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- rcook18, on 11/15/2009, -2/+78For the most part, Congress does the bidding of top corporate executives. For the most part, news media does the bidding of top corporate executives. Both Congress and the major media work for the same few people.
- reeds1999, on 11/16/2009, -0/+53The media will parrot any lie, public or private, if they believe it will increase profits.
- Crimeodial, on 11/16/2009, -0/+41Remember how many tough questions the media asked before invading Iraq? Almost none. I know they exist to make a profit, but it's also a public service and with many things the government does, it needs to ask harder questions. Hell, half the reason people don't understand the health care legislation is because it hasn't been properly explained by any of the news organizations. I'm not singling out one source here, they're all guilty of this crap.
- algaeturd, on 11/16/2009, -0/+22The reason this whole thing works is evident in every comment that mentions Obama.
The powers that be (and that's not the political powers, if you can believe it) have set up a duality that's akin to sports in the political arena.
It's very simple, yet almost nobody acknowledges it or points it out.
The same way that Americans root for their favorite team or athlete, many do the same with political parties. I'd say on a critical level, very few supporters of either party know the real stories of what's going on outside of what the MSM reports. They don't care enough to, quite frankly.
But they'll wave the pennant for their respective parties and defend them to the death. Ironic, given that the leaders these people support wouldn't give a ***** about the very people who support them and get them elected into office on the national level.
True, we're nowhere close to breaking out of the two-party system (which is basically one party with different logos and corporate colors...you know, the same way your favorite football team has a logo and colors) but if Americans were smart, they'd wake up to the fact they've been played and had over the whole thing.
Think about it...a country where people care enough about what's going on to inform THEMSELVES outside of mainstream media, people who read up on the bills that are being proposed and voted on, people who are keeping track of the lies told themselves, people who are holding elected officials to their campaign promises. NOT being afraid to call out their own party or the leader they voted for. The whole thing is built on greed and pride. And Americans are generally too greedy and have too much pride to admit they voted for a ***** and to call out their own parties for the lies and disinformation and the lobbyist dollars lining their pockets.
This country is not a stadium. And the political parties are NOT teams. There are no referees and there is no scoreboard. There is a virtual game being played and it's being played on YOU. While the denizens of the country fight and bicker about which side is better, both sides continue to collude and run this nation into the ground for their own financial profits.
When people do finally wake up and see that the score is still tied, 50 years later, nobody has won and everybody has lost...it'll be way too late. The hatred is deep seeded between each party and the voters and constituents neither care nor remember what it is they were arguing and debating over in the first place. They just know the other side is wrong. They're liars and thieves and cheats.
Funny that the same can be said for both sides.
This isn't the Superbowl. There will not be a winner and a loser. In the end, we'll all lose. Wait and see.
Until such time that Americans are able to overcome the hatred they have for one another, the pride they have in parties that don't even reciprocate the loyalty and the ignorance that allows this 1-party system (disguised as 2) to continue to thrive and flourish.
It's always be 48% to 52%...the scale will just be designed to slide a bit either way every four years to game the act just enough to keep people waving their colors (blue or red) like they're at some playoff game in November. Keep the game close and you'll always keep the fans rabid.
Politics is not sports...there aren't playoffs and pennant races and Superbowls or a Final Four.
As an American citizen, you don't win some, lose some.
You lose 'em all in the end. We all lose in the end.
And if you still stand by either party and beam with pride, something is not registering properly with you. - detcade, on 11/15/2009, -11/+32A partisan media article about partisan media... funny stuff
- prisoner24601, on 11/16/2009, -2/+21The last time congress voted to raise the national debt ceiling I distinctly remember how it didn't show up on ANY major news website. Didn't even hit the digg front page. It'll be interesting to see what happens this time. We're about to hit the current limit of 12 trillion dollars, so they will have to repeat this "we'll make it the next guy's problem" pattern again within several months. It's kind of staggering how often you'll get balloon-boy/Britney-got-a-new-haircut/someone-is-screaming-at-a-townhall-meeting items headlining on EVERY major news outlet but something as "mundane" as we-are-impoverishing-our-children doesn't interest people enough.
- akhomestead, on 11/16/2009, -0/+14One of the biggest special interest groups in DC in MSM. Funny how they never report that.
- InternetCitizen, on 11/16/2009, -4/+17Yes, because Fox News doesn't give ANYONE the softball treatment. Not at all.
Seriously, holding Fox News up as an example of journalistic integrity? Admiring their pursuit of the truth?
This is such a blatant troll I almost feel ashamed for responding to it. - detcade, on 11/16/2009, -5/+17I'm still waiting to hear how the NY Times is lying about Palin:
http://digg.com/politics/Palin_s_Book_Goes_Rogue_o ... - mah2cent, on 11/16/2009, -2/+14It seems that government have adopted Hitler's "big lie" concept in trying to convince the public of whatever is their latest power grab. This is not a Republican/Democrat scheme; it both parties and mostly in cahoots with each other.
As pointed out above, governments and their pimps (the "free-press") both appear to work for big corporates such as Goldman Sachs, and do not care what the citizens want. The citizens do not give them big payoffs for "favors". - teebird, on 11/16/2009, -0/+8Quoting govtdoesnotwork: "...Bovard's article doesn't kiss either Democrat or Republican ass, if you actually read it..."
You're assuming they can read at all. That might be giving them too much credit.
I think one of the reasons the media fail to do their job when it comes to political reporting can be summed up in a single word..."access." Everybody wants to get the "inside story" and they're all afraid of being excluded which is, in fact, what happens if some senior official doesn't like this or that network's reporting. Over-reliance on access to top-level bureaucrats and their staff has diverted attention and energy away from real down-in-the -trenches reporting which often doesn't require being on the "inside" and may in fact be much the better for being an "outside" job.
A good example is the way Landay and Strobel investigated the Bush administration's rationalizations for going to war in Iraq. Their reporting put most other news organizations to shame and it was done almost entirely outside the conventional channels of press "access." They spent weeks digging through masses of public records to assemble their story and brought out facts that nearly every other news organization had overlooked.
http://www.ajr.org/article_printable.asp?id=3725
Unfortunately most news organizations aren't interested in that type of precision reporting. It takes too long and costs too much and the competition for eyes and ears is too great. So, instead, what we get is superficial reporting, overuse of "confidential sources," journalists and commentators talking on-air to other journalists and commentators and two-minute interviews with politicians and bureaucrats.
It's not bad as show business, but it's a pretty poor substitute for real news.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 11/16/2009, -1/+9Fox "News" has kneepads for the Neocons. Here's proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iW5kOB1pmg
Times 2, this time from their own mouths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3ZtMJEwLw
Face it, David. They were biased against Ron Paul, period, and THEY *****' ADMITTED IT *THEMSELVES*!!!!! Deal with the facts!!! Fox "News" is a propaganda outlet every bit as biased as PMSNBC, whether or not you or Digg's equally idiotic Democrats want to hear it. The proof is right before your eyes (and we have more). - lamiaconfitor, on 11/16/2009, -6/+14Wow... you missed the mark there. Not that Im saying I *like* acorn, but they are far from the kind of corporate power that lobbies congress and pays media salaries. If you are freaking about acorn its because you are swallowing the red herring that FOX is asking you to chase.
- 1x253, on 11/16/2009, -1/+9"... unpaid pimps."
UNpaid pimps?! No, they're all paid in varying degrees for their complicity. And if you're a really good boy, like Tony Snow, you get the extra special treatment. I agree, however, with the "pimp" metaphor used to describe them. - jaytek13, on 11/16/2009, -5/+12This is a huge problem I've noticed in liberal media particularly. For whatever bias the right wing loonies dream up these stations of having, whether its CNN, MSNBC, PBS/NPR, or whatever, none of these stations actively call out Republicans on their lies when it should be an easy feat. Fox News actually might be due some credit here for calling out the lies of Democrats.
It's just really sad that, while presented as satire, I've seen more hard-hitting reporting from the Daily Show than any of the rest of the so-called "liberal media".
Point being, if a politician lies, it shouldn't go unchecked, whether it's from the mouth of a Republican or Democrat. This isn't a partisan issue, this is an issue about truth in our government which should be held to the highest standard and subject to the deepest scrutiny. - bugsy187, on 11/16/2009, -5/+12Acorn doesn't come close to the lobbying power of the big oil, pharmaceuticals, etc. Do they even lobby or just get out the vote to a portion of the population? It's convenient for republican representatives paid off by big business to scapegoat Acorn. It's unfortunate when middle and lower class people believe the con and undercut their own class interest.
- Rothbardosaurus, on 11/16/2009, -0/+7FTA:
It is not that the typical journalist is intentionally covering up government lies, but that his radar is not set to detect such occurrences. Lies rarely register in Washington journalists’ minds because they are usually supplicants for government information, not dogged pursuers of the truth. Raising troublesome questions will not help you get any “silver platter” stories. - disoriented, on 11/16/2009, -1/+8I rarely comment on digg though I've been on here for a long time. In fact I had to log in just now to do so. But you sir have made the most sense I have ever read on this website. Its merely a facade to keep the people of this country satisfied with their party every few years, when in reality, it's only going to be a lesser of two evils. Until we stray from this two party system; greed, power, and corruption will ruin this country.
- Ern3sto09, on 11/16/2009, -8/+14Everyone knows the media hates to cover political scandals that boosts their ratings. Oh wait...
The intentions of the media seem to be superficial... they just want higher ratings to be more popular to be more profitable.
Or
THE MEDIA IS IN CAHOOTS WITH OBAMA IN A BIG CONSPIRACY TO ELIMINATE YOUR RIGHTS WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL MOTIVATION!!!!!!111!!!!1!!!!11 - Crimeodial, on 11/16/2009, -0/+6So when are we taking to the streets to change this? It doesn't matter what your agenda is. The MSM is misrepresenting that, lets put up a bunch of (PEACEFUL!!!!!) protests to show them how wrong they are.
- rebrad, on 11/16/2009, -0/+5General Electric and their corporate allies.
- quarando, on 11/16/2009, -1/+6I hope that is a joke. The media has torn Acorn apart for far lesser crimes than what goes on in the government and in corporate board rooms on a daily basis.
- NorthMass, on 11/16/2009, -7/+12DavidNiven, FOX has some good people but for the most part it is just biased Republican programming, just like MSNBC being biased Democrat programming.
- Rothbardosaurus, on 11/16/2009, -1/+6Being a pro-truth partisan really isn't a bad thing.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 11/16/2009, -2/+7Uh, if it's partisan, what party? Libertarian?? Because Bovard's article doesn't kiss either Democrat or Republican ass, if you actually read it...
- Eight7, on 11/16/2009, -0/+4Spot on!
- nirvanix, on 11/16/2009, -0/+4Sshhh...you're likely to wake people up with talk like this!
- Moralogic, on 11/16/2009, -0/+4gov, DN is too brainwashed to believe it. He is absolutely hopeless, or he is am employee of Fox or a like minded group to troll places like this to try to give them a little bit of a voice.
- lamiaconfitor, on 11/16/2009, -5/+9Just after he bashed Roosevelt and Clinton. yeah, this is obviously Biased. jackass.
- dtele, on 11/16/2009, -2/+6I guess you can't trust politicians.... from any party.
- thecoolestguy, on 11/16/2009, -5/+8There's more money in manipulating public opinion, then there is in getting ratings.
If you can control public opinion, you can get the people to accept a 700,000 million$ (700 billion$) corporate welfare package for the biggest banks in America.
That dwarfs any kind of profits the media could hope to make through regular channels. - MacDreidel, on 11/17/2009, -0/+3Any media outlet that was caught speaking out against the invasion of Iraq was basically backhanded and told they would get zero access to the front lines which is what all the news media was drooling to be put on...which directly boosts their ratings.
By just trying to tell the truth you risked your entire network being blocked from any access to the war(s). Seriously sickening. - tamckissick, on 11/16/2009, -0/+3I've been working on that exact project for a while now. Gathering a team and all. I've posted numerous times that we could use some help of this kind or that kind and people just dog it and bury it. So basically, I'm pretty soured on asking people for assistance and that means it'll take 2 more years to complete as opposed to 4-6 months.
Mark my words... no one will reply asking to help, but I'll get either buried or crickets. - Rothbardosaurus, on 11/16/2009, -2/+5Good thing we regulated media ownership so that only people as rich as Rupert Murdoch can participate in mass media.
/s - cheezebeater, on 11/16/2009, -0/+3The media and the government... It's really strange that I didn't see the word corporation in this article. Why is that? If we were to ask why the media would lie or why the government would lie.... it would most likely be due to money. Money that a corporation will leverage any way that they can. In order to bribe a politician, you have to have someone with the resources to make the bribe who has something to lose. That is the evil. We must pay attention to our government carefully. Protest where we must, and find sources of information that we can rely upon. These sources may not be very exciting... However, they can help us understand what is actually happening so that we can draw intelligent conclusions. Strangely, I'm not talking about Fox "News"... Their job is simply to make you react emotionally..... make you angry... etc...
- govtdoesnotwork, on 11/16/2009, -3/+6FFF does better media bias analysis in their spare time than the groups whose entire existence is dedicated to exposing media bias (which both the left and right interpret as "working the refs" rather than honest bias-busting!). Good job, Bovard.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/16/2009, -1/+4Well stated Algae, but alas, that type of talk is usually cause of both sides of the coin digging you down..But correct non the less.
- Rothbardosaurus, on 11/16/2009, -0/+3No, it's just that the MSM are little more than weak-minded stenographers.
- baileyntx, on 11/16/2009, -2/+5Many years ago...when I still believed the media had our best interests at heart...that they really were our watch dogs, I had a conversation with an X Detroit cop. He was discussing how the media had distorted what had really occured on the streets during the Detroit riots so many years ago. At that time I could not believe it. I continued on in my faith in the media, but that conversation never left my memory.
Two things happened that made me an apostate.
An airplane crashed. I work for an airline and one of our flights crashed. I was involved in that flight and knew many of the details...the media..in order to make it a more dramatic story...distorted and even made up many of the facts.
Then came 9/11. More airplanes crashing. It was surreal. I had to find out why those Muslims decided to do what they did on that day. I learned about Islam, the jihadist ideology and their intentions. The biggest lie that the Media hands out to us on this front is that jihadist terrorists acts are not about the relegion. It is all about the religion. Jihadists do not distort the Koran...they live it. It is an uncomfortable truth that the media feels they must hide. The Ft Hood massacre is a prime example.
Bottom line: If you want truth in news, you must verify it with multiple sources. - spongya77, on 11/16/2009, -1/+4It just simply shows that without independent media, that's keen on exposing the gov., AND an effective system, that actually acts on those exposes (not to mention, well informed and active citizenry), there is no democracy, and only an illusion of liberty.
Funnily enough people are only active when they are repressed. As soon as they are freed they become complicent. - insomniacal, on 11/16/2009, -8/+10Buried for no mention of Obama. It's 2009 already.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 11/16/2009, -2/+4Did either one of you bother to actually read the article in question? Sure doesn't look like it from what you've said...
- akhomestead, on 11/16/2009, -6/+8The most amazing part is most can only see the other side doing it. The MSM sold us Obama like they sold us GW, and WMD's. He was who they always talked about on every show, good or bad, it made him a mainstream candidate. And every time they talked about Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul it was vague and with "marginal candidate, or long shot candidate" being mentioned at least once.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/16/2009, -2/+4Sad but true - it also is stated in another conservative axiom:
The second you do something for some that they could and should do for themselves, they will stop even trying to do it for themselves. - daeyeth, on 11/16/2009, -0/+2They couldn't come up with a better analogy for the media than "unpaid pimps"? If the pimp isn't taking money, then that would make his whores his slaves, which is clearly not the case with the media/politician relationship.
- Moralogic, on 11/16/2009, -0/+2The power of the internet and people who think for themselves is where we are left. If we actually got a group of people together to report the pure facts, we could create the most trusted news group on the web. We would need to varify every little detail though to keep integrity, and we could have a section dedicated to discrediting the other news orgs.
- Rothbardosaurus, on 11/16/2009, -3/+5There are not enough hours of TV in a day to bash the US government for all the lies and abuses it perpetrates in a single afternoon.
- Rothbardosaurus, on 11/16/2009, -1/+3Dugg for FFF.org
- lamiaconfitor, on 11/16/2009, -0/+2We are both talking more about the source, then the writing in the article itself. I wasn't going to check the article out at all when I saw it was from fff. But, yes, I read it before I commented.
- quarando, on 11/16/2009, -0/+2I don't think the MSM denies the 9/11 terrorists devotion to Islam. They tend to argue that jihadist Islam isn't representative of the Islam that most muslims follow, which is true. It's kind of like when Christians blow up abortion clinics or carry out other acts of terrorism in Ireland. You can find some basis for Christian terrorism in the bible, but that doesn't mean that Christianity is an ideology of terror and the MSM needs to denounce Christianity as a whole.
It's true that the MSM is mostly propaganda, but I think your analysis of the Muslim thing is way off. The real media failure of 9/11 wasn't that they went easy on Islam, it was that they refused to examine the terrorists motives for the attacks, claiming that reporting on the motives was the same as giving justification. That is ridiculous of course. When a murder is committed, police look for motive, that isn't justifying the crime, it is just trying to understand it.
The MSM refused to give any analysis of motive outside of "they are a bunch of crazies that hate our freedom". This is what is really revealing about the media, because even a very basic investigation of the motives would have revealed ugly truths about American foreign policy and the global economic order that powerful people didn't want to enter the public discussion. -
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