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- fatfreddyscat, on 05/17/2009, -4/+100As an ex National Guard member, most of us in the NG thought Rumsfeld was an ***** that had no idea how to run the military.
- mgraham80, on 05/17/2009, -3/+81FTA:
"No, sir," said the pilot. He explained that he was from Florida’s Hurlburt Field Air Force base—roughly 200 miles from New Orleans—which contained an entire fleet of search-and-rescue helicopters. "I’m just here because you’re here," the pilot added. "My whole unit’s sitting back at Hurlburt, wondering why we’re not being used."
The search-and-rescue helicopters were not being used because Donald Rumsfeld had not yet approved their deployment—even though, as Lieutenant General Russ Honoré, the cigar-chomping commander of Joint Task Force Katrina, would later tell me, "that Wednesday, we needed to evacuate people. The few helicopters we had in there were busy, and we were trying to deploy more."
FAIL. - dougdangerdoo, on 05/17/2009, -1/+48"even Hollywood Barack had to do a 360 on almost all his major campaign promises "
I dont think this means what you think it means. - LemurDaddy, on 05/17/2009, -0/+45Thus proving that the average National Guard service member is more perceptive and reality-based than President 43. Not a surprise, really.
- booksnmore4you, on 05/17/2009, -8/+52In the Name of Jesus, I kill you with the military!
- mateo60, on 05/17/2009, -1/+43@poprocksandsoda What are you Rambo? Go be a dick somewhere else.
- lioness12, on 05/17/2009, -3/+43How much more of this stuff will come out and will be pushed aside by the brilliant Republicans lawyers and corrupt sycophants of the Bush Whitehouse?
- zerozed, on 05/17/2009, -2/+39Those bible verses on official US documents are wholly inappropriate. The General who put them on there should be relieved of duty if he's still on active-duty. Check out the Military Religious Freedom Foundation for other examples of ongoing dominionist Christian influence within the DoD.
Sadly, the US military (including many top Generals) has been heavily compromised by religious zealots who boldy insert their religious dogma into their work. They proselytize within the ranks, and have an agenda to make the military an evangelical "Christian" force. Again, check out
www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org for more heinous examples. - LemurDaddy, on 05/17/2009, -0/+36poprocks, he didn't even state his rank. You're attacking without even knowing the basics. Fail. Try again.
Unless you're saying that the NG is the bottom of all services? Make sure to tell them that the next time there's an earthquake, flood or other emergency. When they're hauling your (probably) fat ass out of trouble, make sure to tell them how little you respect them.
I'm amazed at how wingnuts respect the military except when they don't. - LemurDaddy, on 05/17/2009, -0/+35Pelosi will get what's coming to her, no doubt, but I'm amazed at the illogic of defending the men who ordered torture while going ***** over congresscritters who may have been briefed about the torture. Do you sense the cognitive dissonance of your own position?
If you're going to attack Pelosi with such gusto, you're condemning President 43 as a war criminal. After all, if what Pelosi was briefed was legal and within the law, there's no issue, is there? - robotmaster, on 05/17/2009, -1/+35Coming from a guy who's probably never been in the military.
- skipvt, on 05/17/2009, -3/+35The poster boy for a failed administration that took credit for success, but blamed others for failure. He should have been hung out to dry for Abu Ghraib.
- dalexandruz, on 05/17/2009, -2/+30Rumsfeld served in the military but not sure if he actually fought in Vietnam. For crying out loud the U.S Military( Pentagon) was against the invasion of Iraq and these draft dodgers went ahead anyway. It's always the people with no experience or don't know how to manage their lives that end up giving orders.
- mgraham80, on 05/17/2009, -1/+23STOP COMPARING ORDERING TORTURE TO ALLOWING AN ATTACK ON PIRATES.
It is not a good analogy. It does not make you look smart. It reveals that you listen to too much Rush Limbaugh.
That is all. - Delphium226, on 05/17/2009, -0/+22@poprocksandsoda
Thanks for yet another demonstration of your douchbaggery. - BossKey, on 05/17/2009, -3/+23Waiting for the right wingnuts to call Rumsfeld's detractors a bunch of America-hating liberal peaceniks...
- rhabdomancer, on 05/17/2009, -0/+20At least he didn't end up in a grave.
- tidu, on 05/17/2009, -2/+22Wait, so that bitch Pelosi lied once and should step down, but the past administration lied repeatedly and repeatedly saying "we do not torture" and we should just let them slide?
- JamesGrimlee, on 05/17/2009, -1/+19Being able to comprehend more than one issue at a time is pretty hard I suppose.
- mikelieman, on 05/18/2009, -1/+19Didn't Bush lie about Iraq being a threat?
Didn't Bush's lie about Iraq being a threat result DIRECTLY in the death of 4000 servicemen?
Didn't Rice, Rumsfeld and Cheney ALSO tell lies about Iraq being a threat?
Getting together with your friends and lying about something to Congress to deprive them of oversight is a violation of 18 USC 371.
How many people's deaths is Pelosi DIRECTLY responsible for, again? What federal law did Pelosi break, again? - rabidjester, on 05/17/2009, -2/+20That slide show with the bible quotes is the most disturbing thing I've seen coming from our government.
Well... maybe not the worst, but it's up there. - 1x253, on 05/17/2009, -1/+18I'll say one thing, though: Poprocks is ALWAYS a pole smoker!
That's what I like about you Poprocks: never any surprises, you're so predictable! : ) - inactive, on 05/17/2009, -2/+18Rumsfeld had the leadership qualities of a gerbil, and the morality of a snake.
- GABACALM, on 05/17/2009, -0/+16"It's easy to play armchair QB until you have to actually step onto the playing field."
Is this a playing field that you yourself have played on, poprocks? Because if not, it would certainly seem as though you are playing armchair QB here yourself. Hmm... - algaeturd, on 05/17/2009, -6/+22History will judge him...as a liar, a criminal and one of the most dangerous men to ever threaten the sovereignty of the United States of America.
I can only HOPE that the next generations of Americans will be a lot smarter than the fools who helped put this man into power along with the treasonous Bush thugs. - paulvq, on 05/17/2009, -0/+15Don't insult gerbils and snakes like that.
- ChristPissed, on 05/17/2009, -7/+22When these kind of people chant the phrase "The Lord", they are of course referring to the nefarious evil entities known as "Lord Saytun" or "Lord Moloch".
- blueboy2000, on 05/17/2009, -4/+19Is it possible that this could expose Rummy to a lawsuit? As if he doesn't already have to have a lawyer on speed dial ...
- tidu, on 05/17/2009, -1/+16"even Hollywood Barack had to do a 360 on almost all his major campaign promises "
thanks for the lol - seltaeb4, on 05/17/2009, -2/+16He should have been hung out to dry *at* Abu Gharib.
- latpack, on 05/17/2009, -3/+17What a slimeball. I made it to page 3 before I've had enough.
- nihilville, on 05/17/2009, -0/+14Is this sarcasm I detect? Surely you can't have been this thoroughly misled.
Pelosi is of course just a distraction from the real issue... Those who authorized and made a policy of torture.
Pelosi is already calling your bluff and calling for an impartial truth commission, hopefully her republican companions in Congress will have the same amount of guts and dedication to justice. - mgraham80, on 05/17/2009, -0/+13Unfortunately, no.
- Delphium226, on 05/17/2009, -1/+14No, the real issue is traitors like you who drape themselves in the flag.
- svendm, on 05/18/2009, -1/+13Well, when you see an American F-16 flying out of Israel into Jordan on radar, it just happens to look a lot like an Israeli F-16 flying into Jordan.
Seriously, you can't see why they'd have a problem with that? - malex, on 05/17/2009, -2/+14Don't you libtards get it? The bottom line is: (insert something completely unrelated to this story)
- mystcnurse, on 05/17/2009, -1/+12I always saw him as a silly man, who made ridiculous comments during press conferences, and wondered how it came to be that such an egotistical, childish idiot had obtained so much power.
- mgraham80, on 05/17/2009, -0/+10So his morality wanted to eat his leadership? Sounds about right.
- SisyphusFragmnt, on 05/17/2009, -2/+11WHY WOULD I NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE WHEN I CAN JUST USE MY TRUTHINESS GUT?
- SisyphusFragmnt, on 05/17/2009, -2/+11For conservatives yes. They've been destroying our public education for so long their party is starting to "reap the benefits".
- enantiodromia, on 05/18/2009, -0/+9now that's the poprocksnsoda i'm used to!
glad to see you back, dude. it's been a while since you have said something so crazy.
/will be trolled by again, A+++ - kanojo1969, on 05/17/2009, -4/+13Rumsfeld is guilty of a lot of things that are evil, treasonous, and should land him in Jail. But this article ignores all of that and concentrates instead on a bunch of petty greivances that the people who worked with him had.
His behavior according to this piece looks just like any arrogant ***** boss, but in reality he did some truly despicable things. It's dumb to focus on this trivial stuff. The article misses the point.
The only thing in there that's worth noting is the religious stuff on the briefing documents. That's so ***** up I can't believe he got away with it. I think it's basically tactics 101 that if you are invading a country with strong, violent religious beliefs that are opposed to your own, you go out of your way to make the war NOT about religion. Doing the opposite is incredibly dumb.
And probably illegal as we all know that the Military is required to be deity-neutral.
I think that it should be a requirement of holding public office to declare yourself an atheist. Simply because anyone who professes to believe in a magic man in the sky is clearly not capable of rational thought and is unlikely to make good decisions. If the world was run by atheists it would be a far better place. - SisyphusFragmnt, on 05/17/2009, -5/+13Ohhh yes, we Democrats have caused the deaths of thousands of soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis and helped to destabilize the entire middle east. Oh wait, no, that's the conservatives and your Dominionist *****.
Even if you are right, you should be trying to build bridges with the people in both parties who agree with you to try and prosecute them. Instead you say "just give it up, we'll never catch Bush or his *****, but let's try Pelosi for war crimes!" - roccanet, on 05/17/2009, -1/+9surprised? bush was a moron and a horrible leader and he got played like a fiddle by cheney and rumsfeld (et al. im sure). Its been less then 6 months since these bastards finally left office - im sure the worst revelations are yet to come...
- mgraham80, on 05/17/2009, -0/+7Midnight, you're a fool. We're not "proud" to unearth what happened. What we're feeling is more like what it's like to tear off a bandaid: you expose yourself to a little pain, but it lets the healing get on.
It's actually really sad and painful for us Democrats to see just how awfully the country was run during the last 8 years.
We don't make every issue about scoring points, like many of the Republicans on digg. - nofrickenway, on 05/18/2009, -0/+7Scripture out of context can be used to say anything. Ephesians 6 (the whole armor) is talking about spiritual battles.
12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD! A Christian's sword, as is emphasized throughout the scriptures, is the Word of God itself- which is foolishness to those who are perishing.(1 Corinthians 1:18)
Even Obama said of the sermon on the mount that "it's doubtful that our own defense department would survive it's application."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaNXqZGDYWc (30 seconds)
Paul made it clear that anything you do, (even MANY "good" things) are worthless if you do them without love. (1 cor 13)
Christ, Paul, and the other writers in the New Testament had a MUCH different view of what a Christian should be than these people do. Christ is not a means of killing people, if you think that, you are not a Christian, but I pray one day you will be. - Delphium226, on 05/17/2009, -3/+10Hush now, don't worry your little head over these confusing and complex things.
- yoshman, on 05/18/2009, -0/+7While riding Velociraptors, duh. Everyone knows that!
- mgraham80, on 05/17/2009, -1/+7Unfortunately, Bass, it's a lot, lot easier to go in than it is to go out. That's why most Democrats opposed the war in the first place.
- smdyson, on 05/18/2009, -0/+5Nothing will happen to him. When you are at that level of "importance", you are pretty much untouchable. People in his position, and presidents, should honestly be held to more legal scrutiny than the average citizen. To abuse your immense power in that position is absolute treason and he should be executed.
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