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- novenator, on 11/05/2009, -13/+168Last time this happened, Steele apologized to Limbaugh within 48 hours. I wonder how long it will be this time.
- stevenwalters, on 11/05/2009, -7/+70The problem with this "true conservative" movement, is that these people aren't true conservatives.
What does being a bigoted, warmongering, evangelical, anti-intellectual have to do with being conservative?
Nothing. - NorthMass, on 11/05/2009, -7/+61okay I am for laissez-faire capitalism I think keynesian economics is nonsense but supporting regulations doesn't mean that someone isn't capitalist at all.
- Maddoktor2, on 11/05/2009, -9/+62Steele:
"What would Reagan do?"
Sorry, we'll have to get back to you on that one, Mikey.
He's spinning in his grave too fast to make out any detail just yet. - inactive, on 11/05/2009, -7/+50NorthMass, I would rebut or agree, but I honestly don't know what you're trying to say. Please re-read your statement - I think you're missing some words (or perhaps have too many).
Oh, and Michael Steele is about as much of leader as a slinky with feet. Good luck with that! - CaptOblivious, on 11/05/2009, -15/+57PhoenixTx,
Wow dude, you should have just kept your mouth shut, all you've done is show us exactly how bankrupt you are. - ThsGuyRightHere, on 11/05/2009, -7/+48Phoenix you should apologize to the rest of the world for stealing our goddamn oxygen.
- rignopolis, on 11/05/2009, -8/+48Either conservatives will take back the Republican party or it will die on the vine.
- CaptOblivious, on 11/05/2009, -14/+48You claim to be in favor of libertarianism but then you complain about liberals and moderates and think that beck is OK?
beck is a cancer upon our country and it's political processes.
His insane clown act, fake tears, knee jerk reactions, racism and proven hypocrisy are more than 50% of everything that is wrong with political discourse in this country.
As long as people think that the way he acts and reacts is acceptable, those people will be incapable of participating in the process like adults.
Part of coming to an agreement is the ability to LISTEN to those you DISAGREE with, to find points that you DO agree on to use to start finding acceptable middle ground.
beck will never be capable of this, he's too busy with the histrionics and drama, rolling your eyes and making fun of those you disagree with will never help you find any compromise. - digghasnoethics, on 11/05/2009, -10/+43Oh goodie,
The republicans are tearing themselves apart, with the loony wing happy to stick the knife in to their compatriots to get ahead. Its this same loony wing that keeps saying really dumb stuff and making the repubs unelectable. The ones that any sane party managers would be sitting on if they had the authority.
Roll on 2012 and the Palin/Limbaugh ticket, I need a good laugh. - ThsGuyRightHere, on 11/05/2009, -4/+32I feel... pretty much the same way I would feel if North Korea declared war on Iran.
- TimtheTaxMan, on 11/05/2009, -0/+24Throw them in jail for having an opinion. Yea...that's an American sentiment alright.
- tao52nyc, on 11/05/2009, -1/+21It was in Reagan's 1st year in office that the Congress raised the debt ceiling to $1 trillion, with Ronnie's blessing. Hardcore conservatives were literally in tears on the House and Senate floors the day that passed - they thought it would be the end of America. They were right.
Reagan railed against "tax and spend" liberals in his campaign. He was right about that. But he replaced it with "borrow and spend," a policy we now see has a far worse legacy. - teddylj, on 11/05/2009, -1/+21He could change his icon to the Obama-as-Joker thing, to start.
While you're out there, trying to think, think again about this: What does being a bigoted, warmongering, evangelical, anti-intellectual have to do with being conservative? - fishbeef33, on 11/05/2009, -2/+21Since when does "conservative" mean strictly born-again christians who hate women and gay people, want perpetual war, and prescribe to the "robber baron" style of capitalism? I thought at one point it just had to do with limited government and taxes.
- skipvt, on 11/05/2009, -2/+21I wonder how much longer it will be be before he's forced to resign.
- Pxtl, on 11/05/2009, -4/+21Beck is "libertarian" the same way O'Reilly is "independant" - they're just labels they picked because the label "Republican" was destroyed by the Bush years. They will never be libertarians. They're Reagan republicans - always were, always will be. Deficits don't matter, war is good as long as we do it, and anybody who does anything we find morally prurient should be thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 11/05/2009, -1/+18More like uncertain which side to pull for, yet hoping that somehow both sides lose.
- zip000, on 11/05/2009, -3/+19The only reason Beck is against nation building now is because a Democrat is in office. When Republicans were doing exactly the same thing, he was fine with it. He isn't coming around to a different way of looking at it; he changed his opinion because he doesn't want to support anything that Obama is doing regardless of whether he actually thinks it is a good thing or not.
Beck is so morally bankrupt that he will change his opinion - or what he says his opinion is - from moment to moment. Either one of three things is happening:
1) He has no opinions and doesn't really care about any of the issues, just what will help his side win and keep his ratings high at whatever cost,
2) the cognitive dissonance of simultaneously believing two contradictory things will make him slowly go insane
3) He actually is already insane and doesn't realize how schizophrenic he is on issues. - DDRSkata, on 11/05/2009, -0/+16@solusfaran: What, have a baby with Downs syndrome and parade it around for sympathy?
- miffelplix, on 11/05/2009, -1/+17* gathers popcorn, soda, settles into lazyboy * This is going to be fun. Republicans are going to tear themselves apart. Go!
- acknotSW, on 11/05/2009, -6/+22I'm guessing it will split shortly after a Regan vs. Mondale like landslide in 2012.
Either a hard core Jesus freak will win the nomination and the moderates and independents will abandon the party completely, or a moderate will win the nomination and the floor floppers will stay home. Either way, epic win for Obama and a LOT of finger pointing in the republican party in the months that follow. - phogasmic, on 11/05/2009, -1/+17Make sure you tell your people that. I'd like you guys to run the most extreme Social and Economic Conservatives that you can, that way the Dems will dominate National elections for a generation.
- Apokalyps2547, on 11/05/2009, -0/+15Yeah I'm still scratching my head at the logic:
* The Republican Party is currently SMALLER then the Democratic one.
* The far-right already votes Republican very very reliably.
And yet the plan is to REMOVE moderates.....
...how do you plan on GROWING the party? - Pxtl, on 11/05/2009, -6/+21@DavidNiven - spending the extra tax revenue? What extra tax revenue. Republicans stated it succingtly: "Reagan proved that defecits don't matter".
Reagan invented the modern Republican approach of "spend and don't tax". Up until the current economic crisis, the Democrats were the party of fiscal conservatism. - cyberclown, on 11/05/2009, -10/+25Good devide the Republican party even more. Nothing better for us Democrats.
- teddylj, on 11/05/2009, -1/+15The listeners would say otherwise.
And then would immediately continue to not matter. - DankBuddz, on 11/05/2009, -3/+17I just REALLY did a /facepalm in real life.
You should be proud, its about as rare as people really laughing out loud when they type lol. - RagManX, on 11/05/2009, -3/+17"wrong. the government makes MORE money from taxes when the tax rate is low than they do when it is high. Economics 101"
We should drop the tax rate to zero. We'll have such a huge government surplus that we'll be able to buy China! - hblask, on 11/05/2009, -1/+15The Republican party, handed a massive movement of people outraged at out-of-control government, seems determined to throw away the opportunity with infighting and business as usual.
gg usa. - crunchdigg, on 11/05/2009, -0/+12Reading these comments, it's like no one knows what a Bell Curve is.
"If we just get more extreme, and crank up the rhetoric another few notches, find more people to hate and discriminate against, find a smaller more pure tent, THEN we'll get more votes" - TrevorBelmont, on 11/05/2009, -2/+14So, a mild criticism of Michael Steele's inconsistency when under pressure from conservative media = being too ignorant to support capitalism.
Noted. - jdeane, on 11/05/2009, -0/+12How long before Steele apologizes after Limbaugh tears him apart?
- RagManX, on 11/05/2009, -2/+14Was coming here to make the same comment, novenator. I expect to read about the apology before the workday is over.
- TimtheTaxMan, on 11/05/2009, -1/+13@sodade
What difference would that make in regards to putting them in jail? - IHaveIssues, on 11/05/2009, -4/+16Using the term "moonbat" pretty much lets us know how your mind works.
- Chrysalii, on 11/05/2009, -4/+16too bad millions of listeners didn't mean jack to thousands of voters.
- sodade, on 11/05/2009, -10/+22Regan was a criminal (iran contra anyone?) who's handlers ushered in the economic policies that have brought america so low.
- phogasmic, on 11/05/2009, -0/+11I see the same thing. There is no chance in hell they will find someone good to run in 2012.
I hope they run Palin so we can get some good yuks at least. - CaptainNoPants, on 11/05/2009, -0/+11Obvious troll account, buried.
- zip000, on 11/05/2009, -5/+16What's a "true conservative"?
If she believes in a lot of conservative principles but not all of them, then is she a "true conservative"? If the more conservative candidate is further from her beliefs than the more liberal candidate, why not endorse the liberal candidate?
Politics shouldn't be sports - you shouldn't go with "your team" to the detriment of the people. - fishbeef33, on 11/05/2009, -3/+13Yes, Republicans NEVER use words to attack or mislead. Socialist, Communist, comparing Obama to Hitler, "Patriot Act," "protecting marriage," on and on. Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck are as much "sheepherders" as anyone on the left. And I do recall Beck calling Obama a "racist" but I guess it doesn't count if your team does it.
- CaptOblivious, on 11/05/2009, -6/+16Ok,
Tells me all I need to know about you then.
Interesting that you address none of my points about him.
I advise you to stop being so easily mislead. - geodebug, on 11/05/2009, -0/+10The only conservatism I can get behind is fiscal conservatism. The Republicans lost that quite awhile ago so they have nothing left that's relevant to sell.
I wish they'd split, cast off the anti-intellectual half, then reform with a much more moderate, traditionally conservative message.
Of course ***** in one and and wish in the other.... - RagManX, on 11/05/2009, -1/+11"She should of"
Ummmm, She should *have* not *of*.
"If Virginia and NJ taught us anything, its that the way the republican party wins is with true conservatives."
I really hope this line of thinking continues for a few more years. Eliminate support of the moderates in the party, so the remaining 10% (guesstimate number with no solid support) of the population can vote true conservatives in 2010 and 2012!!! - cruelsniper, on 11/05/2009, -0/+10Hm, it sure is racist to have your party elect a African-American to be the next president...
- zip000, on 11/05/2009, -2/+12I'm with Tim on this one. I ***** hate Beck and Limbaugh...the rest I feel less strongly about, but dislike a good deal...but their opinions shouldn't be any basis for sending them to jail.
Some of them have really skirted the line though on inciting violence - if you say things that cause people to go out and commit a crime as heinous as that census worker being murdered, then you DO need to go to jail. I'm not saying this is the case in that case - I don't have enough info about it - but if an investigation shows that the person or people that did it were doing so because of what they heard from Beck or Bachmann, then there is something there. - NorthMass, on 11/05/2009, -5/+14lincoln chafee was a liberal, collins and snowe flirt with liberal ideas sometimes, even though there aren't really many liberals, I don't really want them in the Republican party just like I don't want neocons. In general though they are basically all for massive government, whatever party they are.
Novenator, honestly I agree with you on the GOP, I just don't understand how the Democrats are any better, at all? Yea, the GOP probably agrees with me more than the Democrats, but I still view them equally as ***** as the Democrats even though they may give me a few more tax cuts and not try to restrict gun ownership as much. But in general both parties move us toward bigger government, less civil liberties, more wars, etc.
This is one of the reasons why I view Obama as no better, if not worse, than Bush. He gives the illusion of being different, but he is just as secretive as Bush, he is meddling in other countries business like Bush, he honestly hasn't changed anything that is of significance. - enclaved, on 11/05/2009, -3/+12The irony of what you say is staggering. I'm almost glad you're oblivious to it.
- theaceoffire, on 11/05/2009, -2/+11Darn you Truth, Darn you and curse your Liberal Bias!
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