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- vatosplace, on 10/11/2007, -48/+238Rudy is a true American scum bag.
- mastercheif, on 10/11/2007, -22/+126@gamebittk
You obviously weren't paying attention to what Rudy did after 9/11. After 9/11, Rudy kicked all of the firefighters out of ground zero, and they refused to leave, because they were digging out their dead brothers. Then, Rudy forced the police department to forcibly remove all of the firefighters from ground zero. This caused fist-fights between cops and firemen for days. None of the media outlets showed it, because you just don't show on national TV after one of the most tragic events in world history. Now, every firefighter I know hates Rudy with a burning passion of a thousand suns. Not to mention, during his stay as mayor, he had pay cuts on all emergency services in each budget he made.
***** RUDY. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -27/+70@gamebittk
you do realize that the terrorists killed -themselves- right?
Rudy just had to do clean-up.
i'd reject him being president mostly because of his complete and utter lack of foreign policy knowledge. his stance on the social issues is ok for a republican, but he probably thinks that business doesnt need regulation, due to that republican-ness, so he definitely wont be receiving my vote. - sulthernao, on 10/11/2007, -1/+39@titanmiller
The 22nd amendment, regarding term limit, was ratified in 1951.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution - funnylookinhat, on 10/11/2007, -5/+39Ditto.
I don't subscribe to either political party either more because I'm tired of the tricks and jabs at each other. I'm tired of having to pick between two horrible candidates. - AlphaEta, on 10/11/2007, -38/+71"If he becomes president you wont be able to walk threw sub ways much longer."
Why not?
Look... I don't like Rudy because he's a Bush stooge, but do you really think the fact that he wanted to extend his term 3 months makes him a "dictator"?
I think that's taking the vilification a little to far. - marcomc2, on 10/11/2007, -7/+33the most horrific moment of the last fifty years? really?
i dont think so. - dchoi22, on 10/11/2007, -5/+31hahaha i like how the dude with a confederate flag avatar is hating on Guiliani
- raithetarkon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25I hardly think that 9/11 was the most horrific moment in the last 50 years.. sure it was a tragedy.. but that's still an exaggeration. Horrible events with casualties much greater than 9/11 have happened in less developed countries..
- ragnar0kk, on 10/11/2007, -18/+41Giuliani is a Fascist plain and simple, he believes taking away freedoms from Americans is a great idea all in the name of "protecting" us (Much like George Bush) If you want more of the same vote Giuliani, if you want to protect habeus corpus and the bill of rights then look for another candidate.
- Arkavus, on 10/11/2007, -9/+30@Turambar
It's probably not him not knowing about the foreign policy, it's probably him not wanting the people to know. That's why he looks like such a douche when he gets called out on his thoughts about our foreign policy. - Shao00, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18I'm a New Yorker who's never been a Rudy fan but this is a little bit crazy....When i heard about him possibly extending his term, it seemed perfectly reasonable at the time. He wasn't the only one asking for an extension, many people were demanding it. The city was in shambles, it wasn't the best time to be holding elections. This seems like a bit of a reach. That said, god help us if he's elected.......
- HijackedFlavor, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23Wait, he used the 12/26/2004 tsunamis to try to maintain power for himself?
- CkMaverick, on 10/11/2007, -7/+23@Hawk2007
Do you think coming in here and belittling us is going to prove anything? We are here discussing issues we find interesting and voicing our opinions. If you don't like it go on some Giuliani '08 site and be as comfortable as you want. You are free to voice your opinion though it would probably be better recognized and accepted like the first one if you leave out the attacks on the users of this discussion board. - JustADude, on 10/11/2007, -6/+22@ Kyderdog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide
No, only 500,000 - 1,000,000 killed in Rwanda. You're right, that clearly affected fewer people than 9/11, which killed about 3,000.
Nice math, idiot. - FuZi0nDET, on 10/11/2007, -8/+24American's have always set aside their differences to help each other in times of need Gulliani. Ever had an ass hole boss that took credit for your hard work and your accomplishments as if they had done it for you and in reality done jack *****? Thats Rudy; historically American's have united in the face of great tragedy and set aside their differences for the greater good of society. The one guy responsible for uniting Americans is Osama Bin-Douche not Rudy.
And please tell me you're ***** about honest Abe. - Alex76, on 10/11/2007, -15/+29Erm. No that is not what happened, Rudy had a city council and other democratic structures around him, he was not the King of NYC, though many try to paint him that way...
- SUPERnova007, on 10/11/2007, -21/+33mean and partisan, no not Rudy, this article. It makes me ashamed to be a Democrat. I never thought we stoup this low.
- knulpm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14I have under good authority that Rudy was in fact behind the Trade Federation blockade of New York and commissioned the creation of a Clone Army in secret.
- robotcommander, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17"I pray that Rudy doesn't get elected. That would be almost (but not quite) as bad as Hilary getting elected. Come to think of it, if either Hilary or Rudy get elected, I'm moving to Canada..."
^ Statements like this always bothered me on 2 levels.
1. The cowardice and immaturity of these kinds of statements pretty much amounts to the juvenile mindset that if things don't go one's way, one gives up. If you believe in your principles and your values of what you expect from your country and your government, then do something about it, instead of running (even figuratively) away.
2. The implicit arrogance one has in stating that "moving to Canada" is automatically an option for any American is galling. Are you aware that Canada has one of the most stringent immigration policies in the Western world with respect to income, education, and skilled labor? Did it ever occur to you that Canada doesn't want your lazy, unprincipled, cowardly ass in their country either. - Rikkochet, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Bring me something from Carl's Jr when you come up, we don't have 'em here...
- 2legit2kwit, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Nobody even remembers his racist policies because those are why i wouldn't vote for him.
- Codee, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Look, there are still people today that still believe Saddam planned 9/11.
All related evidence, FBI and the 9/11 Commission, all say that is completely false.
So some of you think Giuliani is a "Hero". Another false image. Trust me we were glad to see him go.
He is getting away with far too much credit. He loves to use 9/11 as his calling card and his launchpad.
Eventually going into a private security business. How quaint. Now trying to run for president.
Please, no thanks. Like where was all that security know how on 9/10?
Rudy was the worst and New Yorkers were counting his days like we're counting Bush's.
Don't let the "hype" fool ya'.
Now Michael Bloomberg, runs rings around Rudy. More like crop circles actually. Rudy's not even in the same hemisphere of leadership.
Bloomberg's salary is $1 a year.
His education programs have changed NYC's test scores like you wouldn't believe.
He's just not a divider. He speaks truth to power. including his own party's President.
Unitedly Democrats and Republicans, polled him into service because of his positive attitude,
firm fiscal policies and his sublime integrity that made voters feel that he'd do his best for all New Yorkers and meant it.
Bloomberg's second term, was a landslide re-election. Hmmm, I wonder why?
Bloomberg was the one that made NYC feel whole again after 9/11. He's the Hero.
***** Rudy.
Rudy is and will always be a self- serving, self-centered, opportunist weasel and an insincere, jerk-off. Period.
That's from a New Yorker. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13Like I said in the Leibermann digg, you can't tell the difference anymore between modern progressives and Stormfront.
- gamebittk, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12@ CkMaverick
You can barely voice your opinion on Digg. Digging someone down is practically saying "shut up -- no one else should read this comment", and that just paves the way for others to think your opinion doesn't matter either, and digg you down as well. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Technically, we live in more of a Corporatist state than a purely Fascist state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#In_popular_usage - realyst, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12I'm assuming a noun from the language of the Space Woastians?
- fkilleen, on 10/11/2007, -8/+14Why is this on the digg front page? I come here for substance, not the BS I can find in my SF Chronicle.
Buried for being a lame opinion with out much backing. I hope the intelligent people of this country realize how nice it is to be able to call Giuliani a dictator; because I know, to the citizens of NYC, Rudy's oppressive rule was the first thing on their minds. - NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11Even before I read the article... I've known this guy was an ***** power hungry criminal... if he ever became president we'd become a dictatorship for sure... He's the most strict needle dicked, fear mongering, power hungry, zero tolerance, morally correct, backwards policies, personal freedom hating, constitution breaking, war mongering, ***** bastard *****... XD
He's on my list of "If these people become president in 08 I'm leaving the country" list... - doggo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"You are obviously one of the many digg users that use the term fascist way too loosely. If the states was a true fascist society, you would know it."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0524-10.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-2801(199803)70%3A1%3C1%3ATFSOF%3E2.0.CO%3B2-3 - lynch03, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13Rudy Guiliani, after 9/11 said "Thank god George Bush is our president" ya ***** him.
- Muncher, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13No, I hated him then.
- Gwyddyon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5gamebittk:
"Rudy got the City of New York through the biggest crisis in American history."
This is why people need to pay more attention to history. If you honestly believe that, you lack any sort of sense of proportion. 3,000 dead in New York is hardly a bigger crisis than the Civil War or the War of 1812. I don't think a plane hitting a skyscraper really even registers on the same scale as WASHINGTON D.C. BEING INVADED by a foreign army (War of 1812), or for that matter the Trail of Tears (forced relocation by our own government resulting in 4,000-15,000 deaths, including children), or even the Great Depression. Heck, even Katrina managed to largely take out an entire city (plus the damage in the surrounding region), even if the death toll wasn't as high.
New York needs to get over itself. - vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8I'd like to point this out since the topic of non-intervention and President Wilson.
Had the US followed a non-interventionist policy and not declared war on Germany in WWI, then chances are Germany would have won and Hitler would have never came to power resulting in the more costly WWII and Jewish Genocide. The irony was that WWI Imperial Germany was no less democratic or less brutal as Imperial England at the time.
So if Wilson had not gotten us into WWI, then we would have not had further international troubles down the road.
This why I agree with Ron Paul. The more we intervene overseas the more we mess things up and cause more problems that blowback in the future. - s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@Rikko:
AFAIK Carls Junior is a west-coast thing. I know in the Southeast it's called hardees; same food, different name. - rocket777, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8When Rudy was a prosecutor, he charged the junk bond guy with 270 charges or somewhere near that many.
How could he drop all but one if he really thought the guy (can't recall his name) was guilty of anything.
The man is another Joe McCarthy the "commy" man. If he wasn't in politics, he'd simply be a criminal in one form or another. Then again, poltics and crime are synonyms anyway. - Nick22, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11Agreed, 9/11 was hardly the most horrific event in the past 50 years. Id argue that that big tsunami in asia was much more horrific than 9/11. Both are pretty bad though. on one hand you have 2 massive buildings crashing right in front of you, and on the other hand you have 100+ feet of ocean speeding towards you...
- Nocturnalis, on 10/11/2007, -9/+14I'm no Guliani supporter but I think this article is BS. COMPLETE BULL ***** in fact.
It's easy for everyone to forget the mayhem, pandemonium and confusion during that time. Guliani was the acting Mayor for an extended period b/c the city was in a devastated state. He was also working closely with the newly elected Mayor Bloomberg to get the city's core structure back in order. 911, 311 and 411 all had to be brought back up and online. The OEM had to be reestablished. There needed to be a single communication bridge between NYPD, FDNY and EMT. There was NO organization and everyone was running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. No one at the time objected him staying in for an additional 3 months b/c no was thinking about such a minute issue. The issue at had was who attacked the US and why. - otoutosama, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnel ARE tame. They are quasi-leftwing. They are the margarine of left wing. Sadly, the conservatives have managed to shift the center to the point that people who should be called "moderate conservatives" are instead called "liberals" people who should be called "moderate liberals" are called extremists and people who truly represent liberalism are out of the national eye.
- bardamuclichy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8In the South(not counting Atlanta, where it's disliked by the black population), the Confederate flag is considered a symbol of the South. Growing up there, I had black friends whose parents had Confederate flag bumper stickers on their cars and flags in their rooms. The whole 'Confederate flag is a symbol of racism!' deal is only found on the west coast and in new england. Every now and then on the west coast, I run into some inbred hick who thinks its some white power symbol.
- figurearts, on 10/11/2007, -1/+56. As it turned out, Rudy did not stay in office for 3 more months, the local electoral process went forward, and subsequently Mike Bloomberg was sworn in as mayor.
7. For a real power-mad dictator, check out Boss Hogg down there in Hazzard County. I understand he still votes Democrat all the way. - SavageBlackCat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I guess the author never heard of operational continuity.
- rwinograd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5errr..... Mayor Bloomberg of New York?
- SenorPez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Lastly, HE IS STILL THE MAYOR, SO THEY MUST LIKE HIM ENOUGH NOT TO CARE!
Jeez, make a big freakin' deal out of nothing, I'm beginning to doubt the power of digg's collective intelligence."
This is the greatest post ever. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Six million Jews were executed in the last 50 years?
- figurearts, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8At this major website of the Communist half of the Democrat Party, watch how the Left also lies by omitting certain details:
1. Runoffs for the office of Mayor, borough presidencies for Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, city council seats and much else were scheduled for September 11, 2001. Something happened on September 11, 2001 that canceled this process, can't remember what it was...
2. On September 26, 2001, when America's future Evil Dictator proposed staying in office 3 more months (just weeks past when a new mayor would be sworn in), a massive column of smoke for some reason was still rising in lower Manhattan, for some reason, and the public did not know that an estimated 10,000 New Yorkers had suddenly vanished, for reasons I still cannot remember. There were posters of the missing xeroxed and stuck onto every wall, lamppost and billboard all over the place. There were still no plans to reschedule the runoffs originally scheduled for September 11, 2001, and nobody knew when a new mayor could even be nominated much less elected.
3. Plenty of New Yorkers, including Democrats, believed the canceled runoffs of September 11, 2001 would warrant Rudy Giuliani remaining in office for life-- I mean, maybe 3 more months.
4. Somebody is trying to gain power by exploiting the most tragic event in America ever, but I'll figure out who it is after I remember why the election runoffs were canceled on September 11, 2001.
5. Non-New Yorkers, most Digg users (even those with an IQ greater than a turnip), and many others do not know about the canceled runoffs of September 11, 2001, nor did they experience the bizarre stench of thousands of burning bodies wafting through the air at this time. - mdc10s, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Ron Paul in 2008!
- figurearts, on 10/11/2007, -1/+59. crooksandliars.com typically has a link on at least every other page of Digg, if not on every page. Question: who are they paying for this treatment (or whose dick are they sucking), when links to most other media outlets in the entire western world are far more scarce? I'll figure this out after I finally remember why runoff elections scheduled for September 11, 2001 were canceled.
- grahambrunk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5There is absolutly no proof that Rudy was the one resonsible for the lowering of Crime in New York City in the 1990s. That is purely an urban myth. Crime went down in the entire country those years. Also many of the things Mayor Dinkins (mayor of NYC before Guiliani), were not in effect until after Guiliani had taken office. Guiliani merely took credit once great things started to happen.
- OwdenBowden, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Lived my entire life in NYC and I think Rudy is a Power Hungry Sucmbag that does not give a crap about you. He just wants to control you via a police state. As for the Presidential elections - there is no one that is good. Like always we will be voting for the person who will do the least harm to us and our liberties.
What I think we need is a new REVOLUTION. So that we can take back the control. -
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