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- profgiles, on 11/06/2009, -43/+155Krauthammer is like a touchstone - whatever he says you know that the opposite is the truth.
- sithmaster, on 11/06/2009, -44/+130Couldn't disagree more. 2 to 1 more conservatives than liberals? Don't think so.
- ohplease, on 11/06/2009, -38/+117Krauthammer refuses to acknowledge that the tea party movement was and is 100 percent astroturf, it IS phony.
- EMFK, on 11/06/2009, -25/+101The 2009 elections only confirm that 2010's midterm elections should be a real eye opener for the chattering political know-it-alls in this country. Most people are tired of both parties, but third parties just can't get their act together. We're tired of Bushbots and Obamabots.
- phogasmic, on 11/06/2009, -22/+91Jesus Christ, the 09 elections were hardly a mandate, the governers of VA and NJ just sucked. Why is it that he doesn't mention the NY-23 election where they voted Democrat for the first time in 100 and some odd years, what does that say?
Also Charles Krauthammer looks like a old Fraggle. - lutey, on 11/06/2009, -23/+87Pure propaganda. Funny how there was no talk about NY-23. Fractures in the conservative base allowed the district to go democrat for the first time since the Civil War. The Civil War! But shove that under the rug and make sweeping predictions off of two races. Typical.
- seltaeb4, on 11/06/2009, -20/+74Krauthammer is of the Sith.
- zip000, on 11/06/2009, -11/+63I stopped reading at "Obamacare". Nobody says that but people that know nothing or are full of *****.
None of the health care bills in congress were written by Obama or his administration. - jwelchtex, on 11/06/2009, -25/+64What a bitter little man.
- generalalcazar, on 11/06/2009, -24/+60"This was all ridiculous from the beginning. The '08 election was a historical anomaly. A uniquely charismatic candidate was running at a time of deep war weariness, with an intensely unpopular Republican president, against a politically incompetent opponent, amid the greatest financial collapse since the Great Depression. And still he won by only seven points."
Translation: "Yeah, so what if Obama won last year? ANYONE could have won under those conditions. He's not so great."
What a douche Krauthammer has become. - MisterBadIdea, on 11/06/2009, -15/+48I don't like this guy, but as far as the premise of this particular articles goes, he's correct: Large chunks of this country are still actively retarded.
- barcardi, on 11/06/2009, -18/+47I've said this before, I realllllllly liked the internet more when conservatives didnt know it existed.
- redskyformiles, on 11/06/2009, -22/+49Even though I'm not a conservative, it's nice to see that you guys can at least get a story on the front page every once and a while. Enjoy your moment.
- ayeroxor, on 11/06/2009, -3/+29Looks like the mister anonymous internet guy doesn't know how to debate without going ad hominem.
- rblancarte, on 11/06/2009, -5/+31Translation:
When the Democrats do it - anomaly
When the Republicans do it - mandate of the people
In the end what it comes down to is that people want to see real change. Each side preaches it, but never delivers. For all their rhetoric, they all do the same exact things. Sure, they tell us what we want to hear, but never do any of it. Contract with America 1994- resulted in little MAJOR change. We will see if Obama et al 2008 is similar. 1 year doesn't mean squat. - oldhick, on 11/06/2009, -11/+36I used to think so. I truly respected Krauthammer in the 90's when he was a solid conservative voice in the wilderness screaming against the influx of neoconservatives. He was a true fiscal conservative that rejected social conservatives and their ridiculous anti-liberty agenda. Loved that guy. But then he embraced neoconservatism under Bush and hasn't looked back. For that I can't forgive him.
- veganpa, on 11/06/2009, -12/+33most insightful DIGG comment I've seen in a long time. Kraut has been consistently, objectively, and embarrassingly wrong about everything for more than a decade.
- tomcat4u, on 11/06/2009, -13/+312009 elections where no surprise. No one cares about off-year elections, except if you are a member of the butt-hurt party that lost the major election the year before. This year, it's the Republicans. Dems got their big win, that's all they care about. No one gives two ***** about any race except the President. But if you are pissed that your country is being run by someone from the other party, you will be motivated to vote. Simple. As. That.
Go eat some brains, Krauthammer. Seriously, you look like a zombie. Maybe the brains will make you smarter? - FormerBabby, on 11/06/2009, -1/+19America needs to start over in the House and Senate. If only there were a reset button.
- Misinformant, on 11/06/2009, -13/+29Let them think they're right so the GOP will nominate ultra-right candidates in 2010 and 2012 and defeat themselves in the process.
We need not lift a finger. - Number127, on 11/06/2009, -3/+19Yeah, lots of craziness among the pundits. The Democrats just picked up a House seat -- a district that hasn't swung blue since before our great-grandparents were born, no less -- and that's supposed to make them worry about losing control of the legislature in 2010?
The other races have no predictive value; governors are a totally different beast than federal offices. NY-23 was the race to watch, and the teabaggers proved they're still political poison. It's a real shame, because I'd really like to see a rational opposition party these days. - dgreaney, on 11/06/2009, -9/+25That the self-described "geeks" of the Digg community would be drawn to the rationalistic, small-government Ayn-Randian conservatism of Ron Paul makes a certain degree of sense, but to the depraved, war-mongering, systematically deceptive neoconservatism of Krauthammer? Really?
- dse78759, on 11/06/2009, -1/+16I remember him being a HUGE proponent of going into Iraq, convincingly stating that France was holding back UN action because they were secretly violating the embargoes. He said once we were in all that would come to light.
Okay....still waiting... - laserdog, on 11/06/2009, -1/+16"And still he won by only seven points"
Well, if the goal had been to win the popular vote his campaign would have allocated resources differently.
Classic "moving the goalposts".
Obama won the election 365 to 173. - superhoff, on 11/06/2009, -4/+19"The vaunted Obama realignment vanished. In 2009 in Virginia, the black vote was down by 20 percent; the under-30 vote by 50 percent."
That has nothing to do with "Obamaism in action" as Krauthammer claims, but rather the fact that Obama brought these people to the polls in 2008 because he inspired them. This election lacked a candidate that black and young voters cared about. - tankenka, on 11/06/2009, -14/+28Krauthammer knows his stuff, but that did catch my eye. Looking at the link he provided there, it looks like Gallup was asking people how their political ideas were aligned. Kinda weird considering most people probably don't know what those words truly mean, not to mention that people have a tendency to be one thing one day, and another the next.
- trolleyfan, on 11/06/2009, -8/+22"Do you depend on others to help you live? - No"
So you grow your own food and forge your own steel and print your own chips for the computer you're writing this on? Do you go to a doctor when sick, and travel there on the road outside, then pick up something to read at the library?
Well, congratulations! You depend on others to help you live. It's called a "society" - look it up. - hblask, on 11/06/2009, -7/+21The Gallup numbers appear correct within context. Here's a more detailed analysis of the poll and discussion of where America stands:
http://reason.com/archives/2009/11/05/america-only ... - s73v3r, on 11/06/2009, -2/+15A governor who no one liked was kicked out. Big surprise. Perhaps an even bigger surprise is that a county that has sent only one party to Congress since the 1850s sent someone of the other party this year.
- oldhick, on 11/06/2009, -3/+16@OPR8R, could you explain more how fiscal conservatism is similar to social conservatism? You have peaked my curiosity.
- captininsanity, on 11/06/2009, -5/+18Democrat is the best we got unfortunately. Obama in reality acts as a moderate, I don't really see why Republicans are so afraid of him. America doesn't really have a liberal party. Libertarian is sort of socially liberal, but they're more conservitive than the Republicans when it comes to money. Republican is the conservative party, Democrat is the moderate party, and Green is rated as liberal but PETA people make me skeptical. Political Compass has a really good graphic of this:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008 - jeffshaught, on 11/06/2009, -0/+13/\
Check out the crazy on this guy. - Chahrlie5, on 11/06/2009, -2/+14Well that's what they usually do, or throw pies in your face
- Smokeydabear, on 11/06/2009, -23/+35I've said it once if I've said it a million timesn old and crusty tube sock as president > President Bush's best day (either bush).
- mousewarmer, on 11/06/2009, -2/+13Duh, because the Democrats won NY-23. That doesn't tell us anything about the national political climate like a Republican winning a southern governorship or a Republican beating a wildly unpopular Democratic incumbent for governor. Just like that national blowout the Democrats had last year didn't really tell us much. The problem is that you are paying attention to the elections and to numbers, which will just confuse you without Charles K. to sort things out for you...
- Greyscale88, on 11/06/2009, -1/+12I think you should look up the actual Economic textbook definition of a "recession" then come back.
- Blinker1315, on 11/06/2009, -8/+19This was a terrific column, making a lot of sense, but I agree that the citation of the Gallup poll was misleading. Polls can be interpreted in many ways, depending on how questions are asked. Do conservatives outnumber liberals by a 2-1 margin? Doubtful. America is a centrist country. The great battle in any election is the 15 percent or so that swings one way or the other.
- reviewrater2, on 11/06/2009, -2/+12rjey - gee, the economy grew in the third quarter, officially ending the recession and proving that Krugman was right
- ohplease, on 11/06/2009, -4/+14Perhaps he should start something that isn't propped up by Fox News and FreedomWorks if he was "tired of it under Bush".
- digitalArtform, on 11/06/2009, -8/+18I personally extend a helping hand - and grasp the handle of the force multiplier called 'Government.'
Perhaps the difference between Liberals and Conservatives is Liberals understand the physics of things like levers, pulleys and inclined planes. - rolawson, on 11/06/2009, -1/+11*piqued
and opr8r doesn't understand social conservatism - hivoltage815, on 11/06/2009, -5/+15I would have agreed with you, but I have been working with the leader of the tea party in my city on a marketing project for a non-profit, and he is a very intelligent libertarian; I was kind of shocked. He just wants responsible government, that is all. He was tired of it under Bush and even more so now under Obama.
Now of course hicks come out of the woodworks and join the movement and give it a bad name, but there are plenty of good guys in there. - adunlevie, on 11/06/2009, -1/+11@DoubleDown
Thats interesting. I also earn money to pay for things, don't ask for government assistance, and only buy what I can afford. And yet, im not a conservative.
Boy am I confused, could you rework me through the logic? - phogasmic, on 11/06/2009, -4/+14-Do you think tax dollars are for bombing people rather then helping them?
-Yes
Then you are a Conservative - FormerBabby, on 11/06/2009, -0/+10Steve Job's liver is the source of his doucebaggery.
- diggduggDOOM, on 11/06/2009, -4/+14"Do you believe that you should be held accountable for your family's upbringing?"
What the hell is this question even asking? - kerrickter, on 11/06/2009, -6/+16I am not understanding how the democrats can win all the national elections, and picked up a seat in the house Tuesday, and the media says that Republicans were the winners.
- johnn11238, on 11/06/2009, -1/+10I guess Krauthammer doesn't count as "the Media"...
- JigoroKano, on 11/06/2009, -2/+11It's very obvious why a poll would report that. "Liberal" has been made into a derogatory word in America. Of course people don't want to identify it as a label.
You have to poll people's opinions on policy, while using neutral terms, to get a good gauge of their true ideology. - kenrblan, on 11/06/2009, -4/+13The only thing Krauthammer got correct is that our polarized media overstates and sensationalizes everything. The problem is that he is falling into the exact same trap by overstating what this very,very tiny election cycle means in a macro-political sense. Trying to connect two governors getting crushed to a rebuttal of presidential mandate is ludicrous. Is California all of sudden a red state because they have the Governator? Local issues matter in local/state government elections. Party changes happen and don't always reflect the perceived demographics. That is how my thoroughly red state got a Democratic governor who is finishing his second term.
When the media stops spending the 24-hour news cycle in speculation about theoretical possibilities based on narrow prejudiced world views and returns to reporting facts about actual events, we will all be better served. -
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