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- Lumbage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Sooperdooper, I agree with you. The way I read it, Tony Snow is saying that the public is always searching for some sort of racial subtext, when in reality there is often nothing there.
The headline of this story is TOTALLY out of context. Tony snow is not saying that "Black Candidates Will Always Try To Play The Race Card" He is saying that people often ASSUME that "Black Candidates Will Always Try To Play The Race Card."
As much as I don't like the GOP, there is nothing wrong with what he said.
At least that's the way i interpret it.
Agree? Disagree? - sooperdooper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15So what Tony Snow is really saying is (fta) that people will try to attribute things having to do with black politicians to "the race card." That's what I got from it, at least.
- adb22791, on 10/12/2007, -15/+25Um, whatever you say, but that ad was aimed at the Democratic senator because of his race. While racial slur was probably not the most appropriate way to put it, it can still be considered racism, and a racial slur is a type of racism.
Thanks, and have a nice day. - thecheat1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You nailed it. That's exactly what was going on.
Tony Snow was dead on with his response. - Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Inaccurate headline. Horrible proof reading.
Once again digg clutters my desktop with substandard, jerk kneed, activist driven horse *****. - magebomb11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10it may be his name that bothers you.
what bothers me is the sudden Barack craze.
it's like harry potter.
i just dont trust it. - adb22791, on 10/12/2007, -26/+34You know, just play the race card and then send them back to go do whatever those black hoodlums do. Oh wait, did I just say that out loud?
I can't believe that our government is shrugging off an attack ad that makes racial slurs towards another candidate saying it's "playing the race card". And we're going around the world being the "World Police" telling other people how to run their countries. Maybe we should get ours straight first. - ToxicDose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I agree. He just says that others will accuse minorities of pulling the race card during campaigns.
The title of this Digg is incorrect. It is not the Black Candidates that are pulling the race card, it is the commentaries that make such allegations. - Popcan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8They were hitting on the fact that he goes to Playboy parties... I know, who cares. But that is the truth, this racial spin is just that, spin.
- Popcan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12"big black macaca "
LOL, at least get your racial slurs straight.
"They wouldn't run it for a white guy."
Why are you so sure about that? If they were trying to make him look like a womanizer (which is what they were going for), yes, i think they would run it. - LittlemanTAMU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7[quote]So really Tony Snow is wrong, I don't think Ford himself tried to play the "race card". The race card was brought into play mostly by the media.[/quote]
I think that was Snow's point, at least that's how I took his comments. The ad wasn't racist but the media has tried to make something of nothing just because it's a black candidate. - mykrowsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I also agree. Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? The race card isn't being played by any candidate, it's being played by the media, and seems to be misconstrued by everyone who reads that article.
- magebomb11, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10 Wartyboskfapped- never seen an ad of clinton womanizing? what are you even talking about?
as far as the deliberate obtuseness comment, we're not obtuse.
we just think that it's 2006 and a black man and white woman don't have to be turned into a 'racist' situation. - killinger777, on 10/12/2007, -20/+26abd, which part of that ad was racist? The white woman saying "call me" to a black man? That is racism?
- killinger777, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Harold Ford Jr was on Hannity's radio show today. Ford himself said he did not think the ad contained anything racial, but instead insinuated he was a womanizer (the impression most sane people got from the ad). This was clearly a case of over-zealous people looking for racism where it was not present.
- aywwts4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6May not be racist, but god thats a tasteless advertisement all around.
- LittlemanTAMU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@Wartyboskfapped
It's about the accusation of Ford being a "playboy". From http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=2569351&page=1, opponents call him, "churchgoer by day and playboy by night". Try understanding the situation instead of looking for more reasons to hate Republicans. If you think the ad's racist, fine, but I think it's ridiculous to impose the restriction on an ad of that type to use the same "color" people so it doesn't seem racist. To me, requirement like that seems even more racist. It just reinforces the idea that different races should be treated differently - nmoline, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What he is saying is everytime there is a black candidate, and we saw this earlier on digg with the Harold Ford Radio add that supposedly had "Jungle Drums" in the background, the media thinks everything is racist. How is it racist to have a white woman trying to make a date with Harold Ford? What the ad is referring to is Ford going to a Playboy Superbowl Party. There is nothing racist about this in a society where interracial couples are the same as single race couples.
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4More "selective editing" of sound bites by Think Progress, they are masters of propaganda. Notice how the audio clip doesn't allow Snow to complete his thought before the clip ends.
And Snow is right, BTW... the left will play the race card as often as possible. Remember the 2000 race? Gore stood up in a black church (Separation of church and state? Only when it's convenient!) and told them that George W. Bush wanted to turn back the clock to a time in America when a black man was considered to be two-thirds of a white man in terms of rights. Bush has never made any such comment, and in fact, Bush was the first president to appoint African-Americans to cabinet-level positions. - Crizack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I agree with you and I pretty much hate Tony Snow after the whole "we could only find he said stay the course 8 times."
- stateq2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5wow...nobody posted the original ad yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1smE1Es-8QA
a low blow - someguyouknow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Obama pulled the race card?
- magebomb11, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15killinger777 being modded down for asking a legitimate question.
what is wrong with you people?
is this youthful idealism gone wrong? why are you anti-question? do you not have an answer?
imagine if the woman in the commercial was black.
what would we be saying about the ad, then? - pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3im not responding to this persons comments, specifically, but the fact there is a name for the acting as "nick-namey" as "race card" is saying something.
- rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3anyone have a link to the commercial mentioned?
- killinger777, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7LOL. "Canada can take care of North Korea. They're not busy"
That's quality stuff. - LastVisibleDog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5So ?
ThinkProgress just likes to twist statements and apply innuendo - standard propaganda.
Why don't the Digg Democrat Children (DDC) just write a script that posts on Digg each and every turd that drops from ThinkProgress...
Such nonsense.
The point was - race becomes an issue at some point for any candidate that is a minority
Get a clue DDC's - Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can see how demanding intellectual honesty, accuracy, facts and reliable sources on every article submitted would be a pain in the ass to the average activist.
I think it's time for everyone to demand these things in political discussions.
Like magebomb11 says, "see you tomorrow." - EComni, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Okay, show of hands: Who actually *watched* the video?
I'm black, I took a little offense at Snow's "hug the tar baby" comment (though not that much to really care), and there is NOTHING racist about what he said.
He's saying (damn-near verbatim, I might add), that whenever one side says something a little negative about a black candidate, people will try to play the race card. Not specifically the black candidate, not specifically democrats, but overly race-sensitive people.
And, oddly enough and much to my chagrin, he's right. Way to go.
Just the sort of things politics needs. Hot-headed reaction fueled by blind emotion and zero fact. Doesn't matter which side does it; it's wrong.
The headline is either deliberately misleading or gleefully stupid. Buried either way. - redavni, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Barack was quoted as saying, "Of course I inhaled, that was the point."
That kind of honesty is enough for me :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I generally don't get racial slurs 'right' because, you know, I don't use 'em & don't hang out with people who do.
So is there evidence this guy is a womaniser? Is that even relevant? - stateq2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4btw....I don't think there's anything racial about it
- magebomb11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3lol internet. see you tomorrow, koose!
- spankaccount, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's important to note that thinkprogress is a George Soros funded left wing media-blitz organization... for the record.
- magebomb11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3full ad
http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/10/24/ford_camp_desperate/ - angrychimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, there's nothing racist about the ad. The advert is extremely defamatory and I'd be mad as hell if it was targetting me, but it's definitely not racist. And it seems to me that Tony Snow doesn't think it's racist either.
- Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm sorry, I meant to say "rabid activist."
I certainly meant no disrespect to activists in general. - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1edit
- cwoolf34, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's so racist to say that someone is playing the race card, jeeze! Blacks have gone too far, admit it. They have found a huge loophole in modern day society, and are no question using it for their advantage. It's always going to be a battle of the races to some aspect, but we should continue to try to limit the obviousness. It's natural, and will never go away. Whether you're a Democrat or Republican or whatever else, you can't deny mother nature.
- bdrydyk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm a democrat and I completely agree with you. However I'm a little worried that the white house press secretary is too dense to see that such a comment might be misunderstood.
- killinger777, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Retarded ***** Eater?
- magebomb11, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3haha, the ad makes me wish i was in a class on sensationalist political ads.
he'll let me pay taxes after i'm dead.
lol.
i wish someone wouldve said "Harold Ford does not care about black people" - gravytop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1First, the headline is inaccurate. According to the quote given, Tony Snow didn't say that black candidates will play the race card. He said there is always an attempt "when you have got an African-American candidate to try to attribute something to the race card." Often the people making the claims of racism are not the candidates themselves, but white activists. I don't believe that Ford is on record saying that the relevant ad is racist. If I'm wrong, then I am happy to be corrected, but my point still stands.
Second, the race card is too easy to play. Had the woman in the ad been black, the criticism would have been that the ad depicts African-American women as being promiscuous.
Having said all that, the ad is cheesy and dumb and no substitute for real political discourse, and Ford's attendance at a Playboy part is a complete non-issue. - LastVisibleDog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 oops
- missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What did I miss, exactly? I watched the whole ad, and to be honest, I couldn't find a single racist thing about it. I wanted to slap the bastard who came up with "terrorists need their privacy!", but that's another story.
Is a white woman coming on to a black man racist now?
And what was Snow trying to say, anyway? Them boys what work with the White House don't get no English education, do they? - ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually, Tony Snow makes sense. He said that, despite the urge to claim all black candidates are playing the race card, there's no place in the country that this is not NOT playing on racial sensibilities.
So he...uh...took the liberal stance. Weird. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Obama admits that he struggled with crack addiction in his book. Once a crack addict always a crack addict.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That's definitely not a very 1337 comment there, "Einstein".
- jackmaninov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, a stab at Canada thrown in there. How does that even make sense?
- Mu99ins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Using the adjective "black" is playing the race card.
Why not just call him a candidate? It's the press
who's sure to push the race button. -
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