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- woahwoahwoah, on 02/07/2009, -12/+52How is he fear-mongering? Did you see the job reports this morning? Do you do not think this will become a national catastrophe if we don't act in some way?
- colincornaby, on 02/07/2009, -7/+41Is this really what the Republican party has come down to? No content and all spin?
I've repeatedly seen Obama bashing articles on here in the past few days, but not a thing on how the Republicans actually plan to fix things. You know what that's called? Trying to distract people from your own inadequacies. - phrenzy, on 02/07/2009, -14/+40Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen! Step right up to today's wing-nut circle-jerk on digg! All your favorite, frighteningly resentful, sore-losing trolls are on display for your amusement!
It's FreakRepublic's own little corner of digg! - woahwoahwoah, on 02/07/2009, -4/+29I may not agree with some components of the stimulus, guys, but Obama is hardly fear-mongering. Review the latest job reports. They're some of the worst in years, quite frankly. If we don't act speedily and with compromise, then there will be a national catastrophe. He's not telling Americans that there will be utter doom and gloom; he's simply stating that it will be hard to reverse the downturn if we allow the economy to worsen.
- geneticlemon, on 02/07/2009, -7/+32Hahaha, seriously? It's been less than a month and the Republican wanks are already bitching and moaning.
Your President Bush got us into this mess -- it has left President Obama with very few options. Get over your butt hurt and shut up. - X9001, on 02/07/2009, -4/+28Its easy to criticize from your armchair, buts its actually difficult to come up with a working solution
- DocOrpheus, on 02/07/2009, -7/+27"Fierce Urgency of Pork"? Is Krauthammer trying to resuscitate the McCain two months post-mortem?
Buried as more conservative grumbling. - lordmike, on 02/07/2009, -1/+18Funny, Krauthammer (aka Dr. Strangelove) never had any problem with Bush's appeals to fear, nor did he have any problems with all of his and Republicans' pork projects. Oh, BTW, some of the "pork" that gut cut today? Building new schools... yeah, bad stuff, these schools...
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -2/+15amen to that. It's amazing that some of the dumbest people can still manage to figure out how to use the internets.
- woahwoahwoah, on 02/07/2009, -3/+16I never knew that stating economic statistics was fear-mongering.
- pickleprince, on 02/07/2009, -3/+16I'm sorry American Angle, but you can not be serious.
- feenxfire, on 02/07/2009, -4/+16Where do these neocon diggers come from? There must be a coordinated effort. Libertarians, I get - but outright FANS of Krauthammer? There's no way.
- feenxfire, on 02/07/2009, -4/+16How the ***** can you praise a bile filled neocon and Richard Pryor in the same sentence? If he were alive, Pryor would kick "the Hammer" in the balls.
- shylove, on 02/06/2009, -20/+31Each side can bash each other, obstruct, posture, position, strut upon the stage, filibuster, flabbergast, argue personal problems, pick fault, nitpic all they want. But what it amounts to is helping your own country fall apart. So go on everyone committ suicide if that's all you can figure out to do. Cooperation is actually a self sustaining practice as opposed to the current self destruction that seems to be in vogue.
This really isn't Obama's time right now, it is our time to save ourselves from the disaster of Reaganomic vulture capitalism. A country that feeds on it's own carcass!!! - enoerew, on 02/07/2009, -2/+12Concerning the money that Krauthammer says would be wasted on construction in the Milwaukee Public School system, if you read the second half of the article he cites, you will see a fuller description of what construction means and how the rest of the money would be used. Construction really means bringing schools into the 21st century, primarily by making them more energy effictient. The rest of the money will be used to help low-income and special education students, while creating 3200 jobs.
So encouraging efficiency, providing jobs, and helping the less fortunate is wrong?
For more information, http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/38762217.ht ... .
This article is the epitomy of jumping to conclusions after reading the first half of an article, and then throwing your opinion around. - ironhide, on 02/07/2009, -5/+15Too bad you figured out how to use one.
- niradg, on 02/07/2009, -1/+11Charles Krauthammer might just be the stupidest man in America. My favorite editorial from the past year has to be when he argued that the Bush Doctrine was flexible. The man doesn't know the meaning of the word "doctrine" and he writes for the Washington Post. Nobody who has two brain cells to rub together could take this man seriously. Of course, the only reason the editors of the Washington Post employ this geriatric retard is to make the right look as stupid as possible. They're succeeding admirably.
- 420buddah, on 02/07/2009, -0/+9Man, I was beginning to get worried for a second that digg had took a turn for the worst.
Thank you for that piece of enlightenment. - NiftyG, on 02/07/2009, -2/+11If he's so concerned about spending, maybe he'd be willing to stop this trillion dollar war.
Oh wait, that's right, we have to fight them over there... or something. - Dustin00, on 02/07/2009, -0/+9The fear and hope was Dick Cheney's shrill screeching about wolves, not the economy.
Dick, Bush, and McCain believed on the economy that "The fundamentals are strong."
I know, you're easily confused, that's why you voted for Republicans on that crazy ballot with all those words. - Strman, on 02/07/2009, -11/+19It appears to me that he is simply telling the truth.
- spectecjr, on 02/07/2009, -0/+8I don't know if you guys are watching, but out here in Seattle, I'm seeing A LOT of people losing their jobs. Everyone is pulling back. The big companies are cancelling projects and external contracts, and that's making a lot of smaller companies scramble.
General feeling out here is that the economy is in a flat spin. It has stalled. Less money is coming in than the burn rates for many companies will allow, and that's causing a LOT of places to go down rapidly. Even well established companies are feeling the pinch.
EVERYONE is retrenching, and cutting costs.
So yes, it's accurate. Where the hell are you guys living that you've got it so good? Because let me know, and we'll bid for contracts there. - inactive, on 02/07/2009, -3/+10Must reading for a bitter old man that is crying that his neocon buddies policies have failed? keep on dreaming that Bush hadn't deregulated this country into the ground foolio.
- CoryTrevor, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6I don't understand why people keep screaming about "pork" in this stimulus package. I don't care if they are providing training on homosexual seals. All that money is spent on people doing jobs in the US. They'd have to hire teachers to teach the course. Hire print shops to print the material. Hire copywriters to write the material. Hire US shipping companies to ships the goods, etc. All the money's being spent on Americans.
- feenxfire, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6...or the epitome of deception.
- MacLiberal, on 02/07/2009, -2/+8Buried, this is nothing more than a right wing hit job. The repugs know that when Pres O turns this economy around, it's all over for them, the world will remember that they got us into this mess and Pres O got us out. No matter how much they try to sabotage this economic revival, it won't work and the "free market" (otherwise known as the right to be a slave) is dead.
- Alheithinn, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6The message being sent by Republicans - both in the Senate and here on Digg or anywhere else, is that it's OKAY TO BE STUPID! Just be loyal to Rush Limbaugh's talking points, and all will be well. OBEY RUSH. Bunch of mindless zombies. Someone should rig up some of those 'Zombie alert' signs en route to Washington because the place is infested with them.
- niradg, on 02/07/2009, -2/+8Oh, and by definition, there is NO PORK in the stimulus plan. How said that Charles has been in Washington for so many years and he doesn't even understand how Congress works.
- freedomjoe, on 02/07/2009, -3/+8buried: WaPo-- Right of Faux and carrying water.
- CaptOblivious, on 02/07/2009, -2/+7I've been thinking that very thing since I joined digg.
- novenator, on 02/07/2009, -0/+5Utahnguy, I'm happy your state is doing well financially. So is Texas due to oil wealth. The rest of the country is in some serious financial peril however.
- jordanisj, on 02/07/2009, -3/+8Buried for Krauthammer. One of the most amazing smug delusional right-wingers in the newspaper world.
- niradg, on 02/07/2009, -0/+5Exactly. Not a single person on the right has come up with a credible alternative solution. Tax cuts won't work during deflation, so government spending the only credible choice.
- graeh, on 02/07/2009, -1/+5false equivalency.
it was pretty obvious what fear he was speaking of, in his address.
to attempt to frame the fear of economic peril from inaction (based on council from respected economic advisors and experts), to the fear referenced in his address isn't clever, it's some weak kung fu. - ZenMojo, on 02/07/2009, -0/+4Cut taxes 900 billion dollars and watch money flow into savings accounts....
Your maths fail.
If you have a 1,000 dollar tax cut and NO JOB, you've got rent for a month and then you're ***** again. Whatever happened to the old adage "teach a man to fish?" It's just irresponsible to throw money at people without the requisite sustainability to accompany it. - graeh, on 02/07/2009, -0/+4haha - yeah, leave it up to the individual citizens.
that's idealistic, to the point of embarassment.
Also - I'm pretty sure there's no transubstantiation, you are people, people in government are people, people in companies are people. If you think that you are far more savvy than 'the government' (or, people, your countrymen) with how to spend money for economic stability, you can take said savvy, and replace the person without it in the government. - freedomjoe, on 02/07/2009, -2/+6I agree....also, if you notice, it 's the same people rotating the submissions.
- lordmike, on 02/07/2009, -1/+5The CBO report on the Senate bill says that 87% will be spent in the first year. Fox news, for some strange reason, didn't report that little tidbit that came out a few days ago.
- graeh, on 02/07/2009, -1/+4Who knows - there's some retardedly childish point scoring game going on where any event is mined for properties which can be unrealistically represented in a sentence ending with "yeah, that's change we can believe in".
I think everyone's realised it's going to be like, a grating fixture of political discussion in the US for now until the end of Obamas term, hell, they might keep it going after that.
I guess sitting in complicit silence to an unjust war, torture, warrantless domestic spying, suspension of habeus corpus, a corrupt justice department... must be... almost certainly how most of the people doing the "change we can believe in lol sarcasm!" behaved. And now they're making mountains out of molehills.
WHERE WAS THE GOD DAMNED MOUNTAIN WHEN HABEUS CORPUS WAS SUSPENDED? There are probably people here putting more effort into this disengenuous "he said no fear and then there's fear!" drama than they put into any critical political jabs at the last admin. - Alheithinn, on 02/07/2009, -1/+4What do you call what the Republican Senators are doing? What Rush Limbaugh is doing? THAT is the fear-mongering. Not what Obama is saying.
- pensivewombat, on 02/07/2009, -2/+5You have to keep in mind that this is an enormous stimulus package. I keep reading "OMG millions in pork!!" but that actually accounts for a fraction of a percent of the bill. The other common argument is that things aren't "stimulus" because they aren't spent this instant. The fact that things take time. If you want to create construction and teaching jobs by building a new school, it's probably going to take a year or two to lay all the plans and get things started.
- graeh, on 02/07/2009, -1/+4So - the democrats made this obvious major mistake - which caused this financial crisis, with the glass stegal act - among other things.
Why - if it was so obvious a mistake - was it not fixed in the 8 years after they were out of office, during periods where executive power was unmatched? Who is on paper fingering the culprits of a financial crisis, calling it before it happens - and who's making judgements in retrospect?
The GOP had 8 years to shore up the economy, to right past apparently egregious wrongs.
Failure to do so - and broad convenient finger pointing after the collapse - do not mitigate the responsibility the guy in the chair for the last 8 years must bare for not seeing this coming, and not working to prevent it.
Also - I don't know who that author is, but he's got a dickish style of writing - to attempt to tie Obama's assertion that the stimulus package is required sooner rather than later as fear mongering - that Obama said was in the past. I've got some homeland security laminated illustrated leaflets that can tell you how to hide in a nuclear blast, and a colourised threat level indicator, a war launched into on the sale of "weapons of mass destruction, 45 minutes to set up! now now now!". To seek to imply equivalency between "stimulus package needed sooner rather than later economic experts say it can lessen catastrophe", and all the WMD terrorist fear propaganda that was the hallmark of the last administration, is an exercise in intellectual fraud. - ZenMojo, on 02/07/2009, -2/+5When you combine a free market without government interference you get nails in your flour.
Stop acting like the 19th and 20th century never actually happened, champ. There's books that say otherwise and they even have pictures. - niradg, on 02/07/2009, -3/+6Yeah, over the past few days it has become pretty apparent that conservatives are gaming Digg. How THE ***** does an article from politics get on the frontpage with only 175 Diggs? They planned and had everyone Digg it at once. KEVIN & JAY - FIX THIS!
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -1/+4Fear mongering from "our team"...I love it!
I should make a "fear-mongering" list from the past 8 years...
Can you say DUCT TAPE your doors and windows? (you know....when right before we invaded Iraq...Saddam was going to be sending those "bottle rockets" filled with mustard gas ad other deadly crap over to our nation?)... Though it was well reported those days that he was down to the capability of a mosquito attacking a frog...
So now the "right" wants to attack US for fear mongering? When we just finished 8 years of the very fear that made people vote for the Bubble Boy?
Sad that they STILL do not "get it" that it was THEY that caused all of this with their votes... and they voted "both" times because of their "fears"....
Sadder...that they STILL could think that McLame and PALIN were the ones that could have brought us back from the devastation laid upon us...
I think on the next rainy day that comes my way, well I'm going to make that list. The FEAR that the right (Rove) sold the morons who "believed"...for 2 terms... Yes, I think I will have to do that... Something tells me it's going to be a loooooooong list by the time I get done. - normlsparky, on 02/07/2009, -0/+2The previous administration is directly responsible for our current economic situation. Republicans controlled both the House and Senate from 1994-2006, as well as the White House for the past 8 years.
Controlling our government's policies for that length of time means accepting responsibility for the outcome of those policies. They have failed. - archiesteel, on 02/07/2009, -0/+2No, the point of the original 700G$ was precisely to stop the Credit Crisis and keep the banks afloat, because if those banks had tanked the situation would be much, much worse.
So, yeah, the stimulus package did work in preventing a complete financial collapse. Now, a different kind of stimulus is needed.
I certainly won't stop commenting as long as you clearly need an education in these matters. - lordmike, on 02/07/2009, -1/+3Who is more guilty, though.... the guy who got a loan for that house, or the banker who should have known better and not loaned that guy the money (and probably lied to them about the terms)... I'd say the latter.
- shhawkins, on 02/07/2009, -0/+2Sure am glad I'm not in charge. Everyday a little crazier.
- ZenMojo, on 02/07/2009, -0/+2The Republican fix costs three times as much and is against pay caps for bailed out corporations.
That's why you won't see it on Digg, it's because the alternative is a joke. -
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