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- Factionrider, on 12/05/2007, -19/+109Buried for saying marijuana is addictive.
- sullyj, on 12/05/2007, -2/+84My carpet is melting.
- Chazx, on 12/05/2007, -6/+65The government made LSD illegal otherwise they wouldn't be able to control our brains. Reaaaaeallllllyyy.
- Alexa42, on 12/05/2007, -3/+60It's more likely that it was your friend's inability to deal with life that caused him to drop out. The drugs were just a side effect. If they weren't available he would have found some other way to screw up. At any rate, what does this have to do with LSD specifically?
- MarkCiccone, on 12/05/2007, -34/+83LSD is the antithesis of mind control; the CIA discovered this fact and has done everything to keep it top-secret. The government is terrified of LSD becoming available to the masses. People just might think independently, and ignore the government’s propaganda. The last thing the government wants is the people unbinding themselves from their shackles and taking control of their own lives.
Amen. Turn on tune in drop out! - inactive, on 12/05/2007, -8/+52MarkCiccone, you have to realize LSD is not REQUIRED to not absorb propaganda like a sheep.
- Philodox, on 12/05/2007, -3/+43I did my fair share of acid when I was a teenager, and none of my trips did I ever "ignore the government's propaganda". I was too busy talking nonsense and looking at all the pretty colours. Somebody else mentioned that you don't need mind altering chemicals to see through lies.
- 5xSTUN, on 12/05/2007, -1/+37I'd bury this story if the breathing walls of my room-cocoon weren't telling me that I've won the seizure grapefruit.
- doctechnical, on 12/05/2007, -2/+35Lick this comment, you may be one of the lucky 25.
- MattB123, on 12/05/2007, -0/+32Interesting article, but not a lot of references cited to back these conclusions.
Personally, I think LSD is great, and while I haven't done it in many years, it certainly made me look at the world differently. If you consider yourself a free thinker (or would like to) and you don't have any nagging mental issues (low self esteem, unresolved conflicts, guilt, etc) then I highly recommend giving it a try in a friendly and safe environment (I prefer the desert).
It brings subconscious thoughts to the surface, which can be both enlightening and/or horrifying depending on what is lurking in there. It's always an eye opener! - inactive, on 12/05/2007, -8/+39It's a lot more complicated than that.
Basically, drugs like LSD make you realize that all the thought processes you have already built up and take for granted are in fact only learned and not 'truth'. This causes you to take a step back and analyze what you 'think for granted' and shine a critical eye on it. ***** pink dragons and dancing with fairies only happens in my experience to idiots or people who do retarded doses (accidental or otherwise). I personally have never seen much at all except distortion.
The government is already established, and it protects itself naturally like any other organism. That's why it's called 'the establishment'. They found out what LSD did, and they banned it. Simple.
There was a video of US Soldiers on it on the net where they try to do a mission on it and end up just breaking down laughing and *****. - clearzen, on 12/05/2007, -0/+30Look I've eaten my share of acid, I loved it, I had several revelations. That being said, lsd should *not* be given to everyone. But I guess that should be up to personal discretion not governmental oversight.
- BobOrleans, on 12/05/2007, -0/+29Acid can be a great drug if taken in small doses while being in the right set and setting. The only problem with that is that you never know how high the dose is due to it's illegality.
- baalzebub, on 12/05/2007, -1/+29no no no, hes outside, looking in...
- Otto, on 12/05/2007, -5/+32Everybody has the right to ***** up their lives in the way they see fit. You can try to talk them out of it, but that's all that any reasonable person should try to do.
- spyrochaete, on 12/05/2007, -2/+27Yet guns, sugar, and boy bands remain legal.
- doctechnical, on 12/05/2007, -3/+28"That means it was illegal before it was invented."
That's interesting, Wiki says it was invented in 1938, but not banned in the US until 1971, - raoulduke87, on 12/05/2007, -2/+27LSD is a great substance. It is not for everyone, but those who can handle it stand to gain a lot from the experience. By letting one's self relax, allowing the ego and self-effacing nature to fall away, people can explore thoughts, feelings and revelations in an unincumbered manner. But the problem is that people who will be moderate in their intake of such a substance are few and far between. Too many people take it to get "***** up" and don't respect it for what it is. It's why drug laws exist, because the government feels that the masses are to childish and excessive and can't curb their desires. Now, while that may be true, why regulate LSD? Because people take it and think they can fly? ***** that, it's natural selection. Let 'em fly and when they hit the ground, it'll be a lesson to them. But because people, Americans in particular, are such beasts of excess, we will never be able to be trusted with such a strange, beautiful and potentially dangerous substance.
- hugoguzman, on 12/05/2007, -2/+25I actually thought that one of the links in this post, to a wikipedia entry on Nobel Prize winner Kary Mullis, was even more insightful. And more objective and journalistic in nature: http://www.digg.com/odd_stuff/Nobel_Prize_winner_a ...
- inactive, on 12/05/2007, -2/+25Is LSD addictive?
LSD does not produce compulsive drug-seeking behavior. Addiction to hallucinogens is rare, although poly-drug addicts (people who are addicted to several drugs) frequently abuse hallucinogens as well. Because LSD users develop extreme tolerance to LSD rapidly, the drug cannot be abused for more than a few consecutive days, preventing the kind of physical and psychological dependence associated with other drugs. This tolerance usually goes away after a week or so of abstinence from the drug.
from http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Servi ... - alcoholanon, on 12/05/2007, -1/+23LSD was legal for both personal use and research until late 1969.
Having been an advocate of the substance for my personal use however, doesn't mean that I can blame the government for banning it.
LSD is one of the rare cases where the public really DID abuse the substance and really DID treat it in the most profance, contemptible manner.
That said, it is shameful that one cannot obtain special licensure to work with such substance. - juniorb, on 12/05/2007, -6/+28Marijuana is psychologically addictive. I'll drag four guys off the couch who can prove it.
- Kwashiorkor, on 12/05/2007, -15/+35And you didn't stop or couldn't help him? Or were you waiting on the government to do that?
- enlightenedby42, on 12/05/2007, -0/+20Small doses and right setting? Haven't you ever read Hunter S. Thompson?
"If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing right." - spyrochaete, on 12/05/2007, -5/+25LSD and other substances didn't stop me from graduating college, nor graduating with high honours in post-grad. I argue that they helped me immensely, and especially LSD.
- Icupnimpn2, on 12/05/2007, -4/+23The government doesn't let you take LSD because they don't WANT you to find the bugs crawling under your skin. They're RUNNING SCARED that you will shake off the establishment and realize how cool your carpet really is, and what it has to say to you.
- VenDrake, on 12/05/2007, -0/+19yes.
- RoboB0b, on 12/05/2007, -0/+19Is there anything that's not psychologically addictive? I know plenty of people addicted to Digg and WoW.
- cardyology, on 12/05/2007, -5/+22I love Alex Grey's art. Its amazing. Bit cheesey "open the doors of perception" stuff...but great nonetheless. I am also a Tool fan.
- doctechnical, on 12/05/2007, -0/+17"The trunk of the car looked like a mobile police narcotics lab. We had two bags of grass, seventy - five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high - powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi - colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls."
We are, after all, professionals. - mrlyons, on 12/05/2007, -2/+18I think this is a bit of a stretch. Hoffman himself said that LSD was a "problem." His problem child. He didn't approve of most of the widespread use it got in the 60's and 70's because it was used irresponsibly. LSD, and any other psychedelic demands respect. There is a lot of preparation that needs to be done if you're going to take a drug like this because you can become a danger to yourself, and even worse others around you.
- ChaosMotor, on 12/05/2007, -3/+19No, but it's helped turn lots of sheep into thinkers.
- AegisC, on 12/05/2007, -2/+17That's exactly the sort of thinking that the government fears. :P
- nallelcm, on 12/05/2007, -0/+15Salvia divinorum is psychoactive, and it's not illegal in Canada (and most states). Just saying is all.
- Alexa42, on 12/05/2007, -1/+16Obviously you have no experience with the stuff.
Besides, how many deaths are caused by alcohol and tobacco? Yet strangely they are still legal...
Dumbasses will do dumb ***** no matter how hard you try to protect them from themselves. - catalysis, on 12/05/2007, -1/+14The irony here is that nobody cut their hand off on LSD, you are just parroting what you were told.
- GMorgan, on 12/05/2007, -4/+17That's his problem. Fail to see how it affects my right to do what I wish. Laws aren't about protecting the weak from themselves. It's about protecting one person from another.
That may be harsh but it is fair. - juniorb, on 12/05/2007, -2/+15MKULTRA was a real government project. They make tinfoil blindfolds for people like you.
- insllvn, on 12/05/2007, -1/+14Sure does help though...
- Bwackv, on 12/05/2007, -9/+21Dugg because that articles blends a perfect amount of information with a serious dose of paranoia. Need things like that.
- JiMiThInG, on 12/05/2007, -1/+12I got pretty wrapped up in drugs for a few years in my youth. Nearly all of them had a bad effect on my life in the long run. However LSD was something different. As someone else said if you see dancing elves dressed in your mothers underpants fighting dragons with Hitlers head, your just a nut job to begin with. I did some pretty heavy doses of LSD and it usually just changed the way ordinary things looked. Magnified the beauty of nature, made the ordinary extra ordinary. There where a few times at a local nature reserve I may or may not have seen deer though :) Anyway.. It really did change my outlook on the world in a positive way. Taking it in the right setting, with the right people, in the right state of mind is pretty close to a real spiritual experience. I am a different and better person today because of some of those LSD trips I took in my youth.
- spiritditch, on 12/05/2007, -0/+11Agreed. US culture has a "party on dude" attitude with drugs. When you look back at similar drugs used by indigenous people and native Americans, you can see the respect they had for them. So much respect, in fact, that there was even a need in many societies for a shaman, with one of his jobs being a spiritual guide and advisor for these intense journeys.
- juniorb, on 12/05/2007, -1/+12"Don't trust that website, trust this one." Reliance on internet sources for the win.
- Protoss, on 12/05/2007, -3/+14He got addicted to LSD and dropped out? Or was this some other drug?
- disas, on 12/05/2007, -2/+13OH MAH GAWUD!
Thats....thats like the most gorgeous refrigerator i've.... ever laid my eyes....on. its like... oh man. its so shiny. WoooOOOOaaaAAAhhhh - RobsaysHello, on 12/05/2007, -1/+12LSD good. Oppressive police state engaged in drug war against citizens bad.
- Alexa42, on 12/05/2007, -0/+11The things you see on LSD are real in one's "inner space."
It is an excellent tool for exploring one's own mind...at least for those that are up to it.
Some people can't handle it, and some people are irresponsible, but that is true across the board.
If you haven't noticed it seems that the powers that be are dead set on keeping the public from any kind of introspection and critical thought. If you look at the situation objectively then you can see why people feel this way. Perhaps you are too far gone :( - NewGTGuy, on 12/05/2007, -1/+12I noticed you mentioned booze. That more than anything would cause someone to drop out. Yet it's LSD which is illegal.
- Bing11, on 12/05/2007, -1/+12The article was a bit too... paranoid. But it interesting to note that a lot of the prescription drugs out there have very similar chemical structure to a lot of the banned substances. Lots of the ADHD medication, especially, since it's basically just used to keep "over-active" kids still. A nice way of saying "I'm drugging/sedating my child so I can control him" has become "I'm giving my child medicine so he can focus."
- camg188, on 12/05/2007, -1/+11I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
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