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- Himself, on 03/15/2008, -0/+5Law is founded on Justice. Justice has no meaning in moral relativism.
... - iucraigmc, on 03/14/2008, -2/+6I appreciate his attempt at translating God's laws into laws that the world will understand and embrace. However, God himself said those without him will not understand or fully embrace his laws. It unfortunately would be self defeating. Without the changing of hearts only changing laws is a prescriptive solution to the overall problem. We need God to change the hearts of men and the laws will change themselves.
Everything Jesus taught was a paradox, which is why it is difficult for those without him to understand. To gain life you must give it up, to make peace with your enemies you must love them no matter what, to obtain sexual satisfaction you must only have it with one person, to find happiness you must give up a pleasure driven lifestyle... etc.. etc.. - inactive, on 03/16/2008, -2/+4Funny that the Hebrews didn't do too badly with the concept. It looks like your statement is unsupported by history. Try again.
- Ramble, on 03/16/2008, -2/+4One fuzzy example from history for you, and all modern legal systems in the world for me. Try again.
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -1/+3Yes, you're right. We should remove murder laws, based on the concept of "thou shalt not murder" right away. I trust you'll lead the charge on this one?
- GodzGurl59, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2Many of God's laws have already been transposed into our laws: do not commit murder comes to mind! do no covet that which belongs to your neighbors, which paired with do not steal, does very well!
Above you see murder in the first degree and burglary. We have laws against those.
Many states have laws against adultery, which tears up families, though those are not enforced. True change comes through change of heart though and this is accomplished by the Word of God and salvation. The laws outlined above are for the wicked....we as Christians should not be breaking any of them! LOL!
Great job Jon. - alkajazz, on 03/25/2008, -0/+1 1. To refrain from destroying living beings.
2. To refrain from stealing.
3. To refrain from sexual misconduct (adultery, rape, etc.).
4. To refrain from false speech (lying).
5. To refrain from intoxicants, which lead to heedlessness.
The noble eight fold path? - blessedwith6, on 03/14/2008, -2/+2Except the one you have made for yourself.
- ThirstyJon, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1Hello Ramble. I don't think you understand the idea. I am not saying that we make the Bible the Civil Law. I am saying that we would be unwise to disregard the only time in History we have Authoritative Written Record of God creating a Civil Government. I am convinced that we are not "under the law" (New Testtament Christianity), but the law is wisdom from God. We can study His Law, discern His Heart and Wisdom, and be inspired in our own Civil Lawmaking by the wisdom and ideas behind God's Civil Laws for Israel. I have no problem with sorting out "religious" laws from "civil" laws because we are NOT ancient Israel. We are America (or wherever you are from.
So we don't need to ban cutting the hair on the side of your head. But we can search for info on how God sorted out disputes, enforced Civil Peace, and provided a Healthy Society.
I want to know His thoughts on the matter and then humbly (I hope) present those thoughts to the world. The Bible talks about God's laws being written on the hearts of the "gentiles." People know God's laws. They are "common sense." (although not so "common") God reveled His Wisdom for us to discover and understand, just like we discover and understand the Created Natural Universe.
:-)
ThirstyJon - ThirstyJon, on 03/20/2008, -1/+1I don't think I understand your point here Ramble. What do you mean by this comment?
- Stevanoski, on 03/16/2008, -2/+1The first five Commandments deal with Man's relationship to God, the last five with Mans relationship to Man.
- GodzGurl59, on 03/14/2008, -2/+1Then you have no worries,eh? go on about your business and leave us to our "delusion." When you get close to death, with your last breath.............perhaps you will be found correct..........or perhaps you will be found wrong. But by then it will be too late and you will have chosen, for all eternity, to dwell in hell.......the lake of fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. Your choice. Carry on!
- Ramble, on 03/15/2008, -6/+3I strongly disagree, the moral tennants of the Bible - the Ten Commandments mostly deal with 'religious crimes', for example do not worship an idol. Only two are actually implemented in criminal law and those two are common sense laws and are in every single legal system in the world.
The day a religious document becomes the basis for law is the day justice breaks down. - inactive, on 03/14/2008, -14/+2There is no god.


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