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- CivicTV, on 08/14/2009, -1/+28You know change is coming when your agreeing with Pat Buchanan.
- katharinec, on 03/06/2009, -0/+26Bear with me on this, but go Pat Buchanan! File this under things that made my day!
- CopsSayLegalize, on 03/06/2009, -0/+21Would you believe that police, prosecutors and judges are also saying we need to legalize drugs to stop the cartels? You can check them out and join as a citizen supporter at http://www.CopsSayLegalizeDrugs.com
- LunusMaximus, on 03/06/2009, -1/+19Agreeing wit Pat Buchanan is not something I ever thought I'd be doing. Excuse me, I need to go put my concept of reality back together now.
- inactive, on 03/06/2009, -0/+10Well you don't see cartels selling whiskey now do you?
- harris2004, on 03/06/2009, -1/+11Keep it up Digg and those who believe in legalizing drugs! Go Buchanan!
- inactive, on 03/08/2009, -0/+7Wha-Wha-Wha-WHAT?????????????????????
That headline enough makes my jaw drop. - aFoxy21, on 03/06/2009, -0/+6@CCoburn3: finally legalizing marijuana will be a huge undertaking, but it *can* be done. And we're not talking about meth or crack - just leafy green stuff that grows in the ground and can, should, be harvested by anyone who wants to. I'm not saying it won't be tricky to get the infrastructure right - but that's like saying that solar and wind energy aren't viable solutions to our energy crisis.
Open your mind to the possibilities! Only then can they be realized... - wishninja, on 03/07/2009, -0/+5No, I'm talking about ending all prohibition. Legalizing is not even a term that really has any meaning because it is too vague. What we need is a policy discussion. Just a "free for all" is not what anyone is suggesting.
- graphictruth, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4Yep, that's the problem right there. All those unintended benefits...
- wishninja, on 03/07/2009, -0/+41. No you are lumping people together. The people that want tobacco prohibition is the centrist neo-conservatives and moderate progressives. Legalizers are usually fringe, either libertarian or liberal.
2. Your assumption not anyone Else's but let me have a stab at your little straw man. Legitimate businesses do sell it now. Cocaine, amphetamines, opiates are all legal just over regulated. The only drugs that are illegal are recreational versions of these drug classes and then the non-medicinal hallucinogens. Head shops are begging for the trippy drugs, hospitals and licensed clinics could sell the others to verified drug addicts. Light opiates and light amphetamines could be sold over the counter by a pharmacist.
3. NO the current drug dealers will be put out of business by the legit ones. The farmers that make these drugs will still be in business but the rest will whither and die under legalization. For example the hardcore smack addict will be getting his smack down at the safe injection house because that will be the only place it will be legal. Heroin if legal would only cost about a dime per hit to make. - GovernmentSp00k, on 03/08/2009, -0/+4Problem is, if we legalize, how would the Cocaine Import Agency make any profit? much less stay in business..
- inactive, on 03/07/2009, -0/+4You made my point your friend couldn't sell his moonshine for $1000 a bottle because you can buy it over the counter legally for less. It's the same with drugs they are only priced so high because of the risk of getting caught!
- Frankyfan3, on 03/06/2009, -2/+5Wow. He was so much younger looking in the Watchmen movie.
- wishninja, on 03/07/2009, -0/+3I think you and Pat are getting ahead of yourselves. The drug war took a long time to build it will take a long time to end it also. It is like Obama said during the campaign we can't even have a discussion on decriminalization because we have never defined such a thing. We can not define legalization of these drugs because we do not have a good understanding of the spectrum of legalization that will be needed to end the harm caused by prohibition and effectively manage the drugs epidemic and eroding consequences for our society. We do not know any of this!
What we do know is prohibition does not work and is actually more harmful then the consequences of the drugs alone. We will never be able to arrest our way out of this problem and it is likely the problem will get worse again in the future.
We know so much more today about these drugs, their use, and about addiction. Yet we use the exact same systems to manage drugs that we used in the 1930's. It seems the only reason we haven't updated our drug strategy is out of the political fear someone will make a mistake.
SO, you are jumping to conclusions on what you think legalization means. That is why we shouldn't talk about legalization we should only talk about what we know. And work a dialogue. - Echota, on 03/08/2009, -0/+2haha,how true!
- gmdmartyr, on 03/08/2009, -0/+2You will know them by their fruits!
- wishninja, on 03/07/2009, -1/+3 I personally have had moonshine (bootleg whiskey) and I used to know someone that was running a speakeasy. He stopped about 10 years ago but I know they are out there I would bet even today. The guy I know used to sell a whole glass of the stuff for a dollar. He would sell a gallon for $15. I think he said it was 100 proof.
But I get your point and would like to take the opportunity to point out that we are also lacking in adequate controls of the legal drugs as well. We could improve and also further reduce the harm created by the morality tax style pseudo-prohibition and offer rock bottom alcoholics more help. - counterspin, on 03/13/2009, -0/+1WoW! Someone forget to pass me the memo: "Hell hath frozen over."
- CopsSayLegalize, on 03/06/2009, -0/+1We saw that too, and thought it was a really strange and funny typo.
- wishninja, on 03/10/2009, -0/+1I do not think prohibition is as effective price control as you think it is. I do not think the price of booze was really effected that much. I do not think the price of reefers are very high either. When you get down to it, I think weed and other drugs are well inline with what the market is willing to pay. I will admit though that coke is kind of high priced these days. But that should be the easiest to get rid of being that it only grows in one specific part of the world.
- nbaughman, on 03/06/2009, -1/+1look at the end of the article
"failed state of 110,000 million"
by my calculations, that is 110,000,000,000 people. there are 110 billion Mexicans? - inactive, on 03/06/2009, -3/+2I see reality isn't any more popular on the drug legalization front than it is on the economic front here at Digg.
Folks, I agree that we need to legalize drugs. I think that any government that is powerful enough to "win" the war on drugs is much more of a danger to us than any number of people who use drugs. But I don't think we ought to have or foster unrealistic expectations.
1. Government is trying to stamp out tobacco. Many of you people who are going around cheering the drug legalization push are also cheering the tobacco criminalization push. Be that as it may, how many of you believe that a government that will say, "You can't smoke tobacco" is going to say, "But its OK if you want to use a little heroin"?
2. Do any of you really believe that legitimate business will sell the stuff? Can you even begin to imagine the protests & the lawsuits? There would be pickets in front of every store that tried to sell it. And every time someone ODed or wrapped his car around a tree while under the influence, there would be a huge outcry & probably a lawsuit. Then the states would get into the act just like the did with the tobacco companies. Nobody is going to touch it except the people who are selling it now.
3. And do any of you think that these people are going to go down & get a business license & a tax ID number so they can pay taxes on the drugs they sell?
There are good things to be said about legalization. We can reduce the intrusiveness of government. We can cut government spending. We can cut our prison population by a significant amount. These are all things we can & should point out. But let's not kid ourselves or anyone else about how legalization is going to put the drug trade into the hands of good citizens. - madywithshovel, on 03/08/2009, -3/+1Classic Buchanan. This guy would do the hokey pokey in a speedo on national television every morning if he thought it would insulate America from Mexicans....
- inactive, on 03/06/2009, -10/+3Legalize drugs by all means, but it won't cut the violence & it won't put the cartels out of business.
People who believe it will need to do a reality check. Do they really think Bayer is going to dust off its patent & start making heroin? Do they think they will be able to go down to the local CVS to buy meth? Can you imagine the uproar if these businesses got into the drug business? Can you imagine the lawsuits? Hell, the tobacco companies had to pay billions. Imagine what a company that manufactured crack cocaine would be in for. And do you think the FDA is going to rules these drugs to be "safe & effective"?
The ONLY people who can sell these drugs are the people who sell them now -- people who don't care about protests or lawsuits or government regulation. (And, incidentally, people who don't pay taxes, so get the idea of balancing the budget by drug sales out of your heads.) These people are going to continue the same "business methods" as they use now. They are going to fight over turf. They are going to kill each other & people are going to get caught in the crossfire. That's the way it is & the way its going to be.
