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -2/+7I couldn't help it! It was the only vehicle for sale in my town!

          Pick your vehicles a little more intelligently. It's really not that hard.
        • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -1/+9You don't have to buy a hybrid. In fact, Hybrids are sort of a joke.

          What you can do is buy a car that is fuel efficient, and stop driving to Starbucks to get your cup of coffee on the way to work. I have a coffee machine, and I can buy a pound of really gourmet coffee for about $9.00 a pound (and you can buy even cheaper coffee) that lasts me about a month, as opposed to going to Starbucks where it would cost you $9.00 in only 2 or 3 days, maybe 4. Not that the savings in coffee matters for fuel efficiency, but the cost of gas to drive to starbucks on your way to work, that does matter.

          Sell your truck and buy a slightly more fuel efficient car. Then you can put a sticker on your car that says "I support our troops by not consuming more than my fair share of gasoline"
      • tomjm5000, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1I mean, I don't think a few more Prius' would really alter the outcome in Iraq... we've already spent a lot more money there then we'll ever get back in accessible oil....
    • SuperMoses, on 04/18/2008, -5/+5Is this true? I mean, I know people are getting in the habit is saying that everything is made in China..but are these ribbons and stickers really being made in China?
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -3/+9Where else do you think they are being made?

        Remember those silly car window flags (you know, that used to be for drunks to fly that showed their favorite NFL team?) of the American Flag that every SUV driving fool had hanging from their passenger door windows after 9/11???

        Yeah, those were made in China.

        You'd be shocked to find out how much of what the troops are being supplied with in Iraq was made in China.

        Even the "hummer" is now being produced in China, though I think that is just the defense contractor selling their technology to China for a quick profit. I doubt the chinese made hummers are being used by American forces (though, I could be wrong, but I pray that I'm not.)
    • shinkickedjim, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3look, i don't know for SURE either. but i want you to think about the odds on this one. i'd say there's a 90% chance they're from china. i'd say there's a 99.9% chance they're from asia.
      america as we know it would be impossible without the practically free labor of china.
      • samus007, on 04/18/2008, -1/+0Pretty sure this company makes all it's products in the U.S. I have one of there ribbons and it says Made in the U.S.A. on it.
        http://www.advancedgraphicsinc.com/new/ribbons.htm ...
        • shinkickedjim, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2well that's good to know, but i'm sure there are tons of other companies that don't.
        • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Awesome. So at least we know the American sticker manufacturing industry still has a few jobs here. That'll keep our economy afloat!

          But then clothing made in Saipan sweatshops also says "made in U.S.A."
        • PhilLesh69, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1bjornski,

          There was a law passed by either Clinton or Bush, I don't know who, because it was like in late 2000 or early 2001. The law changed the meaning of "made in the USA". Now, according to this law, there are levels of classificaiton. There's "assembled in the USA" or "Made in the USA by parts sourced overseas" or "Made in the USA with non-US parts" (I'm not sure the exact classifications, but those are generalized representations)

          Even Toyota can claim a car to be made in the USA "with US and foreign parts".

          They've changed the definition on us. Those of us who can remember the debates in the 80's about tarrifs, embargos and protectionist policies would be left to believe that anything that says "made in the USA" really means that. However, they let the debate die down, and then when we were focused on some other issue, they changed the rules.

          I do know that a family friend buys components from Taiwan and China, ships them to Long Beach, and assembles them in a shop in San Diego, and can claim "made in the USA" (with an asterisk that explains the "made" part only means that the final product has been assembled here)

          According to some people's explanation of how bad it is, I could have an entire pool table manufactured in China, shipped over here in sections, and as long as it was assembled into a complete pool table here in the US, I could slap a "made in the USA" label on it. Though, I think there's a bit more to that loophole than that.
    • benbenbenben, on 04/18/2008, -9/+4And how are all of you supporting the troops? By digging another "Bush officially sucks" article? Are you REALLY all going out and buying armor or providing a way home for these guys, you're just a big ***** hypocrite like the very people you're bashing right now. Get off your computer and instead of complaining to those who already agree with you, try making a difference in the world.
      Pathetic.
      • yellowfish04, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3I'm supporting the troops by not voting Republican this November. What else am I supposed to do? Are you seriously suggesting that I should go and buy armor and mail it to Iraq? Huh?!
      • EricSchC1, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2I'd rather support the general benefit of the species, than a few thousand killer-soldiers (Gasp! They are there to kill and/or oppress, not make quilts) or the rich SOBs who sent them there to do their dirty work. Do something good for humanity and evolve beyond the idea that militaristic violence from any sovereign nation fixes anything. It doesn't.
      • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1You've enlisted, right benbenbenben?

        How are YOU supporting the troops? With a yellow sticker on your truck? Wearing a flag pin on your lapel?
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1You are pathetic benbenbenben, because you assume that anyone who comments on digg is doing just what your uncle Bill O'Reilley tells you they are doing, which is just plain liberal belly aching.

        I bet you've never dreamed of sending a care package to the soldiers, have you? What have YOU done to support the troops?? Did you buy one of those yellow ribbon magents? Did you vote for George Bush? That's just great, because you have basically done nothing, and by voting for GW, all you've done is serve further insult onto our soldiers.

        If you mailed, at your own personal expense, a 3.3 cubic foot refrigerator (plus the $75 shipping) to a rapid reaction force at Camp Anaconda, maybe you are not the pathetic one.

        Yes. I am against the war in Iraq. I knew that it would be a quagmire from the beginning (unless we decapitated and pulled out). I knew that by staying there, we were only going to replay what has occurred time and again (Somalia, Vietnam, Angola, Afghanistan for the Russians, etc, etc, etc.) I am still against us being there.

        But I know that the men and women fighting over there are my fellow citizens, they are fellow Americans more than any of the politicians who sent them there.

        The politicians who sent them there are no longer American citizens, they are citizens of the world who are trying to create a global government (both democrat and republican, they are all in bed with the same globalist and corporatist ideologues)
    • badenglishihave, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2Um... at least some ARE made in the USA according to the FAQ at http://www.magnetamerica.com/FAQ.html :

      "Q: Why should I buy your products?

      A: We are committed to providing our customers with the highest quality product possible. The materials we use help to insure our products will not fade, flake, or chip. Also, with minimal care our product will never cause damage to your vehicle. Additionally, our products are made in the USA and thereby help to fuel the U.S. economy and workforce. "

      That's just one site but it was #2 on google search for "support troops ribbon." If anybody has any information to the contrary I'd be interested to see it.
    • Massisa, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1More made in America. http://www.advancedgraphicsinc.com/new/ribbons.htm ...
    • billyjack1958, on 04/18/2008, -1/+7My husband is retired military and works for the post office. He got a nice fake gold pin honoring him for his service last year. I turned the pretty pin over and stamped in big bold letters on the back of it was "MADE IN CHINA"....I was torn between puking and screaming
    • Dystisis, on 04/18/2008, -5/+1God you guys are America-centric. Something being made in China isn't necessarily worse than it being made in the US. And I couldn't give a ***** whether or not China will be your future "overlords". Woo lolly, all this talk about the US being a huge empire in decline. *****. The US has been the biggest world power now, what, since the 1940's? Or later? And it is already falling?
      All your honor and pride is ignorance double standards.
      This economic model is bound to collapse soon, technology is outgrowing capitalism. The internet is for the working class in the capitalist system what the printing press was for the capitalist class in the feudal system. Renounce your nationality and fight for the global technological revolution.
      • laserblazer, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Have you seen how cheaply manufactured Chinese ***** is?
    • bgrah449, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6When we need China to finance both our war, and our patriotic zeal for the war, the dream has gone awry.
  • AMACTASTIC, on 04/18/2008, -5/+36*Hums to self*
    So stick magnetic stickers on your SUV....
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=KmsOIjzQ1V8
    (asylum street spankers)
    • redneckblues, on 04/18/2008, -1/+81. WTF?
      2. Dugg.
    • Jiert, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Dugg for Asylum Street Spankers.
      Go Gauchos
    • xerigen, on 04/18/2008, -0/+7I'm glad you posted this, I was going to but I searched the page for youtube. That video is hilarious and sadly true.
    • OutAndAbout, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Thanks for turning me on to them!
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -0/+7It's amazing how the people that this comedy skit is making fun of will never get it, even if they actually see this video.

      Denial is a bitch.
    • Schrodinger2, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2That guy has a nice voice(no *****)
    • diskit, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2***** win!
  • turnthepage, on 04/18/2008, -9/+17Yeah, "What is really means" I couldn't have said it any better myself.
  • cmFd, on 04/18/2008, -31/+21...and what exactly is this guy doing? except the fact that he's trying to turn a ribbon of pride and honor into a badge of shame and guilt...
    • dinostabOMG, on 04/18/2008, -6/+30Awesome, you can buy pride and honor for 1.89 at a gas station.
      • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -2/+16hell yeah! I bought 34 of them, I have more pride and honor than anyone!
      • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -3/+15Chinese-made pride and honor.
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -3/+15a ribbon of pride and honor? What the ***** are you talking about?

      A consumer product purchased at a convenience store or gas station does not give the purchaser any honor, though maybe a false sense of pride.

      a "ribbon of pride and honor" is EARNED, *****. Like my father earning his combat paratrooper, combat infrantryman's badge, his ranger tab, his pathfinder tab, or his two bronze stars.

      What ribbon of pride and honor have you earned other than the one you bought as a frightened pussy afraid of more 9/11's in a gas station?
    • forgottenhope, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5wow, the words pride and honour, out of the bush language to marginalize my patriotism with this ***** word. ***** you, all the made up emotions you can think of wont change the fact that the commander and chief will be tried for war crimes. ***** you
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -3/+8I didn't realize pride and honor were made in China and sold in Wal-Mart for a $1.89...what a deal!
      moron
    • VSpec1, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4I LOL'd. You are a ***** idiot. Pride and honor...how the ***** do you figure that? It's a ***** magnet you can buy almost anywhere now. And I love how these were non-existent before 9/11, and now it's like a ***** fashion item for your vehicle.
    • cmFd, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1does a symbol of support have to cost a lot to be meaningful? does it have to be hard to find to be authentic? i hope not

      i really don't see what's wrong with buying a ribbon to show a little patriotism.

      i really didn't think my point of view was grounds for '***** you', '***** idiot', 'moron', and '*****', 'a frightened pussy of more 9/11's'

      ?
      • EricSchC1, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2No, but realistically, I question the intelligence of anyone who takes pride in this *****-pit of a country in the first ***** place. Failing economy, growing health and environmental epidemics that get swept under the rug, an amoral and illegal war(the breakdown of diplomacy as a viable solution to solve differences)...Go us! Being proud of this country is like the redneck who's proud of his trailer/house the day after the maid comes. It might be tidy, kinda, but its still a ***** redneck's trailer.
        • cmFd, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1I respect your opinion, and I am very aware of the nations slow decline over the last 7 years under the bush administration, but I'm curious to know if you've ever lived under third world conditions? I know first hand what its like to live in a '***** pit' countries, and the United States is far from it. Very far. I remain proud to be a citizen country and feel very lucky to be given all the opportunities and advantages presented to me that 80% of the world is not exposed to.

          Realistically, I'm not going to let anyone make me feel guilty or ashamed for sticking a ribbon of support on my car.
  • WileyII, on 04/18/2008, -33/+16Its called creating a presence, supporting nationalism and patriotism. Supporting our own in simple numbers, whether you agree with what they're or not. It isn't they're fault.
    Its the same idea as putting a "Obama/Hilary/McCain 08" sticker on your car. Are you actually donating money to their campaigns or out helping in rallies to support them? No, all your doing is making 1 vote out of millions. So are those people hypocrites too?
    Buried for being bs
    • Mikey9oo, on 04/18/2008, -4/+10I have an Obama sticker on my car and I volunteer for his campaign and donated money to it. Not only that, but I also bought the sticker directly from his campaign, therefore further funding it.

      Do these ribbons donate any money to soldiers? They should.
      • rpebble, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4Who knows, it depends on who it was bought from. They need better armored vehicles and a trip home, not empty promises and stickers of support pasted onto huge pointless gas-guzzlers...incidentally, the reason that they are there in the first place, the reason they have seen friends die, the reason we have friends who will never make it home.
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Mikey9oo, buying the sticker in order to give a little bit of money to your favorite candidate, and actually placing the sticker on your car are two different things.

        Nobody is going to vote for a candidate because they saw a sticker on a car they liked.

        I bought a dozen bumper stickers from http://www.anysoldier.com at $1.99 a piece. I've never put one on any of my cars. I bought the stickers to give them money.

        Come to think of it, in the case of anysoldier.com, I could have added value to my contribution by showing that URL to people as I commuted into Washington DC every morning. You would think that driving right by the White House every morning would expose that web site to a lot of supportive people.
        • Mikey9oo, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1I do not have the sticker on my car because I think it will get people to vote for him. I have the sticker on my car because I truly care about the candidate and I want to show my support for him and what I think is the best future for our country. I have donated plenty more money to his campaign than the 20 bumper stickers I bought, which I also distribute to other people.
    • Vileputrid, on 04/18/2008, -3/+9"creating a presence, supporting nationalism and patriotism"
      lawl indoctrination ***** for the weak-minded.
    • automate, on 04/18/2008, -1/+5You could start by volunteering for the Army
    • automate, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4You could start by volunteering for the Army
    • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -1/+12Buying a magnetic ribbon doesn't do *****.

      Go to http://www.anysoldier.com and put your money where your pussy is, ass.

      There are soldiers who don't even have family. They rarely, if ever, get any sort of mail at mail call. Do them a favor and send something to the troops. There are guys in almost every unit who will see letters and packages addressed to "anysoldier" and will hand them to guys who don't get mail that often. Or they will share whatever you send to their entire unit.

      A ***** magnet means NOTHING to a guy being shot at, sitting in some crappy place where people hate him. He can't even see you driving around to starbucks and home depot and walmart. When he's in a firefight, he doesn't have any idea how many redneck fools have yellow magnets on their gas guzzlers, but he might remember the guy who sent him some AA batteries, a bunch of power bars, a pack of under-armor t-shirts, some socks, and a nice letter saying something along the lines of "hey, I know it must suck over there, but eventually you'll be home. Just stay safe, dude, I'm praying for you"


      And yes, the people that put "obama" or "clinton" or "mccain" or "kerry" or "bush" bumper stickers on their cars are doing the exact same thing. Nobody is going to vote for a candidate because they drove behind a very nice looking green toyota corolla with that sticker. The driver feels like they accomplished something by putting that sticker on their car, but nobody is going to change their vote because they saw that sticker. At best, the owner is lucky they don't have their car keyed because someone who hates that candidate sees that sticker.

      You can only support the troops through ACTION. Not a bunch of words you bought in a gas station.
      • kinseyincanada, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2wow thanks for sharing that website, it hard to really image someone in Iraq not having family and not receiving, mail or any kind of support. Hopefully a couple of care packages i make will give at least one soldier a better day.
      • Matt2k, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1> Nobody is going to vote for a candidate because they drove behind a very nice looking green toyota corolla with that sticker.

        I agree with your sentiments but this isn't entirely true. I think you give people too much credit. Perception of popular opinion is a powerful thing, look what it did for RP on the internet.
  • benroy, on 04/18/2008, -8/+28I'm pretty sure that all those ribbon stickers are made in China anyway.
    Don't feed the beast.
    • samus007, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1Not all of them, I know for a fact that this company makes it's products in the U.S.
      http://www.advancedgraphicsinc.com/new/ribbons.htm ...
      • Massisa, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1Yeah, I work for that company. We make all our stuff in the states.
    • slothlovechunk, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4Who cares.

      I guess you want to be proud that we have the labor here unskilled enough to make a magnetic yellow ribbon? Don't you think our labor resources would be better spent somewhere more productive?
    • SwedishNinja, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1I find your grasp of the international political economy to be lacking.

      2/10
      • laserblazer, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Your trust in globalist economists and their often criminal bent gets a 0/10.
  • Picaroon, on 04/18/2008, -24/+25I didn't realize that it's impossible to donate to the USO, vote for anti-war candidates, and simultaneously have one of these on the vehicle. That's basically what the picture says.
    Buried as lame.
    • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -8/+8Except 99% of the people with these stickers DO NOT do that.

      They bought them while filling up their vehicles with the liquid we're killing people to keep control of, and thought buying a yellow piece of ***** to stick on their car would make them a better citizen. Well, thought that it would make OTHER PEOPLE think they were a better citizen.
      • ukfoole, on 04/18/2008, -3/+6Except 99% of the idiots like you think that 99% of the people don't do things for the troops have these magnets.

        Oh no, mythical statistic war.
      • bobburn, on 04/18/2008, -2/+7Have you ever been to a military town? Apparently this post also says the wives, husbands, parents, siblings, and children shouldn't do it either--if they happen to have an SUV. I'm sorry, buried as inaccurate and grossly ignorant.
      • Smaugrens, on 04/18/2008, -4/+4If you understood the average American mindset you'd realize that Bjornski is correct.
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -2/+6Picaroon, surely you realize that the vast, overwhelming majority of people with these stickers on their trucks are NOT voting for anti-war candidates or donating to the USO?
      Kudos to you for doing so, but you are an exception to the rule.
      Thanks for genuinely supporting the troops though. We appreciate it.
  • yellowfish04, on 04/18/2008, -33/+18potential: 7
    execution: 2

    buried.
    • duggdowncatisad, on 04/18/2008, -15/+0Liberals don't believe in execution.
      • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6awful.
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Do you mean that they do not believe it exists?

        Some liberals actually support execution, but are very careful in what they consider to merit execution.

        Then there are the people you don't believe in, people like me, conservatives who believe that execution needs to be a very carefully and rationally used deterrent.
    • slotimus, on 04/18/2008, -1/+12Potential: π
      Execution: √stfu

      Your comment sucks. Buried.
  • MCA2142, on 04/18/2008, -15/+1What it really means to support our troops is to spell check our messages outlining what it really means to support our troops on digg in order to support our troops.
    • rpebble, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1?
      • fxu1989, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3The title says "What is really...", should say "What it really..."

        He's just being a dick. Typical diggster.
  • mytibt, on 04/18/2008, -16/+8wait, so if i drive a sedan I have his 'permission' to keep my ribbon on? absurd
    • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -3/+7No. But if you're enlisted or have a family member who has, you do.

      If you just bought it so other people would think you gave a *****, you're a douchebag.
      • Namesbond, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4From my experience the soldiers doing the most don't need or want ***** like this.
      • PhilLesh69, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3So now commissioned officers don't count?

        Just because a guy went to West Point, or some other college or university and joined ROTC, he's garbage?

        Hold on just a minute, dude. My father graduated from West Point in 1964, and then went on to Paratrooper, Ranger and Pathfinder courses, then was a platoon leader in the first US based forces, the 1st of the 101st, sent to Vietnam in 1965, by Johnson, after the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

        Only EMs and family members of EMs are able to speak? I'm an Army brat. I grew up on forward deployed combat infatry division bases, I would go to my father's battalion barracks at all hours of day or night and meet his soldiers. I used to talk on the radio when the sergeant on duty needed to talk to a company out on the ranger course, I would repeat whatever he told me to say, because hearing a kid's voice made the guys going through the ranger course at Schofield Barracks laugh.

        I guess only the guys who enlist matter. Officers don't fight or make a difference.

        My father did his share of fighting. I guess you never saw "We were soldiers." Though, actually, all my father did in that battle was lead a platoon that guarded a fire support base 22 miles away from the battle. He had to sleep underneath 155mm howitzers that were glowing red from firing nonstop. And even though it wasn't as bad as the main battle, the division of NVA sent flaking attacks that he had to fend off.
        • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2You misunderstand me, Phil.

          I'm talking about the jack-off that comes home, gets ***** while watching the football game, drives a 10-mpg SUV, and shouts "WE DID IT" when all they've done is sit on the couch drinking beer and converting it to piss.

          THOSE are the people that normally fly these empty, pathetic "shows of patriotism".

          True patriots don't need to display a yellow sticker as they burn up twice as much gas as everyone around them.

          Support the troops? Great. Don't buy a ***** sticker to show off to everyone around you that you're a patriot.. Send the troops a letter, or donate some time.

          Wearing a cheaply made piece of ***** isn't "showing your support". Just like the flag lapel pins. Wearing one doesn't mean you support *****! It just means that you want everyone else around you to think that you do.

          Nothing is more hypocritical than a ***** "I support the troops" sticker on an SUV. It ranks right up there with a flag lapel pin on a scoundrels business suit, or a cross being worn by a pedophile priest.

          It means nothing, and only distracts from the fact that NO, you do NOT support what you are trying to convince everyone that you do.
    • elleohelle, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1*her* permission.

      the artist is a woman.
  • geoffg, on 04/18/2008, -21/+9Look mommy, I memorized all the anti-war talking points and wrote them on a yellow ribbon... did I get those bad neocons mommy?
    • maybach, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2It's more specific than a yellow ribbon, at least.
    • minorthreat, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4come on man... you can't see this isn't about liberals vs neocons??? Why do you guys always turn issues into that. Plain and simple, it's about idiots who put ribbons on their cars for whatever reason they do it. The right and neocons happen to be the ones guilty of doing this...
  • patpl22391, on 04/18/2008, -22/+12First, you insinuate that SUV's are evil, yet I'm sure you drive a car that does. *gasp* use gasoline.
    Second, you claim that the only thing these people do is put magnets on their cars. It may be the majority of them, but it sure isn't all of them.
    Third, I have a Marine Corps sticker on the back of my car on behalf of my brother who IS in the Marine Corp.
    • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -4/+2my question to you is why are you so offended if you find it useless?
      • mrinsanity, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4Why do people have to say things like "My question to you is..."? Just ask the question.
      • patpl22391, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1I'm saying that he i sjust generally assuming that people do nothing but put magnets on the "back of their SUV's"
    • notoneofus, on 04/18/2008, -5/+4SUVs *are* evil. Driving one is the vehicular equivalent of saying "don't mess with Texas."
      • Acewrap, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4...or the equivalent of saying "I need more space to transport stuff/people/whatever." There are valid reasons for large vehicles. I'm sure you don't want to be transporting four kids and a mastiff in a VW Rabbit.

        There are a lot of people who use them as status symbols, but not all.
    • mrinsanity, on 04/18/2008, -4/+4First: SUV's have poor gas milage. That on top of the fact that too many people drive SUV's just 'cause they're "cool" makes them impractical and harmful.

      Second: Sure, there might be some people who get a sticker AND send body armor overseas. Good for them, but something tells me it's not nearly as many people as there should be. The Yellow ribbons have by and large become merely a quasi-political statement.

      Third: Many hhanks to your brother who is in the Marine corps. BUT you didn't mention sending him any care packages in addition to your lovely sticker. That was the whole point of your post. What have you really done to support him? (I'm not insinuating that you haven't done anything, just that given your stance, it bears mentioning)
      • Namesbond, on 04/18/2008, -3/+3Do you own a commuter bicycle? If not shut the ***** up about SUV's.
        • Acewrap, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3I do. I also own a SUV for carrying my kayaks and a motorcycle for summer transport. What's your point?
    • jwegan, on 04/18/2008, -3/+1Dugg down for missing the point of this story. The point is the fact that the people who have these magnets are exacerbating the situation. If they were driving around in hybrids (I know hybrids are a half assed solution) they would at least be doing something to decrease the oil usage. The point of this article wasn't to rail against oil usage, but to rail against the fact that people pretend to "support the troops" while driving SUV's which guzzle oil more than any other vehicle and oil is the only reason we give a flying f*ck about the Middle East
  • kovac9478, on 04/18/2008, -16/+12Does it make it ok if i turn it sideways so it looks like a fish?
    • bjornski, on 04/18/2008, -4/+18No. Making a pro-war sticker into a "jesus fish" image isn't any better.

      In fact, it's even more of a douchebag move.
      • mrinsanity, on 04/18/2008, -2/+13Golly I hate Jesus Fishes.
      • emotecontrol, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Draw legs on them with a permanent marker.
    • Calibur, on 04/18/2008, -1/+8Most people with Jesus Fish don't even know where it comes from in history... just Christians exploiting Christians for money... oh wait thats most religions
      • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1"I have come to claim my 72 virgins!"

        "Great! We're just rolling up our characters! Do you want to be an elf or a dwarf?"
      • vbullinger, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com explains where the Jesus fish came from. Although I'm pretty sure Jordan Maxwell was their source, as he's in that movie.

        It's free. Check it out.
  • Payman25, on 04/18/2008, -49/+4***** THE ***** TROOPS
    • rpebble, on 04/18/2008, -2/+15Negative friendo, despite what many would tell you, it is completely possible to support the troops without supporting the stupid war. Many of them might be there for the wrong reasons ("I'm gonna kill me some iraqis!") but I know personally of several that are there for completely justifiable reasons ("I need to pay for college" or "I need to pay off these loans"). It's stupid to write off all those people without even thinking about it.
      • wtrwlkr, on 04/18/2008, -1/+4Thank you. The people yelling F**K the troops are playing directly into the hands of O'Reilly, Hannity and Limbaugh. They say that not supporting the Iraqi occupation = hating the troops. Complete and utter BS. Those in the armed forces who don't support the Iraq war, like myself, thank you.
        • Payman25, on 04/18/2008, -7/+0Any moron who joins a mercenary army deserves no respect regardless of their opinion on Iraq war. SO ***** YOU!
      • Payman25, on 04/18/2008, -9/+1"I need to pay for college" or "I need to pay off these loans"
        Leaching off of tax payers money to pay for loans is immoral.
        ***** THEM ALL.
        • lizlemoncello, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4Yes, God forbid anyone is in crisis and have nowhere else to turn but to the mercy of any government agencies.
        • wtrwlkr, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6Do you have anything intelligent to say? While sitting at the computer gorging yourself with freetos,think, just for 5 minutes, about something intelligent to add to this discussion. I don't care if it doesn't agree with my point of view, just think of something to say that doesn't include the tired cliche "F**K the troops!!1!" When you think of that comment, please type in the letters/numbers you see below the comment and press "submit comment". Until then, do the internet a favor and STFU.
          • MadMonk67, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3Obviously he doesn't. He's just sad that his heritage lies in the dustbin of history.
          • wtrwlkr, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3payman25: FAIL get off the internets
        • wrs123, on 04/18/2008, -0/+6So what exactly is your stance Payman? Joining the military is evil? Supporting our government is evil? You aren't a fan of camouflage? Make a point if you're going to say something so obtuse.
          And as for using government pay to pay off loans being immoral: A kid gets a job at McDonalds for the summer so he can buy a car. He is immoral for using those innocent customer's money for his own gains! How dare he use his income to better himself!
          If you don't think taxes should in part keep our military in order, move to a country that doesn't have a military and you won't have to worry about it.
    • casuallyevil, on 04/18/2008, -8/+7***** you. People have died for you, and you don't even understand why.
      • Payman25, on 04/18/2008, -8/+0***** them and ***** YOU!
      • tomjm5000, on 04/18/2008, -0/+9I'm not sure a lot of THEM understand why, at this point....
    • rpebble, on 04/18/2008, -0/+5Sometimes I wonder why people troll, but then again, I think i'm glad I don't understand. You must be very lonely.
    • NothingSoldier, on 04/18/2008, -7/+1You should be deported. God, how I wish sometimes that they would reinstate conscription.
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -0/+12You're retarded Payman. Get off the internet.
    • VSpec1, on 04/18/2008, -3/+4Go and kill yourself.
    • kue04, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3Say that to a soldiers face, I'm sure you'll be spitting teeth afterwords.
      • MadMonk67, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Oooh, someone's internet bravado limiter has broken! Trust me, you WOULD be in need of hospitalization if you ever grow sack enough to spew that ***** in front of someone who is or who cares about our soldiers. Now, go jack off to Bin Laden's picture again you piece of *****.
    • StoicHitman, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2hey payman, your obviously an arab and most likely a muslim. You are an excellent example of why the world should unite to eradicate filthy islam and all of it animal followers.
  • kwangness, on 04/18/2008, -12/+12I agree fully. I just wish someone would have said this about five years earlier.
    • GAARGLOX, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5Someone did. Natalie Dee did with this comic. January 24, 2005.
      Yaaayyyyyy digging old *****.
  • Vileputrid, on 04/18/2008, -29/+8Why support the troops? They get paid for their job.They do nothing for me, and every chance they get they whine and demand praise. They come on the Internet and are basically all "Service was so hard" and "I served in Iraq please thank me for my service and tell me how awesome I am".
    Who cares about the troops? It doesn't affect us. To hell with them.
    • rpebble, on 04/18/2008, -1/+9So what's your job? I assume you get paid to do it, do you get extra pay to have people talk ***** about you all the time? I know several servicemen who aren't whining or complaining or asking for praise at all...I mean, clearly armydrummer is doing more harm to his cause than good, but you really can't say that the people serving are all doing it for the wrong reasons, all doing it for some kind of silly recognition.

      Who cares about the troops? What a self-centered view of the world. I mean, going by that metric, who gives a ***** about the people rendered homeless by the tsunamis, or the people terrorized by the genocides in Africa, or anything?

      Where is your humanity man? you make me sick.
    • Acewrap, on 04/18/2008, -1/+6Please don't feed the trolls.
  • TheGooseyOne, on 04/18/2008, -38/+40Paid for by the Committee to Spit on and Defile for Absolutely No Reason a Harmless Symbol of Good Will and Faith.
    • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -6/+10wait a second...good will and faith? wtf?
      • TheGooseyOne, on 04/18/2008, -7/+3My bad, I forgot that supporting one's own country's troops in one's own country's war was actually an act of malevolence and deplorability.
        • maybach, on 04/18/2008, -1/+6Depends on the war, I suppose.
        • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4I never said anything about an "act of malevolence and deplorability", but I do question what your ideas of good will and faith are.
        • rpebble, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3First off, stop saying "one's own". That expression will only ever make you come off as a prick. Second, as wayupthere said, no one ever said anything about malevolence or deplorability, but it is becoming increasingly harder to deny that those ribbons are more of a testament to support of a political regime than the soldiers actually serving, considering the feeble amount of money actually donated to their protection as a result of those ribbon sales.
        • TheGooseyOne, on 04/18/2008, -3/+1My definition of good faith is the ability to know something is right or true without needing a constant reminder of why.
          My definition of good will is the active showing of compassion and thoughtfulness.

          In a nutshell, I view the ribbons as a sign of compassion and thought towards a massive amount of people who are actually doing trying to do the right thing.
        • solistus, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1So...

          Your definition of good faith is to stop thinking critically about your actions. This seems like precisely the sort of thing that got us into Iraq in the first place.
          Your definition of goodwill apparently considers hollow gestures as "active" showings of compassion and thoughtfulness. A ribbon on your car has no effect on the troops you hope to show compassion and simply justifies your own self satisfaction that you have "done your part."

          None of the members of the military I know (admittedly, only about half a dozen) are particularly moved by the ribbons. If someone actually takes measures to support the troops AND has a yellow ribbon, their actual measures are valuable, but the ribbon is just as empty a signifier.
    • SuperVepr308, on 04/18/2008, -8/+5Well said, Goosey.
    • lazlonger, on 04/18/2008, -6/+16A sub department of Useless Gestures in Place of Actual Critical Thinking and Hard Defensible Decisions.
      • mrraven200, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1Indeed bumper sticker politics suck, and I'll cop to it as a green with the "peaces symbol"which is also easy to slap on a Honda Civic. What is more interesting and challenging is to construct a long form argument like one that states that Pat Buchanan is closer to being a Green than Hillary Clinton as an anti interventionist small government de-centralist. Yes such thinking is harder than bumper sticker fare, but it might be the only thing that saves us from the war mongers and other military industrial centralists who are only loyal to their class not the country as whole
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -3/+7Good Will and Faith? Perhaps for some.
      But for most of the "Support the Troops" crowd it's more a matter of aggressive group-think and simple-minded belligerence. A yellow ribbon that says "I'm better than you" would be more honest.
    • ELCad, on 04/18/2008, -8/+1F idoliters and their idols. If it upsets you to see a symbol treated in a certian way then you are an idoliter.
      • clyde2801, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1I do not support using the metric system for idos. I prefer the idogallon or the idoquart.
    • emotecontrol, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Yeah, they took the "yellow ribbon" symbol, which was meant as a show of love and support for your friends and family members abroad during the World Wars, and represented the hope that they would come home alive, and turned it into a method of showing your jingoist support for ridiculous policies that seem almost designed to kill their own soldiers. I can understand how someone would equate that to spitting on and defiling it. Slapping one of those things on your gas-guzzling car is indeed defiling the symbol, and constitutes flipping the bird at the soldiers, who are stuck fighting overseas with little material support from the policy makers who put them there. This is especially true if you yourself have no friends or loved ones overseas, because it makes you look like a coward in addition, using someone else's fear for their loved ones to trumpet your jingoism. A better way to support them would be to boycott pro-war news agencies and their sponsors, and vote for anti-war candidates in the next election.
    • coyote1284, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1***** the CSDANRHSGFW!
    • orangetiki, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1I want to see the wave of thumbs up and down you got for that one. I gave you a +1
      • GhostyBoy, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Down 34, up 36 at this point. I remain neutral.
    • nakani, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Dumbass, they are made in China and none of the proceeds actually go to the troops

      *Useless Symbol of Good Will and Faith
      there, fixed it for you.
  • Portezbie, on 04/18/2008, -7/+12this is something really old stolen off toothpastefordinner
    • innocentsinner, on 04/18/2008, -2/+4NatalieDee is his girlfriend (or something like that)
  • piratearggghhh, on 04/18/2008, -5/+38All of us support the troops - we pay taxes up the wazoo to support them. It's the idiots in charge.
    • Namesbond, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2I agree
    • PabloPowell, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3It takes a lot more than forcefully paying taxes to support the troops.
      • tomjm5000, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Yeah, it takes someone to SPEND the billions appropriately...
    • tEhKewleSt, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1No, our taxes don't even come close to supporting the US or the war. The war is finaced on money we've borrowed from other countries in the form of bonds, specifically China which we owe trillions of dollars.
    • clyde2801, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1Umm....who put those idiots in charge?
  • lohphat, on 04/18/2008, -20/+76Ribbons are like praying. It makes you seem like you're doing something useful by doing nothing, but in the end you're just making yourself feel good about yourself. It's a circle-jerk.

    Prayers didn't help the 4000+ dead and 50,000+ mailed, and 100,000 innocent civilians. Squeeze your eyes closed harder! Speak in tongues!
    • taintedzodiac, on 04/18/2008, -2/+2150,000+ mailed? I guess now we know the true winners in all this: the United States Postal Service.
  • shutter54, on 04/18/2008, -5/+11Slightly OT, but to me, supporting our troops means to get them out of harms way and back home to their families. I support the TROOPS and what they and their families have to endure...not the mission. Forcing our young people to go off to a foreign land to face death isnt supporting them at all.
    • subterfuge, on 04/18/2008, -2/+5but if you put a "support the troops" magnet on your car, almost everyone will assume you support the occupation of iraq, regardless of what you actually intend it to mean. it would be better to get a magnet that just says, "i support withdrawal"
      • BryanG412, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1withdrawal, when used appropriately, can be more effective then contraceptive
    • wrestlingnrj, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4I didn't realize there was a draft and we are forcing people to join the Military. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with why we are over in Iraq but saying we are forcing young people to foreign places is plain ignorant. I'm not in the military myself, but to me it seems like anytime you are deployed you will go to face death, because it's war.
      • shutter54, on 04/18/2008, -4/+1The thing is, there are lot of folks in the military not because they want to go to Iraq, but because they dont have many other options. Assuming that everyone who join the military is eager to defend America from those evil Shiites is kinda silly. Yes, the military is completely voluntary, but just because that is true, doesnt mean we should recklessly send them into places where there is no exit strategy, nor a real definition of what it means to win. No one... understand... no one has any idea what it means to win over there.
        • NucleaRR, on 04/18/2008, -0/+3The problem is shutter that the only people who don't have a choice are people who have committed a crime and their sentance is to either join or go to jail. This doesn't happen anymore. So the people who join are to prideful to get a job working at McDonalds. Or they see the military as an opportunity to better themselves. When they sign the contract to start their path to a new life part of the payment may be their life. It's their choice and there are fully aware of it. Especially in a time of war. If they say they are not aware then they are just fooling themselves.
          • shutter54, on 04/23/2008, -0/+0You've clearly never been to a military recruitment office. Would it surprise you to know that they lie? And lies from somone in uniform, to a naive 18 year old who has no clue what to do with his or her life. These are KIDS. Not "grown, informed adults" as you seem to think. Why are so many trying to leave? Why has the government instilled policies of stop loss? its because once these kids realize the truth of what they are being forced to do, they want OUT. The mission isnt over yet, so why are so many so eager to bail?
      • emotecontrol, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1They're not too prideful to get a job at McDonalds. They live somewhere in which McDonalds is a relatively good job to have, and there is so much competition for those jobs that a lot of young people, especially, can't find a job at all. If you have the choice between rotting on welfare and joining the army, especially when it'll get you out of a ghetto neighbourhood in which you're likely to be shot anyway, the army looks like a pretty good option. The army recruiting program is very intensive and targets low-income families with teenagers who probably feel like their lives are going nowhere. They dump money into the recruitment system, and they only need to fool these kids long enough to get them to sign a document, sometimes without the kids knowing what it is they signed.

        You probably live in a pretty nice place and have a decent amount of wealth. You have made it clear that you do not understand what life is like for the segment of the population that has practically nothing. It's not a question of pride or often even choice. They sometimes see it as their only option, and the army does everything it can to give them that impression.

        Besides, lots of places have an army, and they don't send their troops off to die in an ill-conceived and probably illegal war. If you were to join the German army at the moment, the chances that you would face active duty in a combat zone are slim. But you can still serve and learn to protect your country in the case of an invasion or threat. However, if you are an American and feel that it is your duty to serve your country, you will be forced through neverending tours of combat duty in a country that was invaded largely for the money. So not only are the poor being used callously as tools for securing wealth for the elite, but so are patriots.
        • shutter54, on 04/23/2008, -0/+0Agreed 1000%. I have served, not during a time of war, but I have been in there. And the kids in there come from the poorest places in the country. They have no chance for college, and have no idea what to do with themseleves. They arent there to fight in some war that no one believes in anymore.. they are there hoping to earn a living for them and their family. After 9/11, I can understand alot of folks enlisting. it was a very motivational moment for the country. But today, who would risk their life to get in when many of them are desparately wanting out. Only those who have very little else in terms of choice.
      • coyote1284, on 04/18/2008, -0/+2Not all deployments are to war-zones, especially for the Air Force.
  • LAmandingo, on 04/18/2008, -12/+18You want to support the troops? Join the Army . . . . simple as that.
    The draft dodgers like Cheny, Ted Nuget and fat boy in Florida named Rush Blowhard make me sick. They are yellow bellied cowards that talk a big game but but cant walk the walk.
    Anyone with a yellow ribbon is simply a jerkoff trying to make themselves feel good but being a coward.
    • Namesbond, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2"yellow bellied" cmon
    • SuperVepr308, on 04/18/2008, -3/+5You are not supposed to just stop taking the Valium. Go get a refill.
      • Thumpa28, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1lol. Yeah everyone join the army! yeah! lol.
    • Nickdotnet, on 04/18/2008, -2/+2Everyone join the ***** army.....THIS....IS....SPARTAAAAAAAA!
  • casuallyevil, on 04/18/2008, -25/+7F*ck everyone that digged this. People died. Have some respect.
    • esoeso, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2You mean American people.
    • Rotzooi, on 04/18/2008, -3/+8Indeed, you're right. Lots of brown people were murdered by American mercenaries.
    • p0tent1al, on 04/18/2008, -3/+91. At what point in time are people not dying?

      2. My respect for the fallen is stronger than some *****, materialistic yellow flag which in reality means the opposite that it is intended to mean.
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -2/+7Those yellow ribbons have nothing to do with respecting the dead...and everything to do with making more of them.
      Support the troops by bringing them home, not by fellating the GOP.
  • RedHeadedFreak, on 04/18/2008, -17/+23Where's my effing oil then!? I wish this war was for oil. If there is one thing to fight a war over, it's oil. Everything you see around you? How was it made? How did it arrive at your comfortable house in your sheltered community you ungrateful, spoiled, pricks? That's right, oil. I wish the troops over there were dying for oil instead of bringing democracy to a bunch of ungrateful desert retards who are constantly pissed off just because they are rudely awakened every morning to a guy sounding off for prayer...that, and you'd hate everything to if it was constantly 1000 degrees. Those idiots don't deserve democracy or oil. But dying for oil, that's noble because you are dying for the blood of this nation. While you're just drinking up the stuff 24/7, sitting at your Mac and bitching about how America hates brown people and we're in Iraq to kill and steal from them, just remember, you wouldn't be where you are today without cheap oil. So, I salute our guys over there defending our country, because securing oil reserves is defending this country...but the only problem is, I don't think we're over there for oil, and that's a shame.
    • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -6/+2so what arguement do you hold when we run out of oil
    • shinkickedjim, on 04/18/2008, -6/+4i don't know where to begin. if you were at all sincere in what you wrote, you are the problem with this world.
      where's your oil? at the pump, jackass. if you don't like the price, i guess you don't like capitalism. and if you don't like capitalism, then you must ***** HATE america. yeah, oil's important if we want to keep up our ravenous consumerism. but you know what else is important? not basing our economy on war and treating the rest of the world like ***** just because you and george bush think it's ok. no more computers? fine. i didn't ask for this ***** to begin with. and personally, i'd much rather live a life without today's luxuries than have our country spending countless billions to blow people up for oil. if you don't know that this war is about oil yet, then you are just hopelessly stupid. it always has been. and if you're not satisfied with the price, get your ass over there and get the oil yourself.
      • peters1023, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2You know if you honestly felt that way. You'd move somewhere else. Somewhere that doesn't run on oil. Oh wait... Where is that exactly? Jackass.
        And I personally hope that my government looks out for ME and MINE. I didn't elect them to lookout for other nations of this world. I have no idea why everyone gets shocked when a nation looks out for its economic interests, even when its at others expense. Now this is NOT to say I support the way that Iraq has been handled. But lets get real here, we ARE NOT AT WAR, WE ARE PLAYING RENT-A-COP in a nation hell-bent on self destruction!
        • theholyraptor, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3pissing people off now for our own interests might just hurt our interest in the long run.
        • monroylobo, on 04/18/2008, -2/+3It is possible to maintain a good public image without being the superhero of the world.
        • squeakywindow, on 04/18/2008, -3/+2hitler was just looking out for his country....
        • wayupthere, on 04/18/2008, -1/+0do you HONESTLY think the government is going to look after YOU?! and YOUR OIL?! haha wow.
          • peters1023, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0Actually, how can you say otherwise? We are one of the MOST prosperous nations in the world. Are you trying to argue that with such a ***** government we as an oppressed people made our country the way it is despite such draw backs.... hmmmm wow is right.
    • Vet4Peace, on 04/18/2008, -2/+1Well, that was different. LOL.
      But seriously, the oil is running out....what then?
    • OnTheTake, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1I think you need to look at the profits made by oil companies since the war started. If you can't see the correlation between the two, your blind.
    • clyde2801, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Don't make this about Macs, or this could get personal.
    • AnokK, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1The oil isn't for YOU. You will not reap the benefits of a war for oil. What you will get is high priced gas, that doesn't work any better than the very same gas that was much cheaper, before the war. Did you miss the economic hitmen swarming into the Middle East, stating that Iraq had to repay the cost of war (that we started) with oil? Did you miss the fact that oil companies such as Exxon Mobile have been r