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- atheinostic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24That last line was a good one, but I would have preferred it if the Senator had just gone with his previous plan and punched Bush in the face. Maybe it would've stimulated some nerve endings up there, who knows.
- washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20It's funny because on the campaign trail, people were afraid Webb wasn't Senatorial enough for the job--he was gruff, his public speaking was a bit clipped and unpolished. I hope these people who worried last year watch this video. After three short weeks in the Senate, Webb delivered nearly perfect response--one he wrote himself.
If Sen. Allen made me cringe and feel embarrassed for my fellow Virginia voters, Sen. Webb has made me feel equally proud. - Lord_oftheTrons, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20What's worse than that was during the State of the Union. Right when Bush announced his plans for reducing gas by 20% by 2017. If you watch Cheney in the background, he gets this goofy grin, then he looks over towards the Republican side and winks. I'm a Republican and it made me mad.
- hablo4u, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18My apologies to the late Senator Muskie, but I can't imagine an equal to Senator Webb's response speech this evening. It was thoughtful, sincere, strong and concise. Why isn't this guy our President???
- freff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9It looks like he was tripping over his words there. Webb is by no means a great public speaker yet. I remember watching some soundbite of his during his early on in his Senate run, and I remember thinking how wooden he seemed. But when you listened to him, you understood that he was genuine. He believed in what he was saying.
Webb is smart, and he's articulate, and he's earnest. It's weird, because he reminds me of Obama in that way. They have very different backgrounds, both politically and in life. The have very different mannerisms, and possibly even have differences in ideologies. But they both seem to be intelligent and genuine people, who are able to get that across to people. I'm liking these new Democrats. I've considered myself an independent for as long as I've been of voting age, but if this is the face of the new Democratic party, then I might sign on. - MikeDawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I was blown away when I listened to the "Opposition Speech" by Sen. Jim Webb. I was extremely impressed with the "strong" language he used. Essentially he talked about how the congress was going to hand-hold Bush into the right direction, if he doesn't go on his own.
They were essentially talking to/about Bush as if he were a child. Amazing! - aahpandasrun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Watching the State of the Union was way more entertaining: Cheney with the weird smirk on his face, Madam Speaker blinking 5 times a second, and CNN panning to senators who looked like they fell asleep.
- omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I heard the very same argument 3 years ago about halving the deficit in 5 years. Yet, here we are with the deficit having been halved in half the time.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You mean the man on the street isn't enjoying a very low unemployment rate?
- Grumps, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5A vietnam veteran whos son is serving in iraq? These are the guy who know the pain and cost of war.
@Lord_oftheTrons, we will be on Electric car in ten years time IF oil company dont preasure anyone in the white house.
Worth watching to find out what happen to the 96's eletric car.
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
DIGG THIS UP, let the world see this. America might be filled with some Bush and some lousy Senate, but really thank god that we still have Webb. - Grumps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Missed the URL, sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXMU43Qhow - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I know I'm going to get buried for this but thats the typical reation from diggers to opposing opinions....
First, this senator likes to play on the ignorance and emotions of the American people. In this speach, he states that CEO now make a good percentage more above the average worker today than they did 20 years ago. Anyone's first reaction would be outrage and utter contempt towards these people. How dare they make millions a year "running" a company playing golf all the time. But lets look at this reasonably. Why do they make that much? First of all, responsibility. An average worker is responsible for himself and himself alone. He can be easily replaced by another work that does the same thing. CEOs are responsible for the entire organization and its future. But why do they make a greater precentage more today then they did 20 years ago? The simple answer: growth. This can be split into two categories. First, government growth has provided many more hoops for companies to jump through. Since Enron, CEO's now have to sign each and every document that they release or don't release to the public. The CEO has to make sure his workers are being honest. How would you like to take responsibility of your whole financial team? Second, companies are much more expanded as they were 20 years ago mainly because of the CEO's and their chosen employee's leadership.
He made some decent points but this one just ticked me off... But i guess that politics as usual....persuading the ignorant... - converge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I was floored by his speech.
- MikeDawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2He didn't say anything about "pulling the troups out immediately". He mentioned an immediate shift to diplomacy, that would then in turn pull our troops out of Iraq.
Believe it or not, I don't think "immediate" and "diplomacy" should be used in the same sentence, as I can only assume diplomacy does not happen overnight. - Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"...if he does not, we will show him the way"
Nice choice of words there. That really sold me on Webb. - MikeDawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It was an opposition statement after the State of the Union, now, I think both the president and Sen. Webb both generalized, as they are not giving out their entire "game-plan" on public, prime-time TV.
- Brows, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7I thought the same thing. You know he wrote his own speech too. The guy should run for Prez.
- junestag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1but that's the nice thing about not having a plan (aka the super plan) - you dont need specifics...generalizations that play on people's fears do just fine.
- Grumps, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7I have to second your question on why aint this guy our president.
- Sneakernets, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I didn't see any problem with Bush's speech. At all. Someone enlighten me on what was so BAD about it. Seriously. Lay it on me.
- c0sm0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I too had the sense they we witnessed the start of a great political career here... I think about halfway through his speach it was almost as if he gained even more momentum, as if someone off camera gave him the "thumbs-ups" that he was speaking well and acting like a responsible elected offcial... or maybe we're just not use to this type of speach after the years of President Bush...
- kiph, on 04/20/2009, -2/+3Sorry, but this wasn't amazing at all to me. I think I figured out his speech agenda, though.
1. Read prompter
2. Say all problems caused by current president should be fixed with a super-plan
2a. Offer no specifics about how it should be fixed
3. Tell a story
4. Receive praise - kiph, on 04/20/2009, -2/+3dygel: Really?
Here are the bullet points I think you are talking about:
- "Not one step back from the war of international terrorism"
- "Immediate shift toward strong, regionally-based diplomacy"
- "A policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities"
- "A formula that, in short-order, would allow our combat forces to leave Iraq"
So, where are the specifics? What's the policy, what's the formula, and what is our new diplomacy strategy?
"Regarding the economic inbalance" he tells a story about how Roosevelt "spoke strongly" against some issues. Then he recalls words of Eisenhower during the Korean war, "where comes the end?"
I guess we're to assume that the war in Iraq is supposed to just be ended. Nothing new in this speech. People have been saying "end the war in Iraq" since before it even started. Whoop-ee. - Arainach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3progidy, if you read your own article you'd know that his writings were based on his real-life experiences in Vietnam.
- theGrue, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There was a smear attempt made by taking some things out of context from a book he wrote about Vietnam... Even though the book in question was on the Marines' recommended reading list.
- hsoj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It also looked like she was chewing gum :) I guess her mouth was just dry or something, but I kept getting distracted by her mouth.
- pb6859, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a shame that most people think that just because a person can speak well they would make a good president. (Reagan, Clinton?) Why not absorb what he/she stands for, track record, how they would operate before making up your mind. Or, just vote for them because they say what you want to hear.
- Grumps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A full version? Worth 9 minutes of your life to finish it.
- bogrollben, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I thought the speech was good too, but I don't agree with what he said about the economy. I am fully convinced that the economy is doing very well at this point.
- junestag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1lol, yeah that was an aggressive statement, very provocative...although sadly somewhat pretentious and exactly the kind of thing bush's critics were blaming the bush admin for early on - his do it my way or the highway attitude. course webb does have the voters on his side this time...i'm just thinking aloud here.
- junestag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1MikeDawg: good point. Bush was also generalizing in many ways. Guess i'm just so used to him doing that I didn't notice (scary).
- 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2How could the opposition speech NOT be stronger? Bush hasn't said anything that hasn't been said many times before. The issues are always the same, it's just that nothing ever seems to get done. If I heard correctly, Bush said he wants to eliminate the deficit in five years...COME ON. Aside from amassing the largest deficit in the history of this nation, he's added a significant burden with his little war games in Iraq. It ain't gonna happen.
- progidy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6When he's not writing great speeches, he's writing hot hot steamy fiction. But he doesn't need to worry, because our attention span is only a few months long.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/27/webb.allen/index.html - MikeDawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So. . .
How about a complete moron, that has been hand-holding all his life, his hand was helding going through an ivy league college, his hand was held in his "military" service. How about a president that isn't as smart as my left pinky?
Bush has neither said what I wanted to hear, nor has he acted on anything that I think deserves attention. Bush has been worthless in office. - omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Yes, but you're missing the point. One requirement for being a nationally-recognized Democrat is thinking up new ways to degrade any non-white male while making them think you're just looking out for them. For example, being pro affirmative action, saying that the minorities are being kept down "by the man", while really they're only being held down by people telling them that someone else is holding them down.
- fleischner, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq¹s cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq."
He's saying the Dems don't want to cut and run, but instead find a way to pull the troops out immediately. Um... okay. And this guy should be the President... why? - 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Cheney's grin was one of, "I can't *believe* we're getting away with all of this..."
- dygel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Actually, he DID offer specifics on how it should be fixed. There was a bullet list of them. WTFV.
- skbeville, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It seems to me like all the comments from diggers seem to simply regurgitate the hate and contempt coming from the political camps. Politicians are liars. Everyone knows this to be true, almost instinctively. Yet everyone is willing to overlook that fact when their candidate is in question. Every politician has lied, fudged, and manipulated to get into office, and to stay there... Repulicans, Democrats, and Independents alike. Why can't people be more concerned with the truth of a situation instead of the insulting the other side, as if the side that spews the best hate wins. Everyone has been down on Republicans since they have been in control for the last 6 years. I honestly hope that the Dems win big in 2008, and when they can't make the world the better place they are promising, then can call them all liars and cheats too, and then maybe people will begin to realize that no politician will solve our problems.
But I am not a politician, just a college student. I hate special interest groups, lying, and death, and will not be bribed by big business or communists. Vote for me, 2020! (when I will be eligible for President). - junestag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0lol - nice rebuttal. i esp. like the phrase 'super plan'.
- hsoj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I agree, freff. Both sides have lacked officials that seemed genuine. Before he started speaking it was said that usually the person chosen to give the response reads a token speech written by the DNC, but he wouldn't have it. He wrote his own.
I think the smartest thing the Democrats can do right now is nominate Obama. Make Webb a running mate :) We need to get away from the Hilary Clinton's and the Ted Kennedy's and the George Bush's. - bdognet, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Yeah, great speech. Raise taxes. Cut and run. See I told you so... What a dumbass. Jim Webb can't find his butt with both hands. If he is so sure that we should pull out, why hasn't he introduced a bill calling for the immediate withdrawl from Iraq? It is easy to criticize from the back bench.
- junestag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0well come on, give the guy SOME credit. Even David Brooks - conservative columnist nyt - thinks the speech as pretty powerful. you dont have to agree with his specifics...i dont even agree with the cut and run principle, i think we should stay and see it through. but still he's only been in the senate for three weeks - he might yet introduce a bill to pull us out and then he wouldn't be a hypocrite.
- neuroticus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2"he's writing hot hot steamy fiction"
So what? We are all sexual beings, to deny that is to live a lie. - junestag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0well not if it affects him directly obviously. but no individual can 'enjoy' a low unemployment rate. that's like saying i enjoy the gross domestic product. it's a meaningless statement.
- GRTWHT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Simple: it was Bush.
There are a ton of people worldwide that see anything said or done by that man as 'BAD'.
Personally, I think ALL professional politicians are not only useless and clueless, but are *dangerous* to the nation and it's peoples. - junestag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0the economy is hard to read right now. at any rate you have to agree he made a great soliliquoy (sp?) about the man on main street vs. the man on wall street (or something to that effect).
- junestag, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Senator Webb was amazing as noted. Not that Bush's speech was bad, it just paled in comparison to Webb's. I can't believe this guy has only been a senator for less than a month and already he's speaking for the entire democratic congress.
- MacBigot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1This is SPAM form one of ThinkProgress.org's editors...
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