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- xmaschimp, on 11/06/2009, -1/+52Definitely my favorite of the president's cabinet picks. If they had trading cards I'd collect his...
- novenator, on 11/06/2009, -5/+48How dare Obama put an actual scientist in his cabinet. It's SOCIALISM!
/s - Kerafyrm, on 11/06/2009, -2/+25STEVENCHU, I CHOOSE YOU!
- monkeyrun, on 11/06/2009, -2/+24You know who also employed a lot of scientists? HITLER!
- digggggggggg, on 11/06/2009, -0/+18I'm an employee at LBNL, where Chu used to be the director. He's a great leader of a scientific organization, but a lot of people in my group weren't sure if he would enjoy dealing with all the politics and BS that come with a cabinet position.
Glad that see that he's doing well despite all that. - MasterInsan0, on 11/06/2009, -1/+14You would rather us have single-digit employment?
- MaxMyers, on 11/06/2009, -0/+11Chu was on The Daily Show with John Stewart.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-july-21-2009 ... - jmmL, on 11/06/2009, -1/+11I'm an energy conservation nut myself. Can't get enough of that First Law!
- MaxxusFlamus, on 11/06/2009, -1/+11can't wait to see all the dumbass digg armchair scientists who think they're so much smarter than the man who won the nobel in physics for laser cooling.
- BigT383, on 11/06/2009, -0/+9I think you missed the /s there buddy.
- Maddoktor2, on 11/06/2009, -1/+10A Nobel Laureate??? That's favoritism!! That's why he got the award - he bribed them!
/g[op] - Akairenn, on 11/06/2009, -0/+8I prefer the compared-to-teenagers angle. Seems accurate enough, especially judging by the comments on that page. :p
- funklor, on 11/06/2009, -1/+8Why are almost all western governments dominated by lawyers? A healthy dose of technocrats would be nice. :-/ Need more Chu's.
- Syric, on 11/06/2009, -0/+7Dugg for this joke:
""How many University of Chicago economists does it take to change a light bulb?" he asked.
"None," he replied. "If the light bulb needed changing, the free market would have done it."" - shutaro, on 11/06/2009, -4/+10Wha Chu taklkin' 'bout?
- kingmanic, on 11/06/2009, -0/+5Laser Scientist > you
- kingmanic, on 11/06/2009, -0/+5There are roughly 88 million of us Chu's. 13th most common Chinese surname. One of the most influential clans in southern china.
- joeditto, on 11/07/2009, -0/+5@foster5652...If I didn't know novenator, I too would've objected to his comment...lol....in the past I've also missed the /s
- novenator, on 11/07/2009, -0/+5heh, yeah, that was sarcasm foster. I almost didn't include the /s tag, but remembered that there might actually be some wingnuts on digg who would seriously post something outrageous like that.
- askantik, on 11/06/2009, -0/+5My only problem is that I fear that despite being a "nerd"/scientist, he is still being somewhat politically correct. My main example is that the FAO says 18% of all global warming causing emissions are from animal agriculture, which is greater than the entire transportation sector (cars, trains, planes, and ships). As if that wasn't enough, the Worldwatch Institute recently published a report saying that taking into account a life cycle analysis, animal agriculture is responsible for 51% of greenhouse gas emissions...
http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.HTM
http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20an ...
Disclaimer: My only problem with the WWI report is that it seems to imply that if you don't eat meat you have to eat fake meat. This couldn't be farther from the truth... but either way, that doesn't affect the statistics.
Please remind me again why we are talking about far-fetched ideas that will cost billions of dollars when we could just eat less meat... Seriously, I'm not trying to push any vegetarian/vegan agenda or anything like that... The science is clear. Why isn't it being talked about? I realize I'll probably get buried into oblivion and someone will say some ***** about bacon or something. - krymson, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4You just put a very weird image in my head of Obama with a backwards baseball cap throwing pokeballs which turn into cabinet members
- jellosea, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4honestly asians are amazing
- spookyttws, on 11/06/2009, -1/+5My sister works for him and she's a huge nerd herself. It's actually really refreshing after 8 years of pseudo science.
- noPCtoday, on 11/06/2009, -1/+4your retardation score is double digit.. on a 1 to 10 scale.
- Maddoktor2, on 11/06/2009, -3/+6Well, that's better than '***** Yu!"...
- arbiter13, on 11/06/2009, -1/+4"The American public... just like your teenage kids, aren't acting in a way that they should act," Dr. Chu said. "The American public has to really understand in their core how important this issue is."
Energy Department spokesman Dan Leistikow added: "Secretary Chu was not comparing the public to teenagers. He was saying that we need to educate teenagers about ways to save energy."
http://reason.com/blog/2009/09/23/energy-secretary ... - Syric, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3That was a really good interview.
- kingmanic, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Asking them to pay more taxes is socialism. Asking them to give up meat would be equated rightly with cultural genocide. Asking them to eat less meat is reasonable but will be met by staunch opposition by the aggro-lobby. Meat is very profitable in general while fruits and veggies are less so.
It can be better for you as well to simply eat slightly less meat. I'd agree thats a pretty sensible suggestion for many reasons. - askantik, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Totally agreed but notice I'm not saying everyone should stop eating meat completely: "Please remind me again why we are talking about far-fetched ideas that will cost billions of dollars when we could just eat less meat..."
It's just sad when we could make what is (in theory) a simple change... but I guess asking people to eat less meat is actually socialism in disguise :[ - jabon13, on 11/06/2009, -1/+3You forgot to add "Willis" at the end. ;) OK, I just dated myself...
- uncleosbert, on 11/06/2009, -1/+2askantik makes a really good point. i can't go vegetarian, but when i thought about how many animals i was eating, it started to really depress me. and kingmanic, you didn't even address this point. he IS advocating for eating less meat, not none.
"Meat is very profitable in general while fruits and veggies are less so."
no, it isn't.
http://www.wallacesfarmer.com/story.aspx?s=32034
http://californiafarmer.com/story.aspx?s=16293& ... - jonathan102, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1he wasn't talking about being green. but more like the attitude of teenages.
- FritoPendejo, on 11/06/2009, -1/+2This is retarded. Academic smarts do not make good policy or good management.
- eesquared, on 11/06/2009, -1/+2Science is BACK!!!
- kingmanic, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1Bacon is tasty... It's a tough sell. Eating meat it's more culturally ingrained than driving. It's better to look at trying to adapt greener animal raising practices than trying to create more vegetarians. Perhaps promote eating less meat but going meat free is not an option at all for most people and any attempt to do so will likely result in open revolt.
Until the damage from domestic animals threatens to directly kills us there will be no mass conversion. - foster5652, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1I didn't think so papa. Go back to bagging those groceries. Let's leave intelligent discourse to the pros. And yes, Academic smarts meaning that someone may truly have worked through the issues is not a bad thing. It's good that we finally have individuals in place who use 'scientific data' to back up decisions. Though, I suppose we could go back to the crystal ball for our decissions. Durrr.
- anthropodeus, on 11/06/2009, -1/+2i think it's hilarious because a lot more teenagers do "green" things than their parents do. not only is the comment belittling, but it's contrary to reality.
- foster5652, on 11/06/2009, -1/+2Yes, my highly intelligent thing to say is 'Are you a Nobel Laureate'? Do you do anything close to matching a Physics Professor at UC Berkeley? If not, I suspect you have nowhere close to the brain power to really think this through as deeply as Chu (for whom, this area is his life-long work). I give him a fair amount of leeway in terms of sorting this out.
If you do match all these qualifications, then kudos. Let me read your comments again. - MaxxusFlamus, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1I mean, I have no qualms against not eating meat. I think we all could benefit from it.
But for the Department of Energy- he has far more power to influence our power distribution systems and resources- over people's eating habits.
If you read up on Dr. Chu's personality- he's sort of an impatient person- in that he wants to get results fast. Getting 300 million people to change their eating habits is worlds more difficult than shuffling a few billion dollars to direct where industry should go.
If people are shouting socialism/facism/nazi because the administration is overseeing CEO pay for the banks that took bail out money, imagine the ***** storm that would happen if they started telling what we should eat. I'm sure he would love to float the idea, but I'm pretty sure when he brought the idea up at a cabinet meeting- every other advisor just had flash backs of teaparty demonstrations and obama with a hitler mustache with swastikas eeeeeeeeeeeeeeverywhere.
I'm not saying you're wrong- I'm just saying that given the circumstances, it's not the most efficient use of the office. - spoon088, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1Finally a smart person in government.
- kingmanic, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1Lawyers don't necessarily have management skills either.
- kingmanic, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1@uncleosbert: I'd support eating less meat.
@Askantik: A lot of cultures use meat as part of their rituals. Any movement to push people to eat no meat would necessarily also mean a war on all cultures for which meat is a key theme. I'm Chinese and when I got married there was a roast pig involved. When I got a house a pig had to die as well. at least 4 times a year a chicken must also die. For western culture some would view it in a similar way as the Chinese would. A movement towards less meat consumption wouldn't be as contentious. - askantik, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1Okay, let me repeat this again:
"Please remind me again why we are talking about far-fetched ideas that will cost billions of dollars when we could just eat less meat..."
That does not mean no meat at any meal of the day. I have other arguments I could make for completely abstaining from meat, but I'm not bringing them here because we are talking strictly the environment here. Either way, from all of the perspectives I have on it, people eating less meat is a win-win.
Recently the German version of the EPA asked citizens to eat less meat. And Germans eat even more meat than Americans.
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090122-16931.htm ... - askantik, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1The aggro-lobby (Cargill, Monsanto, Dupont, etc) you speak of is probably even more interested profit-wise in GM seeds than animal products, though they certainly have interests there, too. And giving up meat has nothing to do with giving up your cultural traditions, unless you mean to imply that I'm uncultured. I still eat big ass meals at Thanksgiving and I still grill out on the 4th of July and all the other "American" stuff. And I don't feel left out just because I don't eat burgers or steak.
- MaxxusFlamus, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1you make a good point- some techies have massive egos- but at least they're far more incompetent at lying.
- Maddoktor2, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1STEVA! STEVA STE!
- MaxxusFlamus, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1while it's absolutely right-
what's more likely?
Spending a few billion on creating more efficient energy systems and converting to renewable energy
or telling AMERICA to EAT LESS MEAT.
One is a change that the average everyday person would hardly notice, cept maybe when we pay our taxes. The other would be noticed every day. No bacon for breakfast. Or no ham for lunch. Or no steak for dinner.
I mean, to me, it seems far more far fetched to get people to eat less meat over converting the entire powergrid to geothermal/solar/wind. - papashawn, on 11/06/2009, -2/+2He's a physics professor trying to solve economics issues. That's like asking Maya Angelou's opinion on the banking crisis. Not to mention he's arguing with U of C economics professors, which are arguably the smartest in the biz.
Tell me are you capable of critical thinking or do you read something and go DURRRR CABINET MEMBER SAYS SO IT MUST BE RIGHT - FritoPendejo, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1Not necessarily true. Try working in a business that promotes for technical competence and not for management skills.
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