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The Ordinary Face of Everyday Evil - Will Grigg
freedominourtime.blogspot.com — Most of the harm in the world is done by good people, and not by accident, lapse, or omission. It is the result of their deliberate actions, long persevered in, which they hold to be motivated by high ideals toward virtuous ends … [I]n periods when millions are slaughtered, when torture is practiced, starvation enforced, oppression made a policy....
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- avengingturnip, on 05/12/2008, -1/+19"Experts say many of those professionals [working with FLDS mothers and children] may be suffering from secondary traumatic stress, a condition that affects people working with victims of trauma,"
It's called guilt, guys. And yes, these people are probably suffering from plenty of that assuming they still have a conscience. - bohemianowl, on 05/12/2008, -1/+19I dated a social worker once, she was such a psychotic wreck from her job she was self medicating because of her job stress and guilt.
- cwabray, on 05/12/2008, -0/+16lol.
When I evaluate potential dating prospects, as soon as I read or hear 'I want to be a social worker!' (which is becoming increasingly common within the mindset of young Christian women, unfortunately) I scratch them off my list and move right on. Becoming a social worker for a woman is the equivalent of becoming a soldier for a man: these young people are duped into thinking they are doing 'good', when in reality all they are doing is promoting evil on behalf of the state.- mystcnurse, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10It isn't the social workers, it is the entire system. I think a lot of times, the social workers are truly attempting to do good. I've seen SERIOUS child abuse, where the kids SHOULD be removed. But then you have law enforcement, the CHILD ADVOCACY (read, power trippin lunatics) agencies, and worst of all, the family kangaroo courts... and you have a nightmare. There is no litmus test for social workers. I've seen a few, granted, very few, very reasonable ones. And then there are the rest. I think your term "duped" applies readily. People who go into any of these fields should not be "dupable". And @bohemianowl - you probably don't know for sure, but, what is the possibility that she was already a psychotic wreck before she even started her job??? Maybe that's what attracted her to it? I could be wrong.
- caferrell, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13We have a system that is set up to protect the extremely exceptional case. One child in ten thousand or so may be severely maltreated by his or her parents, and for that extremely rare case we have given the State the power to take anyone's chldren away.
It is true with most of the laws that erode our freedom. These laws are always set up for the exceptional case with the understanding that the government will not abuse the laws, but they are applied to common cases making our civil rights meaningless.- mystcnurse, on 05/13/2008, -0/+9I don't know. I used to do child abuse exams - and I was very conservative - If there was not ABSOLUTE proof, photographic or DNA evidence, I would say "no evidence". I spent a lot of time teaching parents coping mechanisms. Better discipline methods. Tried to keep them out of the system, taught them what to say, and how to get thru it as peacefully as possible while maintaining control of their lives, and their kids. I HATED the system. I did not participate in it, other than collecting evidence. OR NOT collecting evidence and going to court and saying "THERE IS NOTHING HERE". But, I did see a 14 month old raped baby girl, two boys who were severely beaten with cords, a child who was tied to a chair for over 24 hours and beaten for "stealing food" from the refridgerator, a child who was burned five times on her abdomen with a curling iron for "not going to sleep", a five year old little boy who had anal and penile injuries from a man who was... none the less, a children's counselor.... in a psych hospital, and was allowed to run, with the wife and his step kid... I saw innocents who couldn't afford a lawyer - convicted, I saw most likely guilty people walk. I saw a girl who was raped since age 5 who was 14 and taken for an abortion - still positive pregnancy test, by her step dad (found old records of her previous investigation, which means she completely slipped thru the cracks for years, even tho she stated, at five, that he was having sex with her) . I saw about 3500 cases. About 500 were for real. It isn't ONE child in ten thousand. But our system is *****. It doesn't protect those it needs to. And it does erode freedom. I could write a book. Our government DOES abuse the laws. It is about people getting their "names out there". Solicitor's getting voted in, social workers getting promotions. Researchers getting grant money. And within it, there are a few, just a few, who are truly good people. I have met a few good cops, a few good social workers and a few good advocates who I don't think would sell out for anything. But then there are the rest. Most kids who are "maltreated" are victims of a family member, yet our government spent millions on this "stranger danger" bs campaign. We tell kids not to do drugs, then we drug the ***** out of them with prescription drugs. You know what, you might be right about the one in 10,000 being severely maltreated. Doesn't matter how many. Those who are should be protected. But nobody should be put through the system of kangaroo courts that we have, especially innocent people. And honestly, after my experience, I, female tho I am, have become a HUGE advocate for father's rights. Okay. Not disagreeing. Just want you to know that it does happen and no kid should have to go thru what I saw. No innocent adult either.
- caferrell, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5@mystcnurse, you not only could write a book, you should write a book. Thank you very much for your comments.
- caferrell, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13We have a system that is set up to protect the extremely exceptional case. One child in ten thousand or so may be severely maltreated by his or her parents, and for that extremely rare case we have given the State the power to take anyone's chldren away.
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Wow, I never had that insight into the effects of social workers.
"Promoting evil on behalf of the state."
I am gonna mull over that one for a few weeks.
- mystcnurse, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10It isn't the social workers, it is the entire system. I think a lot of times, the social workers are truly attempting to do good. I've seen SERIOUS child abuse, where the kids SHOULD be removed. But then you have law enforcement, the CHILD ADVOCACY (read, power trippin lunatics) agencies, and worst of all, the family kangaroo courts... and you have a nightmare. There is no litmus test for social workers. I've seen a few, granted, very few, very reasonable ones. And then there are the rest. I think your term "duped" applies readily. People who go into any of these fields should not be "dupable". And @bohemianowl - you probably don't know for sure, but, what is the possibility that she was already a psychotic wreck before she even started her job??? Maybe that's what attracted her to it? I could be wrong.
- cwabray, on 05/12/2008, -0/+16lol.
- ltomson, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Those evil bitches!
- mystcnurse, on 05/13/2008, -0/+11Great article. For more info read People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck. I think it was Einstein who said: "the world is a very dangerous place. Not because of those who are evil, but because of those who stand by and do nothing".
- caferrell, on 05/13/2008, -1/+16Where are we living? How have we allowed this to happen to the land of the free?
I am living in Orwell and Huxley's nightmare. It has become real. - Bronnster, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.”
- Cicero, 42 B.C.
Copy/paste comment from article. Very on Point in relation to most of the events currently taking place in our Republic. Thank you to the original poster(s) and commenter 'evul'. - MrColdheart, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Yeah I do have mixed feelings about it but I live in Pennsylvania "people hold on to old values up here" And we have the Amish people, the Amish males once they reach a mature age they have the choice of leaving the Amish community, the Amish girls don't have that choice. If they gave the females the choice to leave, their way of life would disappear. The FLDS camp way of life was modeled after the Amish.
- freemenow, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4All we need to do is to stop voting for Republicans and Democrats, and the country will recover.
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