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- espo111, on 11/04/2007, -10/+140defeating freedom of speech over there so we can have it...... wait a minute.
- Cordier, on 10/10/2007, -6/+93Freedom for everyone except for those who fight.
- leatherback, on 10/10/2007, -8/+81WOW! We have some of the finest fighting men in the world. We have the best trained military men. They do their jobs with honor and dignity. They protect our nation. Are they now second class citizens? Why can't they read what they please in their spare time?
- Insightful, on 11/04/2007, -4/+68US Military hate US soldiers for their freedom... wait a minute
- Terr01, on 10/10/2007, -5/+64But September 11th changed everything. We realized we could no longer allow our troops to... wait a minute...
- Shorties, on 10/10/2007, -5/+47Well at least we aren't brainwashing them with christian imperialist propaganda with free copies of the "Left Behind" game to all solders... wait a minute...
- hawkeye17, on 10/10/2007, -5/+45So much for 'fighting to protect our values' huh? Apparently, some of the Military brass have forgotten just what the ***** they are fighting to protect. It's sad and scary all at the same time.
- pilot3033, on 10/10/2007, -9/+27***** ron paul
- eaasness, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21Censorship in the military is nothing new! Have any of you ever watched Good Morning Vietnam? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning,_Vietnam#Plot
- lukedinan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15this is very true. when i was in the military and someone enlisted used the argument of fighting for other peoples freedom that we cannot currently possess, we were always told that we signed away our freedoms when we enlisted.
- IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18As much as I am for freedom of speech, you all have to remember that the military is not a Democracy, or a Republic, or anything resembling either. It's more along the lines of a Dictatorship.
- joebeastie, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18This is _way_ over blown. That deny message is from SmartFilter (securecomputing.com) which is a content based web filter. Works by choosing which categories that you want to block, e.g. blogs/money/dating. The problem is with the database, which is in some sort of proprietary format, which you can't look into. You don't know what is blocked in each category. The database is updated constantly and you just load them once approved. Many times SmartFilter will end up blocking something you don't want to by misplacing a website in a wrong category. In a forward deployed location many more categories will be selected since bandwidth is limited.
I hate this Administration as much as the next digg'er but I have done this for the Air Force for many years and have some first hand knowledge of how the system works. It has nothing to do with nothing. - jerry2a, on 10/10/2007, -12/+26Ron Paul is anti Pro-Choice and Anti-Gay. He, like his Republican comrades, is in favor of more tax cuts for the wealthy. I don't need people like Ron Paul "restoring" the Constitution and fighting for tax breaks for rich people.
- pintomp3, on 11/04/2007, -2/+15it's just regifting. we're giving the iraqis the freedoms we don't want anymore.
- Yukimi, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19hate to tell you people this but when you join the military you lose your constitutional rights and fall under the UCMJ...
- jonohull, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I'm sure they're not going on the internet while they're in a battle or something. They do have time to themselves, just like someone who goes home after work.
- Stonedonkey, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17My employer certainly would not limit what websites I go to based on their ***** political content. They would filter out porn and warez -- and mostly because of the security exploits you see in those areas of the Internet.
And way to frame it as a Democrat/Republican issue, by the way. - heaintheavy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16Redacted
- alohateam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I'm on a military network here in Iraq, I was able to click over and read the story on thinkprogress.org. I've been here over 6 months now, and I have to say that I've been quite pleased with the openess of Internet access over here. For instance, there are fewer websites blocked here than there are on my computer at work back home. And keep in mind, we're talking about "work" computers. On the MWR computers (those we use in our "spare" time), very little is blocked. As somebody earlier pointed out, I think when websites are blocked, it's probably more of a bandwidth issue than anything else (ie, youtube, and most picture sharing sites are also blocked). Just thought I'd share my (firsthand) perspective.
Todd - Terr01, on 11/04/2007, -1/+9You have walked a razor-thin line between success and failure, between ironic self-humor and crushing lameness.
You have failed, but do not despair, for in doing so you dared for greatness. - Monk22, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9he didn't mention anything about censoring anything. thinkprogress is crap, I'm tired of heresy being trumpeted as fact.
- jmnormand, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Military, Congress, President... they all seem to think capitalism is the true American value not freedom...
- ViktorVaughn, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Adults are allowed to read whatever they please, including stupid, baseless propaganda.
- DavidYeah, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9"Would any of you be up in arms over this if the US military was banning Fox News or the Rush Limbaugh show"
Yes, I would. - JustinPM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6No kidding man when I got into work one day, I kid you not, Smartfilter had blocked Wikipedia. And on another day Google. I don't like it, but I know it serves a purpose.
- onewingedangel9, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7When you present yourself like a conspiracy theorist, you get dugg down.
- bentman78, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9buried as hyperbole. The military censors a lot of sites from their networks including conservative ones like LGF and Michelle Malkin.
They do this like civilian companies. Saying it's to stifle ideas is non-sense. - NidStyles, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Shut up or sign up. You have no right to tell me what I can and can't read. Why? Cause I didn't join to support your freedom's. I joined for my own freedom's.
We don't need you or anyone else trying to tell us what to believe in. We are living our lives, and daily seeing this crap posted in our names, but we don't even care about you political hacks. You're worse than the propagandist's cause you actually believe we like you, and need your support.
Go Hell.
Signed a pissed off Infantryman. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10Maybe you sheeple should KNOWN what/who Think Progress truly is. It is just another George Soros funded organization, one which recently received a FEC fine of $775,000 for violating Campaign Finance regulations (http://digg.com/politics/George_Soros_Funded_Group_America_Coming_Together_Fined_775_000). Did Think Progress tell you this? I wonder why? This is just another front in a network of organizations of a few Liberal Elitists. This isn't indymedia, but biased propaganda funded by a left wing shadow party.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7121
"Think Progress is a "project" of the American Progress Action Fund (APAF), a "sister advocacy organization" of the John Podesta-led Center for American Progress (CAP) and CAP's entities such as Campus Progress. It also draws freely on the resources of the George Soros-funded Media Matters website edited by David Brock.
Think Progress is an Internet blog that "pushes back, daily," by its own account, against its conservative targets, and supports the APAF agenda: to transform "progressive ideas into policy through rapid response communications, legislative action, grassroots organizing and advocacy, and partnerships with other progressive leaders throughout the country and the world." Think Progress promotes an agenda identical to that of the left wing of the Democratic Party.
"What We're Fighting For," says the Think Progress website, are: "Social and Economic Justice," "Healthy Communities," "Global Leadership" and "A Secure America." These terms are code for an agenda that is anti-capitalist, suspicious of the American military, obsessed with multilateral restraints on U.S. power, and distributionist in domestic fiscal matters.
"What We're Fighting Against," says the Think Progress website, are: "Corrupt Establishment," "Incompetent Establishment," "Braindead Media," and "Radical Right-Wing Agenda.”
The editors and main bloggers of Think Progress are Judd Legum and Christy Harvey.
Legum is the Research Director at the Center for American Progress and Co-Editor of The Progress Report, an APAF publication of news and commentary that Legum claims is emailed each weekday to 60,000 "progressive" readers. Harvey is Director of Strategic Communications at the Center for American Progress and Co-Editor of The Progress Report. She is a regular guest on Air America Radio's The Al Franken Show.
Legum and Harvey co-authored a January 2005 article with Jonathan Baskin titled "The Death Squad Option" that suggested American troops were wantonly killing or kidnapping suspect Iraqis. Drawing a parallel with Reagan policy in El Salvador in the 1980s, the authors cited a 1993 United Nations-sponsored "truth commission" report claiming that up to "90 percent of the atrocities in the conflict" were committed by the U.S.-sponsored "death squads.” "Faced with an intractable insurgency in Iraq," wrote Legum, Harvey and Baskin, "the Pentagon is returning to its bad old ways."
CAP Fellow David Sirota, who also writes for Think Progress, worked for two years as chief spokesman for Democrats on the U.S. House Appropriations Committee. Prior to that he was spokesman for independent Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), the main American branch of the Socialist International and the founder of the Progressive Caucus in the House of Representatives." - bentman78, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6They filter all sites they deem political, even Michelle Malkin. The DoD has a security policy that requires them filter sites to stop the outbreak of viruses and to stop systems being compromised. You can access those sites in your personal time so they aren't censoring anything. They do it for protection, you can't get to you tube or yahoo either.
Use common sense and not hyperbole. - MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It's based on the true story of Adrian Cronauer. Dick.
- bentman78, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4bbzzzt wrong answer, more hyperbole and people spewing crap they no nothing about.
You're held to a higher standard, you don't loose your rights. The military blocks all sites it deems not necessary for work like civilian companies. You're supposed to be doing your job, not surfing crap on the internet all day.
Civilian companies do this all the time and there is no uproar. - patience, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Thanks. The first voice of sanity on this thread. Its amazing how a person in iraq is getting dugg down but some couch spud in Podunkville spewing nonsense gets dugg up.
- Monk22, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5dont like it, dont sign the papers.
- JoeVet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It has always been this way. The American soldier defends our freedoms....they don't participate in them!
- clark24, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think it's safe to assume our military has figured out Routing 101 and knows how to throttle the bandwidth used for web browsing.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8that's ***** *****. people shouldn't have to stop being a citizen in order to serve their country. "we know you are fighting for our rights and all, but you can't have them for yourself"
- crodragn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4As the quote goes, never ascribe to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Welcome to real life. Giving up some of your freedoms is something you have to do, or the military wouldnt be able to function correctly.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3Are the Republican neo-cons driving this agenda neo-fascist? Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, published research on fascism in which he examined the fascist regimes of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each fascist State:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarceration of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists; terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military are glamorized.
5. Rampant sexism - The government of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are intertwined - Government in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation are often the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated, or are severely restricted.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassinations of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Benito Mussolini - who knew something about fascism - had a more straightforward definition: “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
Abraham Lincoln stated, “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me, and causes me to tremble for the safety of our country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.” - Terr01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3And here's what you don't seem to get.
15% of your income when you're really poor can be the difference between starvation and mere poverty.
15% of your income when you're middle class could be the difference of sending your kids to college or not.
15% of your income when you're rich is the difference between getting one yacht or two yachts.
Anoother premise... which you may choose not to believe, but I'm telling you it's there to help you understand...
Is that the rich really do gain the most or just as much from taxes spent. Who gains most from a defensive military? Those who have the most to lose. Who gains most from common infrastructure? Those who run and own businesses. Who gains most from an offensive military? Those whose wealth has international reach. - pigfister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3the gov does not want any blogs coming back that tell of American permanent bases or the lack of support and defence for workers in iraq and the continued tight security around the oil facilities which are their priority for defending not the workers!
"In a world of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell 1984
Tor: anonymity on-line stop the internet spying on you: http://tor.eff.org/ - bentman78, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4They filter all sites they deem political, even Michelle Malkin. The DoD has a security policy that requires them filter sites to stop the outbreak of viruses and to stop systems being compromised. You can access those sites in your personal time so they aren't censoring anything. They do it for protection, you can't get to you tube or yahoo either.
Use common sense and not hyperbole. - akula696969, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Wow you may just be the most ignorant person on the Internet. They funny thing is I bet you never realize why this comment is so incredibly stupid and ironic.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Good. Free Speech is protected. Libel is not. Outright lying about everything is not necessary for the soldiers.
- sodade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Who is moronic enough to believe that any country would even consider invading us? Even if we totally shut down 100% of the military it wouldn't happen in today's world. It is all a ***** con to keep people waving their flags as our military sucks the life out of the US.
- ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Did he?
- espo111, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2what about fox, rush, and drudge's stupid, baseless propaganda?
- NidStyles, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This coming from another nitwit that's never even seen the inside of a MEPs station.
- Bamborzled, on 10/10/2007, -5/+7Just Ron Paul will save the US now, won't he? Of course you don't pay ANY attention to Kucinich or Gravel (you didn't even know the two existed, did you?) because you think you're above everybody else in knowing about Ron Paul. You're just the same deluded "sheep" you accuse non-Paul supporters of being. You are being spoon-fed "RON PAUL IS T3h GRAT" and not thinking for yourself. He's not the only guy out there who's honest; that's what the fanboys don't want you to know. Have you reviewed his policies? I have, and I choose to support Kucinich. That said, I can't vote in the elections 'cause I'm Canadian and underage. Just my 2 cents.
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