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- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -9/+17Why did the Cuban people overthrow the USA puppet Fulgencio Batista?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista
Why didn't the USA make the perfectly sensible move in 1961 and embrace and recognize the popular revolution? Instead, Kennedy and company decided to drive Cuba into the arms of the Soviet Union. - inactive, on 11/29/2008, -2/+9Compare public health care in Cuba with health care in the USA. Look, the situation in Cuba sucks, but if you get sick you see a doctor there. Try the same thing here in the USA. I know a lot of people from the former Soviet Union. They hated the communist party ... but they really really miss a decent health care system. If I survive into my sixties and if by some miracle can retire I'll take my handful of green pesos that I worked like hell to get and see the doctors in Cuba and teach engineering and english and portuguese and french and russian and arabic. Yo soy un hombre sincero, de donde crece la palma.
- zurama, on 11/28/2008, -5/+12The only thing the US doesn't give Cuba at the moment is credit. The embargo does not include humanitarian aid and food, but yet people are starving. Us provides meat and grains, but yet if you look at current photographs of Cubans today, they look different then they did a few decades ago. They are skinny and sickly looking. We all saw how the Cuban government turned down humanitarian aid from the United States, something that Cubans on the inside are begging for, because they desperately need help!
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+6Shall we compare Castro with Luis Posada Carilles? As far as I know, Castro has not blown an airliner out of the sky with a teenage fencing team on it. Last time I checked, between the Bay of Pigs and Operation Mongoose it seems like the state terrorism of the USA makes the crimes ( and crimes they are indeed ) of the Castro regime look minor indeed.
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -7/+13More USA terrorism against Cuban people:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB153/inde ...
Luis Posada Carriles
Washington D.C. May 18, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted additional documents that show that the CIA had concrete advance intelligence, as early as June 1976, on plans by Cuban exile terrorist groups to bomb a Cubana airliner. The Archive also posted another document that shows that the FBI's attache in Caracas had multiple contacts with one of the Venezuelans who placed the bomb on the plane, and provided him with a visa to the U.S. five days before the bombing, despite suspicions that he was engaged in terrorist activities at the direction of Luis Posada Carriles.
Both documents were featured last night on ABC Nightline's program on Luis Posada Carriles, who was detained in Miami yesterday by Homeland Security.
In addition, the Archive posted the first report to Secretary of State Kissinger from the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research on the bombing of Cubana flight 455. The report noted that a CIA source had overheard Posada prior to the bombing in late September 1976 stating that, "We are going to hit a Cuban airliner." This information was apparently not passed to the CIA until after the plane went down. - inactive, on 11/28/2008, -7/+13USA terrorism against the Cuban people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mongoose
The Cuban Project (also known as Operation Mongoose) is the general name for CIA covert operations and plans developed during the early administration of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. On November 30, 1961 the President authorized aggressive covert operations against the communist government of Fidel Castro in Cuba. The operation was led by Air Force General Edward Lansdale and came into being after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion.
Harvard Historian Jorge Domínguez states that a prime focus of the Kennedy administration was the removal of Fidel Castro from power. To this end it implemented Operation Mongoose, a US program of sabotage and other secret operations against the island.[1]
The goal of the Cuban Project was to "help Cuba overthrow the Communist regime", including its leader Fidel Castro, and aim "for a revolt which can take place in Cuba by October 1962". American policy makers also desired to see "a new government with which the United States can live in peace." Source: U.S., Department of State, FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES 1961-1963, Volume X Cuba, 1961-1962 Washington, DC [1] - inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5And still do well, I surmise, from sucking up to the USA imperialists. Chingados, todos. They still support the terrorist attacks that Luis Posada Carrilles did when he blew up an airliner and killed the Cuban teenage fencing team. Moral relativism is alive and well, even among people who claim to be practicing Catholics.
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5Maybe you should edit the wikipedia entry. As far as scholarship goes, yes it can be done and has been done, but it's more effort than I care to lavish upon digg.
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5How did the cubans feel when CIA terrorist Luis Posada Carriles blew up their airliner and killed their teenage fencing team?
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -2/+7This is what happens when the greedy plutocrats are running things. Some folks may say it goes back to Castro and the Cuban revolution, but I contend it goes back to American imperialism in Cuba and the support for the puppet dictators that have always made life miserable in Cuba ... except for people like Zurama I venture to guess her family benefited handsomely from sucking up to the American imperialists.
- inactive, on 11/29/2008, -0/+5No terrorism? Blowing up airlines full of civilian passengers is not terrorism? Let me check my spanish-english dictionary, maybe we have lost something in the translation.
- zurama, on 11/28/2008, -3/+7and if you ask Cuban where the 4.3 imports are, I can guarantee they don't see it. I sure didn't when I lived there. Only a few at the top get to enjoy the imports. The embargo should stand, because the Cuban government will never share the wealth with the people. The Castro brothers need to step down or just die already so that the people of Cuba can rebuild their Island.
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -3/+6Bueno, y podemos hacer todo esto en español, de acuerdo?
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -6/+9Remember when the USA government turned down humanitarian aid from Cuba after the Katrina catastrophe?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9311876/
Ever try to travel to Cuba as an American citizen? The State department tells me it's a $50,000 fine and jail time. That was some time ago, has it changed?
You might want to study up on the trade embargo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo ...
The United States Embargo Against Cuba (described in Cuba as el bloqueo, Spanish for "the blockade") is a commercial, economic, and financial embargo imposed on the Castro government on February 7, 1962. The embargo was enacted after the Castro government expropriated the properties of United States citizens and corporations (notably those that belonged to the United Fruit Company and the ITT).
The embargo was codified into law in 1992 with the stated purpose of "bringing democracy to the Cuban people", and in fact is entitled the Cuban Democracy Act. In 1996, Congress passed the Helms-Burton Act, which further restricted United States citizens from doing business in or with Cuba, and mandated restrictions on giving public or private assistance to any successor regime in Havana unless and until certain claims against the Cuban government are met. In 1999, U.S. President Bill Clinton modified the trade embargo by requiring that foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies stop trading with Cuba. He also authorized the sale of certain US products to Cuba.
At present, the embargo, which limits American businesses from conducting business with Cuban interests, is still in effect and is the most enduring trade embargo in modern history. Despite the existence of the embargo, the United States is the seventh largest exporter to Cuba (4.3% of Cuba's imports are from the US).[1] - zurama, on 11/28/2008, -0/+3I was 11 years old when it happened and can I still remember it like it was yesterday. As much as I want Cuba to be free, I fail to see how that atrocity helped the plight of the Cuban people. I can't see why a person would want to do something so horrible. That plain was full of 15 and 16 year old athletes for God's sake.
As far as I'm concerned he is a cold blooded murderer and should pay for his crimes!! - x88justy, on 11/28/2008, -3/+6What you described from your memory was a breathtaking scene of loss of human rights.
- Argentian, on 11/30/2008, -2/+3I get to go see a doctor when sick. What the hell you talkin' bout yellowboy? You Lefty types who've so far responded to this, are not even in the real world, unless your goal is to promote thugs and killers like Marti, Fidel and che, and their ilk.
You can digg me down, but I'm spiritually taller than any hole you'd like to throw me in. - inactive, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Your limited education seems to have skipped over the USA terrorist attacks against Cuban children:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada
Not to be critical, but here in the USA they cut education to fund imperial wars. In Cuba, they educate and graduate medical doctors.
Podemos continuar en español si quisiera. - lilamae, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Yeah, the Cubans are so happy with free healthcare there, they climb in boats every day and travel through shark infested waters to go where? To their great oppressor? Is that why they risk their lives and the lives of their children? To commit suicide at their enemies hands?
Janet Reno should fry in hell for Elian Gonzalez's wasted youth. - machinepolitick, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1You are absolutely right Argentian. The fascination with Guevara and Castro is appalling. The romanticism of tyrants is despicable. Where's the sympathy for Castro's political prisoners?
The health care issue is a farce. As for pay up or die, so be it. Those doctors didn't get a free education, and their knowledge and labor is worth something. If people didn't look to the government for a handout, they would get a job and have the ability to pay. Personal responsibility is a virtue, and health care is not a right.
I am a political artist, and am sick of the Liberal slant. If you are interested: www.machinepolitick.com. I'd love to hear what you think.
I have done research for an anti-Che painting I intend to start after the holidays. I know people who left Cuba because they were in Castro's cross hairs. They are devastated by the current president elect, because he says many of the things Castro said when he took power. I am afraid or Liberal friends have sold us down the river for the promise of bread and circuses. - inactive, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Of course you do, if you have medical insurance. In Cuba, or in the old Soviet Union, you had health care for all people, and health care where you stayed in the hospital if you were sick. This is just plain fact. The Soviet Union sucked for many reasons, but the many people that I know personally that grew up under that system are utterly shocked at the callous USA system which is "pay up or die". If you need references, links, quotations, etc, I'll provide them.
- machinepolitick, on 11/30/2008, -1/+1I'm sorry, but you need to talk to someone who has lived under Castro's tyranny. I know people who left everything they had to escape it.
I also don't buy into the health care propaganda. You know what Castro allows you to know. Raul will be no better.
I'd like to see you show some sympathy for the people Castro has in prison for speaking out against him. It seems to me, Liberals only want freedom of speech for people who share their views.
As for Kennedy, I don't think he did much of consequence in his short presidency. I will never understand the fascination with that family. - existing, on 11/28/2008, -1/+1I guess whether or not one calls it terrorism, depends on which side of the fence your fanny hangs. I grew up in south Florida and knew many Cubans. To them, getting rid of Castro would have been a blessing.
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -8/+7I love how yellowcakewalk strolls into here and thinks he's the authority on the subject. You may want to ask Zuruma what her family history is... and then maybe take some notes.
- existing, on 11/28/2008, -3/+1You can post all the articles you want, but I'd let this one go if I were you, yellowcakewalk. You're trying to argue with someone who was there and 'lived it'. Ain't gonna work.
We are all very much aware our government is far from perfect. But I have to wonder why anyone would want to defend a dictator like Castro. - infinitydl, on 11/28/2008, -8/+2For the record yellowcake, this is all crap, half truths and out of context. The US has done no terrorism against the Cuban people, rather, the US, and a sizable number of refugees from CASTRO'S BRUTAL REGIME, and there decedents, have tried to help bring liberty back to the island. Castro has turned Cuba in on big prison, witness the hundreds of thousands of people who have risked death to escape. BTW, if Wiki is your only source, you may want to get something a little more peer reviewed. All people have a basic right to freedom, even if the blame the USA first crowd, thinks it is to messy to fight for!
