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- Biscuitz, on 02/21/2009, -8/+115Wow.
I don't know whether to call *****, and tell people to put on their big kid pants, or agree.
Although, it's not just black people that are discriminated against either. When I lived in Daytona Beach near the track. That was the first time in my life that I ever felt like a minority. The people there (mostly to all black community) were horribly rude to people like me. In short, I've never done anything to anyone, and did not deserve to be treated like I did whenever I would go grocery shopping. It would be like me, having a bad experience with a black person, and blaming them all. It's *****.
I got treated like *****, purely because I am white, and I didn't do anything to get that sort of treatment.
How do I know I was being treated differently, and not just saying it?
I went to Albertson's one day, I was in line and there was a black lady in front of me, and the cashier was also a black lady. The cashier was running the lady in front of me up, happy, smiling, cheery. Very nice all around.
Until she got to me. It was like night and day mood change, or multiple personality at it's finest. That was the first time I'd ever been treated that way, for being white. After that I noticed it more and more, every time I was out. - RonPauls, on 02/21/2009, -15/+109Uhhh white/asian people are often the ones who are discriminated against with affirmative action and similar programs
Anyway, by saying "a nation of cowards" isn't that discriminatory? You are judging a collective as an entity, when the only relevant entity is individuals.
Racist will persist until people realize that only individuals have rights. Collectives and groups do not have rights. - BassMastr, on 02/21/2009, -19/+92Sadly it's hard to address an issue that is total *****. It's hard to take a minority group seriously when they scream racism when they are just as if not more racist than the people they are bitching about. If white people talked about being white the way black people talk about being black...we would be considered racist. There is a double standard that exists and totally undermines black peoples argument of racsim. If you want to bitch about racism...you can't be rascist yourself.
Do people ever think that people aren't being rude to you b/c your race but maybe it's your attitude and your "I'm black so you better be extra nice to me" attitude. - GalacticXenu, on 02/22/2009, -5/+74As the previous commenters show, it's OK for blacks to paint all white people with a broad brush because of the existence of racism, but it's NOT okay for a white person to do so, because... that would be racism.
Yeah, OK... - inactive, on 02/21/2009, -0/+63Aw, *****. This is going to be a very long, very long thread.
- Doc123, on 02/22/2009, -7/+62Blame whitey is sooo 1980s
- PoizonFrog, on 02/21/2009, -8/+60I would throw it back to Mr. Holder and ask what specifically are his plans for dealing with youth gangs, as they are the primary impediment to advancing racial harmony.
I've seen figures that say young black males make up 6% of the population but commit half the murders. - Ymeg, on 02/21/2009, -10/+62Yeah, yeah, we get it. White people are evil racists are blacks are horribly oppressed.
- Madrigalian, on 02/21/2009, -26/+77Most whites?!?
Most of the racist pieces of ***** I have ever met have been black. So stick that in your black heritage ass and smoke it. - carl25, on 02/22/2009, -7/+52i'm brown and i think white people are discriminated against the most, don't give them ***** or judge them based on what ignorant ancestors did a long time ago, they aren't the same person and they won't be.
i've always had a problem with places/institutes like negro college fund or latino fund or just other stupid organizations like that, do they think they are the only ***** race that has problems or who have families that struggle
also from clerks 2
saying the n word is racist only when you aren't black ?
What the ***** is more racist than telling someone they can't use a word based on their goddamn skin color
/rant
take your racism garbage and shove it up your ass and into your intestines - inactive, on 02/21/2009, -11/+53If you're going to use statistics at least provide sources. According to FBI UCR, blacks are incredibly disproportionate when it comes to murders committing nearly half, but 70% of all crimes are committed by whites. Most murders are intraracial meaning blk on blk, wht on wht, etc. Also consider there are roughly 16,204 murders per year but what if counted deaths from drunk driving as murder which is about 16,005. A study, sponsored by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and conducted by the Gallup Organization, found that white drivers are responsible for 84 percent of all drunk-driving cases, which logically means they are responsible for most of the deaths even though they only account for 77 percent of road trips. The study also found that blacks make up 9 percent of the driving-age population, but account for only 5 percent of all drunk-driving cases.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_02/html/web/arrested/0 ... year 2002
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/persons_arrested/ta ... year 2004 scroll down to race
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_43.html - year 2005
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_43.html - year 2006
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_43.html - year 2007 - EatingPaste, on 02/21/2009, -20/+61If whites are a nation of cowards for not wanting to talk about race does that make blacks a nation of bitches for always bitching about it?
- Nickolassc, on 02/22/2009, -5/+42That's been my experience too. A lot of African Americans blame whites for their position in life, and to some extent it's justified, but blaming someone for your problems doesn't solve them, it breeds bitterness and racism.
The reason whites don't want to talk about race is because they are automatically called racists for saying something offensive towards another skin color.
For example, as a white person would I be safe driving through East Saint Louis at night?
Yeah, it's offensive and some will bury me for saying it, and that is why whites don't want to talk about race. - Whackly, on 02/22/2009, -2/+39Hey everybody! Look who has misplaced anger!
- Fallout911, on 02/22/2009, -2/+37Tell that to the idiots that say that there are no racist black people.
- inactive, on 02/22/2009, -5/+38Step 1 : Write an article.
Step 2 : Blame the white man.
Step 3 : ????
Step 4 : Profit! - BassMastr, on 02/21/2009, -10/+41Yes people will ALWAYS dislike people for one reason of another whether it be religion, color or even social class. You can always find hate when you go out of your way to look for it. We have a black man in the highest office on the planet and he was put there with the help of white people too. I just have one thing to say to those who keep screaming racism everywhere they go...
TAKE YOU RACE CARD AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR RASICT ASS
Is it just me or is the ones who scream rasicm tend to be the most racist? - scoottie, on 02/22/2009, -5/+32Most whites? Most blacks also. If a discussion on race doesnt end in whitey being evil and the black man oppressed its considered racist. If a person hires a white cuz of his race its racist but if you hire a black guy cuz he's black then its good. People are drooling over the first black president ... who the ***** cares if he is black, white, brown or purple he will be just as bad or just as good no matter what race he is
- videodroner, on 02/21/2009, -6/+32Exactly! People will always be racist up to a certain point. If I saw a group of black men all thugged out and looking menacing, I would cross the street. I would also do the same if that group was composed of thugged out white men. It's basic instinct to be a little cautious when we have scary statistics like that about a specific group.
- ralph12c41, on 02/21/2009, -7/+32What is Eric Holder going to do about the problem other than inject race into the national dialogue at every chance? What a collection of victims we have on our hands. This new administration is more 'lip" than substance based on their first few weeks in power. Is this the change they have been waiting for? Obama and his crew are so over exposed it's pathetic. That sound you hear all across the country is the "mute" button.
- inactive, on 02/21/2009, -3/+26I would like to think most people are not truly racists, we all have our prejudices and what are prejudices but human predisposition for tribalism. In a nation of 210 million whites and 40 million blacks, even if every black person was a hardcore racist(which we know is not true) you still think there would be more black racists than white?
- manova, on 02/22/2009, -1/+22I'll always remember back in high school when a guidance counselor was explaining to a group of us about the PSATs. She told the black students to make sure they check the box so they were considered for the achievement award (which needs a lower score than the merit awards). Right then, one of my classmates, who was black and female, jumped up and said, "Are you trying to tell me that I am not as smart as the whites!" The counselor had nothing to say.
On the other hand, she got accepted into Duke (while graduating around #20) and our valedictorian (white male) did not. He had to settle on Hopkins. - Kiljoy001, on 02/22/2009, -0/+20As a black man I don't consider the above comment racist not at all... it's the damn truth, a lot of people of my persuasion give up the 'fight' before even starts. They make light of education, engage in self destructive activities and are quick to blame someone else for their lack of perspective. To me it's a cultural thing - somehow the dumber, baser things in life are quite frankly the over all theme in today's contemporary African American culture. Its a damn shame if you ask me. Granted not every black person on the street is a ignorant thug, drug peddling, idiot - but there are just way too many of them to be a 'passing stereotype'
- inactive, on 02/22/2009, -5/+25Blacks are 3 times more likely to commit crimes than whites. I therefore am 3 times more suspicious of blacks than whites. I lived in the "hood" for years, chilled with many great blacks, and realize that their mentality and culture is what keeps them there. I've seen blacks get beat by the cops for no reason, and when you treat someone like a criminal they quickly become one. The problem is that for every hard-working black person there's a lazy criminal that acts rude and is racist. When I lived in the "hood" a bunch of blacks even store clerks asked what a "cracker" and a "whitey" was doin in their store. It was ***** ridiculous, and until we legalize drugs and stop handing out welfare ***** won't change, society created their ghetto culture.
- mwrl, on 02/21/2009, -15/+35I have to agree with many of the posters. Almost any true racist (someone who acts on their beliefs) that I have been around have been black. There might be a very low rate of white racists but many are all talk and given the chance find they don't harbor true racism.
- DeusNova, on 02/22/2009, -5/+24This article is retarded, I don't harbor any racial prejudice towards blacks(African American is too PC) whatsoever. I think a lot of people are afraid to admit that they're racist but they try to act nice in front of black people to hide it.
I understand that my race did horrible stuff to the blacks way back when and I'm shameful of my ancestors for doing horrible stuff however to get mad at a white person who has nothing against black people at all is stupid. 98% of black people I met weren't ***** to me whatsoever, I guess it's how you come off. Maybe because you should treat black people the same way as your white friends without afraid of being racist. - inactive, on 02/21/2009, -9/+27Studies by the Labor Department have shown that the largest group to benefit from Affirmative Action has been white women.
- pintomp3, on 02/22/2009, -5/+23That's because most diggers are angry white males.
- rotundo, on 02/22/2009, -2/+20I think that's the problem -- "white people" didn't do anything to anyone: a bunch of people who are white may have been *****, but there were some who were not.
I swear, as a white guy, I haven't given anyone ***** for their race. So I don't deserve to be punished for my race. The whole idea of "black people did this" or "while people did this" or "hispanic people did this" is ridiculous, no matter what the particular accusation is.
People are individuals, and we shouldn't blame anyone for the actions of someone else who happens to share some tiny bit of genetic code. Whether we're blaming them for crime or racism or whatever. - neuroticsquirrl, on 02/22/2009, -8/+26You know what? No one ever seems to compare Asians to blacks. You know that they were shipped in like crazy after slavery was legalized so people could have cheap replacements for black labor? (This was before Asians were blocked from American shores, of course.) They faced similar amounts of discrimination and were equally penniless. But they managed to make it. Compare the current Asian stereotype to the current black stereotype.
Just thought I'd point that out. - somedoya, on 02/22/2009, -17/+34The only people being discriminated against these days are white people.
Who the ***** dedicates and entire MONTH to a race? Black people. If you tried to start a white history month, you'd NEVER hear the end of it. What language is taking over as the predominate language in much of the United States? Spanish, the national language of Mexico. If you were to fight this you'd be called a racist, toward Mexicans (most of which shouldn't be here to begin with). And, now there's even jobs that require you to know Spanish. Then there's the schools, try getting financial aid as a middle class white person these days, especially a middle class white male. It's practically impossible.
Who is becoming a minority in the United States? White people.
So you know what I have to say about it? If you ***** people really want to be EQUAL get rid of BET, get rid of Black History Month, learn ***** english, get a god damn job, and stop leeching off the ***** government for everything. Also, actually try to better yourself instead of blaming everything on ***** race. - rotundo, on 02/22/2009, -4/+21As a white guy, I can be safely dismissed. But here's my sense: everyone runs into a few ***** every day. If you're white like me you think "wow, that person is an *****", if you're black (or some other minority), it's pretty easy to think "wow, that person is racist".
I don't know what lies in the heart of every man. But I think that there's plenty of situations where it feels like racism but it's actually just people being their normal douche-y self.
There are some percentage of truly racist people out there, but generally speaking I think most folks try to give everyone a fair shake. YMMV. - Fallout911, on 02/22/2009, -6/+22So pretty much say "yessu yes maam" and walk away while they're calling him white boy?
***** that I punched a redneck in the face for calling me a spick.
You should be able to kick any ***** ass for calling you a white boy. - BassMastr, on 02/22/2009, -4/+20If you don't learn the language of the country you live in then it's no one's fault but your own. There is always an excuse...
- Pirate45, on 02/22/2009, -4/+20If we knew then what we know now, we would have picked our own damn cotton. Jus' sayin...
- EatingPaste, on 02/22/2009, -5/+20I find the level of white self-righteousness here quite refreshing considering how much black self-righteousness that I have to put up with in real world
- Nickolassc, on 02/22/2009, -4/+19"Is it just me or is the ones who scream rasicm tend to be the most racist?"
That's exactly it. Race pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson need to racism industry to survive.
The least racist people are the ones who don't talk about race. They don't think about race, they don't care about race. They have better things to do in life than sit around and blame others for their problems. - rotundo, on 02/22/2009, -2/+17You are correct. But for some reason people are more viscerally afraid of violent crime than white collar crime. I don't know if that is rational or not, but people's most base fear is of being physically attacked.
You don't see horror movies about losing your retirement savings. - PhantomPhoenix, on 02/22/2009, -0/+15Most everybody harbors a hidden or suppressed or subconscious bias, and it's not just between white and black or vice versa.
It's part of being human; it's behavioral. You were raised in a family that looks like you, and so you tend to associate with people that look like you. - dyvvyd, on 02/22/2009, -1/+15Being shameful for the actions of your ancestors is absurd.
You had nothing to do with their actions and therefore should not feel any shame. You can feel disdain for what they may have done in the past but that is it.
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Look at this Dept. of Justice website: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
If blacks make up 14% of the population of the US and yet they commit 52.2 % of the homicides as stated on this page then they do seem to commit a hugely disproportionate number of crimes such as murder.
I was completely unaware of this statistic when I went looking for it.
You can also see that a huge percentage of the homicides blacks are involved in are black on black. - setrajonas, on 02/22/2009, -2/+16I love these threads, they're a great excuse for me to be racist without inhibition.
- mikeymondavi, on 02/22/2009, -2/+16K3rfuffl3: get the racial chip off of your shoulder. Bigotry and reverse bigotry exist, tho i cant find any actual racism in the comment you or Biscuitz said. I didnt see anywhere in the comments where someone expressed genetic superiority of their race over another. So how exactly is someone being racist as you claim they are?
And how typical is the mindset you have? You want to hurt someone because they dont have the same view as you do. Sounds pretty selfish to me. What gives you the right to bring violence to bare against someone who hasnt infringed on your rights to life, liberty and property? - wissler, on 02/22/2009, -7/+20Affirmative action is bald-faced racism, so it's no surprise we haven't eliminated it entirely yet. Welfare doesn't help either.
- curtisag, on 02/22/2009, -6/+19Reality has a racial bias. Ignoring reality is difficult for people. I'm not talking about hate, I'm talking about bias. By any measurement you choose, the races and ethnic groups of the world have differences in talents, culture, crime, intelligence, biology, etc. It's not about skin color, that's only skin deep. The illusion is that we're all the same except for color (that's what you're suppose to believe). The reality is it's ok if there are differences among humans, as long as we treat each other with respect. It's ok that Asians are better at math than the average person. I don't hate Asians because they have a higher IQ in math, it's just a reality I accept. Until people come to terms and accept that races are indeed different, accept that, and move on, nothing much will change in race relations. I'm sure by some people's narrow definition of racism I am prejudiced and/or racist, but I hate no one unless they've earned my hatred.
- mparker21311, on 02/22/2009, -0/+13Yeah, try being a white kid going to inner city public schools where 89% of the school is black. We're the few who understand how racism feels like.
- deema1, on 02/22/2009, -2/+14WRONG!!!
There's also the Amazing Race. Check it out on CBS. -
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