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- snowcrazy, on 01/08/2009, -10/+148USA's 2nd most dispicable act was to vote this clown in...first was giving him a 2nd term.
- Tiak, on 01/09/2009, -6/+91Note: It's probably a bad sign if you have to spend a minute or two after reading this article considering whether or not advocating torture and revoking the Geneva Conventions were really the worst things he's done... While it's related in some respects, I'd say giving himself the ability to revoke habeas corpus for anyone he chooses is a close competitor.
- mrroarke, on 01/10/2009, -6/+79Ask any Republican why they dislike Bill Clinton, they'll say it's because he lied. Let's see if that applies to Bush.
- grungegbunny, on 01/10/2009, -0/+72The real sad part is we didn't really vote him in the first time around.
- Trollbane, on 01/10/2009, -0/+43No no no, there's an old saying in Tenessee. I know it's in Texas; I think it's in Tenessee. It's says Fool me twice, shame on...shame on me. Fool me three times...The-You can't be fooled again.
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -6/+47My government (Ireland) allows your military to refuel at our Airports.
Ireland is a neutral country, it's in our constitution, and they allowed that *****.
When the question of torture came up and the realisation that the US were shipping tortured and about to be tortured victims about, including in our territory, the government said it sought reassurances that no one was being tortured on these flights.
They asked the U.S. Government and they "Nah buddy, it's all cool" and that was it.
They never even demanded to see what/who were on these planes, many now proved to be "rendition" flights.
That was my government's most despicable moment. - IIAmusedII, on 01/10/2009, -4/+44I thought republicans stood for family values. Is torture a family value? Whom would Jesus torture?
Gah, what a bunch of ***** hypocrites! - SeaMowse, on 01/09/2009, -12/+44"The Bush Administration's Most Despicable Act" - shouldn't that be plural?
- rodlaiz, on 01/10/2009, -4/+30What I can't understand is all those idiots still defending Bush, a mass murderer.
- mithrasinvictus, on 01/10/2009, -1/+24Where does not impeaching him rank?
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -4/+27This is not their worst act. The slaughtering of 100s of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians would take that medal. Medal of freeeeeeeedom.
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -12/+34You think W was bad, wait til you get a load of President Jeb in 2012/2016.
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -4/+24I hope someone decides one day that technically you dont have human rights and they waterboard the face off you.
- wirerat1, on 01/10/2009, -7/+27I want to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Peolsi, Feinstein and Co. all charged with war crimes. They dishonored the country and unless the rule of law is carried out, our country will never be right. Justice has to be carried out. My only realistic hope is that none of those bastards can leave this country again.
- valis, on 01/10/2009, -5/+25Step away from the crack ... slowly.
- pigfister, on 01/10/2009, -3/+21Just one most despicable act, i can think of several.
what is a free speech zone exactly, isn't the whole country supposed to be free, land of the brave n free? - grungegbunny, on 01/10/2009, -1/+19He means electing him for a second term after witnessing his failures is worse than the first.
- Rotzooi, on 01/10/2009, -3/+21And to think people assume we will be rid of the Republicans' policies when Obama becomes President. No chance - even if Obama wanted to, there are thousands of evangelical partisan hacks in places of power, just waiting for the next Republican President, and in the mean time, obstructing real progress.
- TigerStar337, on 01/10/2009, -1/+18What?? In 2000, Bush didn't win the election. Al Gore got the most votes...500,000 more votes than Bush.
- chadwalters23, on 01/09/2009, -0/+16Na gaaa do it. Wouldn't be prudent.
- ZeroCubed, on 01/10/2009, -2/+18They say there's no public cry to have the Bush Administration tried for war crimes. Well how about we give them a cry? Obama said he had his site set up so that we could go on it and tell them what we want, so let's tell them! Come on people, we've been given the tools to demand our government to serve us, let's make this one of top five agendas.
- anonymiau, on 01/10/2009, -2/+18*****. The Geneva Convention makes no discrimination against people out of uniform. And the US signed it freely before Bush broke it.
And "out of uniform fighters" can be used for entire civilian populations. So in your twisted logic, protection from war crimes only applies to soldiers, and not to civilians. - roebeet, on 01/10/2009, -0/+16That never gets old.
- baskingturtles, on 01/10/2009, -4/+19I am so, so happy that these people are no longer in control of the country, even if we must feel their vile influence for years to come.
- grungegbunny, on 01/10/2009, -4/+19Are you sure you are American? I would expect this kind of speech from a fascist strait out of Nazi Germany..
Buried/Blocked. - algaeturd, on 01/10/2009, -2/+16It really freaks me out that more people aren't pissed off by this. Honestly. He's done a lot of ***** things...human rights violations, Geneva act violations, crimes against our country, humanity and the world....but when you get down to it, the torture really was despicable on the lowest level.
Americans don't seem too bothered by it. When we stop acting like humans and start acting like animals, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Let this be it.
This was NOT a war to defend our sovereignty. This was a war of choice and convenience... a country with too much money and too much ego stepping on the tails and throats of another country.
Looks like we won't be starting any random wars anytime soon these days. Americans may have not learned their lessons and the government certainly hasn't but we've no longer the resources to keep slaughtering people for no reason at all.
I guess Israel will take our spot now. - HumanNouveau, on 01/10/2009, -2/+16But most people also would say that for his "failings," he was a brilliant guy. So you have lied but was brilliant vs. lied and was rather less than. I think the Clinton legacy will stay well above Bush's.
- LenBaird, on 01/10/2009, -0/+14That is a mind trick, because to accept a "free speech zone" means that you accept that the 1st Amendment doesn't apply in the rest of the country. It is the same subtle trick as requiring a license or permit to carry or own a gun. It turns a right into a privilege.
- Hypatia42, on 01/10/2009, -0/+14Remember waterboarding? That's torture. America did that, ergo, America did torture.
Incidentally the Geneva convention includes a part about captivity,
Part III, Section 2 of the Geneva convention covers:
the internment of prisoners of war and is broken down into 8 chapters which cover:
General observations (Articles 21–24)
Quarters, food and clothing (Articles 25–28)
Hygiene and medical attention (Articles 29–32)
The treatment of enemy medical personnel and chaplains retained to assist prisoners of war (Article 33)
Religious, intellectual and physical activities (Articles 34–38)
Discipline (Articles 39–42)
Military rank (Articles 43–45)
Transfer of prisoners of war after their arrival in a camp (Articles 46–48)
I think you will find that the things done in Abu Ghraib were specifically done because they are abhorrent under the Muslim religion and breach a number of the Geneva convention's standards. These acts served no constructive purpose for either the captors or captured.
While Americans have suffered at the hands of other inhumane prison masters, that is not a justification to ever return the treatment. We ARE better than that. We can afford our humanity. - chase001, on 01/10/2009, -0/+14...or the second. He wasn't even elected Governor.
- Hypatia42, on 01/10/2009, -0/+14Well, Lincoln declared the suspension of habeas corpus during a CIVIL WAR against people he knew had intimiate and immediately threatening knowledge of American infrastructure and battle plans. But the big difference between then and now is that Lincoln had an active in-country war with clear military lines and a large quantity of on-ground enemy combatants. There were so many 'southern sympathizers' and people suspected of sabotage and so few resources for investigation and trial that people were just rounded up. It was a dark day in America.
Today we only have the taliban: a set of ignorant cave dwelling religious bigots. They are not so numerous that we have to just chuck the bastards into a jail and sort them out later. We have the time, the resources, technology, and reasons to put them through trials. If they are guilty, make a case, if not throw them back. There is no reason to suspend habeas corpus! - chase001, on 01/10/2009, -4/+18Genocide and Crusading for fun and profit.
- DanBoodro, on 01/10/2009, -0/+13You're gonna try to compare Lincoln to Bush?
- Hypatia42, on 01/10/2009, -2/+15We hate them BECAUSE they are acting inhumanely, what sense does it make to respond in an inhumane way?
- esus4, on 01/10/2009, -2/+14The Germans who ordered the execution of non-uniformed POWs who escaped from a Prisoner of War Camp later made famous by the film "The Great Escape" were prosecuted by the allies after the war.
One of the biggest pieces of nonsense put forward by the Bushies and their supporters were that all they needed to do was find loopholes in the Geneva Convention.
There are standards beyond Geneva:
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/International_la ... - cJw314, on 01/10/2009, -4/+16I mentioned this to a friend and she said, "We'd never vote in another Bush - not after was Dubya's done..."
I replied, "Well, we didn't vote in Dubya, either."
Besides, isn't the world ending in 2012? - illinoise89, on 01/10/2009, -1/+12Damn, don't be so dramatic. This isn't an episode of 24. No one is defending terrorists here, we're defending decency and doing what is right. If you can't understand why torturing anyone under any circumstance is wrong then I pity you.
- JPHR, on 01/10/2009, -1/+12Most despicable runner up: Knowingly misleading the US and the international community into invading Iraq causing the death of 4200+ and maiming many more US soldiers for life, killing somewher up to 100.000 Iraqis earns the Bush clan a prosecution for murder (Vincent Bugliosi). Typical Bush/Neocon: first WMD, then link Osama-Housein, lately freeing 50 million Iraqis, but still not the real reasons like for instance:
trying to grab oil, winning the 2004 elections by having an external enemy, egomaniac outperforming his dad, warmongering lord Farquad type of compensation for a draft dodger etc. - robflm256, on 01/10/2009, -0/+11http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
:-) - mithrasinvictus, on 01/10/2009, -5/+16If the bush administration wants to renegotiate the geneva convention they should have tried that. Such a treaty is too important to unilaterally "re-interpret"
Knowing exactly to what (contractually defined) limits your elective interrogation will go is not the same as the real thing.
You can hardly call yourself morally superior if you are proud your techniques are no worse than your enemy's.
The SERE connection is made more clear in the linked article:
"Richard Shiffren, a former deputy general counsel at the Pentagon dealing with intelligence, explained that the U.S. military lacked expertise in interrogation after 9/11, but was desperate to extract intelligence from prisoners captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan. Instead of consulting the FBI — an agency with long experience in conducting effective interrogations using lawful methods — the Pentagon opted to use the enemy tactics taught in the SERE program. Many of those have since been found to be illegal. " - Hypatia42, on 01/10/2009, -1/+12From the article you apparently didn't read:
"It should be noted that there was, and is, no evidence that these techniques actually work. Experienced military and FBI interrogators believe that torture leads, more often than not, to fabricated confessions. Patient, persistent questioning using subtle psychological carrots and sticks is the surest way to get actionable information." - illinoise89, on 01/10/2009, -2/+12Too bad we didn't get the "popularity contest" winner in 2000.
- RoflCoptah, on 01/10/2009, -0/+10"Hate America First"
who really loves america more:
a. person who blindly goes along with his/her government
b. person who loves it enough to see it has flaws and criticizes it - Loonacy, on 01/10/2009, -1/+11It'd like to think we don't torture because it's barbaric and wrong, not because we signed a piece of paper saying we won't.
- Hypatia42, on 01/10/2009, -0/+10People are concerned about waterboarding, stress positioning, psychological intimidation, and sleep deprivation of prisoners because it is a petty, pathetic, and unnecessary means of fanning the flames of foreign hatred against this country. Plus, it produces nothing. We already have the bastard in a jail, very little intel a prisoner has is useful after one week, what the hell is the point of torturing? All it does is bait the previously friendly or neutral middle-eastern rural populations into thinking it is their job to kill Americans. People without worldly experience will hear of Americans first as 'torturers' rather than liberators. Torture is inefficient, it does not produce reliable intelligence and encourages our enemies to reciprocate on their prisoners.
Secondly, we invaded that stupid country because the American public was told they were an imminent threat. There are a lot of oppresed people living with bad government who deserve freedom. Are you overly thrilled with the governments in North Korea, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Cuba, or Libya? No? Remember, we had already invaded Afghanistan and the job of bringing THOSE oppressed people was not yet done when we turned to Iraq. I think Americans, liberal or otherwise, are rightfully outraged about being lied to because if the American government is willing to intentionally deceive us about why our citizens 'need' to go and die on foreign soil than we do not have freedom in THIS country. If the government frequently manipulate the people into doing something for its own private reasons, how can the people possibly have 'freedom?'
No liberal hates this country, but there is no shortage to disgust with this disgraceful republican administration.
But it would seem critical thinking skills are not in the republican repertoire. - inactive, on 01/10/2009, -3/+13Throw a shoe on bush!
- TheSkunkMonkey, on 01/10/2009, -3/+13There's a big difference between someone that is an unwilling participant vs. someone that has given explicit permission to be treated in a certain way.
If you agree to let me punch you in the face within set guidelines (i.e. boxing) it's not a problem nor illegal. If I just started punching you in the face out of the blue, regardless of the reason, you can call the police and have me arrested for assault.
The Geneva Convention set up the rules for dealing with POWs and if we don't follow them you can EXPECT our enemies to torture our soldiers and we will have no recourse in international community nor right to claim the moral high ground. If the US wants to be able to bring our enemies up for the war crime of torture, we must never use it for any reason.
Bush has admittedly broken this treaty in an act of treason that will guarantee than whenever our fine men and women in uniform are taken prisoner by our enemies, they WILL be tortured. This is probably the most insidious legacy the Bush presidency will leave for our military. - c0xy, on 01/10/2009, -1/+11You stupid hysterical coward. Calm down, you're perfectly safe getting fat in front of your tv. You don't need to torture anyone to keep doing that.
If you just like the thought of hurting people for its own sake because you're a bloodthirsty ***** who isn't fit to be part of the human race, then that's another matter. - hawkeye17, on 01/10/2009, -2/+12Ladies and gentleman, I give you the thinking of a sociopath. Torture has been proven time and again to simply not produce good results and is counterproductive. The only reason to use it at all is cruelty and fear because it just makes the war on terror more difficult to win. We're better than that in America...or we used to be. The pro-torture cavemen need to grow up.
"enemy combatants/non GC-signers aren't legally granted protection. Torture them till they break" -
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