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- gummih, on 10/12/2007, -8/+190Loved the comment at the top: "When you let people do whatever they want, you get Woodstock. - When you let governments do whatever they want, you get Auschwitz."
- scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -11/+136I love this quote:
"So what do we do about terror? Simple. Get out of the superpower business. Stop trying to run the whole world. When you have troops in 130 countries, is it any wonder that so many people hate you? Bring the troops home. Use your military to defend your shores and borders and be done with it." - ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+128All your liberties are belong to U.S.
- bignate23, on 10/12/2007, -11/+78The authors of the US Constitution are spinning in their graves.
- stylerm, on 10/12/2007, -12/+70Maybe we can harness this spinning power to cure our addiction to oil, that might have been the GWB plan from the start
- thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -5/+62"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials - kodak543, on 10/12/2007, -3/+49"America will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
- Abraham Lincoln - Germanicus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+54"And the more bombs we drop, the more they will hate us."
This is the most obvious thing that many people are oblivious to. Instead, they say, they hate us because of our "way of life". - misterpony, on 10/12/2007, -8/+51I normally don't digg the political articles on digg, especially if it's not from a reputable source, but damn--this article makes a lot of sense.
- Lowry, on 10/12/2007, -9/+49It's true, if millions of muslims were dead set on being terrorist, we would have attacks on our soil every week.
The war on terror is complete and utter *****, it is a globalist created fallacy. - scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -14/+53@tidu:
So are you saying that we need the government to discard our constitution in order for us to be a superpower? Do we need to become China to continue becoming a bigger superpower? You sir are misguided. - bashar129, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44Exactly, they don't hate us because we live in a big fancy house, they hate us because we dropped bombs on their house.
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -9/+46government used to be considered as a necessary evil, now it's just considered necessary.
that perception shift is more dangerous than people realise. - LordRahl72, on 10/12/2007, -9/+43@tidu:
China will be the next Superpower and there is nothing we can do about it.
We all must live with that and move on. We can die as a supper power carefully and still live a peaceful existence. But just remember, it was our leaders that sold us to China. - neko, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38@fluffyturtle : you've never had foreign troops in your country, have you?
Think of a country you don't particularly admire. I want to be country-neutral on this one so use your imagination.
Now, imagine going through checkpoints of {country} troops every day on your way to work. Imagine having your house comandeered by {country} troops, because they're hunting down insurgents in your area. Realise that this could go on indefinitely. Anyone would get a little ticked off, at the minimum. - MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -7/+39# Americans have already accepted all ten policy planks of the Communist Manifesto as the law of the land.
# Millions of Americans don't mind one bit that we have the world's highest incarceration rate.
# The Federal Register—Uncle Sam's compendium of laws and regulations with which you and I are required to comply—runs 70,000 pages. Do you know what is in there? Do you? If you violate it, prepare to don an orange jumpsuit.
# The Internal Revenue code runs 11,000,000 words. Again: do you know what is in there?
Holy *****. - CatalystGhost, on 10/12/2007, -10/+37@franksmith
***** you. If you're so willing to give up your freedoms in the sake of a war against an idea that we will never have a hope of winning, then I think it is YOU who shall not be seen around. The War on Terror does one thing: limits freedom. The only way that we can have any hope of ever stopping ***** like this from ever happening again is to have ourselves forced into 1984. We would be continually monitored, every one of us. Continually forced to conform. Continually kept from knowing what our government does. If that's the life you're willing to have, then the terrorists have forced you to give up your freedoms, the one thing they hate, and they have one. Try telling that to the family members of 9/11, you *****. - BrokenImage, on 10/12/2007, -10/+37"We can die as a supper power..." I knew in the US we were big on eating, but I never imagined we had supper power status!
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -11/+36I really really really urge the US people to heed these words. You in the US have no idea that much of my country, the netherlands, agrees with this. Sure, culturally you are a preferred ally, but all it takes is one leftist government to change that. I can see a domino effect of european nations leaving NATO and stepping away from what the US is doing fast... because the average citizin of the netherlands and most of europe SEE what is happening within the US.
Hence I call upon the people of the US to clean up their house as soon as possible. Get rid of George W. Bush. Get rid of the military-industrial parasytical state-within-a-state. Get rid of the Neoconservatives. STOP agressively intervening in all nations across the globe even if it hurts some short-term interests. As Chavez is showing you, when you put one puppet nation in power, three recalcitrant nations take its place somewhere else. You cannot control oil, no matter how hard you try. That era is over.
I beg of the americans, get rid of G.W.Bush. Kill him, shoot him, indite, prosecute or commit him, but whatever you do, get rid of him. Don't clean halfway. Clean the whole house, with guillotines if you have to.
We Do Not Trust You Any More !!! - dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -9/+33Man does this country need to be turned around...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29the television speech from V for Vendetta covers the topic nicely
- sneakerelph, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Ah... great movie, that one.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people."
except in this case, i guess its the other way around. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27OR you could not be a racist douchebag, and stop being hellbent on killing brown people. That could work out too. There's that whole "Freedom of Religion" thing that all Americans are supposed to give their lives to protect.
- JesseJericho, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20I have always found it interesting that your average American (or Westerner, for that matter) doesn't ever seem to ask themselves who a "terrorist" is, and why they behave the way they do... Newman makes this point quite simply in this article, and it is something that everyone concerned should think about. Good find.
- scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25# Americans have already accepted all ten policy planks of the Communist Manifesto as the law of the land.
http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html - JDenigma, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26I would like to ask, what is a "reputable source" to you? Are you one who thinks a source is only reputable if it's part of the status quo media establishment, from tv for example? This is just a commentary article anyway. I'm just personally much more skeptical of the mainstream media than I am of alternative media strewn all over the Internet.
- actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22I sure hope so. And I hope that Americans actually pay attention to the candidate's platforms, instead of just saying, "Well shoot! He's a Christian just like me! Better vote for Bush, he sure does have a solid understanding of them-there issues. Yeeeeeeee haw!"
</stereotypical_bush_voter> - Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18"What exactly is so wrong with paper ballots?"
Paper ballots can be *counted,* silly! - franksmith, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Ha ha ha... you don't really believe that right?
- jefree, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18This fear culture we are living in is stupid and sad. Please vote the war supporters and freedom takers out of office. Lets be realistic and get out of the super power business. The US is getting deeper and deeper into misery and not helping to make the world a better place. Seems hopeless, but maybe voters can actually vote this idiots running our country out of office.
- CatalystGhost, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19@franksmith
I'd rather be a judgmental jerk with a well-run country than a foolish man who's country is corrupt. But then, that's just me. - puzzlesource, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18we are too proud a country to ever acknowledge the fact that we may have voted a bumbling idiot to office. This may as well be the new nazi regime, surpressing news story, passing random idiotic internet bills that make no sense except to the cash cows at the MPAA and RIAA. we also are too arrogant a country. It took an event like 9/11 to make us realize how vulnerable we truly are, it is a shame that countless lives have been lost as a result of this arrogance. Jon Stewart for president! :P
- OswaldKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20"The authors of the US Constitution are spinning in their graves."
They started spinning when we voted to allow women and African-Americans the right to vote. I suppose that was a bad thing, too. /sarcasm. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19I can see the balot now Cheney/Rumsfeld "Vote for me or I'll shoot you in the face"
- nocountries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14who kills more innocent people?
a) the US
b) Islamic terrorists
c) Israel
Who has more people detained indefinitely without the right to see a lawyer, know what the charges are, or the right to trial?
a) Israel
b) the US
c) Islamic terrorists - friend18, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20It's amazing how history repeats itself. It's sad how many people fall for the media's brainwashing that it's left vs. right. Liberal vs. conservative. These are catchy labels that have lost all meaning. As someone else called it, two sides of the same coin. People need to wake up.
http://digg.com/politics/55_back_Bush_on_Security - nordberg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16and we can rest assured that their votes are properly counted because we can trust the source code of the machine is coded right. And if there are any doubts, we'll have a paper recount.
Oh yeah... America doesn't have that.
What exactly is so wrong with paper ballots? - scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Heres a webpage with a list of Doug Newman's other essays:
http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/iwrote.html - zentro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither" - Ben Franklin.
- actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16My favorite justification for current legislation/policy: "well if you're not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about!"
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. . I wish that there were some way to get changed what needs changing. To fix what's been done to our country over the last few decades.
</somone_save_the_us> - goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13origclubsoda:
Japan. The bases are leftover from WII. Governments and people of the two countries are friendly now, but that doesn't mean that Japanese people approve of the foreign military presence in their country. Most don't. The bases do provide some security from N.Korea, but that doesn't take away from why they are still here - to protect American interests in the region.
Saudi Arabia. It's not a democracy, so the people can't give consent. Only the monarchy consents. Again, the US military is there to protect US (oil) interests. The monarchy is the perfect way to keep the rest of the country poor, to ensure that the oil gets exported instead of being used for economic development within Saudi Arabia. (My guess is there are many examples like this, where the US military is used to protect US interests via a "puppet" government.)
Cuba? Did someone consent to it or ask the US to be there? Don't think so, but not sure.
Subject to very few humanitarian or unusual emergency situations, you should remember that (1) US military bases exist to protect US interests, and (2) people don't like or want the US military in their country anymore than the US would like or want foreign military in the US. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17See... Karl Marx was right. If you want to compare the US of those laws to some totalitarian hellhole, then good luck.
If you can get past the weird "communist" regimes of the 20th century, Marx himself has many interesting things to say. - locojones, on 10/12/2007, -3/+141. Just off the top of my head: You're 4th Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures is subjugated by the Patriot Act which gives authorities the right to wiretap you without a warrant, and to enter your home for a sneak & peek search without you being present or a warrant being issued. Oh, and how about your ability to be labeled a terrorist under the extremely vague language of the Patriot Act, and the indefinite detention that follows it without access to counsel (violating your 5th and 6th Amendment right to counsel), charges being filed, or even a probable cause hearing (4th Amendment). Let's not forget that today you can even be arrested for merely buying pre-paid cellphone! Those are just a couple rights that you have lost since 9/11.
2. Well, you certainly don't require that those same items be checked into luggage under the plane, when you don't have bomb detectors that can identify liquid explosives, and which could still be detonated in the cargo hold with a short wave transmitter. Unless you want to strap naked people in their seats for the entire flight (after full rectal check to make sure there aren't any bombs in their anus), then there's not much you can do.
3. I propose that the French had it right. Chop off King George's head and march it through the streets.
4. Maybe because it has some credence? Your notion of profitability assumes only money involved. However, if the pretext was used as a power grab for the party, to enact a rights-restricting agenda, then it has turned out to be very profitable. In the business of fear, business is good under the Republicans.
5. Um, perhaps because they didn't ask to be freed? Perhaps because under Saddam's iron fist regime, all the class-strife was kept in check? Oh hey, and because we don't know jack about their civilation and society before marching in there as the great liberators. Oh yeah, and because "liberating the oppressed" was a scapegoat answer to cover up for "oooops, there really aren't WMD here, so what do we say now?" - KOSmurfy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"When you let people do whatever they want, you get Woodstock. - When you let governments do whatever they want, you get Auschwitz."
Yes, because we know how great all the Woodstocks were...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_%2799
Just in case you claim that's the exception, not the rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Music_Festival#The_death_of_Meredith_Hunter"
I think that's what he was referring to. Letting people do whatever they want leads to chaos, but letting governments do whatever they want leads to something much worse. - behindcurtain3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Brilliant article, wish I could digg this more than once.
- elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11What a great article, I love the fact that our government here in Australia wants to go down every path that the U.S takes.
- codacu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12USA goverment hasn't yet become a fascist contry, but has lately taking steps towards it. Like NSA spying on americans internet activity, FBI's warrantless phone tapping, holding terrorist suspect on very little substantial evidence and other similar things.
A goverment doesn't become fascist over a night. - Endemoniada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Of course you're not gonna notice. The FBI doesn't have to TELL you they're listening to your phonecalls anymore. That's the whole frikkin' point...
I find it sad when people in Sweden are more aware of the political situation in the USA than actual americans :) - brandonr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11And then, we can let the government own and control the power companies.. BAM... perpetual motion. Bad joke time is over.
- gameguy43, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11u know what it is. i'll get dugg down for this fast, but it's christianity in disguise running our government. we are out there "under god" fighting "evil" and "saving" people. SAVING! hello!!!!! let people ***** live in this world!!
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