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- ScoobyG, on 02/05/2009, -20/+98I love the line at the bottom: "The writer is the president of the United States." :-)
- kp998, on 02/05/2009, -26/+88Tell McCain he lost.
- Alheithinn, on 02/05/2009, -26/+86Kp998, ScoobyG, I agree. And I loved the bottom line too. The Republicans DO seem to be unaware that they lost. If they get the bill they want, we might as well forget about elections because they don't make any difference. All the talk about bipartisanship, all the accusations against the Democrats in Congress during the Bush years - hypocrisy. When the shoes on the other foot, they play partisan politics.
This is my favorite part of the piece:
In recent days, there have been misguided criticisms of this plan that echo the failed theories that helped lead us into this crisis -- the notion that tax cuts alone will solve all our problems; that we can meet our enormous tests with half-steps and piecemeal measures; that we can ignore fundamental challenges such as energy independence and the high cost of health care and still expect our economy and our country to thrive.
I reject these theories, and so did the American people when they went to the polls in November and voted resoundingly for change. They know that we have tried it those ways for too long. And because we have, our health-care costs still rise faster than inflation. Our dependence on foreign oil still threatens our economy and our security. Our children still study in schools that put them at a disadvantage. We've seen the tragic consequences when our bridges crumble and our levees fail.
"I reject these theories AND SO DID THE AMERICAN PEOPLE."
Exactly. Somebody please remind the Republicans in the Senate of this little detail. - ScoobyG, on 02/05/2009, -12/+43Tell *all* the Reps they lost.
- yarcod, on 02/05/2009, -18/+47At the risk of being blind buried, I'd like to point out that they are using fear to pass this bill just like fear was used to pass the patriot act.
"If you don't join our side, the world will crumble"
Truth is, there is plenty of legitimate criticism to this bill, no matter how scary they make a no vote sound. - freedomjoe, on 02/05/2009, -37/+65OH, President Obama....You amaze me.
Your intelligence and the dignity with which you comport yourself make me so proud of you and this country for electing you.
THANK YOU.
A brilliant man who can write like Lincoln. We are so lucky...we got the guy we needed to lead us out of this mess. - Corrosionx, on 02/06/2009, -1/+23Just because you reject a theory doesn't mean it's not true. Austrian economics have been dead on in predicting this and past crisis, but their solutions doesn't require politicians to pose as heroes, they don't give more power to the state to control enterprise, so politicians don't want to hear it.
The rest of the people? Simply economically illiterate. - woodsjransom, on 02/05/2009, -24/+46This President has been at work since January 21st, has he had a day off yet? As we old folks like to say he is one bad mamma jamma. I will continue to agitate, organize and educate as best I can. This has got to work.
- inactive, on 02/05/2009, -2/+23Great post Alheithinn! Thanks!
- texasred54, on 02/05/2009, -33/+52The Senate lines are jammed but keep trying. Call toll free 1-866-544-7573. Connect to your Senator. We must support Obama. This is just the first step in change. We must not falter.
- nihilville, on 02/05/2009, -19/+38Sooner or later Obama will have to stop reaching out to those who care more about partisan politics than they do about the fate of our nation. I'm glad that he has calmly yet unequivocally started to fight back, and the maturity with which he has handled the opposition is a breath of fresh air compared to the past 8 years, but these urgent times demand definitive action. I fear the path America has demanded will be needlessly and fatally diluted to placate those whose policies got us into this colossal mess in the first place.
- elTito, on 02/06/2009, -14/+33Wow, Dear Leader has his minions out in force on this one doesn't he?
I read a quote the other day to the effect of "I've been around long enough to know that when someone tells me I must decide NOW, they're probably trying to screw me."
Yeah, pretty much. - Killroy1971, on 02/06/2009, -7/+26So the change we voted for was this:
More runaway federal debt, in spite of the fact that debt is what the Dems were railing against for the last 8 years.
2 Senate votes separating our government from Democractic debate and single party monotone.
The Federal government owns significant portions of the financial industry. In post-industrial nations, this is akin to siezing the means of production.
Where will this lead? - elonkytroot, on 02/06/2009, -20/+39WOW. Whoever thought Earth would face a real-life zombie invasion. You people have got to be kidding me--barely a single comment questioning our lord Obama, who's bill of nearly all pointless and reckless spending will add another nail to the coffin of America's recovery.
America needs to CUT BACK across the board, not spend almost another TRILLION out of nowhere. We're in this crisis for perpetuating a state of imaginary wealth, and cannot leave by doing the same thing.
Wow. Just wow. Go ahead, bury me for disagreeing. God forbid we allow a counter argument to reach anyone. - inactive, on 02/05/2009, -24/+41It so nice to have a smart President! The republicans need to stop playing games, and McCain- does he even know the election is over, and he lost...
- TGothe, on 02/06/2009, -7/+24It's a completely pork laden spending bill, regardless of whatever partisan bickering you want to indulge in. How is spending billions of dollars on a renovation of the Smithsonian, fixing bike trails, funding the National Endowment for the Arts, or AIDS research going to kick start the economy?
I consider myself a liberal who voted for Barack Obama, but this entire "stimulus package" flies in the face of common sense. It's an absolute lie and a robbery of the American people from both sides of the aisle in an attempt to appease their constituencies at the expense of you, your children, and your grandchildren.
The money in this bill will not go a substantial way towards creating renewable energy sources or creating better schools for our children. There is already a mechanism in place within the free market to create new research and development in the field of clean energy, but instead of investing in those sectors we're opting for the most inefficient route possible by creating a federal bureaucracy to handle it. The money in this bill isn't going to remodel our education system, or change the standards we use to judge it's success. Instead we're just throwing money at a system that is already broken and calling it a day.
The current crisis isn't just a product of poor decision making on behalf of GW Bush, though he certainly played a roll. Hardline democrats tend to ignore that the conditions that went into creating both the credit and housing crisis began to take form during Bill Clintons presidency.
tl;dr Stop acting like the blood isn't on your hands too and use some common sense instead of trying to win the game. - superkendall, on 02/06/2009, -13/+29The person the nation elected said he was going to reduce spending.
Now we are about to see the national debt double.
You may have won, that doesn't automatically make you right, nor does it mean you are doing the will of the people when you try to push through a bill as fast as you can that not even 40% of people approve of. That, sir, is partisanship at its worst. - jh4rms, on 02/05/2009, -22/+38oh my brainwashed diggers
- MorganMghee, on 02/05/2009, -6/+20Remind them they represent their constituents, not just their party. The luxury of partisan politics is only affordable in good times.
- geoffg, on 02/06/2009, -8/+22The bill can pass without the Republicans, it's the Democrats that don't support it that Obama needs. I haven't heard one person on Digg say with confidence that they support the bill, instead it's just more "it's the evil Republicans fault" nonsense.
Change we can believe in. - Kaster, on 02/06/2009, -18/+32I'm more and more amazed everyday at how brainwashed you sheep are.
- texasred54, on 02/05/2009, -6/+20Thank you fellow, older agitator!
Let's help this young whippersnapper. - awesometastic1, on 02/06/2009, -6/+19I know i'm going to get dugg down here because of all the Obama circle jerking that's going on here (note i voted for him; but mostly because Paul was not running and McCain sucked). But the economic stimulus package costing upwards of 1 trillion dollars (out of thin air i might add) is going to work out for us about as good as the last 700 billion stimulus package generated out of thin air worked. It's time to actually try something NEW, instead of just saying you are doing something new, but actually doing exactly what was done before and failed: Stop treating the symptoms and start actually treating the source of the problem.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view ... - texasred54, on 02/05/2009, -24/+36Well, if the Republicans want to play jam the phones...then we will jam the streets.
We had a peaceful revolution when we elected Obama. Does not have to stay that way.
Try calling the Senators in state offices. - Barackalypse, on 02/06/2009, -5/+16Tell Obama just because he won doesn't mean people agree with what he wants to do:
"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The recent debate over the nearly $900 billion economic stimulus plan and revelations of tax problems by three Obama administration appointees have voters angrily jamming phone lines on Capitol Hill to air their frustrations to their elected representatives."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/04/voter.anger ... - elTito, on 02/06/2009, -13/+23You just made me throw up a little.
- homercles337, on 02/05/2009, -6/+16Repugs dont listen. In fact, there is some repug asshat on NPR right now talking about tax-cuts and how Obama's plan is a spending bill not a stimulus bill. WTF?!
- Barackalypse, on 02/06/2009, -3/+12Obama seems out of touch with the amount of anger being generated by his actions:
"Unhappy voters jam Capitol Hill phone lines. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The recent debate over the nearly $900 billion economic stimulus plan and revelations of tax problems by three Obama administration appointees have voters angrily jamming phone lines on Capitol Hill to air their frustrations to their elected representatives."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/04/voter.anger ... - inactive, on 02/06/2009, -1/+10So how does that comment go against this new bill? Because Bush ***** us, it's okay for Obama to ***** us too?
- bamw69, on 02/06/2009, -0/+9Then why is such a small percentage of the funding allocated for 2009? Wouldn't you think the immediate future is where the money should be invested?
If we are in such dire straits then why hold the majority of the money back for years? A recession will usually right itself in a shorter time frame than this bill is meant to repair it.
This is fear mongering at its best. - inactive, on 02/05/2009, -17/+26Will someone PLEASE tell Jerome Corsi and Joe Farah to stop calling and jamming the lines! Real live "humans" want to lend and give their support.... ;-)
- inactive, on 02/06/2009, -7/+16"A brilliant man who can write like Lincoln"
At this point it's good just to have a man who can write. - NomortaL1, on 02/06/2009, -3/+11this isnt a republican vs democratic game. democratics against this bill are many as well!
- RonPauls, on 02/06/2009, -1/+9Exactly
- RonPauls, on 02/06/2009, -14/+22Buried cause Obama is a freakin idiot. If you want to punish banks, let them go bankrupt. Don't interfere in private business. It's a bad precedent.
www.campaignforliberty.com FOR FREEDOM - dgreaney, on 02/06/2009, -7/+15Actually, we don't need to cut back "across the board." We need to stop doing things which are wasteful and counterproductive, like invading countries which did not and were not honestly thought to threaten us, and allocate our money to productive uses, such as restoring crumbling infrastructure elements such as dams and levees whose failure will cost far more than their maintenance. That would save money, lives and property and generate employment.
- inactive, on 02/06/2009, -2/+10Look, all I know is that if I have 10,000 in debt, adding another 10,000 in debt is probably the wrong course of action if I'm trying to bring relief to my financial crisis....
- Acrobeles, on 02/06/2009, -0/+8Yup. It is his job to lead the country, not the Democratic party. If he didn't keep reaching out, he'd be too much like Bush. If he keeps reaching out and Republicans can't learn how to seek common ground, they risk being labeled the party of "no", just like the democrats were for a long time. This doesn't help the republicans, and it doesn't help the U.S.
- Swivelstick, on 02/06/2009, -0/+8"The luxury of partisan politics is only affordable in good times."
That is incorrect on so many levels as partisan politics is what created the current situation. It is seeing the system as only 2 party that is the larger issue. - superkendall, on 02/06/2009, -3/+11It's not the right. It's the right, the center, and the middle, and some people on the left tired of a giant national debt.
It is us INDIVIDUALS who are swamping phones telling senators to please not place our country in further debt, to chase the illusion the government really can spend its way out of a recession. - minimitable, on 02/06/2009, -5/+12ummm, you do realize that you're a dumbass? ...he does write his own speeches and his intelligence is self evident.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1 ...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/84756/output/print
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama - yarcod, on 02/06/2009, -0/+6The crisis is real, yes, but to push through legislation without legitimate debate is where the fear mongering comes in. "This needs to be done now" and "The sky is falling" is not a reasonable response to the concerns several people, and over 60% of the public have about this bill.
Your fears are real, but there's no evidence this stimulus package will work or it could even make the crisis worse. Now, I'm not going to say that the general public, or the senators debating this bill are experts in the area of macroeconomics, but Keynes us not without his critics. So it's understandable that we want the government to hurry up and do something about this crisis, but there is growing support that the steps they are taking are the same steps that got us into this mess. I, for one, don't want this crisis made worse by patriot act style legislation. - Striker101, on 02/06/2009, -1/+7I am not either Republican or Democrat because both have lost any sense of Reason and Morality.
This entire thread is pure brainless diatribe, on both sides.
Adding more debt to our already bankrupt country will only make this ongoing collapse deeper into Depression and a new Dark Age. Obama's stimulus will help make it worse, just as Bush's stimulus and bailout pushed our economy over the edge to the point of no return. The Carter/Clinton CRA's along with Fed manipulation kick-started this collapse. It really began with the Fed and then FDR collectivism.
If you people really hope to ever return from the Dark Ages someday, learn the basics of morality, freedom and individual choice. My...
http:/morality101.net
(along with it's blogger) contains what you must grasp. It's not that difficult. - bamw69, on 02/06/2009, -1/+7You obviously don't know it but this country isn't controlled by just one man.The 'last guy' didn't ***** ***** up all by himself, he had plenty of help from both sides of the isle.
If President Obama really wanted to "*****" this country he would start by standing up to congress and their ***** up plan.
But just like always, he will vote along party lines.
Do you really think this stimulus plan, if passed, will help the dems get a fillibuster proof majority?
Man, wake the ***** up pal! - superkendall, on 02/06/2009, -4/+10I've been trying all day but all the other people aghast at the giant pork bill keep hogging up the line.
- jsmith39, on 02/06/2009, -0/+6"That is incorrect on so many levels as partisan politics is what created the current situation. It is seeing the system as only 2 party that is the larger issue."
No doubt.. but we can't fix that this week, we can start fixing other problems right now and shelf this 2 party political problem until the next election cycle (2 years) and address it then. - ironhide, on 02/06/2009, -9/+15That's not exactly a convincing argument.
- dgreaney, on 02/06/2009, -1/+7Why just eligible voters? If we're being literal, shouldn't we simply include all "American people". Why do you want to disenfranchise babies?
- pantsperch, on 02/06/2009, -0/+5Not to mention people who didn't vote can go ***** themselves.
- jsmith39, on 02/06/2009, -1/+6At least he was legitimately elected by American citizens...
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