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- GlobalistShill, on 03/03/2008, -12/+191Remember "Freedom Fries"? LOL! God help us all...
Ancient tactics of deception are being used on the dumbed-down public. Fortunately, the Internet is the veritable "cat out of the bag" which will be a TOUGH nut for the globalists to crack. Bilderberg and the Bohemian Grove are prime examples of how these people like to operate behind the scenes and "above" in their system of control.
The deception of 9/11 is hidden in plain sight. It was so poorly executed a child cut put the pieces together. Nevertheless, many have defaulted to simply trust their government. Trust is a good thing but it should be coupled with discernment. The neo-cons and their ilk view trust as weakness but fail to see that trust is a facet of a higher stage of evolution which acknowledges the fact that humanity is one. Division, fear mongering, and war profiteering are a part of the OLD, and it is time for the new. - Roger, on 03/03/2008, -4/+75That whole "Freedom Fries" thing was hilarious.
You guys are pretty entertaining when you're not bombing or invading some other country. - inactive, on 03/03/2008, -11/+82So we get in trouble if we say this administration sucks? And we will get a phone call? wow... how immature. Would we go to the principals office too?
- stew00mz, on 03/03/2008, -4/+66I wonder if this will open up any eyes, or if it will just circulate around people who have already seen the truth?
- whatthefu, on 03/03/2008, -2/+57I wouldn't consider myself very liberal or conservative, but the one thing that I am really frustrated by is this obsession with patriotism. Implying that your political opponent or anyone "doesn't love America enough" is the dumbest ***** ever. And some even have the nerve to imply that wanting a change to this country is un-American and all the backwards and outdated systems HAVE to stay.
- allowners, on 03/03/2008, -6/+52No, it would be off to Gitmo or one of the local camps under construction.
- insurgente, on 03/03/2008, -2/+39"What, then, is patriotism? “Patriotism, sir, is the last resort of scoundrels,” said Dr. Johnson. Leo Tolstoy, the greatest anti-patriot of our times, defines patriotism as the principle that will justify the training of wholesale murderers; a trade that requires better equipment for the exercise of man-killing than the making of such necessities of life as shoes, clothing, and houses; a trade that guarantees better returns and greater glory than that of the average workingman."
-- "Patriotism, a Menace to Liberty", Emma Goldman, 1911 - Musicdgamer, on 03/03/2008, -4/+34I was a Sophomore in High School when the Patriot Act was introduced. For my government class we had to write a paper about it and whether or not we supported it. I was the only person that wrote a paper opposing and criticizing president Bush. The day after I turn it I got called to the principals office, where he asked me why I wrote the paper and how I was doing the wrong thing by opposing the president specially after all "he" has been through.
That this type of ideas could be consider anti-American. The teacher had given me a "D", (I never gotten a D in any paper before) and wrote on the paper that it was "unacceptable". He asked me to rewrite it and to apologize for writing it and that he wouldn't tell my parents. I did what he said. In hindsight I shouldn't have taken it back but I had never been called to the principals office before so I was very nervous and I wanted to get out of there. That was the mentality back then. - JDenigma, on 03/03/2008, -5/+31More like the latter. Chances are better that this will make the front page because this is critical of the current administration. If it was critical of a left wing administration then it probably wouldn't make the front page given the demographics on digg and the tactics used by people on here. The people though who really do need to see things like this, aren't even on digg or even using the Internet actively for news beyond anything like msn.com, their circulating e-mail rumors, foxnews.com , cnn.com , comcast.com , slate.com to name a few mainstream sites online that are for the most part, part of the msm.
So we're pretty much preaching to the choir here. We're like the nerds and outcasts here on this Internet equivalent of h.s. in which all the dumb jocks and airheads are too ditzy and oblivious in their state of blissful ignorance as they enjoy their bread and circuses watching their msm nightly news , sports programming , mtv vh1 and Etv, and pop stars and maybe reading some hard copy mainstream newspapers and some trashy best selling novels recommended to them by celebrities.
Let's face it, we're in the minority. We're surrounded by a bunch of idiots enjoying their 'old world' entertainment. We're up a ***** creek. When you look at humanity and the corruptible nature of human beings when granted power, it's amazing that there are still many people who worship at the altar of "democracy" as a be all end all.
God I wish there was another planet that we could all escape towards. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" Richard Branson save us! lol - MonarchWastxD, on 03/03/2008, -8/+34I'm so happy I can say this: ***** the USA and George Bush. Granted, there are some nice people there, and good things come out; but the point of the matter is that I can say what I just said without any fear at all.
I hit that submit button. No hesitation. - rpi22, on 03/03/2008, -6/+31Oh look! It's the patriotism police!!
- shadowblade989, on 03/03/2008, -3/+27"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-Teddy Roosevelt - chrisk9, on 03/03/2008, -4/+28View the "Buying the War" special at: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html
- Dumbledorito, on 03/03/2008, -0/+23That more reflected what was often called, for lack of a better term, "class." In those cases, I'd like to think that those who knew thought that as long as a president had all his marbles, what difference would it make if he was wheelchair bound or had a boink on the side? Now, if the prez did something illegal or was ***** crazy? That better be on page 1.
A recent example is Drudge's outing of Prince Harry in Afghanistan. It served no public purpose other than to generate hits on Drudge's website; no public good came of it. - inactive, on 03/03/2008, -5/+26This is news to you? All of us abroad were laughing at your media and you for this.
- rpi22, on 03/03/2008, -1/+20Hey man, you're supporting the terrorist by spreading propaganda like that! America, love it or leave it! They hate our freedoms so let's destroy our freedoms first!
- johnpdiddyo, on 03/03/2008, -9/+28Ron Paul "We gotta stop saving face...the Iraq war was a mistake" America saving face since 9/11/2001
- blackcloud333, on 03/03/2008, -5/+22"Fashionable" to criticize this president? The criticism has just naturally and steadily occurred over the past seven years as result of his epically bad decisions.
- mateo60, on 03/03/2008, -4/+21Aw. Thanks. You're sweet.
- gl77, on 03/31/2008, -1/+16buried for oblivion because i assume you are a Carlos Mencia fan.
- facelesscoward, on 03/03/2008, -6/+20WHY IS BILL MOYERS SCREAMING?
- purpmint008, on 03/03/2008, -1/+15"That was the mentality back then."
Correction: "That is still the mentality."
Not all fascism looks like Adolf Hitler. People need to understand this and that principal should be fired. - Superperson, on 03/03/2008, -5/+18I hate how conservatives equated questioning the president with siding with the terrorists. Absolutely disgusting how they used 9/11 for political gain instead of as the rallying cry it should have been.
- inactive, on 03/03/2008, -4/+17Back in the day, the media went out of their way to protect the president. They did things like hide the fact that a president had mistresses, or never let out that FDR couldn't walk (many Americans didn't even know he was bound to a wheelchair!)
While I think it's lame that they would tell networks not to criticize them, it's up to the networks to ignore or even publicize that kind of thing. - ConAmoreEFuoco, on 03/03/2008, -3/+16A phone call? That must be unpleasant, but these people are journalists. If you're a journalist covering national politics on a major news network and the President doesn't dislike you, you aren't doing your job correctly. Journalists are supposed to ask the tough questions, but instead we see softball pitches in the White House briefing room.
- Xondar, on 03/03/2008, -0/+12Those examples aren't close to the same as criticism of policy. Those things are more related to private life. Who cares if your leader has a mistress? Who cares if he's stuck in a wheelchair? Things like that don't affect governance (despite what those who tried to impeach Clinton say.) I'd even say that this stuff is no one's business except the parties involved.
- scamper22, on 03/03/2008, -1/+13yeah, that's the ultimate control the government has on you. The illusion of freedom.
You can't actually do anything to change things.
But you can write op-ed pieces and write on digg. - phazon88, on 03/03/2008, -0/+11That way we won' t have any freedoms they can hate! Yippy!
- RedShirtNumber2, on 03/03/2008, -0/+11http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2004/01/patriotism ...
The sad thing is people like this will not admit Bush has done anything wrong no matter how much evidence you put before them. I swear I've seen people who could watch Bush confess to a murder in front of them and they would still defend the guy. And they say Obama supporters are creepy? Bush fanatics are certifiably insane. - smotpoker, on 03/03/2008, -2/+12Not trust, culture of conformity
- Xondar, on 03/03/2008, -6/+16"SINCE THEN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED, AND MANY ARE DYING TO THIS DAY." Wrong! More than a million people have died! Or is this an example of American media only counting Americans as casualties?
- digbird, on 03/03/2008, -5/+15Criticizing the President isn't unpatriotic. Sometimes, it can be patriotic. Most of the time it isn't either. There's a world of difference between saying the President has been an awful one and saying, "The President is a Nazi." In the former case, you are expressing an opinion, and in the latter, you are expressing an opinion that is not only patently absurd and offensive, it also speaks volumes about how you view your country.
In either case, people have a right to say what they want. That's freedom of speech. But freedom of speech doesn't mean the right to say anything you want and not be criticized by people who take offense at what you said. - phazon88, on 03/03/2008, -2/+11And they tell us this now that approval for the President is basically zilch. They didn't have the balls to tell us the administration was trying to censor them when 9/11 had just happened. No they just went along and deceived us. ***** you CNN and the rest of the MSM, just tools for the Administration.
- inactive, on 03/03/2008, -6/+15It takes a special kind of Idiot to re-elect such incompetence! This administration is the WORST...and makes Nixon look like a *****' communist. Look at the idiocy of these speeches to pre-screened dumbasses that are obviously prepped for our president (because, Lord knows, he couldn't string a coherent thought together in public to save his own ass) and strewn with the psychological buzzwords, "freedom," "democracy," and other abstractions that are molded to serve autocratic/plutocratic ends.
"there's nothing like walking into a room full of enthusiastic supporters to give you that spirit, to kind of put that wind behind your back" - PREZ
Especially when the crowd has been hand picked, police are standing by to throw dissenters out, and protesters have to stay in chain link pens miles away, ironically referred to as First Amendment Zones.
Wilkommen to Amerika fools!.... - scamper22, on 03/03/2008, -5/+14Yeah, and the revolution will remain on the internet.
The only question we should be asking, is if you were in the audience when the college student got tasered for asking too many question in florida...would you have stood up to the police. - inactive, on 03/03/2008, -1/+10A true individual doesn't consider ideas such as patriotism or religion as valid.
Before you bury me, patriotism =! Nationalism. - d03boy, on 03/03/2008, -1/+10That's BS. Go back right now and tell them to ***** off.
- richporter, on 03/03/2008, -0/+9I'm almost as happy as you that we don't have camera nests on our street corners. Yet.
- Dumbledorito, on 03/03/2008, -0/+8No, from "The Belfast Telegraph," actually: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/wo ...
Where'd you hear otherwise? Some conservative blog? And how's that jerky knee, there? - pjr12345, on 03/03/2008, -8/+16Don't sell Ron Paul short! After all, Ron Paul's participation in pre-9/11 planning meetings is considered one of the most guarded secrets in this current administration. Few people know that there were actually two additional planes hijacked that horrible day. While THEY are unsure of the exact targets planned for those craft, one thing's for sure - they never had the opportunity to reach them. All thanks to Ron Paul.
What happened was this. THEY approached Ron Paul with the information about the pending attacks. Ron Paul scanned through it, and realized that two of the planes' flight paths would actually cross. Ron Paul booked himself a ticket on the plane scheduled for the highest altitude. After checking in, he was able to profile the intended hijackers.
The training Ron Paul received while volunteering in the little known, elite Marine Walrus unit came in handy that day. No sooner had the hijackers rose from their seats to commence their devilish operation, then Ron Paul sprung into action. Single-handedly incapacitating all four terrorists in a matter of 42 seconds, Ron Paul engaged the most dangerous part of his plan.
Ron Paul popped the utility panel in the toilet, and then squirmed his way into the cargo area. From there, he was able to gain access to the wheel wells of the aircraft. The pilots then slowed the plane slightly, opened the wheel hubs, and dropped their altitude. Using one of two chronometric flight synchronizers known to exist, Ron Paul was able to gauge the location, direction and velocity of the second aircraft. Disregarding his great personal risk, Ron Paul leapt from the plane, embarking on a free fall toward the second aircraft.
Maneuvering his arms and legs to manage the speed and direction of his descent, Ron Paul successfully landed on the left wing of the second aircraft. Even at the great speed of the plane, Ron Paul began manipulating the flaps of the wing. Ron Paul's bravery inspired the on-looking passengers to take action. The passengers gained control over the hijackers and signaled the all clear to Ron Paul.
Ron Paul then released his iron grip on the plane, and opened his hidden parachute, gliding to the earth safely.
Ron Paul - Unsung Hero of the Day - For President! - TheSwashbuckler, on 03/03/2008, -0/+8Why should we trust you?
- anarchytv, on 03/03/2008, -1/+8You know, a lot of people talk like everybody bought into the snow job of 9/11, but that was far from true. I remember my mom telling me to turn on the tv, and I watched the planes fly into the buildings, and my first thought... I mean my absolute first thought was 'CIA'. The idea that a bunch of losers with butter knives could orchestra the hijacking of X number of planes simultaneously, and crash themselves into buildings killing themselves was quite frankly, preposterous. My dad was an air traffic controller... I had been in an air traffic control tower and flown through many airports and been on many planes in my life, and knew what it was like. This was far too Bladerunnerish.
The fact that today nobody believes that 9/11 was pulled off by terrorists, is a credit to all of us who didn't buy that ***** coming down the spin tube. We smelled something foul from the get go. It didn't take us far to look to find thermate angle cut girders in the trade towers, hot molten steel still cooking beneath the ground, and plenty of questionable goings ons in the weeks proceeding the so called attack. Crews coming in to wire the place, at night, insurance policies taken out, transactions in the stock market, the ramping up of Bushy's war, etc.
A lot of sheeple now will call for support of the '9/11 truthers', but again, they are following a populous belief. These same people were singing the other way in the beginning. Its not about any ridiculous 9/11 truth movement, its just plain common sense. To think some religous zelaot pissed off sand people in the desert were able to stir themselves up into a suicidal frenzy and organize a syncronized group effort to fly half way around the world to attack targets they hadn't even seen... hum, yeah. Have you ever been in a commercial airline cockpit.. its devilishly complicated. I mean, once its flying, if you take it easy its almost as easy to drive as a car, but coming in low and smashing into the Pentagon is a different matter.
I don't think anybody will ever know exactly the machinations that went on behind the scenes back then. No matter what they were, they had nothing to do with Iraq, apparently. And you've got to remember, if it was some kind of cell of extremists and there is such a thing as Al Queda, they're enemy is not America, its not American's per say, you or me. If they're pissed off at anybody, its the American military that has attacked thier homeland, the CIA who has destablized their region, the oil corporations that have moved in and pumped the only wealth out of their land, or in the case of religous zealots, Hollywood which creates in their view movies filled with decadent views that undermine their nutty fundamentalist beliefs.
Iraq and Al Queda are not *your* enemies. I dare say you can live in your hometown and go to work and school everyday, and in your entire life of 70+ years, you will never ever meet a single person from Iraq or Afganistan. So how are they your enemies? You don't even know them, they don't even know you, and they probably, not knowing you, don't hate you. Your enemies are probably that bully that pushed you around in 3rd grade, that girl that broke your heart when you were 21 and stole some of your belongings, your boss who dicks you around or someone that's got it in for you at work, the police man that pulls you over and arrests you, the taxman that sticks it to you in every paycheck, the government extortionists that demand a hefty tax on your property and possessions or they will steal it away from you, or the food industry and soft drink companies that poison you with caffiene, HFCS, MSG, nicotine, and alcohol. If I'm correct, all of those people I just listed that are your potential real life enemies, aren't from Iraq or Afganistan, but (assuming you are a typical American like me) are all 'Americans'. Yeah, that's right! Surprise. All your enemies are Americans, right inside your own country.
The idea that you have common 'national enemies' in this day and age, is preposterous. You didn't piss these people off, you didn't bomb their homeland, they don't even know you. - bitcloud, on 03/03/2008, -2/+9so what made ANY of the other people who were:
Detained or
tortured or
strip searched or
wiretapped or
data mined or
subject to warrantless house search
more "important" than the average digg user?
Don't kid yourself. people HAVE been suppressed for speaking out and it will continue to happen while people like yourself lube up the gears of fascism with the suggestion that broad scale data mining isn't already in play... - osbjmg, on 03/03/2008, -1/+8Real patriots fight their government, historically speaking.
- DrunkChimp, on 03/03/2008, -2/+9GWBush is a ***** drunk moron and a lying sack of *****! And so are his supporters.
- smotpoker, on 03/03/2008, -3/+10I believe they weren't taken seriously because they were all "long haired tree-hugging commie hippies" so everything they said was ignored, no matter how valid it is or what evidence supported it. After so many years of instant dismissal and outright persecution they came to two conclusions: Either most of america doesn't know of the problem(s} or they don't care.
You should be happy that most give the benefit of the doubt rather than the more likely latter possibility. After a while, we don't care if you are insulted or not, you've earned it because of your years of ridicule and attacks. If you feel insulted, it is probably because you were one of the 'dumbed-down' public who completely ignored all of the warning signs because it seemed unpopular or got brainwashed into undying devotion. If you aren't one of those dumbed-down public, there is no reason to be insulted by it.
Anyone with any sense of moral dignity would do research and careful objective thinking before advocating/supporting any of government actions that compromise the founding values of this country or the lives of innocent people. If you are one of the 'dumbed down' public, most likely you supported the war blindly or just didn't care. Either way, insulting you is the least of our concerns. Grow up - birdly, on 03/03/2008, -3/+9FTA: PRESIDENT BUSH: This is a scripted...(laughter)
REPORTER: Thank you Mr. President--
APRIL: How is your faith guiding you?
Where the ***** have you gone, Walter Cronkite? Are there any more journalists out there, or are they all just wanna-be TV stars? - WasabiBomb, on 03/03/2008, -12/+18I don't think that 9/11 was an inside job, and it's not because I "trust the government". No, the reason is that I simply don't think that the US government is competent enough to have pulled it off. Hell, they couldn't even maintain the global goodwill that 9/11 engendered to us- there's no way that some shadowy "they" could have pulled off the attack and then managed to keep it secret for so long.
They just aren't that competent. - JDenigma, on 03/03/2008, -1/+7Hey rpi, always good to see you on here. It has baffled me with how unaware people are to such obvious contradictions such as this. Remember the mindset people had after 9/11 when everyone was repeating those bromides that the terrorists hate us for our freedoms and in the same breath they were also rightly so saying that if we give up our freedoms then the terrorists win? Whatever happened to that? Hello in there people. anybody home? Even though people repeated those things they proceeded to contradict what they were saying by willingly agreeing to the government sacrificing liberty in the name of safety and would defend themselves by trying to rationalize it under the banner of necessary temporary power for government in emergencies as 9/11 changed everything.
Well if the terrorists hate us for our freedoms as you people claim, then why in the hell are you giving up your freedom?! The terrorists win then, right? Right? How on Earth do people maintain such conflicting, oxymoronic beliefs and yet not see it? It makes no sense to me. Perhaps we have a case of cognitive dissonance there? You would think that would be easily seen by people, but it's not. I guess that tells you how asleep people are.
Then again maybe these people don't think we're giving up liberty as they're the type who think we're free so long as they're comfortable in their homes and are free to leave their homes and go to work and free to complain and leave the country. To them, that is sufficient for what it means to have liberty regardless of everything else. I also hate it when people try to tell you that we're a free country just because we're better off than some dictatorships such as N. Korea. Talk about defining standards down with that lax viewpoint of liberty. To say that we're free just because we're better off than another country is illogical thinking that would be the same as saying .... 'Oh my state must be a desert because we don't get as much rain as Seattle does'. It's the same thought process there. Just because we may still be better off, at least in some areas, than the rest of the world, really isn't saying much anyway because the rest of the world just plain sucks and it also ignores the direction we're headed. I wouldn't even say we're much better off than many other countries now anyway.
I just don't understand anymore what is wrong with the average Joe Blow next door. - birdly, on 03/03/2008, -2/+8You really should alert the school board or someone about that teacher and principal, otherwise they'll continue spreading their fascism to kids year after year.
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