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- Stevo23, on 10/23/2009, -1/+24BREAKING: Nickleback quits music business, citing Geneva Convention prohibitions on torture.
- Awwzm, on 10/22/2009, -3/+19RATM writing a song about this would be perfect.
- digggroupie, on 10/23/2009, -8/+22They are admitting their music is torture :)
- catalysis, on 10/23/2009, -1/+13It would make much more sense to ship everyone who supports war to Afghanistan.
- anotherjack, on 10/23/2009, -1/+8Being in band like Rage Against the Machine, and then having your music used by the actual dehumanizing Machine. That must be disheartening. Orwell himself would have vomited.
- evergrim, on 10/23/2009, -0/+5I heard that they play Barney the Dinosaur's I Love You, You Love Me song over and over. Terrifying.
- jpop, on 10/23/2009, -1/+6As a musician, what's worse, your music being used to torture people, or the people who think your music is torture to listen to getting freebie performances? Where's RIAA when you need it? I mean, tick tick tick, they played the track 100 times a day, that's a billion dollars according to the RIAA lawsuits...
- depro9, on 10/23/2009, -1/+4artists know the score & always will. ;)
- newms32, on 10/23/2009, -1/+4Buried for being wrong.
- leo78, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3When playing music publicly the stores are supposed to pay for special licenses. It's usually only enforced on larger stores though. Clubs and bars are supposed to follow the same rules.
From ASCAP website-
"Public Performance or Performance Rights
A public performance is one that occurs "in a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered." A public performance also occurs when the performance is transmitted by means of any device or process (for example, via broadcast, telephone wire, or other means) to the public. In order to perform a copyrighted work publicly, the user must obtain performance rights from the copyright owner or his representative." - RilDaddy, on 10/23/2009, -0/+2Normally I would digg you down and carry on, but you're comment is especially ignorant, so I feel obligated to reply.
First, 'burning crosses' is a reference to the KKK. They're referring to racists that have unfortunately risen to positions of power in this country. Where were you during US History?
Second, this has little to do with ending 'the war' (of which you don't even seem to have a particular one in mind and obviously no real knowledge of what you're talking about), and more to do with ending cruel treatment of fellow human beings propagated by the UNITED STATES
Finally, Rage Against the Machine's message is pretty clear throughout all their music. Inform yourself and don't blindly trust your government, the media or bogus leaders... etc....
These artists are taking advantage of an opportunity to have a voice, because they have valuable opinions. RATM is especially political and they will always involve themselves in causes like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu67yo-3jfw - DPDish12, on 10/23/2009, -0/+2Normally I would digg you down and write a scathing reply to your nonsense, but RilDaddy did a bang up job so why beat a dead horse.
- strongsad, on 10/23/2009, -0/+2Ya know who also rages against torture? The people getting tortured.
- HurricaneDC, on 10/23/2009, -1/+3How the hell do you use REM to torture someone? That's like playing Chopin to keep someone nervous and on-edge.
- depro9, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk69e1Vcmvg
- mrcoderga, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1And now you SAY what they told ya
But now you SAY what they told ya
Well now you SAY what they told ya
Torture is ventriloquism
***** you, I won't SAY what you tell me - rdizzle, on 10/23/2009, -5/+6Torture is terrible, but who cares what the musicians think.
- colinmhayes, on 10/23/2009, -2/+3Dugg for BIlly Bragg.
- kartman2001, on 10/30/2009, -0/+1playing songs again and again isn't my idea of torture yeah it sucks, but not torture.
- paulvq, on 10/23/2009, -1/+2Time after time, it has been proven that torture simply does not work. People will say whatever the hell you want to get it to stop.
- mrcoderga, on 10/27/2009, -0/+1Shhhhh.....
Dirty secret - inactive, on 10/23/2009, -1/+2This would make a great Onion Radio bit.
- anotherjack, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1You could do it with any song, so long as it's on repeat, and it's too loud and it never stops playing.
- iriemember, on 10/23/2009, -1/+2Even if your claim that islamo-fascists are "sub humans" (hint: it isn't), that would still make them sentient-non-human animals, and thus maintain the ability to be tortured.
- catalysis, on 10/23/2009, -1/+2I don't support the war. Why would I fight in it?
- kartman2001, on 10/30/2009, -0/+1playing songs again and again isn't my idea of torture yeah it sucks, but not torture.
- FaithclubDotNet, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1The military has been a big fan of the psychological effects of rock since they blasted some Aerosmith at the American Vatican to get Manuel Noriega out.
- astrotrain, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1Hours of Britney Spears or Mariah Canarey would be very torturous.
- frofisrael, on 10/23/2009, -2/+3At least they're willing to admit that listening to their pandemonium is torture.
- astrotrain, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1Its "Westernized" culture... these terrorists are all against Westernized culture...(clothing, music, etc).
Its believed to be the work of their version of The Devil... so they run away from it. Only to believe in their God, who wants them to kill as many Americans so they can be placed into their heaven with all the virgins... (aka more Americans they kill = More Virgins they get). - billraydrums, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1I think if they played the omm-pah stuff my neighbors play, they would be thoroughly bedeviled. Hell, I even make up things to confess to after about 3 hrs of it....
- funkedup, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1and then it would be used for torture!
- funkedup, on 10/23/2009, -1/+1You obviously haven't listened to REM.
- phrawgh, on 10/23/2009, -2/+2Why don't you sign up, citizen.
- astrotrain, on 10/23/2009, -1/+1But I am sure that the music was purchased legally through RIAA channels (iTunes, etc).
Besides, this isn't the first time we use Rock N Roll to torture Terrorists... remember in Desert Storm we blared Twisted Sister at the terrorists... that sent them running for the hills.. - Dinsdale77, on 10/23/2009, -3/+3I'm against torture, but it makes sense that they TURNED THAT ***** UP!!
- mrcoderga, on 10/27/2009, -1/+1torture?
let it go?
??? - colinmhayes, on 10/23/2009, -3/+3easy: find someone with a mortal fear of using the Mandolin as the lead instrument in a song.
- astrotrain, on 10/23/2009, -2/+1You mean the terrorists didn't get down with the sickness?
They should have used the Richard Cheese version, to really give it to them.. and I don't think Cheese would have minded at all if his music was used to torture these folks who caused havoc on American soil. - halsey7, on 10/23/2009, -6/+5Musicians have no right to control the purpose their music is used for after its release. If the military obtained the music legally, who cares? Its the same with politicians using campaign songs without the express written permission of the band. The concept that you need the band's permission to play music to a group of people is ridiculous. How is that different than house parties and satellite radio being played in stores? What if a store a band opposed played their music?
The fact that this even made the news is amazing. The issue of music as torture is up for debate, but anyone who thinks the bands have any say in this are wrong. - LackyB, on 10/23/2009, -1/+0I spent at least an entire minute trying to figuring out how this headline was somehow about RATM when I saw the headline. But I'm kinda stoned, so it might be just me.
- kartman2001, on 10/23/2009, -2/+1*****, let it go.
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -1/+0Yeah man! Fight the power! You know what's going on in this world. You have a pristine view. You understand. You're a humanitarian you beautiful human being.
- stevebee, on 10/23/2009, -5/+3Oh snap! Best comment I've seen today.
- jsffive, on 10/23/2009, -3/+1Apparently, "Some of those who work forces, are the same who burn crosses"...
But you know, it occurs to me that, some of those who buy ice cream... probably also burn crosses.
As a matter of fact, some of those who play ping pong... probably also burn crosses.
Do you think that some of those who shave their armpits... also burn crosses?
And if I were stop doing what "they" tell me, am I not replacing that with doing what Rage Against the Machine is telling me?
I guess what I'm really saying is that I just don't get Rage Against the Machine lyrics...
I think the argument is wrong. Stop making pedantic arguments against the minutia of the war... END THE ***** WAR... and every other kernel that grows from the war will wither and die. - inactive, on 10/23/2009, -4/+1calling having to listen to loud music torutre makes a mockery of everyone who had to endure REAL torture.
Being annoyed is NOT torture. - NotAChickenHawk, on 10/23/2009, -6/+3Their music had to be played at Gitmo for the artists to recognize its torture to listen to? Hell, I figured that out as soon as I discovered Internet radio and learned the music that's constantly shoved down our throats on over the air radio is for the most part crap.
- norman619, on 10/23/2009, -5/+1Who gives a damn what the musicians think? Maybe they are offended that their music is so bad the military found it useful in coercing people into spilling their guts. I know the being forced to listen to the music my sisters were into when we were kids qualified as torture. :-)
- 2balls1cup, on 10/23/2009, -7/+2I agree, music isn't effective enough no matter how bad it is. Waterboarding, beatings, starvation etc. are far more effective ways to get intelligence from terrorist scum.
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