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- DBreeze, on 04/23/2009, -15/+552I don't agree with him all the time but Shep is the only person I respect on fox.
- Nboy514, on 04/23/2009, -11/+465Wow, good for you Shep. No really. Someone at Faux News finally uses Rage for a good use for once.
- inactive, on 04/23/2009, -23/+402Torture does NOT help. That's a goddamned myth.
- Harabeck, on 04/23/2009, -18/+326Torture is only viable as a means of instilling fear, torture has never been about gaining information.
- jinif, on 04/23/2009, -9/+273Fools!!! Without torture we never would have been able to scourge the world of witches during the middle ages!
Do you see any witches around nowadays? Of course not, because we burned them all on the stake 400 years ago! - samsmartjr, on 04/23/2009, -8/+209I wonder how much longer Shepard Smith will be on the air after this. He doesn't deserve to get kicked off of Fox, but I don't know of any of their anchors who have really gone against the obvious conservative bent of the network.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 04/23/2009, -9/+171I get the sense Smith feels the same way about this conversation I do. It's an INSANE conversation to even have. If we all agree that torture is wrong then it doesn't matter what the specific definition of torture is. If we are all in agreement that torture is immoral, inhumane, and unjust then we won't even try to toe some ***** line, playing semantic games, talking about the the line between "harsh interrogation tactics" and torture. If we all agree that torture is wrong than there is NO CONVERSATION about whether or not it "helps" or "works" because IT DOESN'T ***** MATTER.
If it's torture or could reasonably be considered torture then WE DON'T ***** DO IT! We don't bother with "harsh interrogation techniques" and torture because we're America. We recognize the value of human life, liberty, and justice and equality under the law. That means we don't EXCUSE the ABUSE of ANYBODY no matter how many "lives could be saved" because we value our principles MORE than so-called "safety." We don't surrender our ethical or political identity, EVER. We don't compromise our principles in the face of any foreign threat because it is our PRINCIPLES which define our national character. Without them we have nothing worth defending!
***** - Bologner, on 04/23/2009, -10/+139A voice of reason in a cloud of *****.
- wakethefockup, on 04/23/2009, -10/+138I for one couldn't agree with Shep more: I want off the bus.
There is true EVIL aloof in this country, people are allowing themselves, and have been for years, to be manipulated into believing we are "right" in being the most evil nation on the planet, while the very same people point the finger at others around the world and refer to them as terrorists, as subhuman, as evil.
It is f-ing embarrassing to say I share a country with some people. Truly I cannot believe what some people will allow themselves to think and say.
Here's a little hint, folks, you cannot point the finger at others and call them "evil" when you yourself are en evil bastard. If you support evil, you are f-ing evil. - angrykeyboarder, on 04/23/2009, -3/+127I'd like to know why he's there. Perhaps he's the "'token' common-sense guy"?
- wakethefockup, on 04/23/2009, -9/+121think about it this way: we are taking methods that for years have been defined as TORTURE by both ourselves and the international community, and actually discussing, in front of the world, whether or not they are indeed "torture"...
downright embarrassing and truly evil behavior by our nation, one that is supposedly "one nation, under God": WHAT GOD IS THIS? - jcmyers, on 04/23/2009, -6/+90"I don't give a rat's ass if it helps. We are AMERICA! We do not ***** torture!!" - I could not agree more.
What more needs to be said on the matter? Nothing that I can think of. - RickHavoc, on 04/23/2009, -1/+80So does terrorism. But as Americans we believe that whether something works is not the only question.
- Jordan117, on 04/23/2009, -12/+87Shepard Smith is just about the only respectable person on Fox.
- toastgodsupreme, on 04/23/2009, -1/+76Indeed. If I was being tortured, I'd probably tell whoever was torturing me whatever they wanted to hear. Even if it wasn't true.
Call me silly but I like my fingernails being on my fingers. - ratherred, on 04/23/2009, -5/+72***** NO WE DON'T!!!!
Aw *****, we actually do, huh? - grinsy, on 04/23/2009, -6/+65The war on terror is a war against a concept, and as such can only be won by eliminating the the desire to be a terrorist. We can't kill every terrorist. The idea that we can is ridiculous. The death or torture of one will always be perceived by many more as an injustice committed by us, thereby sending more young people into a rage of protest and spawning more terrorists. The only way to end this is to convince them our way of life is better and more moral. I'm not advocating throwing down our weapons, I'm just saying we've ignored the more important front in this battle.
- Bojanglesmn, on 04/23/2009, -9/+62Shepard Smith
See: badass - 0zzy, on 04/23/2009, -1/+49How about Judge Napolitano? He has been consistently defending the American people, against Bush and Obama.
Btw, it's a good show to watch, Fox Freedom Watch (online show): http://freedomwatchonfox.com/ - for those civil libertarians out there. - pedo, on 04/23/2009, -6/+53i like the "oops" at the end
- shaelen, on 04/23/2009, -11/+54You're a Goddammed idiot, Peterp.
I don't care how many "official" statements are produced by the very same government who okays torture.
ANY government that states torture works is a government telling you lies. Yes, lies. Be it Bush or Obama, it doesn't matter.
To begin with, 9/11 was ONLY a criminal action, not a war. And "terrorists" are whatever your favorite government wants to call them. You are easily mislead if you think we are actually fighting some sort of war against terrorists.
Please, man, don't be as stupid as you appear. - RandomRage, on 04/23/2009, -3/+43Anyone else think Shep might be headed to MSNBC or CNN once his contract's up? Seeing as how he's definitely the 'loose-canon' on FNC these days...
- a3r0, on 04/23/2009, -0/+34Second video
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 04/23/2009, -4/+38Should you ever have the doubtful pleasure of being waterboarded, you'll probably admit you're a terrorist after the third session, and every crime ever committed against Americans after the tenth.
The CIA tortured (and this is torture) some of their victims more than 200 times this way.
The terrible thing beyond the absolutely useless confessions from a person who simply does not want to die is this:
If you capture and torture an innocent man, and he was neutral or maybe even sympathetic towards America, after going through this kind of hell, you can rest assured you have created a new enemy.
And America has done this hundreds of times all over the world since 2001.
There were a few terrorists before 2001. Bush and his gang of cronies and torturers has ensured a steady stream of new ones for the next twenty or thirty years.
How does a new army of potential suicide bombers compare to your "high value information"? You get one "enemy" to tell you something - and create new ones along the way.
Collateral damage in your book, I guess. - icebane, on 04/23/2009, -0/+34Even if torture did help... it is the responsibility of the United States not to use it. I might be crazy.. but I feel that the US is (was?) supposed to be a leader when it comes to ethics in these realms. Always raising the bar.
- Chooxo, on 04/23/2009, -5/+39"If we're gonna be Ronald Reagan's shining city on a hill, we don't get to torture. We don't do it."
- quomen, on 04/23/2009, -11/+44Shep has always been great. We shouldn't characterize networks as a whole. All the networks have their radicals.. Dobbs/Grace on CNN, Hannity/Beck/O'Reilly on FOX, Olbermann/Maddow on MSNBC, and so on..
- gozroth, on 04/23/2009, -3/+36You could just see the volcano of fury building in the middle of the screen. Freaking awesome.
- wakethefockup, on 04/23/2009, -15/+47This issue will put the last nail in the gop coffin.
- AaronCo, on 04/23/2009, -6/+36Whoa. So I guess it's official, then, eh? Hell has frozen over? I finally agreed with someone on Fox news...
- BCPneumatics, on 04/23/2009, -2/+30"digg down if you agree with me. you know what i found out...most people go through comments hitting the "Show" button and reading comments that have been buried. so Digg me down if you agree!"
Psst, they're laughing at you, not agreeing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude - rockon4life45, on 04/23/2009, -14/+42Jack Bauer says differently
- qazws, on 04/23/2009, -7/+34Fox news is torture, throw shoes at their lies.
- Jordan117, on 04/23/2009, -2/+29That would be a devastating rebuttal if you weren't talking out your ass.
Every credible legal, medical, and human rights authority classifies waterboarding as torture.
We charged Japanese soldiers with war crimes for waterboarding Americans.
It was in the arsenal of torture employed by the KGB, the Gestapo, and the Spanish Inquisition.
John McCain, who was tortured himself, unequivocally calls it torture. So does every journalist who undergoes it voluntarily, including one from Fox News.
Waterboarding is torture. Period. - inactive, on 04/23/2009, -0/+27***** man, if you were torturing me, even if I didn't know what you wanted - I'd just make ***** up so you would stop.
You're talking about torturing people who despise you, some of which who are willing to blow themselves up just to kill you - I doubt torture would do anything except validate that it's really important to keep information from you. - THEROC, on 04/23/2009, -39/+65I liked the Fox propaganda channel. All i needed to do to satisfy my thirst for truth, was to tune in to Fox News and assume the complete opposite of everything they said. Now it's getting to the point where i have to wait for the president to make a speech to find out the truth. This is Madness.
- peteIRL, on 04/23/2009, -4/+28No, THIS IS SPAARTAAAAA!
- temujin1234, on 04/23/2009, -5/+29Smith's outburst conveys an important message. America does not torture. Anybody who wants to change this wants to lessen America as a country, and should be opposed.
- Angostura, on 04/23/2009, -1/+25I'm a liberal lefty and I'm totally opposed to torture, because of its lack of effectiveness and also because of the way that it erodes the moral authority of a country.
However, I do acknowledge that there are grey areas. I'm not entirely convinced, for example that sleep deprivation should be classified as torture. Partly because I don't want to call my two year old a torturer, but also because I don't think it is necessarily about instilling fear alone. I also think calling sleep deprivation torture rather devalues the term.
Hmm. Moral quandaries R Us. - Jordan117, on 04/23/2009, -0/+24You're one to talk, *****.
/s - dazparkour, on 04/23/2009, -2/+26Doesn't deserve to get kicked off Fox?
I think he's earned the right to go somewhere better. - marshalkowski, on 04/23/2009, -1/+24I see an exciting and controversial new episode of Mythbusters on the horizon.
- Dr3w, on 04/23/2009, -1/+24It's not helping when you find out where one bomb is, but the methods in which you got that information inspire 100 others to make new bombs.
- CompanyCalls405, on 04/23/2009, -0/+23Oh ***** I didn't even look for a second vid.
thanks homie. - LucidHawk, on 04/23/2009, -3/+26"Strategy Room"?
You mean FREEDOM WATCH.
They are the most hard hitting thing ever on Fox News by far.
Judge Napolitano host's it. - CompanyCalls405, on 04/23/2009, -4/+27I was somehow under the impression he actually dropped the F-bomb on air. That was kind of the only reason I watched it.
- chazooka, on 04/23/2009, -0/+22Americans also believe in the Zinger. And you, sir, just got Zinged.
- ObamaYouth, on 04/23/2009, -2/+23talking about Shepard, this is the funniest blooper ever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzV8wrnLfS4 - inactive, on 04/23/2009, -12/+33If America doesn't ***** torture, then why is Obama protecting those who do?
Torture has a long history in America. They just had other names for it or nobody cared.
If you didn't notice we write the history books. Certainly not like you will ever see real history in public schools.
For instance do you know America actually turned Jews who sought asylum during World War 2 away? Well you can guess how they turned out. Mostly dead. - jitterbits, on 04/23/2009, -0/+20Silly!
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